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Here is the situation. There is a big fat red button right in the centre of a small room you are standing in. You know that if you press this button you will net yourself £1,000,000. You can press this button as many times as you like, each giving you the same amount of cash, but in doing so there is 1/10,000 chance one of your closest relatives or partner will die every time you press it.
Do you take the risk and press the button? If so, how many times? Or if not, what if the situation was different and only people who you didn't know could die instead?
Think about the situation carefully before answering please. :)
setanta
11-12-2009, 02:36 PM
You twisted little puppy. Ha ha.
You twisted little puppy. Ha ha.
Answer the god damn questions!
NettoSuperstar!
11-12-2009, 02:39 PM
no
InOne
11-12-2009, 02:42 PM
Probably yeah. I'm an awful person and don't really have emotional attachments to people.
Niamh.
11-12-2009, 02:44 PM
No, I wouldn't be able to live with the guilt lol
I wouldn't push the button if I knew one of my family members or partner would die, absolutely not. But I'd push it till I was a bazillionaire, if I knew only random people would die. I'd be too busy drinking champaign to feel any guilt.
Niamh.
11-12-2009, 02:48 PM
I wouldn't push the button if I knew one of my family members or partner would die, absolutely not. But I'd push it till I was a bazillionaire, if I knew only random people would die. I'd be too busy drinking campaign to feel any guilt.
:laugh2:
setanta
11-12-2009, 02:50 PM
I couldn't do it, no.
Niamh.
11-12-2009, 02:52 PM
I'd do it if I could pick the people who would die lol
Stephanie
11-12-2009, 02:53 PM
i would push it once.
i would push it once.
Would you not be tempted to push it again though?
No I wouldn't push it at all. Money isn't everything...
Stephanie
11-12-2009, 03:04 PM
Would you not be tempted to push it again though?
i'm not sure, maybe.
Captain.Remy
11-12-2009, 03:11 PM
Oscar Wilde once said: 'The best way to get rid of a temptation is to yield to it' so I'd definitely push it once. So I'd get a million. But what can you do with a million today ? Not much anylonger.
And after all, it's only a 1/10,000 chance so I could push it plenty if times before someone I love dies.
And to people who say money isn't everything, go and tell that to a blue collar worker who kills his ass off to earn barely £1000 per month. You'll see what he tells you.
To me, money is everything. It might not buy love, yet you feel much better when you have money OR if money doesn't buy happiness, then give it to me, I want to be unhappy. :wink:
^ Money does buy happiness, thats a load of bollocks those who say it doesn't. It buys peace of mind, which in turn makes you happy.
Wildcat!
11-12-2009, 03:15 PM
I didnt read any of the other answers, so going with gut instinct. Given the situation, I would press it once.
There is no way I am greedy enough to want more than a million. BUt for the first million, I think I would do it, given those odds. :o
YOu have to understand, those are really, really small odds!!!
But I just wouldnt take any chance after Ive already got a million.
Oscar Wilde once said: 'The best way to get rid of a temptation is to yield to it' so I'd definitely push it once. So I'd get a million. But what can you do with a million today ? Not much anylonger.
And after all, it's only a 1/10,000 chance so I could push it plenty if times before someone I love dies.
And to people who say money isn't everything, go and tell that to a blue collar worker who kills his ass off to earn barely £1000 per month. You'll see what he tells you.
To me, money is everything. It might not buy love, yet you feel much better when you have money OR if money doesn't buy happiness, then give it to me, I want to be unhappy. :wink:
I agree Remy. Money is very important and I believe it does buy happiness or at least it rids of a lot of worry and problems we face today. I think many people would be tempted to push this button more than once. We are greedy after all.
Captain.Remy
11-12-2009, 03:16 PM
^ Money does buy happiness, thats a load of bollocks those who say it doesn't. It buys peace of mind, which in turn makes you happy.
The truth. :thumbs:
I'm quite happy with the situation my parents are in, they both are great jobs, I was never in need of anything so people who think I'd have been more happy with less money are definitely wrong.
setanta
11-12-2009, 03:18 PM
Oscar Wilde once said: 'The best way to get rid of a temptation is to yield to it' so I'd definitely push it once. So I'd get a million. But what can you do with a million today ? Not much anylonger.
And after all, it's only a 1/10,000 chance so I could push it plenty if times before someone I love dies.
And to people who say money isn't everything, go and tell that to a blue collar worker who kills his ass off to earn barely £1000 per month. You'll see what he tells you.
To me, money is everything. It might not buy love, yet you feel much better when you have money OR if money doesn't buy happiness, then give it to me, I want to be unhappy. :wink:
It buys you comfort maybe, but not if there's no peace of mind there to begin with. You'd be surprised at how many grumpy or dissatisfied people who end up winning money fall back into the habit of being grumpy or depressed.
