View Full Version : Foxy Knoxy- Guilty or Not guilty?
NettoSuperstar!
04-12-2009, 11:38 AM
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/dec/03/amanda-knox-meredith-kercher-case
Lauren
04-12-2009, 11:39 AM
Messed up case. Somethings amiss, but we haven't heard what the jury panel have.
They already have the guy responsible for Meredith's murder don't they. He's serving a jail sentence at the moment. His account of what happened:
Guede's account of the evening was that he and the victim had consensual sex, after which he became sick from a bad kebab and left the room to use the toilet. He claimed to be listening to music on his iPod while using the facilities and thus did not hear the killer enter the house. He did, however, hear Kercher scream, and emerged to see the murderer, an Italian man whom he did not know, stabbing Kercher. As the man escaped, he said "You're in trouble, you black bastard" after which Guede claims to have been so frightened that he fled the scene and made his way to Germany.Sounds highly ridiculous amd unrealistic :shocked:
Knox and her boyfriend probably know more about what happened than they claim, and have already changed parts of their story a few times. Italian law is ridiculous though. Defendants aren't required to tell the truth, and are permitted to lie and will not face perjury charges if they do. Lawyers regularly and openly tell information about a case to the media, before the case even comes to trial, and that's normal. In a case like this where the media has taken such a keen interest, most people probably made up their minds before the evidence was taken into account which must make it tricker for the Jury :conf:
NettoSuperstar!
04-12-2009, 01:25 PM
Yeh the Italians ballsed it up big time. I personally think its more likely she had one attacker, its rarer for it to be a group, and he was the only one that ran off aswell (Guede). It seems to be circumstantial evidence against the other two
GypsyGoth
04-12-2009, 10:35 PM
I think she is innocent.
andyman
04-12-2009, 11:20 PM
She played a part in her death, lust for the flesh of others and a control freak..
One of her sex games went wrong.
Smithy
04-12-2009, 11:31 PM
shes been found guilty and sentenced to 26 years
Smithy
04-12-2009, 11:33 PM
and her ex bf has been sentencd to 25 years
GypsyGoth
04-12-2009, 11:35 PM
I feel sorry for her :sad:
SiaSiaSia
04-12-2009, 11:43 PM
I KNEW she'd be found guilty, she's far too smug
but i'm not sure if she actually IS guilty. I guess we'll never know?
GypsyGoth
04-12-2009, 11:53 PM
I KNEW she'd be found guilty, she's far too smug
but i'm not sure if she actually IS guilty. I guess we'll never know?
I thought she looked like she was brainwashed.
I bet they make a movie about it.
Sticks
05-12-2009, 11:53 AM
I feel sorry for her :sad:
DON'T :mad:
She got what was coming, in fact she should have got life
I am hoping they make her serve that nine months in solitary the prosecution asked for, with even the guards banned from speaking to her. I would have her in solitary for the rest of her natural miserable life, and ban any visits from anyone.
If she were my daughter, I would have disowned her long ago, her father should do the same.
She does not even have the decency to stop lying and admit her guilt, which was blatantly obvious to everyone. The only question I have, was why they had to take 13 hours to deliberate, 13 seconds was all that was needed.
For what she did to Meredith, lets hope she rots!!!!!
arista
05-12-2009, 12:03 PM
Messed up case. Somethings amiss, but we haven't heard what the jury panel have.
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2009/12/05/article-1233281-022CC87C000004B0-486_634x482.jpg
Sinister: Raffaele Sollecito in a macabre image that featured on his own website
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worldnews/article-1233281/Amanda-Knox-Italian-boyfriend-GUILTY-NOT-GUILTY-murdering-Meredith-Kercher.html#
Guilty
of being part of this Sex Game that went Wrong.
The Yank is Guilty
so is her then boy- Raffaele.
DrunkerThanMoses
05-12-2009, 12:05 PM
I thought she was not guilty, but I knew they would find her guilty.
Deirdre
05-12-2009, 12:26 PM
I agree with what the prosecution made her out to be, 'narcissistic, aggressive, manipulative, transgressive, with a tendency to dominate'.
Not only was she 'easily given to disliking people she disagreed with' but was a 'talented and calculating liar'.
I do think that they killed her, but I don't think Knox actually slit her throat, I don't think it will ever be known who actually did that.
And Guede's account of what happened is laughable! That man sounds like an idiot.
biglover
05-12-2009, 12:27 PM
she is obvs guilty
Sticks
05-12-2009, 05:04 PM
If the Knox family had any shred of decency, they would not bleat about appeals, and disown and disinherit that murdering scheming individual
arista
05-12-2009, 05:23 PM
If the Knox family had any shred of decency, they would not bleat about appeals, and disown and disinherit that murdering scheming individual
Yes that evil Girl (known as Foxy Knoxy)
even had Rape Ideas on her Site
ITVNews said today.
