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setanta
28-11-2009, 08:26 AM
Of the last 20 years...

Locke.
28-11-2009, 10:10 AM
I'll go with 10...

1. Jamie Carragher
2. Steven Gerrard
3. Fernando Torres
4. Ronaldo (Brazilian)
5. Michael Owen (Liverpool & Newcastle days)
6. Shay Given
7. Shaun Goater
8. Alan Shearer
9. Robbie Fowler
10. Paul Scholes

andyman
28-11-2009, 11:31 AM
Top 10..

1. John Barnes
2. Steven Gerrard
3. Fernando Torres
4. Ian Rush
5. Jari Litmanen
6. Steve McManaman
7. Robbie Fowler
8. Jamie Carragher
9. Sami Hyypia
10. Bruce Grobbelaar

Novo
28-11-2009, 02:03 PM
1. Nacho Novo
2. Raul
3. Duncan ferguson
4. Alessandro Pistone
5. Mikel Arteta
6. Joseph Yobo
7. David Beckham
8. Ally Mccoist
9. Nuno Valente
10. Gary Linekar

Alf
28-11-2009, 05:12 PM
1 neville southall
2 gary lineker
3 bryan robson
4 wayne rooney
5 paolo maldini
6 tim cahill
7 paul gascoinge
8 roy keane
9 phil jagielka
10 paul mcgrath

Wildcat!
28-11-2009, 05:54 PM
Diego Armando Maradona
roger Milla
Romario
George Weah
Zinedine Zidane
El Hadj Diouf
Gabriel Batistuta
Jurgen Klinsmaan
Eric Cantona
Jay Jay Okocha

Beastie
28-11-2009, 05:54 PM
David Seaman.

30stone
28-11-2009, 05:56 PM
Right now.

Pires
Figo
Van Persie
Henry
Fabregas

HeatherTWx
28-11-2009, 06:01 PM
1.Fernando Torres
2.Steven Gerrard
3.Jamie Carragher
4.Cesc Fabregas
5.Zinedine Zidane

Wildcat!
28-11-2009, 06:16 PM
Of all time:

Diego Maradona
Roger Milla
Michel Platini
Karl Heinz Rummennigge
Zico
George Weah
Johann Cruijff
Rudd Gullitt
Mario Kempes
Socrates

30stone
28-11-2009, 06:18 PM
1.Fernando Torres
2.Steven Gerrard
3.Jamie Carragher
4.Cesc Fabregas
5.Zinedine Zidane

A liverpool fan liking an Arsenal star :shocked:

Novo
28-11-2009, 06:18 PM
Eusebio, Dixie dean and Di stefano would be up there if it was all time

Locke.
28-11-2009, 06:19 PM
A liverpool fan liking an Arsenal star :shocked:

Can't think of a Liverpool fan I know that doesn't like Arsenal really tbh. Main 3 we dislike are Utd, Everton and Chelsea the last 3-4 years.

Novo
28-11-2009, 06:19 PM
Eusébio is so under rated

i'd rank him up there with maradonna and Pele

30stone
28-11-2009, 06:34 PM
Can't think of a Liverpool fan I know that doesn't like Arsenal really tbh. Main 3 we dislike are Utd, Everton and Chelsea the last 3-4 years.

You and andyman insult arsenal the most..

My mate hates arsenal most out of the top 4
Cant stand wenger or gallas..

HeatherTWx
28-11-2009, 06:37 PM
A liverpool fan liking an Arsenal star :shocked:

I dont mind Arsenal, there an alright team.
Its just Man utd and Chelsea i cant stand

Novo
28-11-2009, 06:40 PM
Love united this season

Wildcat!
28-11-2009, 06:46 PM
Eusébio is so under rated

i'd rank him up there with maradonna and Pele

Yeah Eusobio was pretty amazing, and he was really doing it all alone. I ust dont have many footages from him, or many people from that era 60 and 70's. The ones that are my all time favorite, Ive seen a lot of footage of them or seen them play. Thats why I am not rating Pele either.

Locke.
28-11-2009, 06:50 PM
You and andyman insult arsenal the most..

That's because there aren't any Utd or Chelsea fans on here that post

30stone
28-11-2009, 06:52 PM
Love united this season

Can tell anderson over denilson lol!

That's because there aren't any Utd or Chelsea fans on here that post

Suppose yeah, probs why im the same with liverpool..