Captain.Remy
11-12-2009, 03:23 PM
It buys you comfort maybe, but not if there's no peace of mind there to begin with. You'd be surprised at how many grumpy or dissatisfied people who end up winning money fall back into the habit of being grumpy or depressed.
So do sports man, celebrities etc...but it's only because they couldn't manage all of this. A lot of people are VERY VERY rich yet you don't hear from them as they don't expose themselves and they live quite happily.
What you need is a good financial adviser (I can give you my Dad's phone number if you want lol), some lost beach in Oceania, a nice girlfriend and that's it.
People need to stop thinking life is like a romantic movie. Life is a porn film.
Twilight
11-12-2009, 03:30 PM
No i love my family to much<3 But if it was gonna people i haven't met that died then yes alot till i got something:P
Crimson Dynamo
11-12-2009, 03:40 PM
Here is the situation. There is a big fat red button right in the centre of a small room you are standing in. You know that if you press this button you will net yourself £1,000,000. You can press this button as many times as you like, each giving you the same amount of cash, but in doing so there is 1/10,000 chance one of your closest relatives or partner will die every time you press it.
Do you take the risk and press the button? If so, how many times? Or if not, what if the situation was different and only people who you didn't know could die instead?
Think about the situation carefully before answering please. :)
no
no money is worth a person
setanta
11-12-2009, 03:41 PM
So do sports man, celebrities etc...but it's only because they couldn't manage all of this. A lot of people are VERY VERY rich yet you don't hear from them as they don't expose themselves and they live quite happily.
What you need is a good financial adviser (I can give you my Dad's phone number if you want lol), some lost beach in Oceania, a nice girlfriend and that's it.
People need to stop thinking life is like a romantic movie. Life is a porn film.
We are living in a material world and you are a material fella. lol. You know what people usually say when they're on their deathbeds? They don't regret the money they made or didn't make, the status they attained in life or the depths of financial ruin they sank to. What they regret is not connecting more with people and telling the people they care about that they loved them with all their hearts. Making a difference in others lives. I find that interesting.
Niamh.
11-12-2009, 03:49 PM
We are living in a material world and you are a material fella. lol. You know what people usually say when they're on their deathbeds? They don't regret the money they made or didn't make, the status they attained in life or the depths of financial ruin they sank to. What they regret is not connecting more with people and telling the people they care about that they loved them with all their hearts. Making a difference in others lives. I find that interesting.
Money can't make you happy if you're not already happy but it can help to take away everyday worries like paying bills and enable you to do things that you might not have been able to do otherwise which would make you happier!!!
setanta
11-12-2009, 03:53 PM
Money can't make you happy if you're not already happy but it can help to take away everyday worries like paying bills and enable you to do things that you might not have been able to do otherwise which would make you happier!!!
Obviously, but in this debate it's about the aquisition of a huge amount of wealth that goes beyond mere comfort so it throws other issues into play, like when is enough enough and what's the motivation behind this obsession with material gain. I think it's important to stress that if money is so important to some for happiness, what happens when that wealth is finally theres? What replaces that need in their lives? Sorry, I just find it fascinating.
Captain.Remy
11-12-2009, 03:54 PM
We are living in a material world and you are a material fella. lol. You know what people usually say when they're on their deathbeds? They don't regret the money they made or didn't make, the status they attained in life or the depths of financial ruin they sank to. What they regret is not connecting more with people and telling the people they care about that they loved them with all their hearts. Making a difference in others lives. I find that interesting.
Oh I know I'm a material guy, and quite a spoilt one too, but hey, each one has its vice.
But with all the money of the world, you still can tell people you love them. Why does money have to prevent people from being happy and telling each other their feelings ? That's in people's head really.
Rich people who are unhappy didn't handle all this stuff well.
setanta
11-12-2009, 03:55 PM
Oh I know I'm a material guy, and quite a spoilt one too, but hey, each one has its vice.
But with all the money of the world, you still can tell people you love them. Why does money have to prevent people from being happy and telling each other their feelings ? That's in people's head really.
Rich people who are unhappy didn't handle all this stuff well.
Well from what I've heard you've grown up in a rich enviroment right, so it probably effects you differently, you know? Or am I wrong?
Niamh.
11-12-2009, 03:56 PM
Obviously, but in this debate it's about the aquisition of a huge amount of wealth that goes beyond mere comfort so it throws other issues into play, like when is enough enough and what's the motivation behind this obsession with material gain. I think it's important to stress that if money is so important to some for happiness, what happens when that wealth is finally theres? What replaces that need in their lives? Sorry, I just find it fascinating.
well, for me, it would mean I could give up my job, spend more time with my family and travel a whole lot more.
I wouldn't push the button though cos it's not worth taking someones life for.
setanta
11-12-2009, 03:59 PM
well, for me, it would mean I could give up my job, spend more time with my family and travel a whole lot more.
I wouldn't push the button though cos it's not worth taking someones life for.
