View Full Version : Is Leona going to eventually flop?
Basically if she can only get number 2 after an X Factor performance and selling about half of the copies of her first album, that isn't good? I mean I know it got to number 1 etc but that was always going to happen. And because she does ballad after ballad, and her uptempo songs don't work, will her bubble shortly burst?
Tom4784
27-11-2009, 11:57 PM
She's doing as well as a normal high profile artist I think, her second album was never gonna do as well as her debut album, few artists' do.
It probably didn't help that she released a big slow ballad next to a BEP song. As long as her album sales keep up she'll be fine.
As for the future, I dunno. She'll have to mix things up eventually instead of sticking to the ballads.
Iceman
28-11-2009, 12:00 AM
I'd say yeah, I can't see her changing her style and I think sooner or later people will get bored of the ballads...
InOne
28-11-2009, 12:03 AM
People will get bored of Leona, there is not much to her really.
Shaun
28-11-2009, 12:05 AM
wow, if No.2 is a flop then 2009's been an awful year for all but 20 or so acts.
MrGaryy
28-11-2009, 12:49 AM
well she's releasing quite an uptempo number next so lets see how she does with that. Even if her star fades here, i still think she'll do comfortably in the US if marketed correctly.
MiuMiu
28-11-2009, 02:39 AM
Computor says yes....
*mazedsalv**
28-11-2009, 07:28 AM
#2 isnt a flop!!
But i do see that in 3 years time people will get bored of her.
Lewis.
28-11-2009, 08:13 AM
She came 2nd after an X factor performance.. but in all fairness the poeple who got no 1 were also on the X factor
Stacey.
28-11-2009, 08:16 AM
no, she will be around until the day she dies :D
Great person, a great singer,, simon will NEVER let her go:)
Harry!
28-11-2009, 09:34 AM
no, she will be around until the day she dies :D
I dont think so say that about Lady Gaga being the next Madonna. It wont happern.
Billy
28-11-2009, 11:15 AM
She's got one more album left in her I reckon.
wow, if No.2 is a flop then 2009's been an awful year for all but 20 or so acts.
#2 isnt a flop!!
But i do see that in 3 years time people will get bored of her.
Yeah you're both kind of missing the point. If she can only get to number 2 by performing on the show that made her, when another band performed and outsold her, then without XF how well would it have done?
Alexandra, Cheryl and JLS are ultimately XF products and got to number 1, yet the supposed biggest star to come out of the show is the worst performing.
Patrick
28-11-2009, 05:46 PM
Shes so over rated
Tom4784
28-11-2009, 05:57 PM
It's more to do with the song then her I think, 'Meet me halfway's catchy as hell. If she released a catchier track she'd have got it I think. the reason why she didn't win over BEP while the other XF products did was because they had the catchier song each time.
I do think she'll flop in time but I don't think it'll be the end of her, She'll pull a Mariah Carey I think. She's got 1 or 2 albums left in her with her current style but she'll have to mix it up soon.
Beastie
28-11-2009, 05:59 PM
The song "HAPPY" is a bit boring. Bleeding love was allright, better in time and footprints in the sand were quite good. I think people like her but there are not many strong passionate fans who support her..
Braden
28-11-2009, 06:20 PM
she is going downhill at the moment.
MarkWaldorf
28-11-2009, 06:36 PM
#2 isn't that much of a flop considering it was REALLY close between the two. She sold about 70k that week, so that's good. (remembering that most singles only need about 25k to go top 5 these days)
Most artists who have a really huge first album don't really tend to match their success with their second. Tbf Happy isn't as instant as Bleeding Love. Even with Mariah, her first album was really huge, then when she released her second album so soon after it failed to match the success. Then she did a third album and gave us Hero, Without You and had one of the biggest selling albums of all time with it.
Jords
28-11-2009, 06:36 PM
If she releases I got you as a single shell be fine, that is a really good song, happy and outta my head do not match the strength of her previous singles.
I dont think so say that about Lady Gaga being the next Madonna. It wont happern.
Your right. GaGa is more interesting currently than Madonna has been since about 1992.
Patrick
28-11-2009, 07:13 PM
I Hate her
I met her and shes so stuck up and big headed.
Her songs are **** too.
