Self Harm (Possibly Triggering)

[InOne]

Anyone had any experiences of it, or know people who have?

[Sarah.]

Pretty personal thing to ask.

[InOne]

Hmmm I guess, well it is Serious Debates and it's up to people what they share I guess. Was just trying to get a topic going!

[Ninastar]

Not self harm but once i got so angry I punched my sisters bunkbed and cut all my knuckle. I felt better after, but my hand didn't.

[MissKittyFantastico]

I'm just going to answer yes and leave it at that.

[GypsyGoth]

I'm just going to answer yes and leave it at that.

Same here.

[Twilight]

Yes and that is all i'm saying

[InOne]

Sorry if it is a triggering topic? Shall I delete it?

[MissKittyFantastico]

Sorry if it is a triggering topic? Shall I delete it?

I don't think you need to personally, it's up to people if they want to say or go into detail or not.

[Stu]

Yeah, I used to whack away at my stomach area with a blunt knife a few years ago and stub fags out on myself because I wanted the rush but without the risk of like ... death.

Stupid thing in hindsight obviously. Though I still stub fags out on my arms and tongue to get free drinks off people in clubs.

[Firewire]

Nope.

[Iceman]

Yeah but I was a kid and stupid! Looking for attention! Looking back it was a pretty stupid thing to do!

[Stephanie]

yeh

[bronaaaa]

I've purposly done stuff to hurt myself, but its not like with a knife or anything so I dunno if that's classed

[Stu]

Nope.
:rolleyes:

[Lauren]

You should put "[Potential Trigger]" or something in the title (well, don't feel obliged ha, just my suggestion :)).

I think everyones self harmed to an extent, I don't mean slashing your wrists or burning your skin off, but things like nipping our skin when angry, biting our lip til it hurts etc are all examples, and these examples help people who go "I don't understand why someone would do it" - understand a bit more.

[InOne]

Good idea Lauren.

[Stu]

That's an interesting point too. I have a very compulsive personality. I used to clench my fingers, not together, but on there own, all the time. You know when you stiffen you fingers up. Really horrible sensation but I kept going back to it out of some bizarre compulsion.

Another less extreme example for perspective would be scratching an itch or picking a scab.

[MissKittyFantastico]

You should put "[Potential Trigger]" or something in the title (well, don't feel obliged ha, just my suggestion :)).

I think everyones self harmed to an extent, I don't mean slashing your wrists or burning your skin off, but things like nipping our skin when angry, biting our lip til it hurts etc are all examples, and these examples help people who go "I don't understand why someone would do it" - understand a bit more.

That's a really good point actually Lauren!

[ILoveTRW]

the real world cancun had a nice little story on self harming

some girl totally slashed her self up with some glass because her roommate spat in her tacos

[Stu]

the real world cancun had a nice little story on self harming

some girl totally slashed her self up with some glass because her roommate spat in her tacos
Fascinating.

[Iceman]

Fascinating.

I know! :joker:

[InOne]

Yeah, I think at one point I almost got addicted to cutting myself. Bearing in mind I was not well at the time. It is only after you snap out of it you realise how bad you were.

[Twilight]

the real world cancun had a nice little story on self harming

some girl totally slashed her self up with some glass because her roommate spat in her tacos

Umm its not real

[Stu]

Yeah, I think at one point I almost got addicted to cutting myself. Bearing in mind I was not well at the time. It is only after you snap out of it you realise how bad you were.
I just did it because if I kept it up I would eventually get incredibly light headed. Body releasing it's own painkillers. Attribute it to an addictive personality, which I have with everything. That's not just bragging about drugs, either, I am referring to completely mundane things too. I can't just sit down and play a game for an hour. It's an all nighter or bust.

[InOne]

I'd say I was more impulsive rather than an addictive personality, I think i'd be a full blown piss head if I did.

[Stacey.]

no, never!
its sick and wrong.
No oneee should do that, no matter WHAT the situation is,, because NOTHINGG in life is that bad :)

[Iceman]

no, never!
its sick and wrong.
No oneee should do that, no matter WHAT the situation is,, because NOTHINGG in life is that bad :)

In your mind set, other people have different mind sets and go through different things....

[Lewis.]

