Campaign to stop X Factor getting Xmas #1!!!

[Stu]

Rage Against The Machine are to make a bid to beat this year's winner of 'The X Factor' to the UK's Christmas Number One single position.

A Facebook group asking people to buy the band's 'Killing In The Name' has at the time of writing attracted over 45,000 members.

The group states that fans should buy the song from December 13 – the same day that this year's X Factor winner's song becomes available.

Twitter users are also showing their support for the petition by retweeting the following message: "Rage Against The Machine For Xmas No.1 #ratm4xmas See here for details http://bit.ly/inthename please RT".

Although it hasn't been confirmed yet, the winner of 'The X Factor' 2009 is reportedly set to release a cover of Miley Cyrus' 'The Climb' as their Christmas single.

A similar petition for Jeff Buckley's 'Hallelujah' was launched last year in reaction to 'The X Factor' winner Alexandra Burke releasing her version of the song for Christmas.

Although Burke still topped the UK singles charts with the song, Buckley's rendition of the Leonard Cohen classic reached the Number Two position.

This year's Christmas Number One single will be announced on December 20.

http://www.nme.com/news/rage-against-the-machine/48727

Good on them, hope it gets somewhere! :thumbs:

[\PJ/]

I was waitng for something like this to come along.

[M X]

Pathetic.

[Tom]

If Joe wins I'll be the first person downloading RATM

But I'd rather people campaigned with something Christmassy!! Like Fairytale of New York! Start a campaign for that :)

[Princess]

Yeah good luck to them with that.....

No matter how hard anyone tries,nothing is gonna beat X Factor to Christmas Number 1 ,it's too powerful.

[Stu]

Pathetic.
Care to elaborate? I think it's a nice gesture. Do you personally enjoy one man having a personal monopoly on the Christmas charts? Do you believe it healthy for the creative state of the music business or inspiring to young artists?

[Maia]

This'll be the last (Christmas) No. 1 of the entire decade, and I do NOT want Simon Cowell reigning the charts for a 5th year running.

Let's hope we're in for an epic big surprise this Christmas! :shocked:

[MarkWaldorf]

45,000 members? lmfao the single gets that amount of downloads within hours of it being up for download.

[arista]

There is also the Joke Xmas song
Scouse 'Calm Down'

[Beastie]

Lol! Yeah I would find it hilarious if Rage Against the Machine, or any other artist beat X Factor to number 1 :D Just something different and would be funny to piss on Mr Simon Cowell's parade!

[arista]

This'll be the last (Christmas) No. 1 of the entire decade, and I do NOT want Simon Cowell reigning the charts for a 5th year running.

Let's hope we're in for an epic big surprise this Christmas! :shocked:


Do not worry about SonyBMG Simon Cowell
he can not enter your home.

[Iceman]

**** you i want do what you tell me!

[NettoSuperstar!]

Rage against the machine hehe...I would love it, it'll never happen tho

[LemonJam]

Care to elaborate? I think it's a nice gesture. Do you personally enjoy one man having a personal monopoly on the Christmas charts? Do you believe it healthy for the creative state of the music business or inspiring to young artists?

100% agreed.

[Stu]

I don't think anybody expects it to happen TBH, it's a more a tongue in cheek gesture. Even if it gets somewhere in the charts it will be funny seeing it there!

[Iceman]

fkuOAY-S6OY

for the kids who dont know this masterpiece!

[Tom]

45,000 members? lmfao the single gets that amount of downloads within hours of it being up for download.

Now up to 53,000. They have a week to get about another 150,000 members, otherwise some bright spark might come up with the idea of everyone downloading it 2-3 times. Then it will probably get #1.

X Factor will probably get about 200,000 sales

[MarkWaldorf]

i'm sorry but there's no way this'll get to number one. if only artists like alexandra burke and cheryl cole have topped sales of 200,000 this year, there's no hope for these guys.

and alex sold 500,000 first week last year. it should be at least 300-400,000 this year.

[Stu]

No doubt some people with a vested interest in the state of music and money to burn like a motha****a will buy stock boxes full of the song.

The only thing I imagine people will have difficulty with though is the fact that you will have to order it by digital download. I can't imagine they still print copies of this 1992 single, and I highly doubt HMV are going to stock it anytime soon like they are going to do with the X-Factor single.

I know physical purchased count for nought these days, but still :confused:.

[MarkWaldorf]

^physical will be the main winner in this battle considering the winners single usually makes a mammoth amount in pre-orders alone.

[Tom]

i'm sorry but there's no way this'll get to number one. if only artists like alexandra burke and cheryl cole have topped sales of 200,000 this year, there's no hope for these guys.

and alex sold 500,000 first week last year. it should be at least 300-400,000 this year.

I don't think this years winner will come close to Alexandra tbh

I think 300,000 at a complete push

[Tom4784]

It's pointless but I do hope it does well, the winner's single is always soulless and disappointing as it's basically a mould nobody can really make it their own. They might as well release the same song every year.

[Beastie]

Apparently Shane Ward is releasing his 3rd albulm next year!

[Stu]

^physical will be the main winner in this battle considering the winners single usually makes a mammoth amount in pre-orders alone.
And also considering the huge amount of ... well ... young children who buy the X-Factor single have to buy it physical because internet ordering is a little outside grasp.