Princess
28-11-2009, 06:55 PM
David Beckham

I used to be obsessed with him.

setanta
28-11-2009, 11:55 PM
So I have to change the heading to top 10, do I?

Anyway...

1. Michael Laudrup
2. Zinedine Zidane
3. Romario
4. Marco Van Basten
5. Peter Schmeichel
6. Paul McGrath
7. Eric Cantona
8. Buffon
9. Roy Keane
10.George Weah

I think that's it...might change it later!

andyman
28-11-2009, 11:57 PM
Love my list.

30stone
28-11-2009, 11:59 PM
Everyone of them played for the pool?

King Gizzard
28-11-2009, 11:59 PM
John Carew
Martin Laursen
Olof Mellberg
Juan Pablo Angel
James Milner
Zinedene Zidane
Wesley Sneijder
Ruud Van Nistelrooy
Stan Collymore
Peter Schmeicel

Wildcat!
29-11-2009, 12:04 AM
So I have to change the heading to top 10, do I?

Anyway...

1. Michael Laudrup
2. Zinedine Zidane
3. Romario
4. Marco Van Basten
5. Peter Schmeichel
6. Paul McGrath
7. Eric Cantona
8. Buffon
9. Roy Keane
10.George Weah

I think that's it...might change it later!


Great list. We have 4 in common. I cant believe no one has Romario. He was so amazing! Laudrup, van basten, keane, all legends as well.

King Gizzard
29-11-2009, 12:05 AM
They were great..but this list was for favourites

Wildcat!
29-11-2009, 12:06 AM
Everyone of them played for the pool?

Yeah thats very unbiased Andyman. :rolleyes: :blush:

setanta
29-11-2009, 12:09 AM
Great list. We have 4 in common. I cant believe no one has Romario. He was so amazing! Laudrup, van basten, keane, all legends as well.

I was thinking about putting some more backs in, but this is all about your favs and the ones who put a smile on your face so I had to go for the more attacking players. Laudrup was a genius as far as I'm concerned.

James
29-11-2009, 12:09 AM
Brian Laudrup
Richard Gough
Gazza
Maradona
Platini - though a bit outside the last 20 years

Not too sure about order.

Edit Zidane and Michael Laudrup also.

setanta
29-11-2009, 12:10 AM
I was considering Gazza but he kinda underachieved even though he was another magical player.

Novo
29-11-2009, 12:12 AM
Micheal Mols

Wildcat!
29-11-2009, 12:12 AM
Brian Laudrup
Richard Gough
Gazza
Maradona
Platini - though a bit outside the last 20 years

Not too sure about order.

1982 world cup had some of my favorite players:

Maradona, Platini, Rummenigge, Zico, Altobelli, Boniek, Milla, Madjer (Algeria beating Germany was the huge upset of the tourney). my favorite english player was Paul MAriner.... Great World cup finals.

bronaaaa
29-11-2009, 12:14 AM
1 Ashley Cole
2 Theirry Henry

..that's it :P

setanta
29-11-2009, 12:14 AM
Early 80s were great .... that's why I just did the last 20 years cuz it would be too much work to sift through all of them!

Wildcat!
29-11-2009, 12:15 AM
Early 80s were great .... that's why I just did the last 20 years cuz it would be too much work to sift through all of them!

Yeah! that is true.:blush:

James
29-11-2009, 12:17 AM
'84 Euro Championships were great. Platini and Michael Laudrup at their best.

setanta
29-11-2009, 12:18 AM
'84 Euro Championships were great. Platini and Michael Laudrup at their best.

Don't get me started on how much I love Michael Laudrup. He had everything. Puts players nowadays to shame.

Novo
29-11-2009, 12:19 AM
I have that england's greatest games video from years ago

one of the games on it was England 4-2 Cameroon

Remember Roger Milla scoring in that game think it was around 1990

Wildcat!
29-11-2009, 12:20 AM
Don't get me started on how much I love Michael Laudrup. He had everything. Puts players nowadays to shame.

HOw about Preben elkjaer Larsen? Dont remember the spelling. He was a danish beast.

James
29-11-2009, 12:20 AM
1982 world cup had some of my favorite players:

Maradona, Platini, Rummenigge, Zico, Altobelli, Boniek, Milla, Madjer (Algeria beating Germany was the huge upset of the tourney). my favorite english player was Paul MAriner.... Great World cup finals.

