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Tom
04-12-2009, 05:49 PM
All in the title

Will he flop within a year of releasing his first actual single (forgetting the winners one)?

Will he go on to achieve fair success, few top 10s, lasting a couple of years etc?

Will he go to America and become an international superstar?

This is purely on recording, not any other career paths (e.g. theatre, ending up on Dancing on Ice etc)

alc09
04-12-2009, 05:52 PM
All the final 4 will flop, who ever wins.

teabag.
04-12-2009, 05:54 PM
flop, mainly because what kind of song will he bring out? his voice doesnt anything bar musical theatre

Captain.Remy
04-12-2009, 06:02 PM
He will end up like Leon...nowhere.

Stacey.
04-12-2009, 06:03 PM
he WILL have some success.
Simon and Cheryl will make sure of it /.

Beastie
04-12-2009, 06:04 PM
I think he will have a bit of success! I love his voice, it probs is a bit musical theatre but it is one of the best voices in this year's x factor! He is better than Shayne Ward and Shayne's 3rd albulm is out next year.. to be honest I prefer him to Leona and Alexandra! I do think Joe needs to win the x factor though, without the winning title of the x factor, he will probably flop! Eventhough I dont mind if Olly or Stacey wins. I think maybe Joe should win and Olly and Stacey should make some babies? lol

Beastie
04-12-2009, 06:06 PM
I prefer Joe to Leona and Alexandra because Joe is more unique. I have never heard anyone with a voice like Joe's before! Good luck to him!

Stacey.
04-12-2009, 06:06 PM
but..., danyl ftw :D

Smithy
04-12-2009, 06:06 PM
he'l be like leon and steve

Alf
04-12-2009, 06:07 PM
the music world is not only catered for 6 to 16 year olds, believe it or not but there's an huge audience that appreciate a talanted singer.

for 18 years old i think he's pretty good and goes about his business in a professional manner, and because he's prepered to listen and learn instead of acting the big i am, he's improving with every performance.

Beastie
04-12-2009, 06:12 PM
the music world is not only catered for 6 to 16 year olds, believe it or not but there's an huge audience that appreciate a talanted singer.

for 18 years old i think he's pretty good and goes about his business in a professional manner, and because he's prepered to listen and learn instead of acting the big i am, he's improving with every performance.

This!

Yes he has a lovely personality! Joe is very refreshing. He is no average Joe ya know!

Novo
04-12-2009, 06:13 PM
Flop straight away

Princess
04-12-2009, 06:13 PM
He'll be successful but he won't be like Leona,but that's pretty much impossible. He probably will end up in the West End,but that ain't a bad thing!

Tom
04-12-2009, 06:14 PM
the music world is not only catered for 6 to 16 year olds, believe it or not but there's an huge audience that appreciate a talanted singer.

for 18 years old i think he's pretty good and goes about his business in a professional manner, and because he's prepered to listen and learn instead of acting the big i am, he's improving with every performance.

That doesn't mean he'll be successful though. Leon fits the description the same way Joe does.

King Gizzard
04-12-2009, 06:18 PM
Flop straight away

Deffinetly

So would stacey

Jords
04-12-2009, 06:48 PM
Flop straight away

Deffinetly

So would stacey

Stacey will have the most success hopefully,
she has the personality, people will die for her to be on their interview show.
Yeah she might not be a Leona or Alex, but why compare her to them?
There are other artists out there, Simon needs to be told this.

I can see Stace and Danyl having success, and after a while,
think Miss Frank might have a break through too.

Olly will flop if he won, and Joe probs should go into musicals.

King Gizzard
04-12-2009, 06:51 PM
Olly has the best chance out of all of them

Releasing something in the mixture of Will young and Robbie Williams

Smithy
04-12-2009, 06:52 PM
Stacey will have the most success hopefully,
she has the personality, people will die for her to be on their interview show.
Yeah she might not be a Leona or Alex, but why compare her to them?
There are other artists out there, Simon needs to be told this.