Yep, but you've got the loved ones all sorted out, don't you darling. hee hee. But that brings it's own problems too, with people dragging out of you for handouts and your children might get spoilt and materialistic. Humans have this amazing ability to create problems in whatever enviroment they settle in.
Niamh.
11-12-2009, 04:03 PM
Yep, but you've got the loved ones all sorted out, don't you darling. hee hee. But that brings it's own problems too, with people dragging out of you for handouts and your children might get spoilt and materialistic. Humans have this amazing ability to create problems in whatever enviroment they settle in.
Well, life is never trouble-free James no matter what situation you're in!!
Jords
11-12-2009, 04:04 PM
Good question, and I dont think nobody would ever know what they'd actually do unless put in that situation.
But for me, I say I would press it once, and God help me, if it was one of my loved ones (family & friends), Id go jump off a cliff, couldnt cope knowing Id killed somebody I love :(
If it was random, Id press it twice, so my kids (when I have them) would be fit for life too, but still fill hugely guilty but you wont know who died so it would pass over (but just thinking about taken somebody away from people who love them is horrid).
Captain.Remy
11-12-2009, 04:05 PM
Well from what I've heard you've grown up in a rich enviroment right, so it probably effects you differently, you know? Or am I wrong?
I wouldn't say rich, just privileged that my parents do jobs that keep them rather busy: my Mum is a Nurse so she works a lot at night and my dad is a financial advisor and travels around Europe all the time. So yeah sometimes I didn't see them for a week, yes that's the price for money but that doesn't mean we are not happy or we don't tell/show we love each other.
I'm not saying money is the key, of course you need a balance, but trust me, it helps.
I got this teach from my parents who come from poor countries (at the time they arrived here), so just for this reason, they're my idols and why it made my mind on the matter.
setanta
11-12-2009, 04:06 PM
I wouldn't say rich, just privileged that my parents do jobs that keep them rather busy: my Mum is a Nurse so she works a lot at night and my dad is a financial advisor and travels around Europe all the time. So yeah sometimes I didn't see them for a week, yes that's the price for money but that doesn't mean we are not happy or we don't tell/show we love each other.
I'm not saying money is the key, of course you need a balance, but trust me, it helps.
I got this teach from my parents who come from poor countries (at the time they arrived here), so just for this reason, they're my idols and why it made my mind on the matter.
Of course it does, but if it's your primary motivation in life or that you believe it's the ticket to happiness you're in real trouble, you know? Has to come from within. Now let's dance lol.
Iceman
11-12-2009, 04:16 PM
I'd tie a rat to a stick and set up a contraption so that it sways back and forward, get him to push the buton.......come on theres a gazillion rats out there........id even donate money so that a rat island could be set up....;)
Me id consider pushing it once....maybe twice.
Captain.Remy
11-12-2009, 04:16 PM
Of course it does, but if it's your primary motivation in life or that you believe it's the ticket to happiness you're in real trouble, you know? Has to come from within. Now let's dance lol.
That's not what I think. I've had my heart broken (like I said, the only thing you cannot buy is love), I've had some issues and still do but I think I'd be way worse if I didn't have any money.
Crimson Dynamo
11-12-2009, 04:16 PM
the love of money is the root of all evil
1 Timothy 6:10: For the love of money is a root of all kinds of evil.
Shaun
11-12-2009, 04:18 PM
someone's seen the trailer for 'The Box' :p
yes. I'd press it once, but only once. 1mil would be enough for me.
WOMBAI
11-12-2009, 04:43 PM
i would push it once.
That might be ok if Olly is the one that cops it!:joker:
someone's seen the trailer for 'The Box' :p
yes. I'd press it once, but only once. 1mil would be enough for me.
Hahah I honestly didn't even remember seeing the trailer till you mentioned it. I saw a similar post on another forum and thought it would spark up an interesting discussion.
the love of money is the root of all evil
1 Timothy 6:10: For the love of money is a root of all kinds of evil.
What a load of poppycock!
Niamh.
11-12-2009, 04:45 PM
Hahah I honestly didn't even remember seeing the trailer till you mentioned it. I saw a similar post on another forum and thought it would spark up an interesting discussion.
Wasn't it a ghost story before a film? Did anybody else hear that, I heard when I was a kid and the person asks after they press the button who died and the man says the person who pushed the button before you!
I'd tie a rat to a stick and set up a contraption so that it sways back and forward, get him to push the buton.......come on theres a gazillion rats out there........id even donate money so that a rat island could be set up....;)
Me id consider pushing it once....maybe twice.
That would be one rich rat!
WOMBAI
11-12-2009, 04:47 PM
Money can't make you happy if you're not already happy but it can help to take away everyday worries like paying bills and enable you to do things that you might not have been able to do otherwise which would make you happier!!!
Blood money!
setanta
11-12-2009, 04:47 PM
I'm honestly shocked at how many would do it lol.
Niamh.
11-12-2009, 04:49 PM
Blood money!