Brazil '82, best team never to have won the World Cup.

Wildcat!
29-11-2009, 12:22 AM
Brazil '82, best team never to have won the World Cup.

Definitely! Travesty, when Paolo Rossi went of on them. I remember from tapes their players like Zico, Socrates, FAlcao, Eder, Junior, Cerezo..... They played like a symphony orchestra!

setanta
29-11-2009, 12:24 AM
HOw about Preben elkjaer Larsen? Dont remember the spelling. He was a danish beast.

I wouldn't know as much about him to be honest with you cuz I was never huge into Italian football... still watched Milan though obviously. Michael Laudrup was who I grew up with, you know? Romario and him together - beautiful stuff.

Novo
29-11-2009, 12:25 AM
Romario and socrates

andyman
29-11-2009, 12:26 AM
Meh... Mexico 86 :cheer2:

Wildcat!
29-11-2009, 12:27 AM
Romario and socrates

Yeah they were great1
For James!!
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setanta
29-11-2009, 12:39 AM
They were great..but this list was for favourites

Yeah, from the last 20 years. The players nowadays don't float my boat as much at those lads in my list. Only ones who come close are people like Rooney when he's in the mood and Ronaldinho a few years back. Can't think of many more who can come close to the older generation of footballers.

Wildcat!
29-11-2009, 12:43 AM
Yeah, from the last 20 years. The players nowadays don't float my boat as much at those lads in my list. Only ones who come close are people like Rooney when he's in the mood and Ronaldinho a few years back. Can't think of many more who can come close to the older generation of footballers.

There are a few left, like Christiano Ronaldo to be fair, JayJay Okocha when he was in top form, and I think Joe Cole got some flair as well, when he is not injured.

30stone
29-11-2009, 01:23 AM
For me Players nowadays are better than ever..

1 Robert Pires - France
http://www.sportsignings.com/images/products/products/ARSENAL/Image26.jpg

2 Luis Figo - Portugal
http://www.cbc.ca/sports/fifau20/assets/contentImages/newsmakers/luisfigo.jpg

3 Van Persie - Holland
http://www.fansfc.com/UploadedImages/Players/Robin_Van_Persie_633567237313281250.jpg

4 Thierry Henry - France
http://img.thesun.co.uk/multimedia/archive/00468/henry_280x390_468458a.jpg

5 Francesc Fabregas - Spain
http://www.4thegame.com/media/00/04/06/cesc_fabregas.jpg

6 Rustu Recber - Turkey
http://www.thespoiler.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2008/06/rushtu.jpg

7 Fredrik Ljungberg - Sweden
http://7amkickoff.files.wordpress.com/2008/10/freddie.jpg

8 Alessandro Nesta - Italy
http://www5.calshop.biz/notizie/wp-content/uploads/2006/05/Alessandro%20Nesta%20%28Milan%29%20%28Omega%29.jpg

9 Fernando Morientes - Spain
http://i.telegraph.co.uk/telegraph/multimedia/archive/00803/fernando_morientes1_803011c.jpg

10 Michael Ballack - Germany
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2008/06/06/article-0-0170C18800000578-992_468x491.jpg

11 David Villa - Spain
http://spanishballs.files.wordpress.com/2009/03/davidvilla.jpg

12 Zlatan Ibrahimovic - Sweden
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2008/06/14/article-1026491-019C63B200000578-947_306x351.jpg

There you go pictures and nationality included.

andyman
29-11-2009, 01:28 AM
Silly Ben.. No Torres? Don't make me slap you.

30stone
29-11-2009, 01:30 AM
Fernando Morientes > Fernando Torres

Why would i put torres on my favourites anyway?

andyman
29-11-2009, 01:35 AM
Because Torres destroys Scum Utd everytime, and you hate Scum Utd.

Top tune! Aswad - Don't Turn Around.

30stone
29-11-2009, 01:41 AM
But i dont like him too much, hes a good scorer..

Hes supposedly strong and goes down often
and is overated for me.

Rustu Recber was a great keeper, still is!

andyman
29-11-2009, 01:44 AM
Just check my top ten..

Alf
29-11-2009, 01:45 AM
a shame this guy died age 21

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30stone
29-11-2009, 01:45 AM
Yeah well.