[MarkWaldorf]

and the fact it's a miley cyrus song will only drive them out in droves. ;)

[Harry!]

A internet campaign WILL NOT stop it. It NEEDS to be on the front cover of EVERY newspaper and on EVERY TV channel and on EVERY site in this god dammed world to stop XF having the charts. I HATE having the XF as the Xmas number 1. SO LAME!!!!!!

[Tom4784]

and the fact it's a miley cyrus song will only drive them out in droves. ;)

It'll have more chance of alienating more people really, Miley Cyrus isn't generally popular outside of teenage girls. Look at her previous UK chart success, the best she'd done is knock on the top 10's door WITH a loyal fanbase that's at an age which should be easy to market to.

It won't do better then last year.

[Tom]

and the fact it's a miley cyrus song will only drive them out in droves. ;)

It won't, if anything they'll be more inclined to by the original

[Z]

Does nobody see what's going on there? I'd treat this legitimately if it were 1) a Christmassy song or 2) a new song; but it's neither. To me this reeks of 'we fancy some extra income this Christmas, let's market one of our old songs as being the alternative to the X Factor, people will buy it just to spite Simon Cowell.'

Thumbs down.

[Patrick]

Who the **** is this band?


They`re pathetic little bastards if they think people are going to buy their retarded song over X Factor.
This years series has been the most popular, and will be #1 for weeks.

That band are full of Brain Dead Prats if they think people will actually support them.
I bet that band auditioned for X Factor but didnt get through the first round and they`re just pissed off at Simon and want to beat the show to Xmas #1


X factor will be Christmas #1 every year until the show ends for good.

Cant wait to see that bands reaction when they dont even make it into the Top 40 Countdown :joker:

[MarkWaldorf]

if you look at all the young girls who buy into the cheryl cole/x factor brand, i think they'll be pretty ecstactic with the song choice. plus the song was pretty popular here, it was in the charts for a while iirc always within the top 20 and was her biggest hit.

the song is clearly aimed at the teenage market no matter how you see it.

[Z]

Whoa there Patrick, I'm assuming you're like 13; RATM are actually older than you. That song was released in 1993, they pre-date reality TV.

[MarkWaldorf]

and it's also worth noting that the winners single from most reality contests has always gone to number one, regardless of the date it charted. the hype will crush this campaign.

[Tom]

Who the **** is this band?


They`re pathetic little bastards if they think people are going to buy their retarded song over X Factor.
This years series has been the most popular, and will be #1 for weeks.

That band are full of Brain Dead Prats if they think people will actually support them.
I bet that band auditioned for X Factor but didnt get through the first round and they`re just pissed off at Simon and want to beat the show to Xmas #1


X factor will be Christmas #1 every year until the show ends for good.

Cant wait to see that bands reaction when they dont even make it into the Top 40 Countdown :joker:

Your post is full of crap. Do your research before saying stuff like that. Have you seen their album discography and sales? You're the one that now, to quote you, looks like a brain dead prat.

if you look at all the young girls who buy into the cheryl cole/x factor brand, i think they'll be pretty ecstactic with the song choice. plus the song was pretty popular here, it was in the charts for a while iirc always within the top 20 and was her biggest hit.

the song is clearly aimed at the teenage market no matter how you see it.

You don't need to sell that much to get into the top 20, its the top 10 where its a bit more competitive

[MarkWaldorf]

well you can expect it to enter the top ten then. :p

[Stu]

Zee and Patrick : You both realize this campaign has got nothing to do with Rage Against The Machine themselves?

[Tom4784]

Who the **** is this band?


They`re pathetic little bastards if they think people are going to buy their retarded song over X Factor.
This years series has been the most popular, and will be #1 for weeks.

That band are full of Brain Dead Prats if they think people will actually support them.
I bet that band auditioned for X Factor but didnt get through the first round and they`re just pissed off at Simon and want to beat the show to Xmas #1


X factor will be Christmas #1 every year until the show ends for good.

Cant wait to see that bands reaction when they dont even make it into the Top 40 Countdown :joker:

RATM are more successful and have had a longer career then most XF winners could dream of. Props to you for making an hilariously ignorant post though it did make me laugh.

[Tom]

well you can expect it to enter the top ten then. :p

Miley or X Factor? If you think Miley will be in the top 10 I highly doubt it. Everyone who already wants that song probably has it

[Z]

Zee and Patrick : You both realize this campaign has got nothing to do with Rage Against The Machine themselves?

Oh! I didn't, no.

Anyway, to me the Christmas number one should be something that relates to Christmas time in some way. I don't think that song's any better than the X Factor one; I'd rather see something like the Pogues go to number 1. Hell, even Mariah Carey, just as long as it's not another Simon Cowell Christmas bonus!

[Z]

I was thrown by the "Rage Against The Machine are to make a bid" bit at the start of the article, woops!

[Stu]

I was thrown by the "Rage Against The Machine are to make a bid" bit at the start of the article, woops!
It was a trivial mistake, no biggie. Patrick however posted the biggest smear of **** I have ever witnessed in my life.

Actually, now that you mention it, if The Pogues were the song for this campaign, I think it's entirely plausible they could get to #1 again!