I wouldn't do it, I couldn't live with that guilt hanging over me!!
Blood money!
Yep, it would be blood money, but it's still money. I would not at all be bothered where it came from, just as long as I know myself and my family were safe.
setanta
11-12-2009, 04:51 PM
Yep, it would be blood money, but it's still money. I would not at all be bothered where it came from, just as long as I know myself and my family were safe.
I could never look at myself in the mirror again with any kind of pride or self assurance. it would haunt you for the rest of your life.
Not me, I assure you.
I don't care for people I don't know. I am not a charitable person, nor do I do anything if it's not for my own gain. I cherish the one's close to me, but I'd **** all over everyone else.
ILoveTRW
11-12-2009, 04:54 PM
id push it at least 20 times 1/10000 is worth the risk
Crimson Dynamo
11-12-2009, 04:55 PM
id push it at least 20 times 1/10000 is worth the risk
risk ruining your life for good?
get real
setanta
11-12-2009, 04:57 PM
Not me, I assure you.
I don't care for people I don't know. I am not a charitable person, nor do I do anything if it's not for my own gain. I cherish the one's close to me, but I'd **** all over everyone else.
Well ******** over someone is entirely different to murdering someone in cold blood hun. I mean, we didn't develop a conscience just for the craic like. It's helped us create the world we now live in.
Well ******** over someone is entirely different to murdering someone in cold blood hun. I mean, we didn't develop a conscience just for the craic like. It's helped us create the world we now live in.
Then lets be thankful there aren't many people as heartless as I am. :P
Stephanie
11-12-2009, 05:00 PM
That might be ok if Olly is the one that cops it!:joker:
lmao :D:shocked:
setanta
11-12-2009, 05:02 PM
Then lets be thankful there aren't many people as heartless as I am. :P
You should be in politics my dear. Get this lady onto Obama's administration.
Deirdre
11-12-2009, 05:04 PM
I'd push it once if there was a 1/10,000 chance a close relative would die.
I'd also only push it once if there was a 1/10,000 chance someone I don't know would die. One million is enough for me, I wouldn't take someone's life for another million.
MissKittyFantastico
11-12-2009, 05:04 PM
Here is the situation. There is a big fat red button right in the centre of a small room you are standing in. You know that if you press this button you will net yourself £1,000,000. You can press this button as many times as you like, each giving you the same amount of cash, but in doing so there is 1/10,000 chance one of your closest relatives or partner will die every time you press it.
Do you take the risk and press the button? If so, how many times? Or if not, what if the situation was different and only people who you didn't know could die instead?
Think about the situation carefully before answering please. :)
Have you just watched The Box or something Enid? :hugesmile:
If it meant someone close to me dying then no I wouldn't risk it but if it was someone I didn't know then you know what I probably would. The odds of someone dying are pretty slim so hell yeah for the money I'd do it.
Have you just watched The Box or something Enid? :hugesmile:
If it meant someone close to me dying then no I wouldn't risk it but if it was someone I didn't know then you know what I probably would. The odds of someone dying are pretty slim so hell yeah for the money I'd do it.
Haha, nah the movie didn't even come to mind till Shaun mentioned it.
Glad people are being honest. Some of us too selfish and greedy not to press it. It's human nature.
You should be in politics my dear. Get this lady onto Obama's administration.
I'd rather be the Queen. I could sit on my arse all day and do **** all.
setanta
11-12-2009, 05:08 PM
I'd push it once if there was a 1/10,000 chance a close relative would die.
I'd also only push it once if there was a 1/10,000 chance someone I don't know would die. One million is enough for me, I wouldn't take someone's life for another million.
So you only want to kill off one person... how very noble of you. :tongue:
WOMBAI
11-12-2009, 05:09 PM
Have you just watched The Box or something Enid? :hugesmile:
If it meant someone close to me dying then no I wouldn't risk it but if it was someone I didn't know then you know what I probably would. The odds of someone dying are pretty slim so hell yeah for the money I'd do it.
Just think of it from the point of view that if we were all asked that question and all or most thought like you - that could put your loved ones at considerable risk - as to the vast majority of people - your loved ones would be among those they didn't know or care about! Wouldn't be so appealing then!
InOne
11-12-2009, 05:10 PM
The money is right, so it would be Rock n Roll all the way for me. About 15 million would do
setanta
11-12-2009, 05:10 PM
I'd rather be the Queen. I could sit on my arse all day and do **** all.
Ah but she has no really power to give and take life anymore, and you need the added motivation of material gain. Power, greed and ruthlessness = US goverment baby or any government really for that matter, but they're the ones doing the most killing out of the western world I suppose.
Deirdre
11-12-2009, 05:11 PM
So you only want to kill off one person... how very noble of you. :tongue:
It's not that bad!
I'd feel guilty if I killed two but not one for some reason.
setanta
11-12-2009, 05:12 PM
It's not that bad!