Never had an experience with it. Never even thought about self harm. I'm genereally one of those people who just get on with a bad situation and hope for the best.. but then again, nothing too drasticly bad has ever happened to me in my life

[ILoveTRW]

Umm its not real

oh yeah so the producers told her to cut her self didn't they :|

heres her trigger
aSTykX9rzv4
and by the way she is shouting "herpes on your lip"

[InOne]

no, never!
its sick and wrong.
No oneee should do that, no matter WHAT the situation is,, because NOTHINGG in life is that bad :)

It is not 'sick'. It is just how people cope sometimes. It's bad labels like that, that causes mental illness stigma.

[bronaaaa]

In your mind set, other people have different mind sets and go through different things....

This.

[Scarlett.]

I have never self harmed, but I do understand why some people do it

Once a guy at our college had to read something out in English, then out of nowhere he proper punched himself in the face (full force) then ran out shouting, it was very ****ing scary

[MissKittyFantastico]

no, never!
its sick and wrong.
No oneee should do that, no matter WHAT the situation is,, because NOTHINGG in life is that bad :)

That's really naive saying something like that. Not being nasty to you in any way but people cope with things differently so it's wrong to label them because of it. It's an illness at the end of the day.

[Twilight]

oh yeah so the producers told her to cut her self didn't they :|

heres her trigger
aSTykX9rzv4
and by the way she is shouting "herpes on your lip"

Yeh omg so real..

LOL

[Stu]

no, never!
its sick and wrong.
No oneee should do that, no matter WHAT the situation is,, because NOTHINGG in life is that bad :)
I hate to put it so bluntly but you are young and naive, and as such don't really have a place in this discussion.

Also, on the subject of the Real World being fully authentic ... LOL is all I have to say.

[Jords]

You should put "[Potential Trigger]" or something in the title (well, don't feel obliged ha, just my suggestion :)).

I think everyones self harmed to an extent, I don't mean slashing your wrists or burning your skin off, but things like nipping our skin when angry, biting our lip til it hurts etc are all examples, and these examples help people who go "I don't understand why someone would do it" - understand a bit more.

I was about to say no till I read your post, yepp Ive done this a few times. Key situation is when somebody is narking you off or been gossiping about ya and you bite your lip to stop you saying something to them :tongue:

Good post Lauren :)

[Stacey.]

In your mind set, other people have different mind sets and go through different things....

i know... but if it gets too bad,, then you should help

[Stacey.]

I hate to put it so bluntly but you are young and naive, and as such don't really have a place in this discussion.

Also, on the subject of the Real World being fully authentic ... LOL is all I have to say.

anyone can talk here, thanks! :D

[InOne]

i know... but if it gets too bad,, then you should help

Probably not the debate for you, it can be a big thing to get your head around, and you already seem to have firm views on the matter.

[Stacey.]

That's really naive saying something like that. Not being nasty to you in any way but people cope with things differently so it's wrong to label them because of it. It's an illness at the end of the day.

Yess,, but the point is, that people should get some sort of help,, if they are that bad

[Stacey.]

Probably not the debate for you, it can be a big thing to get your head around, and you already seem to have firm views on the matter.

JEDWARDDD :Dlmao oh yeess :)
my lovees

[InOne]

JEDWARDDD :Dlmao oh yeess :)
my lovees

Jeeeez Courtney.

[Tom4784]

It's nothing really but if I experience something embarrasing or remember something embarrasing I tend to claw at my arms a lot. It's probably not relevant.

I don't really know what to add to this topic which hasn't been said by wiser people really.

[MissKittyFantastico]

JEDWARDDD :Dlmao oh yeess :)
my lovees

Really not the right topic to be taking so lightly and bringing those two into it.

Really don't want to be rude to you but there's plenty of other threads about things you do understand and like for you to post in.

[Iceman]

Yess,, but the point is, that people should get some sort of help,, if they are that bad

Well if we are to go by your logic it's disgusting and sick, maybe people dont want to be seen as disgusting and sick when they ask for help....its people like you who bring a stigma over stuff like this.

[Stacey.]

Jeeeez Courtney.

i truly AM sorry :D

[InOne]

Then don't post bullshit

[Stacey.]

Well if we are to go by your logic it's disgusting and sick, maybe people dont want to be seen as disgusting and sick when they ask for help....its people like you who bring a stigma over stuff like this.

helpp???
Most of the people that do it, want attention,, thats it.

[Stacey.]

Then don't post bullshit

im not... its something thats important to me,, also YOU suggested it!

[Stacey.]

Really not the right topic to be taking so lightly and bringing those two into it.