They already have the guy responsible for Meredith's murder don't they. He's serving a jail sentence at the moment. His account of what happened:
Sounds highly ridiculous amd unrealistic :shocked:
Knox and her boyfriend probably know more about what happened than they claim, and have already changed parts of their story a few times. Italian law is ridiculous though. Defendants aren't required to tell the truth, and are permitted to lie and will not face perjury charges if they do. Lawyers regularly and openly tell information about a case to the media, before the case even comes to trial, and that's normal. In a case like this where the media has taken such a keen interest, most people probably made up their minds before the evidence was taken into account which must make it tricker for the Jury :conf:
How convenient that the bad kebab took until after sex to make him feel sick, and the moment he went to the toilet was the moment the killer came in
andyman
05-12-2009, 05:47 PM
She tried to blame the nightclub owner..
26 years is not enough for such evil.
AndyJK
09-12-2009, 02:30 PM
Personally I dont think she's guilty. There is no firm evidence as I have seen to prove her guilt.
And if she's evil and premeditated this murder as its been presumed, why wouldnt she have planned it a lot better? Why the change in statements? Why the 'strange' behaviour after her she was arrested? Why plan a murder in her own apartment? What motive would she have of killing a friend? Why inveigle the help of a man like Guede?
I dont have faith in our own judicial system, look at the amount of miscarriages of justice we've seen. So I would expect the Italian system and methods to be a lot worse.
In my opinion the press (as usual) have condemned Knox and her former b/f by printing damaging misleading stories paiting them in a very bad light since this whole thing started up which I think may well have swung a jury.
As in cases in this country there is no such thing as innocent until proven guilty, more guilty until proven innocent. How sad.
NettoSuperstar!
11-12-2009, 11:05 AM
Personally I dont think she's guilty. There is no firm evidence as I have seen to prove her guilt.
And if she's evil and premeditated this murder as its been presumed, why wouldnt she have planned it a lot better? Why the change in statements? Why the 'strange' behaviour after her she was arrested? Why plan a murder in her own apartment? What motive would she have of killing a friend? Why inveigle the help of a man like Guede?
I dont have faith in our own judicial system, look at the amount of miscarriages of justice we've seen. So I would expect the Italian system and methods to be a lot worse.
In my opinion the press (as usual) have condemned Knox and her former b/f by printing damaging misleading stories paiting them in a very bad light since this whole thing started up which I think may well have swung a jury.
As in cases in this country there is no such thing as innocent until proven guilty, more guilty until proven innocent. How sad.
I agree on what information we've been given, I dont think theres enough to convict. Shes been painted as some evil bitch, but none of the evidence Ive seen makes her any different to most young people
Sticks
11-12-2009, 03:43 PM
Apart from the fact she murdered Meredith
NettoSuperstar!
11-12-2009, 04:38 PM
Well so they say Sticks, so they say, seems like there wasnt enough to convict to me...but then I wasnt in court so...
WOMBAI
11-12-2009, 06:02 PM
Naturally there is going to be evidence that is not made public. Members of the public are not entitled to know all the details. She has been found guilty - so very likely she is!
AndyJK
12-12-2009, 10:41 PM
I agree on what information we've been given, I dont think theres enough to convict. Shes been painted as some evil bitch, but none of the evidence Ive seen makes her any different to most young people
As we know after Knox was arrested the press printed photos of her laughing pretending to fire a WW2 sentry gun, her boyfriend pictured masked holding a cleaver, waxed lyrical about their private lives, nick named her "Foxy Knoxy", all carefully manipulated to portray them as evil maniacs to fill their front pages while we gossip about how horrible they pressuming their guilt.
If I was carefully planning a murder of a friend with no motive or reward, I wouldn't have it carried out in an apartment where my finger prints, possibly DNA could be left incriminating myself and arousing suspicion. It doesnt make sense. Does it to you or anyone else here who seem convinced of her guilt? The morning after they appeared calm and people thought this strange. Well, if they had murdered someone I would expect them to be somewhere else establising alibis.
They were never going to get a fair trial and frankly the case should have been thrown out as Guede has already been found guilty of murder.
I have read in detail a lot of famous and not so famous murder cases and this is one of most confusing cases I have ever come across. I can't 100% they are not guilty of course, but then neither can anyone here say there are no such things as miscarriages of justice.
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