I'd feel guilty if I killed two but not one for some reason.
This is getting worse by the minute. I have to get out of this fecking thread.
MissKittyFantastico
11-12-2009, 05:12 PM
Just think of it from the point of view that if we were all asked that question and all or most thought like you - that could put your loved ones at considerable risk - as to the vast majority of people - your loved ones would be among those they didn't know or care about! Wouldn't be so appealing then!
It's not a huge risk though is it on those odds, especially if you're only pushing the button the once, which I would. I admit it's selfish, but like Enid I admit I'm selfish and I'd want the money to look after myself and my loved ones. I don't really care about people I don't know tbh. Call me what you want, that's just the way I am. Charity begins at home with me I'm afraid.
It's not that bad!
I'd feel guilty if I killed two but not one for some reason.
What if a relative died though? You said you'd push it if a relative was at risk.
King Gizzard
11-12-2009, 05:13 PM
I wouldnt do it
I wouldnt be able to live with the fact that ive jeapordized someone close to me's life for money
Deirdre
11-12-2009, 05:14 PM
What if a relative died though? You said you'd push it if a relative was at risk.
I'd feel terrible if I did press it.
I'd feel terrible if I did press it.
Would you still keep the money knowing a relative died because of it?
I wouldnt do it
I wouldnt be able to live with the fact that ive jeapordized someone close to me's life for money
What if only those you didn't know could die?
Deirdre
11-12-2009, 05:16 PM
Would you still keep the money knowing a relative died because of it?
I probably wouldn't no. I'd only press it because of that 1/10,000 risk.
setanta
11-12-2009, 05:17 PM
I probably wouldn't no. I'd only press it because of that 1/10,000 risk.
You could give them a right good send off though with that extra cash.
King Gizzard
11-12-2009, 05:17 PM
I still couldnt live with it
My conscience is massive
You could give them a right good send off though with that extra cash.
Lol, that is true.
Deirdre
11-12-2009, 05:18 PM
You could give them a right good send off though with that extra cash.
I'd never do that!
Burying someone with the money that killed them. I'd just burn it.
Jack_
11-12-2009, 05:19 PM
I wouldn't press it with odds of 1/10,000,000, let alone anything else.
If it was just for people I didn't know though, I think I'd press it twice. Only because I couldn't live with the thought that I killed one unlucky person, and one unlucky person only. But I think I'd probably be sick afterwards.
It's not a huge risk though is it on those odds, especially if you're only pushing the button the once, which I would. I admit it's selfish, but like Enid I admit I'm selfish and I'd want the money to look after myself and my loved ones. I don't really care about people I don't know tbh. Call me what you want, that's just the way I am. Charity begins at home with me I'm afraid.
"Charity begins at home". I completely agree. That's why I hate all these charitable events like Children in Need, lol.
setanta
11-12-2009, 05:20 PM
I'd never do that!
Burying someone with the money that killed them. I'd just burn it.
Come on, you could have the best funeral ever! Fly all your relatives home, get the best casket on the market, flowers all over the fecking place, a royal guard escort and the best spread of food ever. No cocktail sausages in sight.
setanta
11-12-2009, 05:21 PM
"Charity begins at home". I completely agree. That's why I hate all these charitable events like Children in Need, lol.
Oh I can't listen to this anymore!
InOne
11-12-2009, 05:21 PM
"Charity begins at home". I completely agree. That's why I hate all these charitable events like Children in Need, lol.
I have just had Ammnesty International ring me lol They can be quite pushy sometimes.
MissKittyFantastico
11-12-2009, 05:22 PM
Oh I can't listen to this anymore!
I think me and you are off James' Xmas card list Enid! :bawling::hugesmile:
I think me and you are off James' Xmas card list Enid! :bawling::hugesmile:
Haha, we can't all be saints around here. :P
setanta
11-12-2009, 05:24 PM
Haha, we can't all be saints around here. :P
Don't bring religion into this. It's about having a conscience and there's no way you can rationalise this. You're playing with human lives here. And Michelle, you want to be a fecking shrink!!!
Spike
11-12-2009, 05:25 PM
I would push it once then maybe a few time later on if I needed some cash
InOne
11-12-2009, 05:26 PM
Don't bring religion into this. It's about having a conscience and there's no way you can rationalise this. You're playing with human lives here. And Michelle, you want to be a fecking shrink!!!
I'd leave my conscience at home that day.
Don't bring religion into this. It's about having a conscience and there's no way you can rationalise this. You're playing with human lives here. And Michelle, you want to be a fecking shrink!!!
I'm not bringing religion anywhere. You are.
setanta
11-12-2009, 05:27 PM
I'd leave my conscience at home that day.
Trouble is it wouldn't be waiting for you when you get home Joe.
WOMBAI
11-12-2009, 05:27 PM
"Charity begins at home". I completely agree. That's why I hate all these charitable events like Children in Need, lol.