I can see Stace and Danyl having success, and after a while,
think Miss Frank might have a break through too.

Olly will flop if he won, and Joe probs should go into musicals.

Stacey would deffo have the most success due to her personality and amazing voice


olly would flop due to the fact his performances are all visual, if you buy a single or album there aint gonna be any of the gimmicks/dodgey dancing just his voice (which aint that great)

Jords
04-12-2009, 06:54 PM
But, its almost cert Joe will win, his youtube views are sky high this week compared to the rest. Surprised really, his Take That preformance was not really awesome awesome, but still, hugely viewed, even compared to Stacey who gave the best TT preformance!
His George Michael preformance I can see why though.

Beastie
04-12-2009, 06:54 PM
That doesn't mean he'll be successful though. Leon fits the description the same way Joe does.

Joe works harder than Leon! Leon did not even care. Apparently he did not perform at a gig because he had a "cold". Leon was lazy and put little effort into his performances. Leon always had a face like a slapped arse. Joe is a hard working friendly happy geordie!

MiuMiu
04-12-2009, 06:54 PM
All the final 4 will flop, who ever wins.

Exactly what I had planned on saying here!
;)

Smithy
04-12-2009, 06:56 PM
But, its almost cert Joe will win, his youtube views are sky high this week compared to the rest. Surprised really, his Take That preformance was not really awesome awesome, but still, hugely viewed, even compared to Stacey who gave the best TT preformance!
His George Michael preformance I can see why though.

i dont think so if u look at some previous series of reality show the bookies favorite doesnt always win
i.e.
subo
samanda
rhydian
etc

MarkWaldorf
04-12-2009, 07:05 PM
That doesn't mean he'll be successful though. Leon fits the description the same way Joe does.

I don't agree. Leon basically floated throughout the entire series - was never praised by the judges and was just average each week. Joe has proven himself to be hugely talented and on some occasions has given some of the best performances of the series/night. Leon one night discovered a swing sound, something which isn't really relevant whilst Joe has taken on a variety of songs and proven he can do anything. Without actually hearing material by Joe I don't think you can call him a 'Leon mould.'

I was thinking lately Joe could have some excellent material if people like Gary Barlow were to get behind him. If Take That were on the XF you wouldn't really believe they were relevant enough to launch a pop career but they're one of the most successful British acts out there right now. I think they've proven that you don't need to be RnB or what ever to score hit singles. If you're talented enough people recognise that.

Alf
04-12-2009, 07:06 PM
Olly has the best chance out of all of them

Releasing something in the mixture of Will young and Robbie Williams
but we've already got robbie williams and will young, why do we need another
joe mcelderry is a mixture of joe mcelderry, he's no tribute act

Shaun
04-12-2009, 07:07 PM
He'll have a decent album - better than Shayne/Leon anyway - and probably fizzle...I can't see a second album Echo style.

CaraRawr
04-12-2009, 07:11 PM
he won't flop. he's one of the few acts simon believes will do well, so simon'll make sure he gets big.

Novo
04-12-2009, 07:14 PM
^

Simon doesn't care

Tom
04-12-2009, 07:19 PM
I don't agree. Leon basically floated throughout the entire series - was never praised by the judges and was just average each week. Joe has proven himself to be hugely talented and on some occasions has given some of the best performances of the series/night. Leon one night discovered a swing sound, something which isn't really relevant whilst Joe has taken on a variety of songs and proven he can do anything. Without actually hearing material by Joe I don't think you can call him a 'Leon mould.'

I was thinking lately Joe could have some excellent material if people like Gary Barlow were to get behind him. If Take That were on the XF you wouldn't really believe they were relevant enough to launch a pop career but they're one of the most successful British acts out there right now. I think they've proven that you don't need to be RnB or what ever to score hit singles. If you're talented enough people recognise that.