I liked 'Forgive Me' she should do more songs like that
Harry!
28-11-2009, 07:15 PM
Your right. GaGa is more interesting currently than Madonna has been since about 1992.
Huh? That was the Erotica/Sex Book era. She was exiting in the 90's with the Ray Of Light and still interesting with all her other progects this decade.
Madonna has many albums yet and I think they will be very good. Just wait and see.
001steven
28-11-2009, 09:12 PM
It depends, but imo I think she's boring she has no stage presense, and her ballads are boring I mean Happy was such a bad choice for 1st song from a new album very weak,
that's why I prefer Alexandra she's great performer she can dance and sing and she broke the mould of releasing an upbeat club song for her 1st song which is fantastic.
So back to topic I say leona has about 1 or 2 albums left then peope will get bored of her unless she changes her style of music and mixes it up.
To those saying how Happy is a success ... it has plummeted down the chart, its now at number 10 bearing in mind its only the third week since release. Cheryl's debut song is currently outselling her.
Barbie
30-11-2009, 07:56 AM
She's good but i dont think she will be a "pop" artist forever. She does too many ballads, gets repetitive
EDIT: spelling mistake
Huh? That was the Erotica/Sex Book era. She was exiting in the 90's with the Ray Of Light and still interesting with all her other progects this decade.
Madonna has many albums yet and I think they will be very good. Just wait and see.
I don't even know what era it was, I was just throwing darts at a calender kid. IMO she has not been interesting in nearly twenty years.
WOMBAI
30-11-2009, 08:21 AM
Shes so over rated
Says someone who constantly harped on about how fantastic Marcus Akin was!:joker: At least she has some genuine talent!:elephant:
Says someone who constantly harped on about how fantastic Marcus Akin was!:joker: At least she has some genuine talent!:elephant:
Marcus Akin is a contracted performer, is he?
WOMBAI
30-11-2009, 08:34 AM
Marcus Akin is a contracted performer, is he?
Never will be a performer of any kind - will never get to present anything - as people kept claiming. Complete pillock!
Never will be a performer of any kind - will never get to present anything - as people kept claiming. Complete pillock!
Then why the puzzling and needless comparison between the two? He finds Marcus entertaining. Many people do.
[Patiently awaits follow up comment along the lines of ''If that's your idea of entertainment...'']
WOMBAI
30-11-2009, 08:53 AM
Just as many find Leona entertaining! It is hardly surprising that someone would pass comment on a fan of Marcus Akin accusing others of overrating Leona Lewis.
Just as many find Leona entertaining! It is hardly surprising that someone would pass comment on a fan of Marcus Akin accusing others of overrating Leona Lewis.
Just as many find Leona entertaining? No ****. I hadn't of guessed.
I don't see why he can't think Leona is overrated just because he likes a housemate you don't. I find Leona overrated and I think Marcus is one of the most entertaining housemates ever.
The two are still irrelevant. Shall we go back and forth over the laundry list of Big Brother housemates who have less talent than Leona? Just how long have you got?
WOMBAI
30-11-2009, 09:04 AM
Just as many find Leona entertaining? No ****. I hadn't of guessed.
I don't see why he can't think Leona is overrated just because he likes a housemate you don't. I find Leona overrated and I think Marcus is one of the most entertaining housemates ever.
The two are still irrelevant. Shall we go back and forth over the laundry list of Big Brother housemates who have less talent than Leona? Just how long have you got?
Marcus Akin was hugely overrated!:joker:
In your opinion. That's still pretty useless grounds for a comparison between a ****ing window cleaner and an international pop superstar.
WOMBAI
30-11-2009, 09:33 AM
Just my point really - a window fitter is all he is ever likely to be! Doesn't appeal to the masses!
Just my point really - a window fitter is all he is ever likely to be! Doesn't appeal to the masses!
Don't think he was trying. Thank god for that!
alc09
30-11-2009, 10:40 AM
On the TV advert for her album, the only song used is 'Happy', instead of 2/3/4 like most albums advertised have.
If that is the best she has got, then she is in trouble.
Not going to stay around long with shite like that.
Wildcat!
30-11-2009, 10:52 AM
I Hate her
I met her and shes so stuck up and big headed.
Her songs are **** too.