Really don't want to be rude to you but there's plenty of other threads about things you do understand and like for you to post in.

i know - but InOne bought it up - he reminded meee :nono:

[InOne]

helpp???
Most of the people that do it, want attention,, thats it.

Oh, so you know how everyone thinks and feels do you?

[Stacey.]

Oh, so you know how everyone thinks and feels do you?

no, but i know some people that have done it

[InOne]

no, but i know some people that have done it

Some people? That is not everyone is it. And alot of people hide it too, it is not always for attention. It is a coping mechanism.

[Harry!]

Courtney...Courtney sometimes I have the urge to bash my head against the screen because of your posts. Urgh.

(Joke)

[Stu]

anyone can talk here, thanks! :D
Feel free, just as long as you know your talking complete ****.

[Tom4784]

Oh Courtney quit while you're failing, stop acting like an authority on things you know nothing about.

[MissKittyFantastico]

helpp???
Most of the people that do it, want attention,, thats it.

I hardly think you're the authority on why ALL people self harm though? Everyone does it for different reasons. Some do do it for attention yes, for others it's a release, and so on. And most people are actually ashamed of doing it, they don't wear their scars like some badge of honour! You're being really naive and insensitive tbh.

[Iceman]

helpp???
Most of the people that do it, want attention,, thats it.

its called a cry for help.....you have no idea what your talking about, you dont have the experience some people do and im sure you havent had the same experiences that some people have but yet you write off people for being depressed (not saying everyone who self harms is depressed) or going through a rough patch, i'd seriously consider rethinking your morales and views on the subject before you post something stupid.:spin:

[Lauren]

helpp???
Most of the people that do it, want attention,, thats it.

And the ones that don't do it for attention? You suggest they get help rather than do it, but if they get help they'll have the stigma attached to them that YOU YOURSELF just suggested i.e. that they want attention, or are sick.

[lily.]

no, never!
its sick and wrong.
No oneee should do that, no matter WHAT the situation is,, because NOTHINGG in life is that bad :)

You are a ****ing idiot.

That is all.

[Scarlett.]

helpp???
Most of the people that do it, want attention,, thats it.

no, but i know some people that have done it

My reply, through the medium of Linda
You are a ****ing idiot.

That is all.
.

[Iceman]

You are a ****ing idiot.

That is all.

So beautiful! :hug:

[Wildcat!]

You guys are actually answering to those posts from courtney out here? cmon now!

I personally cant think of anything I have done, other than biting on my skin on my fingers, when I am worried about thinks. But I do know people who have done it, regularly, with knives and suh. Really not a nie thing to see, and how compulsive it an get for some people, and the ant help it.

[MissKittyFantastico]

You are a ****ing idiot.

That is all.

Short and to the point.

I like it. :thumbs:

[lily.]

That's how I roll.

[Stu]

At least the 'Possibly Triggering' tag has lived up to it's name :hugesmile:.

[InOne]

At least the 'Possibly Triggering' tag has lived up to it's name :hugesmile:.

It entices people more really lol

[Stu]

It entices people more really lol
I feel now like willingly reading Courtney's posts pretty much equates to self harm.

[InOne]

There are no words to sum that girl up lol Although lili got the closest

[bronaaaa]

Yess,, but the point is, that people should get some sort of help,, if they are that bad

Sorry, but if was as easy as that, people would go and get help. But it takes time to phsc (sp) yourself up/find the courage, and when you do, something holds you back, I myself find that everytime I comtemplate telling and get close to doing so, I don't because I'm scared people will judge, not take it seriously etc..I have told a couple of people, one of them my mum, and she took the piss, and still does

[Iceman]

Yeah Bronna I told who I though was a friend and they told me to stop messing about....I was like cheers...

[Lauren]

Sorry, but if was as easy as that, people would go and get help. But it takes time to phsc (sp) yourself up/find the courage, and when you do, something holds you back, I myself find that everytime I comtemplate telling and get close to doing so, I don't because I'm scared people will judge, not take it seriously etc..I have told a couple of people, one of them my mum, and she took the piss, and still does

Your mum probably takes the pee as a diversion tactic. As a mum she'll naturally blame herself if you self harm, because she should be the one who protects you enough so you feel you don't have it (if everything was that simple eh). By laughing it off or making jokes of it she's probably hoping that making it light-hearted and trivial may stop you from doing it.

[InOne]

DAo3eSZCRoU


Story of a girl. Video could be triggering.