[Patrick]

Whoa there Patrick, I'm assuming you're like 13; RATM are actually older than you. That song was released in 1993, they pre-date reality TV.

14 Actually So I havent heard of them.

I shall go Youtube one of their videos to see if their any good at all, then i`ll take back what I said in my other post.

But I still dont think any band or singer can be Xmas #1 with X Factor 09 Being the most popular series.

[Iceman]

Who the **** is this band?


They`re pathetic little bastards if they think people are going to buy their retarded song over X Factor.
This years series has been the most popular, and will be #1 for weeks.

That band are full of Brain Dead Prats if they think people will actually support them.
I bet that band auditioned for X Factor but didnt get through the first round and they`re just pissed off at Simon and want to beat the show to Xmas #1


X factor will be Christmas #1 every year until the show ends for good.

Cant wait to see that bands reaction when they dont even make it into the Top 40 Countdown :joker:


:laugh2::laugh2::laugh2::laugh2::laugh2:

This is why i love numpties who dont do research and think they know all.....

[Matt]

But I still dont think any band or singer can be Xmas #1 with X Factor 09 Being the most popular series.

...or is it just because the band in question are American?

[Stu]

Those yanks never adopted to the Bebo platform with much enthusiasm. I think that's the problem here.

[Iceman]

http://bit.ly/inthename

I just gonna spam anywhere and everywhere with this, all my friends on FB just got an invite, sending to all my email contacts now, group has 60000 nearly! Not bad, not bad at all...

[Stu]

It was on Sky News awhile ago and the last 10,000 or so who have signed up have only done so in the last twenty four hours. And viral things like this typically get bigger as they go along.

[Stu]

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y237/kingofthering/n2228594104_3944.jpg

[setanta]

Who the **** is this band?


They`re pathetic little bastards if they think people are going to buy their retarded song over X Factor.
This years series has been the most popular, and will be #1 for weeks.

That band are full of Brain Dead Prats if they think people will actually support them.
I bet that band auditioned for X Factor but didnt get through the first round and they`re just pissed off at Simon and want to beat the show to Xmas #1


X factor will be Christmas #1 every year until the show ends for good.

Cant wait to see that bands reaction when they dont even make it into the Top 40 Countdown :joker:

I have to start avoiding your comments because I'm seriously in danger of dying from a laughing fit. Hysterical stuff.

[Iceman]

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y237/kingofthering/n2228594104_3944.jpg

It's amazing isn't it!

Im gonna make it my facebook picture!

[Iceman]

That group is growing at a rate of 3000 per hour, most major news outlets covering it now, song is only 67p. Betfair have it at 5th to get to number 1 so far......

[Shaun]

Best of luck to them [the campaigners and RATM I guess] - I won't buy it, but still. It'd be nice to have some variety.

[Smithy]

they did this last year trying to get leonard cohens version of hallelujah to no 1 instead of alexandra's
but it didnt work it failed even though it got to no 2

[Iceman]

I think even if it mad top 5 it would be good! Highly doubt it will make number 1....:(

[Niamh.]

I love that song would much prefer that to be No.1

[Stu]

89,279 members.

Holy mother.

[Iceman]

89,279 members.

Holy mother.

I was just about to post that, new pic is good aswell....rage against the xfactor!

[Enid]

An overrated song, not the best, but ANYTHING to decrease X Factor sales.

[Damaris]

RATHM-Gods.

Buy Julian Casbalncas's christmas single is amazing.(Lead singer of the strokes btw)

[Stu]

Bumpapalooza.

Shush. It's for the good of the universe.

[Harry!]

Update - 98,828 members now.

[Iceman]

Bumpapalooza.

Shush. It's for the good of the universe.

Nobody will disagree with bumoing this! Its for the good of music!:spin:

[Tom]

Its getting bigger and theres still another week to get even more members! The group wasn't started that long ago!!

It might actually be possible

[Enid]

And I thought I was the only X Factor hater, hehe. THERE IS A GOD!

[Harry!]

Im not a fan of the song but I hope it nocks of the XF

[Tom]

And I thought I was the only X Factor hater, hehe. THERE IS A GOD!

I like X Factor but I hate the dominance over the charts. To me its a TV show, nothing more. I hate it when sat with music channels at Christmas on and the Christmas number ones for the past 20 years are on ... then it hits 2005 and its song after song that sounds the same :bored:

[Stu]

Update - 98,828 members now.
Incredible! :shocked:

[Scarlett.]

Who the **** is this band?


They`re pathetic little bastards if they think people are going to buy their retarded song over X Factor.
This years series has been the most popular, and will be #1 for weeks.

That band are full of Brain Dead Prats if they think people will actually support them.
I bet that band auditioned for X Factor but didnt get through the first round and they`re just pissed off at Simon and want to beat the show to Xmas #1


X factor will be Christmas #1 every year until the show ends for good.

Cant wait to see that bands reaction when they dont even make it into the Top 40 Countdown :joker:

These two sentences belong together :lovedup:

[Stu]

:joker:

[Enid]

RATM applying for X Factor? Now that would be a laugh and a half.

[Iceman]

100,026 members

brilliant!