I'm sorry - but it would be a horrible world if we all thought like that! What about all those unfortunate children born into bad family situations whose own family don't care about them - where would they be without others to care about them. What if a child of yours became ill - and noone else cared.
Not a world I would want to be part of!
setanta
11-12-2009, 05:28 PM
I'm not bringing religion anywhere. You are.
I didn't. You mentioned saints here. I'm talking about right and wrong.
MissKittyFantastico
11-12-2009, 05:28 PM
Don't bring religion into this. It's about having a conscience and there's no way you can rationalise this. You're playing with human lives here. And Michelle, you want to be a fecking shrink!!!
And all shrinks would answer no to that question would they? Come on James, that's got nothing to do with it.
InOne
11-12-2009, 05:29 PM
Trouble is it wouldn't be waiting for you when you get home Joe.
Well you are talking to a guy who has a worrying obsession with a very evil man. I might change my pattern of thinking one day.
Conzors
11-12-2009, 05:29 PM
No i wouldnt do it.
x
setanta
11-12-2009, 05:29 PM
And all shrinks would answer no to that question would they? Come on James, that's got nothing to do with it.
As a shrink you're supposed to have a natural empathy with others and an ability to feel their pain and be a rock of stability for them. How can you be there for them when you value your family and yourself more than others? That's what this thread is all about.
Stacey.
11-12-2009, 05:30 PM
i would press it, about 10 timess,, there is just ONE personn, i really wouldnt want to diee........ :(
Yes I mentioned saints, but not in the religious sense.
MissKittyFantastico
11-12-2009, 05:34 PM
As a shrink you're supposed to have a natural empathy with others and an ability to feel their pain and be a rock of stability for them. How can you be there for them when you value your family and yourself more than others? That's what this thread is all about.
So you're saying that because I would take a 1/10,000 risk of somebody dying by me pressing a button ONCE, that I have ZERO empathy for anybody but myself and people I care about? And the question didn't offer the option of ME personally dying. Of course I value the people closest to me more than a perfect stranger, don't you?! That's only natural surely? Doesn't mean I can't feel empathy for anyone else, that's just silly.
setanta
11-12-2009, 05:34 PM
Well you are talking to a guy who has a worrying obsession with a very evil man. I might change my pattern of thinking one day.
I was right about your obsession over him. Come on Joseph, there's better fellas to be obsessed with.
Stephanie
11-12-2009, 05:34 PM
if it was just people who i didn't know that could die and not people close to me then i would probably press it untill the button broke.
if it was just people who i didn't know that could die and not people close to me then i would probably press it untill the button broke.
That's not very realistic though, is it? The button is actually very sturdy and impossible to break.
Crimson Dynamo
11-12-2009, 05:36 PM
This button should be on tv
InOne
11-12-2009, 05:37 PM
I was right about your obsession over him. Come on Joseph, there's better fellas to be obsessed with.
I know, recently I have just got a little detached from everything, I need to get back in reality. I have lost my love for people.
This button should be on tv
On Channel Morbid, along with Russian Roulette. :P
setanta
11-12-2009, 05:37 PM
So you're saying that because I would take a 1/1000 risk of somebody dying by me pressing a button ONCE, that I have ZERO empathy for anybody but myself and people I care about? And the question didn't offer the option of ME personally dying. Of course I value the people closest to me more than a perfect stranger, don't you?! That's only natural surely? Doesn't mean I can't feel empathy for anyone else, that's just silly.
You're playing with others lives carelessly if you choose to push that button, which is in direct conflict with psychology,where the primary aim is to eleviate the troubles of others. One has to have a profound love for the preciousness and astonishing variety and beauty found in life to pursue a career like that. But sure that applies to humanity too. We'd be still sleeping in our own faeces if it wasn't for our humanity.
setanta
11-12-2009, 05:39 PM
I know, recently I have just got a little detached from everything, I need to get back in reality. I have lost my love for people.
I understand, but you can rekindle that spark and connection with life very easily. Those group meetings might be a good option for you. Like minded people who need support.
Crimson Dynamo
11-12-2009, 05:39 PM
I know, recently I have just got a little detached from everything, I need to get back in reality. I have lost my love for people.
focus on Jesus
focus on Jesus
Leave Jesus out of this please. I know his birthday is coming up, but I don't want this turning into a religious debate.
Crimson Dynamo
11-12-2009, 05:40 PM
On Channel Morbid, along with Russian Roulette. :P
aaah channel morbid. sky 1001
tonight at 9: Care Bear Anal death
Crimson Dynamo
11-12-2009, 05:41 PM
Leave Jesus out of this please. I know his birthday is coming up, but I don't want this turning into a religious debate.
its good advice for those who can only see the darker parts of our souls
setanta
11-12-2009, 05:42 PM
its good advice for those who can only see the darker parts of our souls
It's not a religious debate LT.