[bronaaaa]

Yeah Bronna I told who I though was a friend and they told me to stop messing about....I was like cheers...
I told a friend as she was all, 'It's in your head you're making yourself think you;re depressed for attention" or something along those lines lmao

Your mum probably takes the pee as a diversion tactic. As a mum she'll naturally blame herself if you self harm, because she should be the one who protects you enough so you feel you don't have it (if everything was that simple eh). By laughing it off or making jokes of it she's probably hoping that making it light-hearted and trivial may stop you from doing it.
I never thought of it like that..
Off topic - but do you learn things like this with your Physcology degree or are you just realllyyyy smart? :L

[lily.]

A bit of both Brona... she is really smart.. :)

I'm sorry your mum doesn't get it. I don't know how I'd react if it were my daughter either. I have friends who have been through it though, so even though I don't entirely 'get it' since I haven't experienced it first hand.. I do get it to a point.. and I'd hope that if someone close to me felt they could confide in me that I'd be able to be there for them..

[Tom]

To be blunt, and call me heartless or whatever, but I just think its attention seeking

[lily.]

I don't think you are heartless. You are expressing your opinion.

I respectfully disagree with your opinion though.

In some cases it's attention seeking, but in others it's really not, so in my opinion it would be foolish to judge all cases the same.

[InOne]

To be blunt, and call me heartless or whatever, but I just think its attention seeking

For some people I think, it becomes a coping mechanism, and then they get addicted to it. People have all sorts of reasons I guess. Would not say they were all attention seeking, some might try to hide it and feel ashamed.

[Iceman]

To be blunt, and call me heartless or whatever, but I just think its attention seeking

No I dont think anyone would call you that. The fact is I did it for attention and some other reasons but it wasnt a cry for help as such, more of a look what im doing kind of thing....if that makes sense??

[lily.]

It's a complex issue to be honest, and to assume it's all attention seeking is akin to assuming every girl who cries rape is lying...

Just because a lot of them are doing it.. doesn't mean everyone is.. if you get my point.

[InOne]

Yes, very broad, and whilst everyones situation is different, sometimes alot of the factors can be quite similar.

[Wildcat!]

To be blunt, and call me heartless or whatever, but I just think its attention seeking

NOthing wrong with that, because a lot of them are attention seeking, but in the form of a cry for help indirectly.
But also keep in mind that a lot of people who self harm, hide it from everyone. In those cases, sometimes, people never find out about it, until they have stopped doing it for a long time, before they ever talk about it. Or they get caught by accident. So those cases really cant be called attention seeking, since they are done secretly.

[Jack_]

To be blunt, and call me heartless or whatever, but I just think its attention seeking

Didn't want to be the first to say it, but I agree with this.

[MrGaryy]

Pretty personal thing to ask.

just cos you do it doesn't mean you have to reply if you don't want to.

[lily.]

just cos you do it doesn't mean you have to reply if you don't want to.

Oh, for a minute there, I thought I was in the masturbation thread..

[Deirdre]

I never have personally and I can't see how it would cross someone's mind to actually hurt themselves when they're feeling down, would be the last thing on my mind. But that's just my opinion.
I know a girl who was "emo" and she used to cut herself apparently, but personally I think she was a bit of an attention seeker because she didn't try to hide that she did it, she didn't deny it and apparently she showed people the scars.

[InOne]

That is the thing, people have been doing it long before this silly emo thing came along. All sorts of people cut themselves, does not matter how you dress or what music you listen to.

[Tom]

There was some girl at school who used to cut herself, and she used to put her blazer sleeves so you could JUST see the marks and would draw attention to that area, and pretend to hide the scars. hard to explain really but it was obvious she was showing off

Eventually she got excluded because a teacher cottoned on and told her to take her blazer off, she had slash marks all up her arms. She was an absolute nut job

Not judging them all by her though, thats just using one daft example.

[InOne]

I once read in a mag about a site that encourages it. And a girl had started doing it, and this other girl was telling to cut deeper, go all the way ect. Not nice.

[pinkmichk]

yes i have when i was in a very dark place it wasn a cry for help since people didnt know and wasnt for attention it purely a kind of release for myself at the time mine was linked with depression though

[Lauren]

I never thought of it like that..
Off topic - but do you learn things like this with your Physcology degree or are you just realllyyyy smart? :L

I'm not smart haha, I just have a natural knack for understanding feelings and possible thoughts behind things, it's why I decided to do a Psychology degree so I could fine tune it. Unfortunately it's my only talent :hugesmile:

[Lauren]

Also about those saying it's attention seeking - not entirely wrong. I imagine a lot of the time it is attention seeking.