[Enid]

That's unreal. Too bad I don't have FB.

[Iceman]

That's unreal. Too bad I don't have FB.

basically its all just people saying **** You I wont Buy What You Sell Me!

also now they're celebrating 100000 members!

[Enid]

Sweet. I'll drink to that!

[Scarlett.]

I hope they get #1, X Factor is killing the music market, hell most of the #1's since this seires began have been related to the show

[Stephanie]

woa people are joining really fast.

[Novo]

I reckon about 5,000 people will actually download the song from the 100,000 that have joined

[Iceman]

woa people are joining really fast.

it's all well and good for people to join but will they buy the single???

[Stephanie]

there, i invited everyone on my facebook (410 people)

[Iceman]

there, i invited everyone on my facebook (410 people)

did you join yourself though???

[Stephanie]

did you join yourself though???
yeh

[MarkWaldorf]

I reckon about 5,000 people will actually download the song from the 100,000 that have joined

Agreed completely. People will join for the cause but will not bother buying the song.

[lily.]

This campaign = laughable.

The guy who's doing it attempted this last year with Rick Astley's "Never Gonna Give You Up". He clearly has too much time on his hands and feels like getting his 15 seconds of fame by playing the martyr for a pointless cause.

[Stu]

Plenty will still buy the song. Obviously it's daft to think that everyone will.

Even the people joining but not buying, at least they recognize the **** state of affairs we are in.

Gives me some hope for the world.

[Ross]

Never heard of them and I googled the name and they look fug.

[Stu]

This campaign = laughable.

The guy who's doing it attempted this last year with Rick Astley's "Never Gonna Give You Up". He clearly has too much time on his hands and feels like getting his 15 seconds of fame by playing the martyr for a pointless cause.
We care about the cause, not the guy behind it. I believe it is a pretty worthwhile cause myself.

[Iceman]

Plenty will still buy the song. Obviously it's daft to think that everyone will.

Even the people joining but not buying, at least they recognize the **** state of affairs we are in.

Gives me some hope for the world.

The fact that concert footage of them isnt allowed to be broadcast from when theyve reformed shows how much power they cammand!

Battle for The X Factor!!!!

[InOne]

Well done, **** X Factor

[Stu]

The fact that concert footage of them isnt allowed to be broadcast from when theyve reformed shows how much power they cammand!

Battle for The X Factor!!!!
Amen. It's a real feel good thing. A great track from a great band, and a worthwhile gesture towards Mr. Cowell and the state of pop music.

It's annoying that some people have nothing better to do but piss down on it.

[lily.]

We care about the cause, not the guy behind it. I believe it is a pretty worthwhile cause myself.

I don't.

I think it's a pile of shite to be honest. I don't care what gets to #1 at Christmas or any other week. I buy (or steal) the music I like and I don't give a **** what the chart says.

Also, what's the difference between the people who are buying into the whole XF single malarky and the people who are buying into the facebook malarky.. ? You're still essentially followers. I'm not a follower.

[MrGaryy]

Amen. It's a real feel good thing. A great track from a great band, and a worthwhile gesture towards Mr. Cowell and the state of pop music.

It's annoying that some people have nothing better to do but piss down on it.

Not as annoying as people who claim those who choose to be realistic and factual are 'pissing down on it.'

[MrGaryy]

I don't.

I think it's a pile of shite to be honest. I don't care what gets to #1 at Christmas or any other week. I buy (or steal) the music I like and I don't give a **** what the chart says.

Also, what's the difference between the people who are buying into the whole XF single malarky and the people who are buying into the facebook malarky.. ? You're still essentially followers. I'm not a follower.

yah um me and Linda will actually be purchasing Christina Aguilera - The Voice Within that week ktnx. xo

[Stu]

I don't.

I think it's a pile of shite to be honest. I don't care what gets to #1 at Christmas or any other week. I buy (or steal) the music I like and I don't give a **** what the chart says.

Also, what's the difference between the people who are buying into the whole XF single malarky and the people who are buying into the facebook malarky.. ? You're still essentially followers. I'm not a follower.
We don't care either. Me and Iceman are not going to be helping each other tie one another down to train tracks if the X-Factor get's to number one it's the gesture that counts. That and it's pretty tongue in cheek. Seeing Rage in the Xmas charts would be hilarious.

Not as annoying as people who claim those who choose to be realistic and factual are 'pissing down on it.'
Realistic and factual in what way? What's not realistic or factual about what we are doing? We don't expect Rage to get to number one for christ sake. It's just a bit of fun. And again ... the gesture.

Sorry if I don't personally enjoy one man who is not a performer having total control of the ****ing Xmas chart!

[Scarlett.]

Exactly what Stu said, its worth a go, like last years Hallelujah bid, we got it all the way to #2 ;) which is quite an achivement

[King Gizzard]

Don't let the bells end for Christmas no.1!

*searches for a facebook group..*

[King Gizzard]

Oh yeah - RATM = Incredible amazing brilliant band

[Stu]

Don't let the bells end for Christmas no.1!

*searches for a facebook group..*
Count me in! I will happily be a follower when it's a genuine tune and not a ****ing karaoke song!

And a Miley Cyrus one at that!

[Scarlett.]