You should be happy i have a liverpool player on mine...

30stone
29-11-2009, 01:49 AM
Just check my top ten..

Fernando Morientes
Better goal scoring record for spain than raul, david villa and Fernando torres..

From his liverpool days
http://javierlainez.files.wordpress.com/2009/03/morientes.jpg

Alf
29-11-2009, 01:56 AM
Fernando Morientes
Better goal scoring record for spain than raul, david villa and Fernando torres..

From his liverpool days
http://javierlainez.files.wordpress.com/2009/03/morientes.jpg
he's not a better player than torres or raul though, it's not all about who scores the goals football's a team game

setanta
29-11-2009, 01:57 AM
You can keep all your Torres' and Villa's and whoever - here's the real deal.

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30stone
29-11-2009, 02:01 AM
he's not a better player than torres or raul though, it's not all about who scores the goals football's a team game

Of course its not, but it shows he was a good scorer, no real vids other than scoring ones..
He was a classy player

Alf
29-11-2009, 02:02 AM
You can keep all your Torres' and Villa's and whoever - here's the real deal.

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gary lineker would spit in his general direction

you ever needed a goal, gary lineker would get it for you

setanta
29-11-2009, 02:05 AM
gary lineker would spit in his general direction

you ever needed a goal, gary lineker would get it for you

Van Basten was in a different class to Lineker. Hey, I liked Lineker but lets be rational here.

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Alf
29-11-2009, 02:06 AM
Of course its not, but it shows he was a good scorer, no real vids other than scoring ones..
He was a classy player
he is a great player not just a goalscorer he's a clever player aswell, but he cant make the same sort of impact on a game like a raul or a torres can.

andyman
29-11-2009, 02:12 AM
lol.. Shame he never DID BETTER AGAINST WEST GERMANY BACK IN 1990! ffs..

David Platt goal in Italia 90.. Oh yes!

setanta
29-11-2009, 02:19 AM
lol.. Shame he never DID BETTER AGAINST WEST GERMANY BACK IN 1990! ffs..

David Platt goal in Italia 90.. Oh yes!

I never said Lineker was bad- he's just not in the same league as Van Basten, that's all.

Alf
29-11-2009, 02:23 AM
Van Basten was in a different class to Lineker. Hey, I liked Lineker but lets be rational here.

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he had a good tournament in 88, and had a couple of good seasons for ac milan in a great and successful team, but never played in england (the toughest league in the world), didn't make an impact in any world cup he was in, and thats marco van basten

now gary lineker
in 1986 scored 40 goals for everton (including 1 in the fa cup final) and then went to the world cup and was top scorer in the tournament with 6,
he then went to barcalona and scored goals and is still loved there
he then took an apparantly average england side with is goals (5 in all) to the brink of the world cup final.
then his goals helped spurs win the fa cup final in 91
oh yes and he is second only behind the legend that is sir bobby charlton in england goalscring records (1 goal behind) and if he didn't retire from international football (because of the turnip) he would have surpassed him.

andyman
29-11-2009, 02:23 AM
The flying Dutchman!

andyman
29-11-2009, 02:25 AM
Euro 92... Dark dark days.

setanta
29-11-2009, 02:35 AM
he had a good tournament in 88, and had a couple of good seasons for ac milan in a great and successful team, but never played in england (the toughest league in the world), didn't make an impact in any world cup he was in, and thats marco van basten

now gary lineker
in 1986 scored 40 goals for everton (including 1 in the fa cup final) and then went to the world cup and was top scorer in the tournament with 6,
he then went to barcalona and scored goals and is still loved there
he then took an apparantly average england side with is goals (5 in all) to the brink of the world cup final.
then his goals helped spurs reach the fa cup final in 91
oh yes and he is second only behind the legend that is sir bobby charlton in england goalscring records (1 goal behind) and if he didn't retire from international football (because of the turnip) he would have surpassed him.

You do realise that Holland didn't qualify in 86 and lost to West Germany in the second round of 90, in a heated, confrontational encounter. The fact that Van Basten played at all during this period is amazing since he was blighted by a persistent ankle injury that eventually led to his premature retirement.

Anyway.... Fifa World Player of the Year 92
European Footballer of the Year - 88,89,92

I could go on and on.