Either in two ways; simply wanting to have attention, be in the spotlight, be bothered about.
The second way is you want attention because you want help, you live within your own mind and by cutting yourself and possibly showing your wounds you're hoping someone will see it and understand your suffering, without any words spoken. It's a cry for understanding.

Then there's the people that don't do it for attention. The ones that do it to punish themselves. If something happens in their life, cutting themselves is a coping mechanism. If you're hurting physically then it numbs the emotional pain. Maybe you cut yourself to remind yourself you're still alive and still able to bleed - because your life feels so dull and lifeless. Maybe you're so self critical you give yourself targets and without achieving them you cut yourself, because you're negative schema in the brain tells you it's YOUR fault and it's the only way you can seek revenge.

Typically these people cut their legs so they're unseen, or they hide their scars. These are the people we never hear about, because either they get help, 'get over it' or simply manage to hide it.

[InOne]

Yeah, the people who do it because they are abused could do it so people fuss over them, to feel loved.

[Vicky.]

Yes, when I was younger. I used to cut myself nearly everyday. It made me feel kind of in control of my life after something bad happened to me.

As strange as that sounds

[30stone]

Hit a wall until my knuckles were all cut open and hand swelled up to like double its size..

Other than that no.

[Vicky.]

Hit a wall until my knuckles were all cut open and hand swelled up to like double its size..

Other than that no.

Do that quite a lot.

If someone pees me off, I tend to go outside and hit a wall instead of hitting them. Dont really like hurting people, but I have a very bad temper, so its one or the other really...usually the wall gets it

[InOne]

I wonder if there is links with that and Anorexia, with the being in control part.

[LemonJam]

When I was younger (13-15) I was pretty emo (but I had a fro instead of usual fringe, HOW EPIC IS THAT?)

I did used to cut myself down my arm. I'd have to wear long sleeve shirts all the time. The thing is I used to get so angry at myself it was almost relieving to be able to inflict that on myself as weird as that sounds.

This went on for 2 years then 2 of my close friends OD'd and were taken to hospital and I came to realisation, "What am I doing? Life is for living not for regrets." So with help from friends I picked myself back up again.

Now I'm a much happier person. Bad things happen, there's no way of escaping it, but there's more releases than moping to Drowning Pool candles in your room with a razorblade. My release is writing music now. Always appreciated it but never used it to calm myself until then.

That's my longest post ever LOL

[InOne]

When I was younger (13-15) I was pretty emo (but I had a fro instead of usual fringe, HOW EPIC IS THAT?)

I did used to cut myself down my arm. I'd have to wear long sleeve shirts all the time. The thing is I used to get so angry at myself it was almost relieving to be able to inflict that on myself as weird as that sounds.

This went on for 2 years then 2 of my close friends OD'd and were taken to hospital and I came to realisation, "What am I doing? Life is for living not for regrets." So with help from friends I picked myself back up again.

Now I'm a much happier person. Bad things happen, there's no way of escaping it, but there's more releases than moping to Drowning Pool candles in your room with a razorblade. My release is writing music now. Always appreciated it but never used it to calm myself until then.

That's my longest post ever LOL

Yeah man, but it's not about being emo if you get me. I have a problem with the fact that people assume it's only 'deep' depressed emo teens who do it. All sorts of people do it, the Emos that people usually think of are middle class kids who are following the trend.

[LemonJam]

Yeah man, but it's not about being emo if you get me. I have a problem with the fact that people assume it's only 'deep' depressed emo teens who do it. All sorts of people do it, the Emos that people usually think of are middle class kids who are following the trend.

I know what you mean, but I was a biiiiiig emo when I was that age :p I know people who've self harmed and aren't emo aswell so I'm not generalising :)

[InOne]

I know what you mean, but I was a biiiiiig emo when I was that age :p I know people who've self harmed and aren't emo aswell so I'm not generalising :)

I know lol But you're like 18 or something aren't you? Was Emo even around then, or the one everyone thinks of?

[LemonJam]

I know lol But you're like 18 or something aren't you? Was Emo even around then, or the one everyone thinks of?

Am 17. I think I was just when it started to become 'cool' if ya get me.