They were before my time, but from the look of Schumacer's reply, I already know their music xD

[King Gizzard]

Why Killing in the name of though? Its one of my least favourite songs by them

Sleep Now in the Fire, Guerilla Radio, Microphone Fiend, much better!

[Stu]

They were before my time, but from the look of Schumacer's reply, I already know their music xD
Good music is timeless! :blush:

Why Killing in the name of though? Its one of my least favourite songs by them

Sleep Now in the Fire, Guerilla Radio, Microphone Fiend, much better!
I am guessing it is for the ''**** you I won't do what you tell me'' lyric.

My personal favorite is Wake Up.




Movements come and movements go
Leaders speak, movements cease
When their heads are flown
'Cause all these punks got bullets in their heads
Departments of police (What?)
The judges (What?) the Feds (The Feds)

Networks at work keepin people calm
You know they went after King
When he spoke out on Vietnam
He turned the power to the Have-Nots
And then came the shot



I know it's not Party In The USA but whatever!

[King Gizzard]

Invited about 50 of my friends on facebook ahha

[Iceman]

http://www.ragefactor.co.uk/

[Harry!]

Another update - 120,269 members

[Stu]

Anyone known the sales figure difference between the #1 and #2 last year?

[KKBL]

at Christmas its about 400k.

[Wildcat!]

Haha!! This is gonna be a big fat fail1 :laugh:
Xfator got you by thhe balls!

And Stu, wasnt it an attempt last year to beat the Xfactor song, by voting for the original, or the older version of Halleluyah! Oh the irony! :)

[Stu]

Haha!! This is gonna be a big fat fail1 :laugh:
Xfator got you by thhe balls!

And Stu, wasnt it an attempt last year to beat the Xfactor song, by voting for the original, or the older version of Halleluyah! Oh the irony! :)
Got to #2 though. Pretty impressive for a viral campaign!!! :blush:

[Iceman]

nearly at 140000

[Stephanie]

145,028 members

[Vladimir]

LOL!

Gotta make it happen.

[Tom]

basically its all just people saying **** You I wont Buy What You Sell Me!

... yet they'll buy this song because someone told them to

[Stu]

... yet they'll buy this song because someone told them to
Oh come on, that's a cheap cop out. It's a monopolized singles market spearheaded by a multi millionaire who has access to a dizzying amount of advertising platforms versus a viral internet movement.

We all just happen to be buying the one song because it makes sense. It's a collective gesture. That's the idea. I imagine our success would be severely hampered if we all bought a different single, wouldn't you?

[Tom]

Oh come on, that's a cheap cop out. It's a monopolized singles market spearheaded by a multi millionaire who has access to a dizzying amount of advertising platforms versus a viral internet movement.

don't get me wrong, I am supporting it even though its a rubbish song, but the tag line for the campaign is kind of ironic

[King Gizzard]

Kerrang and various other organisations have gotten behind the campaign now

[lily.]

Pseudo Rebellion.

[Harry!]

177,271 members now.

[Stu]

Pseudo Rebellion.
Your the one taking it that seriously, not us :hugesmile:.

[Iceman]

185000

[Iceman]

nearly at 200000 members!

[Stu]

Bumpacrackabumpa.

[Iceman]

over 210000 members now.....plus media attention is growing!

[30stone]

But I'd rather people campaigned with something Christmassy!! Like Fairytale of New York! Start a campaign for that :)

Same.

I would prefer x factor getting it to some rage against the machine song ( they wont get number one anyway )

But if they chose an actual christmas song, or brought a new one out i would hope that got it.

[MarkWaldorf]

Yeah it pretty much defeats the purpose of the cause if they're trying to stop X Factor getting the christmas number one.

[Stu]

Not really, considering it's a protest and they are using one of the most well known protest songs of the 21st century. It's not a Christmas song, sure, but it's not a Christmas song they are protesting against anyway.

I think this is more going against Cowell's monopoly than actually the notion of what a Christmas song should be. I doubt they would have protested Girls Aloud 7 years ago.

[Iceman]

The whole point behind Killing In The Name is to protest and defy whats been put upon you...i dont think you could get a better song (Except the pogues)

[Tom]

Heh, another hilarious point about this. RATM are signed to Epic Records, a subsidiary of Sony. Simon Cowell's label is SyCo, a subsidiary of Sony. So the money is going to end up in the same place :joker:

[Harry!]

295,802 members now :shocked:

[Iceman]

Heh, another hilarious point about this. RATM are signed to Epic Records, a subsidiary of Sony. Simon Cowell's label is SyCo, a subsidiary of Sony. So the money is going to end up in the same place :joker:

I think it's more of the point of stopping XF getting to number 1........second favourite with bookies now and theres still a week left to do it...:):devil:

[Tom]

I think it's more of the point of stopping XF getting to number 1........second favourite with bookies now and theres still a week left to do it...:):devil:

Then wouldn't they be better firstly

a) picking a song that isn't with the same label
b) picking a song that doesn't contradict the whole point of the campaign
c) picking a christmas song

[Iceman]

Then wouldn't they be better firstly

a) picking a song that isn't with the same label
b) picking a song that doesn't contradict the whole point of the campaign
c) picking a christmas song

a) its a subsidary yes, its not for syco, he doesnt own sony so he personally wont benefit.
b) the whole point in using this song is to contradict itself.
c) I agree with that, would have preferred the pogues.