Alf
29-11-2009, 02:42 AM
You do realise that Holland didn't qualify in 86 and lost to West Germany in the second round of 90, in a heated, confrontational encounter. The fact that Van Basten played at all during this period is amazing since he was blighted by a persistent ankle injury that eventually led to his premature retirement.

Anyway.... Fifa World Player of the Year 92
European Footballer of the Year - 88,89,92

I could go on and on.
go on then

setanta
29-11-2009, 02:44 AM
go on then

Lol, is that not enough? Forget about honours because I could go on with that for awhile: lets just talk about general play and technique. Van Basten was on another level in terms of balance, strength, vision and dribbling ability. There's no comparison really. True, Lineker was a great poacher but Van Basten would be the one I'd pay to go and see.

andyman
29-11-2009, 02:46 AM
Spit gate! Lol.. Think it was in 1990..

Ahhh Italia 90, Rodger Miller with his corner flag dance.

setanta
29-11-2009, 02:50 AM
Spit gate! Lol.. Think it was in 1990..

Ahhh Italia 90, Rodger Miller with his corner flag dance.

It was indeed. Ridiculous scenes to watch... hysterical though. Klinsmann was fantastic in that match.

Alf
29-11-2009, 02:51 AM
Lol, is that not enough? Forget about honours because I could go on with that for awhile: lets just talk about general play and technique. Van Basten was on another level in terms of balance, strength, vision and dribbling ability. There's no comparison really. True, Lineker was a great poacher but Van Basten would be the one I'd pay to go and see.
i'll give you dribbling abilty and mabye balance, but not the other two and lineker was more brave, a better goalscorer, and could hold the ball up as good as alan shearer could, so dont say van basten was a stronger player than lineker

Wildcat!
29-11-2009, 02:58 AM
he had a good tournament in 88, and had a couple of good seasons for ac milan in a great and successful team, but never played in england (the toughest league in the world), didn't make an impact in any world cup he was in, and thats marco van basten

now gary lineker
in 1986 scored 40 goals for everton (including 1 in the fa cup final) and then went to the world cup and was top scorer in the tournament with 6,
he then went to barcalona and scored goals and is still loved there
he then took an apparantly average england side with is goals (5 in all) to the brink of the world cup final.
then his goals helped spurs win the fa cup final in 91
oh yes and he is second only behind the legend that is sir bobby charlton in england goalscring records (1 goal behind) and if he didn't retire from international football (because of the turnip) he would have surpassed him.


LOL! Are you out of your mind? At the time Lineker and Van Basten where playing, the Calcio was the best league in the world. The Premier league only got the edge in the late 90's and 200os, when all the big investors started buying all the best players in the world, and when they stopped having limits for foreign players. Like Setanta said, Van Basten is in a total different league than Lineker. Average team? England arguably had their best teams in 1990.
Van BAsten was the best striker, in the world, while Lineker was playing, not only the best striker, but one of the best players in the world. ON the world stage he has a hell of a lot more titles than Lineker, European championships, clubs and country.
The european cup twice, supercup twice, the Italian league 3 times, World soccer player of the year twice, best player in europe 3 times. He scored more than 25 goals 4 times in the toughest defensive league in the world, and the best league in the world in the late 80s and 90s.

ANd titles aside, which isnt even close, Van Basten was a much more complete player than Lineker, anyone who knows football will tell you that, I am sure even Lineker would.

Its not even close.

setanta
29-11-2009, 02:59 AM
i'll give you dribbling abilty and mabye balance, but not the other two and lineker was more brave, a better goalscorer, and could hold the ball up as good as alan shearer could, so dont say van basten was a stronger player than lineker

He was definitely a more aggressive player than Lineker, as well as being the taller and stronger of the pair. The only thing Lineker probably had on him was basic speed and positioning for the easy tap ins but Van Basten added so much to a team in so many other areas, plus his goalscoring record at club level is better than Linekers. Lineker -461 (239) Van Basten -280 (218) And there's not much in it at international level.