Perhaps you should read my post a bit more carefully. My point about Leon/Joe comparison was that "he's pretty good and goes about his business in a professional manner, and because he's prepered to listen and learn instead of acting the big i am, he's improving with every performance" also fits Leon as well as Joe. Leon was shocking at first, took advice and grew and grew with every performance.

If you're talented, people don't necessarily see that either, hence Laura White's single flopped. You don't have to be talented to forge a successful career, and having talent doesn't mean you'll get one. I'm not denying he can sing, but imo he doesn't have a recording voice and he won't last. IMO he sounds the worst out of the lot on the charity single and completely ruins it.

Also just because he has sung a variety of songs also doesn't mean he is relevant. Versatility is irrelevant, its just something brainwashed to us on X Factor. Recording artists stick to their strengths. In turn that means Danyl, Olly and Stacey have largely stuck to their strengths during the live shows. Joe can do anything, but his performances to me seem very empty. He is just singing them and puts nothing into them. If a singer doesn't really 'feel' a song then it just doesn't work, and Joe is just a good karaoke singer. I don't think he has done performance of the week at all.

Jordan.
04-12-2009, 09:54 PM
Some Success then disappear after a couple of years

MrGaryy
04-12-2009, 11:23 PM
He'll have a number 1 single obviously, and maybe a Top 10[?] album but the ugly truth is he has no artist potential, there's no market for him and eventually he'll disappear. He'll have a good first year, a decent second year and perhaps make it to three years with the third year being VERY dried up.

Beastie
04-12-2009, 11:25 PM
^

Simon doesn't care

Simon and Cheryl will have a quick shag with each other.

Patrick
04-12-2009, 11:30 PM
He will be like Leon and no one will care what happened to him atfer the show ends.
Looks arent everything!

Its like when a Girl is on BB and all the lads love her and then she leaves and we are gutted for the rest of that Friday Night and then we forget all about her..until of course shes on Nuts magazine within a few days.

But with X Factor winners who are only liked because of their looks...They arent on Nuts :)

Joe is ****ed, hes boring and all their is to him is that stupid Smile he does and then he says "Yeah...." Thats it.

Who wants to listen to that on Interviews and stuff?

His music will be boring aswell, Only Old Ladies will listen to his stuff and even at that they`ll get bored of it too.

He`ll be dropped by his Record Label just like Leon.


Olly wont flop if he won, because their is MORE to him than singing boring songs.
But he wont win.

Stacey has a shot at winning, and she wont flop at least if she wins your vote will be well worth it because well be seeing alot of her and shes a nice girl.

Vote for Joe and your wasting your money, I know Girls that have voted 40 times every weekend for Joe.

Their Pathetic and are going to end up Hobos if they keep voting that much.

Alf
05-12-2009, 02:24 AM
He will be like Leon and no one will care what happened to him atfer the show ends.
Looks arent everything!

Its like when a Girl is on BB and all the lads love her and then she leaves and we are gutted for the rest of that Friday Night and then we forget all about her..until of course shes on Nuts magazine within a few days.

But with X Factor winners who are only liked because of their looks...They arent on Nuts :)

Joe is ****ed, hes boring and all their is to him is that stupid Smile he does and then he says "Yeah...." Thats it.

Who wants to listen to that on Interviews and stuff?

His music will be boring aswell, Only Old Ladies will listen to his stuff and even at that they`ll get bored of it too.

He`ll be dropped by his Record Label just like Leon.


Olly wont flop if he won, because their is MORE to him than singing boring songs.
But he wont win.

Stacey has a shot at winning, and she wont flop at least if she wins your vote will be well worth it because well be seeing alot of her and shes a nice girl.

Vote for Joe and your wasting your money, I know Girls that have voted 40 times every weekend for Joe.

Their Pathetic and are going to end up Hobos if they keep voting that much.
who are you?
nostradamus?

setanta
05-12-2009, 02:26 AM
I'd say he'll flop but sure who else outta them is capable of sustaining a chart career? When all the hype is gone the reality is that they're all fairly mediocre.