MissKittyFantastico
11-12-2009, 05:43 PM
You're playing with others lives carelessly if you choose to push that button, which is in direct conflict with psychology,where the primary aim is to eleviate the troubles of others. One has to have a profound love for the preciousness and astonishing variety and beauty found in life to pursue a career like that. But sure that applies to humanity too. We'd be still sleeping in our own faeces if it wasn't for our humanity.
I have plenty of love for the preciousness and variety and beauty in life thank you very much! And I do plenty in my life to alleviate the troubles of others already, so I'm far from a cold heartless bitch like you are making out. But if I'm headed to hell for saying I would take a miniscule risk of a total stranger dying when I could get the money to be able to take care of my own family and alleviate a lot of their suffering then so be it. I'm a selfish bitch.
Crimson Dynamo
11-12-2009, 05:43 PM
It's not a religious debate LT.
its always a religious topic
InOne
11-12-2009, 05:43 PM
I understand, but you can rekindle that spark and connection with life very easily. Those group meetings might be a good option for you. Like minded people who need support.
We'll see, i'm not doing too bad anyway, not really a fan of the group things though.
MissKittyFantastico
11-12-2009, 05:43 PM
focus on Jesus
What the **** has he got to do with it?
What the **** has he got to do with it?
Don't get him started, haha.
Crimson Dynamo
11-12-2009, 05:46 PM
What the **** has he got to do with it?
it will mean nothing to you for you know nothing of him. let it go.
setanta
11-12-2009, 05:46 PM
I have plenty of love for the preciousness and variety and beauty in life thank you very much! And I do plenty in my life to alleviate the troubles of others already, so I'm far from a cold heartless bitch like you are making out. But if I'm headed to hell for saying I would take a miniscule risk of a total stranger dying when I could get the money to be able to take care of my own family and alleviate a lot of their suffering then so be it. I'm a selfish bitch.
I'm not calling you cold hearted here. We're having a discussion that's all and I find it fascinating that a lot of you would risk the lives of others for a bit of material gain. Miniscule or not, you're still gambling here and it's not on the horses and, unlike with them you'll never know if you killed or not, right? That would stay with me to my grave.
I think if the situation was different and it was guaranteed someone would die with each push of the button, people would reconsider. 1/10,000 is VERY slim.
Crimson Dynamo
11-12-2009, 05:46 PM
We'll see, i'm not doing too bad anyway, not really a fan of the group things though.
i get that. sometimes you have to force that urge though.
setanta
11-12-2009, 05:47 PM
We'll see, i'm not doing too bad anyway, not really a fan of the group things though.
That's probably why they'd do you the world of good.
Crimson Dynamo
11-12-2009, 05:47 PM
I think if the situation was different and it was guaranteed someone would die with each push of the button, people would reconsider. 1/10,000 is VERY slim.
are there any other buttons around, or naked ladies in boots?
MissKittyFantastico
11-12-2009, 05:47 PM
I think if the situation was different and it was guaranteed someone would die with each push of the button, people would reconsider. 1/10,000 is VERY slim.
Definitely. If it was 1/100 I probably wouldn't do it tbh. It's simply because the risk is SO miniscule.
MissKittyFantastico
11-12-2009, 05:50 PM
I'm not calling you cold hearted here. We're having a discussion that's all and I find it fascinating that a lot of you would risk the lives of others for a bit of material gain. Miniscule or not, you're still gambling here and it's not on the horses and, unlike with them you'll never know if you killed or not, right? That would stay with me to my grave.
I'm not saying it wouldn't always be on my conscience, especially if you DID find out whether you had killed someone or not. But for me the risk would be worth it if it meant being financially secure for life and being able to alleviate the suffering of people I am close to. I just put the people closest to me first is all, same as most other people I would imagine. I might be wrong, the guilt might totally **** me up but then that would be for me to live with right?
andyman
11-12-2009, 06:00 PM
1/10,000 chance one of your closest relatives or partner will die everytime you press it.
1/3 will get Cancer..
Fantastic odds, i will press it!
1/10,000 chance one of your closest relatives or partner will die everytime you press it.
1/3 will get Cancer..
Fantastic odds, i will press it!
Not everyone that gets cancer dies, andy. :P
WOMBAI
11-12-2009, 06:17 PM
Not everyone that gets cancer dies, andy. :P
And most of those will be in their 70s plus!
andyman
11-12-2009, 06:18 PM
True but the odds do show that you're more likely to die from cancer..
Braden
11-12-2009, 06:19 PM
that's a really hard question.
i would probably do it once and then just leave it at that
and face the consequences
Crimson Dynamo
11-12-2009, 06:22 PM
True but the odds do show that you're more likely to die from cancer..
yes but not because of your greed
teabag.