I liked 'Forgive Me' she should do more songs like that
I can just see the scene now! Patrick, are you that bitch leona! SHut up and sign this autograph. NEver mind, you suck anyways! walks off fuming!!!
But really though, I havent like Leona since after the xfactor. I know she has had commercial success and everything, but with her voice which is for me perfect, regardless of what type of music she sings, they couldve done so much better with her, even with the debut album. I think her management sucks. I think she should hook up with Timbeland, or P Diddy, or someone who has an edge in modern music. Leona' songs are old fashioned, even her new ones, they all seem to be like copying Mariah Carey from the early 90's. If she continues this route, I dont think she will have the commercial appeal for very long.
Tom4784
30-11-2009, 05:41 PM
On the TV advert for her album, the only song used is 'Happy', instead of 2/3/4 like most albums advertised have.
If that is the best she has got, then she is in trouble.
Not going to stay around long with shite like that.
It's probably because she's only had one single out from the new album while other artists may release 2. No point in playing a snippet of music no one's heard of before it won't make an impact.
Avatar's success could play into Leona's own. If the song does well in the Oscars then it could give her more longevity in America.
Harry!
30-11-2009, 05:45 PM
I don't even know what era it was, I was just throwing darts at a calender kid. IMO she has not been interesting in nearly twenty years.
If that is the case why did her Sticky and Sweet Tour became the highest grossing tour by a solo artist?
setanta
30-11-2009, 05:57 PM
It's probably because she's only had one single out from the new album while other artists may release 2. No point in playing a snippet of music no one's heard of before it won't make an impact.
Avatar's success could play into Leona's own. If the song does well in the Oscars then it could give her more longevity in America.
Good point about Avatar but I'm not sure if she can sustain her elevated position in music for that much longer, do you? She has a nice voice but it's her personality that leaves alot to be desired as well as her obvious lack of variety in performances. She'll still make money for a long time but she's getting abit dull at this stage.
If that is the case why did her Sticky and Sweet Tour became the highest grossing tour by a solo artist?
Who said I was talking about her popularity?
Harry!
30-11-2009, 06:11 PM
Who said I was talking about her popularity?
If she is interesting then she would have alot of popularity...
If she is interesting then she would have alot of popularity...
Not necessarily. Plenty of bands still do huge tours off the back of what they used to be.
Why does every thread have to turn into a Madonna thread?
Harry!
30-11-2009, 06:14 PM
Not necessarily. Plenty of bands still do huge tours off the back of what they used to be.
But Madonna likes to record new material and sing it on her tours. She has said that she loves singing new songs because sometimes she dont want to just sing her old songs all time ( Take her dislike of singing Like A Virgin now for example)
But Madonna likes to record new material and sing it on her tours. She has said that she loves singing new songs because sometimes she dont want to just sing her old songs all time ( Take her dislike of singing Like A Virgin now for example)
Jesus christ Harry, I know she has new material, I just don't like her and don't think she has done anything nearly as interesting or meaningful as what she used to do!
Stephanie
30-11-2009, 06:18 PM
ugh another thread turned into madonna.com
Tom4784
30-11-2009, 06:18 PM
But Madonna likes to record new material and sing it on her tours. She has said that she loves singing new songs because sometimes she dont want to just sing her old songs all time ( Take her dislike of singing Like A Virgin now for example)
How many people would go to her gigs for new songs though? I reckon the main part of the audience are people who were fans of her in the 80's and such, I doubt many teenagers and such would go to a Madonna Gig as she hasn't had as many hits in 80's and 00's comapred to the 80's and such.
She hasn't been REALLY relevant in years although Confessions on a Dancefloor gave her some Kudos.
Harry!
30-11-2009, 06:23 PM
Alright Stu I get your point, I misread your post a bit. That is all.
And Dezzy many new fans love her material, Hard Candy album was the album that got me hooked listening to Madonna's music and I was youngish then.
Plus I would say it depends on when you was born really, A new generation for there to be interest with every album. Her studio albums this decade have all been number 1.
BB_Eye
01-12-2009, 12:36 AM
It would be pretty difficult for Leona to flop. All she really has to be is a meek Mariah Carey for the remainder of her career, which she will almost certainly end up doing.
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