[Iceman]

300,000 members

[Chels]

If Joe wins then I want the winner to get #1 <3
if it's Stacey or Olly then I hope the dudes doing the petition get it.

[Twilight]

If Joe wins then I want the winner to get #1 <3
if it's Stacey or Olly then I hope the dudes doing the petition get it.

I think the same:P

[Stu]

Then wouldn't they be better firstly

a) picking a song that isn't with the same label
b) picking a song that doesn't contradict the whole point of the campaign
c) picking a christmas song
A) Sony is not owned by Simon Cowell. Simon Cowell will not be getting any money from this.
B) As I have pointed out, it's a viral internet group versus a veritable musical empire. Stop making it out as if we are all being brainwashed to buy RATM.
C) Like the X-Factor?

[Tom]

A) Sony is not owned by Simon Cowell. Simon Cowell will not be getting any money from this.
B) As I have pointed out, it's a viral internet group versus a veritable musical empire. Stop making it out as if we are all being brainwashed to buy RATM.
C) Like the X-Factor?

a) But Sony will. Sony benefit the most from X Factor winner, not Simon, so those who download it will be lining pretty much the same pockets.
b) Noone is brainwashed into buying the XF single, but the strapline to the campaign is "****** YOU, I won't buy you what you sell me" yet they'll download a song because someone has told them to
c) Well the whole point is to stop X Factor getting a christmas number 1, apparently because christmas songs aren't getting it any more

The whole thing would have been better using a well known song that pretty much everyone likes, then it has wider appeal. Rage Against The Machine is a random song choice, as though someone was flicking through music channels one day, seen it and thought "we'll use that one".

[Stu]

a) But Sony will. Sony benefit the most from X Factor winner, not Simon, so those who download it will be lining pretty much the same pockets.
b) Noone is brainwashed into buying the XF single, but the strapline to the campaign is "****** YOU, I won't buy you what you sell me" yet they'll download a song because someone has told them to
c) Well the whole point is to stop X Factor getting a christmas number 1, apparently because christmas songs aren't getting it any more

The whole thing would have been better using a well known song that pretty much everyone likes, then it has wider appeal. Rage Against The Machine is a random song choice, as though someone was flicking through music channels one day, seen it and thought "we'll use that one".
It's not a random song choice, it's one of the most well known protest song's of all time. I know a lot of people who watch the X-Factor might not have heard of Rage Against The Machine as opposed to true giants like, say, Aqua, but it is certainly far from random.

And again, it's not protesting the theme of Christmas song's, it's protesting The X-Factor and Simon's monopoly on Christmas songs. Nobody is talking about subject matter here. Nobody was protesting Girl's Aloud or Robbie Williams. Heck, John Lennon never wrote a Christmas song, it was a song about peace twisted to fit the theme of Christmas. Very few Christmas song's are actually genuinely about Christmas like for instance Rocking Around The Christmas Tree.

As for the money going to Sony and us buying the singles because we are told to?, well that's such a cop out really. It's just such a deliberately negative way to look at things. Do you think this campaign would have the same effect if we all each bought an individual single instead of rallying the troops to buy the one single? Do you want us to buy a single that was somehow released and put in store shelves by ghosts in the night so that the profits would not be going back to any corporate body?

This isn't about Sony or Christmas or anything. It's solely about Simon and Simon's show having a creative stranglehold on the Christmas #1 and taking all the variety and suspense out of it. Every. ****ing. Year.

It's boring.

[King Gizzard]

424,000 members and counting

thats 124,000 members since yesterday

[King Gizzard]

Its grown just about 2,000 people in 10 minutes

[Stephanie]

UPDATE

it's been 6 hours and 43 mins and it is #15 on itunes.

[Stephanie]

#14

[Iceman]

over 700000 members!

[Tom]

It isn't even in the iTunes top 100 :(

[Iceman]

It isn't even in the iTunes top 100 :(

dont worry it will be, it peaked at some mad spot and they all got very angry in that group cause people were buying it.....It would be amazing if it beat that crap to number 1!

[Stephanie]

it's number 1 on itunes :)

[Callum]

Has been 1 on iTunes all day and has a big lead of Gaga who's at 2.

[lily.]

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Oh no, wait a minute random person on facebook who I don't know.. I will do exactly what you tell me.. I'll download RATM...






Baaaaa!

[Niamh.]

The Climb isn't a Christmas song either BTW

[Jords]

Joe's at no.1 now, ooo

[MarkWaldorf]

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[Stu]

Congratulations, you have shocked us all.

[Niamh.]

I'm torn, it is annoying that no other artist gets a look in for Christmas No.1 anymore but then I do feel a bit sorry for Joe at the same time!

[Stu]

The guy has an entire team behind him, who are probably in a locked boardroom planning his imminent takeover of the charts as we speak.

I'm not feeling sorry for him just yet.

[Wildcat!]

I'm torn, it is annoying that no other artist gets a look in for Christmas No.1 anymore but then I do feel a bit sorry for Joe at the same time!