Alf
29-11-2009, 03:13 AM
LOL! Are you out of your mind? At the time Lineker and Van Basten where playing, the Calcio was the best league in the world. The Premier league only got the edge in the late 90's and 200os, when all the big investors started buying all the best players in the world, and when they stopped having limits for foreign players. Like Setanta said, Van Basten is in a total different league than Lineker. Average team? England arguably had their best teams in 1990.
Van BAsten was the best striker, in the world, while Lineker was playing, not only the best striker, but one of the best players in the world. ON the world stage he has a hell of a lot more titles than Lineker, European championships, clubs and country.
Its not even close.
1977 european cup winners liverpool (england)
1978 european cup winners liverpool (england)
1979 european cup winners nottingham forest (england)
1980 european cup winners nottingham forest (england)
1981 european cup winners liverpool (england)
1982 european cup winners aston villa (england)
1984 european cup winners liverpool (england)
1985 european cup runners up liverpool (england) after that they decided to kick us out of the european cup for five years, can you blame them? it was getting a bit easy as you can see, since we've been back in we've won in three more times and had four beaten finalists and are now domminating that much platini is starting to cry.

so van basten had he's era without the best players in the world there

setanta
29-11-2009, 03:21 AM
Not entirely true Wannashag. England had a great run in the late 70's and early 80's, but Italian football was already emerging as a powerful league with Liverpool only beating Roma on penalties in 84 and Juventus beating them 1-0 the following year, so it's fairly obvious that a change was happening anyway.

Wildcat!
29-11-2009, 03:22 AM
1977 european cup winners liverpool (england)
1978 european cup winners liverpool (england)
1979 european cup winners nottingham forest (england)
1980 european cup winners nottingham forest (england)
1981 european cup winners liverpool (england)
1982 european cup winners aston villa (england)
1984 european cup winners liverpool (england)
1985 european cup runners up liverpool (england) after that they decided to kick us out of the european cup for five years, can you blame them? it was getting a bit easy as you can see, since we've been back in we've won in three more times and had four beaten finalists and are now domminating that much platini starting to cry.

so van basten had he's era without the best players in the world there


Errm, yeah. Thanks for proving my point. Thats when the Italina league became the best in the world. The English league was banned, and as a result, all the best players in the world went to Italy and spain. Milan dominated Europe after that, and thats when Van Basten and Lineker were playing, which is where the relevacne lie. And 3 more times, where just like I told you, in the late 90s and 2000. English teams didnt win any European championship from 84 till man u in 98. The ban was lifted in 1990. You are doing nothing but proving my point, that Van Basten played in the toughest league in the world. Lineker didnt.

Alf
29-11-2009, 03:26 AM
Errm, yeah. Thanks for proving my point. Thats when the Italina league became the best in the world. The English league was banned, and as a result, all the best players in the world went to Italy and spain. Milan dominated Europe after that, and thats when Van Basten and Lineker were playing, which is where the relevacne lie. And 3 more times, where just like I told you, in the late 90s and 2000. You are doing nothing but proving my point, that Van Basten played in the toughest league in the world. Lineker didnt.
yeah your right

Alf
29-11-2009, 03:33 AM
Not entirely true Wannashag. England had a great run in the late 70's and early 80's, but Italian football was already emerging as a powerful league with Liverpool only beating Roma on penalties in 84 and Juventus beating them 1-0 the following year, so it's fairly obvious that a change was happening anyway.
everton would have won it in 86 after winning the league and cup winners cup the season prior,
the liverpool side of 88 with barnes, beardsley, aldridge and mcmahon was a brilliant team, even if wimbledon beat them in the cup final
and how well could george grahams arsenal teams have done? you think them fancy dan italians would like to play against them?

setanta
29-11-2009, 04:16 AM
everton would have won it in 86 after winning the league and cup winners cup the season prior,
the liverpool side of 88 with barnes, beardsley, aldridge and mcmahon was a brilliant team, even if wimbledon beat them in the cup final
and how well could george grahams arsenal teams have done? you think them fancy dan italians would like to play against them?

It would have been interesting alright, but the point is that whatever English side got through would almost certainly have faced the great Milan team of the late 80's and early 90's. They were unstoppable in a league that was attracting all the high profile names of the time.

setanta
29-11-2009, 08:52 AM
Can't believe I forgot Brazilian Ronaldo. Throwing him in instead of Buffon.

1. Michael Laudrup
2. Zinedine Zidane
3. Romario
4. Marco Van Basten
5. Peter Schmeichel
6. Paul McGrath
7. Eric Cantona
8. Ronaldo (Brazilian)
9. Roy Keane
10.Think I'm going to put in Roberto Baggio ahead of Weah