There is nothing to it. Joe will be #1, just like other years, because the people love the show, and buy the single, not because they are forced to. It is waht it is, and I dont see the problem. If the single came out in june, it would be #1 as well. It just happens to come out around Christmas every year.

[bauble]

Good on them, hope it gets somewhere! :thumbs:

it'll get them somewhere alright... that place is called #2 :dance:

[Z]

There is nothing to it. Joe will be #1, just like other years, because the people love the show, and buy the single, not because they are forced to. It is waht it is, and I dont see the problem. If the single came out in june, it would be #1 as well. It just happens to come out around Christmas every year.

Yeah but I think it's more about the offensive aspect that Simon Cowell has the monopoly on the Christmas number one, which traditionally has a Christmassy theme, it's a bit sadistic to me that we could have ANY winner releasing ANY song and it'd still shoot straight to number one, regardless of any effort to get another song to number one.

[Beastie]

I like Joe but I don't want him to get Christmas number one, mainly due to the fact that I think it is about time we pissed on Simon Cowell's parade.

[Beastie]

However it is inevitable that Joe is going to reach Christmas number one.

[InOne]

Yep, just shows the awful state of music today, plus the mentality of our society.

[Shaun]

I just wish it wasn't this RATM song - I get it's a protest song, but was Bob Dylan's "Blowin' In The Wind" out of stock or something? Why not something festive?

[Z]

I just wish it wasn't this RATM song - I get it's a protest song, but was Bob Dylan's "Blowin' In The Wind" out of stock or something? Why not something festive?

It's not like we don't have many options. Mariah Carey and The Pogues ALWAYS re-enter for Christmas, and those are just two that I've noticed, there are plenty of other Christmas songs that people buy year in, year out, yet somebody chose RATM and other people jumped on the bandwagon because of the message - it's no better than having the X Factor as number 1 in the grand scheme of things. I would like to hear a Christmas number 1 that is about Christmas, hell even if an X Factor winner recorded a Christmas themed song, I'd be happy with that.

[Jords]

It's not like we don't have many options. Mariah Carey and The Pogues ALWAYS re-enter for Christmas, and those are just two that I've noticed, there are plenty of other Christmas songs that people buy year in, year out, yet somebody chose RATM and other people jumped on the bandwagon because of the message - it's no better than having the X Factor as number 1 in the grand scheme of things. I would like to hear a Christmas number 1 that is about Christmas, hell even if an X Factor winner recorded a Christmas themed song, I'd be happy with that.

Agreed Greg :thumbs:

People enjoy the show then moan about the winner being no.1, personally I dont mind, but if your gonna try compete against the XF, at least chose something which will appeal to more people. Any Xmas song would be good, this RATM is awful.

Ive downloaded The Pogues again :D

[lily.]

I fail to see why people care what's at #1 for one week of the year. So it's Christmas.. so what?

[Tom]

I just wish it wasn't this RATM song - I get it's a protest song, but was Bob Dylan's "Blowin' In The Wind" out of stock or something? Why not something festive?

I reckon if it was The Pogues this campaign would be even bigger

Similar kind of style of music (ish, well you can see what I'm getting at it will appeal to the same people) plus has broader appeal, and is a Christmas song

[Niamh.]

I reckon if it was The Pogues this campaign would be even bigger

Similar kind of style of music (ish, well you can see what I'm getting at it will appeal to the same people) plus has broader appeal, and is a Christmas song

That was already used to try and stop Leon reaching number 1, I believe?

[30stone]

I just wish it wasn't this RATM song - I get it's a protest song, but was Bob Dylan's "Blowin' In The Wind" out of stock or something? Why not something festive?

Thats how i feel.

Also seems ratm are just doing this to boost their own sales around christmas really..

[Niamh.]

Thats how i feel.

Also seems ratm are just doing this to boost their own sales around christmas really..

RATM have nothing to do with it

[GhettoSuperstar]

Midweek:

RATM #1 (83,000 copies sold)
JOE #2 (77,000 copies sold)

This won't stay the same though. The campaign will die down and Joe will remain steady throughout the week. AND his physical release is out on Wednesday.

[Wildcat!]

RATM have nothing to do with it

Do you know that, for a fact? :conf:
:D
Because, if you ask me, its a genious idea!!!
after how Heleluyah was able to be #2 last year, because of the anti xfactor campaign.
Seriously, if I was in the music, industry, I would get in on that. I have no doubt, someone will use the idea, or already has if I can think about it. , I really dont know for sure. :)

[danda012]

The problem with X Factor (and Pop Idol and shows before it) is it sorta ruins the whole Christmas no#1 thing. Only 1 X Factor winner has failed to get Christmas number 1 (Steve Brookstein who was only beaten by Band Aid). The problem with the whole thing is it makes the Christmas number 1 very predictable and boring.

Nowadays, every year from 2005 the winner of X Factor has went to number 1 instantly. It just feels sorta boring KNOWING every year that whoever wins X Factor is pretty much guarenteed number 1 at Christmas time. Good luck to RATM and i hope they do well but i think even this campaign won't be enough to stop Joe's inevitable number 1 this year.


Oh and one thing to add at end is.. it wouldn't suprise me if RATM were actually involved in this. They in the past on several occasions were known for writing protest songs and being against certain parts of society in America. Whether they would be willing to fight against the music industry and reality TV is uncertain but doesn't sound unlike them.

[Twilight]

This Campaign is stupid. The song is about not doing what your told to, so were gonna do what some guy on facebook told us to do.

[lily.]

This Campaign is stupid. The song is about not doing what your told to, so were gonna do what some guy on facebook told us to do.


I think I covered that point with this post. :thumbs:

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Oh no, wait a minute random person on facebook who I don't know.. I will do exactly what you tell me.. I'll download RATM...






Baaaaa!

[Twilight]

I think I covered that point with this post. :thumbs:

LOL yeah i didn't see that:P

[InOne]

I can safely say I won't be downloading either lol

[lily.]

I already bought the Joe CD for ma kid.

[Wildcat!]

I already bought the Joe CD for ma kid.

Aww!! Thats sweet!:hugesmile: (No sarcasme!)
:o

[Niamh.]

Do you know that, for a fact? :conf:
:D
Because, if you ask me, its a genious idea!!!
after how Heleluyah was able to be #2 last year, because of the anti xfactor campaign.
Seriously, if I was in the music, industry, I would get in on that. I have no doubt, someone will use the idea, or already has if I can think about it. , I really dont know for sure. :)

Well according to this article, the band are not even together anymore and have not commented on the campaign, so it would seem they are not involved but who actually knows anything for "a fact" in these kind of situations??
http://www.stereoboard.com/content/view/96814/9/

I think it's just more likely that who ever started this protest thought that the song was a fitting protest song.

And yeah, It's a great idea to earn a few pounds if you were in the music industry lol

[Niamh.]

I already bought the Joe CD for ma kid.

It was for yourself, don't lie!!! lol:joker:

[lily.]

Wildcat is a born cynic lol

Seriously though, he does have a point. I don't know if RATM are involved at all but anything is possible.

[Niamh.]

I can safely say I won't be downloading either lol

lol, me neither!

[lily.]

It was for yourself, don't lie!!! lol:joker:

haha. I don't buy music, I steal it.. :P

[InOne]

lol, me neither!

Good!!! lol

[Niamh.]

haha. I don't buy music, I steal it.. :P

hehehehehe

[Wildcat!]

Well according to this article, the band are not even together anymore and have not commented on the campaign, so it would seem they are not involved but who actually knows anything for "a fact" in these kind of situations??
http://www.stereoboard.com/content/view/96814/9/

I think it's just more likely that who ever started this protest thought that the song was a fitting protest song.

And yeah, It's a great idea to earn a few pounds if you were in the music industry lol


Fair enough!! And your point, could be exactly the whole truth. But you never know.

[Twilight]

My sister has just Pre-ordered 5 copys of The Climb

[InOne]

My sister has just Pre-ordered 5 copys of The Climb

Give her a slap.

[Niamh.]

Fair enough!! And your point, could be exactly the whole truth. But you never know.

No of course we don't but If we did we'd have nothing to argue about lol

[James]

Multiple downloads don't count to the chart position... :-)

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/4802804.stm

[lily.]

That's from 2006 James.. does it still stand?

[danda012]

That's from 2006 James.. does it still stand?

I believe that was when the rule was first enforced so probably.

[James]

I guess it does. I read that it was alledged for last year's anti-X Factor campaign Jeff Buckley sold a lot more than was credited but they discounted the multiple sales.

[lily.]

If that's the case, they'll discount the multiple DLs of RATM too.

I still don't think it has a snowball's chance in hell to be honest.

[MarkWaldorf]

Gifting music still counts though!

[Tom]

Wildcat is a born cynic lol

Seriously though, he does have a point. I don't know if RATM are involved at all but anything is possible.

I think at least Sony are involved. I don't think its a coincidence that the two records which will sell the most this week are both from Sony.

and it isn't even in the iTunes top 100

[danda012]

****** this stupid campaign

I'd rather see this song get to number one than ANOTHER X Factor xmas number 1. Besides it adds a possible bit of drama to this year's race since this year a competitor has a CHANCE v the X Factor winner which hasn't happened since Band Aid 20.

[James]

From Twitter :D Made me smile... a bit...


RT @rhodri: lets stop Modern Warfare 2 topping the games chart this Xmas, and all buy a copy of Chuckie Egg for Commodore 64

[Scarlett.]

From Twitter :D Made me smile... a bit...

Lol :hugesmile:

[lily.]

From Twitter :D Made me smile... a bit...

-used to have a Commodore 64-

[Stephanie]

apparently ratm has sold over 65,000 more copies than joe

[lily.]

News Just In:

Joe sold 8,000 in hmv South Shields alone today.

[lily.]

MrMrMr.. are you on a moral crusade? Your signature is quite angersome..

[InOne]

Nah he is just a cunting troll using proxies or he has only been given a 24hr ****ing ban

[Stephanie]

ratm are going to be live on bbc 5 radio at 8:50 am

[Stu]

yo yo yo

[Stacey.]

:bored:
we :love: You Joe

[Stephanie]

omfg i'm so happy :D

[Iceman]

:)

[Scarlett.]

HAHAHAHHAHAHHAAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHAHHA

good on RATM