11-12-2009, 06:27 PM
i would press it once..
i think..
the odds are pretty slim anyway..so why not
Crimson Dynamo
11-12-2009, 06:40 PM
i would press it once..
i think..
the odds are pretty slim anyway..so why not
and risk killing the person you love the most?
get
real
Braden
11-12-2009, 06:46 PM
and risk killing the person you love the most?
get
real
it's their choice,and it's not real anyway.
i think you need to get off your high horse love
A lot of people would take that risk. The temptation of money is too much for some to ignore. If they were unlucky and killed someone on the first push, it would be a very big price to pay for a measly £1,000,000.
setanta
11-12-2009, 06:48 PM
A lot of people would take that risk. The temptation of money is too much for some to ignore. If they were unlucky and killed someone on the first push, it would be a very big price to pay for a measly £1,000,000.
If it's measly why press the button and run the risk of killing somebody in the first place? And don't forget, you'll never know if someones croaked or not.
Braden
11-12-2009, 06:49 PM
it could even be someone like the queen or lady gaga who gets killed
If it's measly why press the button and run the risk of killing somebody in the first place? And don't forget, you'll never know if someones croaked or not.
If I had pressed the button and my mother had died, that 1mil would mean nothing to me anymore. No amount of money could tempt me to risk the life of my family. Strangers on the other hand...
I think I would prefer not knowing if someone had died.
it could even be someone like the queen or lady gaga who gets killed
In a sense, you do know them. You know of their existence. They do not count.
setanta
11-12-2009, 06:52 PM
If I had pressed the button and my mother had died, that 1mil would mean nothing to me anymore. No amount of money could tempt me to risk the life of my family. Strangers on the other hand...
I think I would prefer not knowing if someone had died.
It would play on your mind and tarnish your ability to spend the money.... you have a conscience, I know you do darling.
It would play on your mind and tarnish your ability to spend the money.... you have a conscience, I know you do darling.
Perhaps. This is all hypothetical anyway. No one knows for sure how they'd feel.
I like arguing with you too. ;)
andyman
11-12-2009, 07:04 PM
Press the button.. Nobody will die with 1/10,000 odds.
Spend the money on your family, donate to needy people..
C'mon take the chance.. :)
That is another way to look at it, I suppose.
At the possible expense of one life, you could give others a better one.
setanta
11-12-2009, 07:08 PM
That is another way to look at it, I suppose.
At the possible expense of one life, you could give others a better one.
But how can you look at your loved ones or yourself afterwards? How can you teach your children to value life and be compassionate towards others?
How would the people die?
A painful death or a quick and Painless one
How would the people die?
A painful death or a quick and Painless one
Quick and painless. Removed like they had never existed in the first place.
But how can you look at your loved ones or yourself afterwards? How can you teach your children to value life and be compassionate towards others?
I.. don't know. Those questions have me stumped to be honest.
andyman
11-12-2009, 07:19 PM
But how can you look at your loved ones or yourself afterwards? How can you teach your children to value life and be compassionate towards others?It will teach them power! And lust for power is good.. You're an American! Be the best..
bronaaaa
11-12-2009, 07:56 PM
I might once..but I think I'd be too chicken
That's alright. Has nothing to do with bravery. :)
GypsyGoth
11-12-2009, 08:13 PM
I think I'd push it... actually I'm not so sure. I don't like hurting people, so I guess I wouldn't risk peoples' lives. I can be greedy and mean spirited sometimes but to risk killing loved ones is too much of a price.
Jack_
11-12-2009, 08:15 PM
Judging by the majority of replies in this thread, and I'm assuming around the world, you may as well press it, cause that person would probably do the same in your situation.
Captain.Remy
11-12-2009, 08:18 PM
http://i37.tinypic.com/xbxnwg.jpg
WOMBAI
11-12-2009, 10:58 PM
It will teach them power! And lust for power is good.. You're an American! Be the best..
Typical American arrogance! :sleep:
MissKittyFantastico
11-12-2009, 11:01 PM
Typical American arrogance! :sleep:
Such prejudice! :sleep:
Patrick
11-12-2009, 11:01 PM
I guess you seen the Movie 'The Box' too then?
I saw it today and its the excact same as this only instead of a close friend dieing its a complete stranger.
Quite frankly if it was a complete stranger that was dieing if I pressed it I wouldnt give to ****s, because I couldnt care what happens to anyone else as long as I have what I want.
But if its my Family/Partner/Friend then I would care alot and wouldnt press it.
Money isnt everything.
WOMBAI
11-12-2009, 11:05 PM
Such prejudice! :sleep:
Really - at least I'm not power mad!
Stacey.
11-12-2009, 11:06 PM
money CAN buy happiness - it really depends what sort of happiness you want at the time.
setanta
11-12-2009, 11:08 PM
I guess you seen the Movie 'The Box' too then?
I saw it today and its the excact same as this only instead of a close friend dieing its a complete stranger.
Quite frankly if it was a complete stranger that was dieing if I pressed it I wouldnt give to ****s, because I couldnt care what happens to anyone else as long as I have what I want.
But if its my Family/Partner/Friend then I would care alot and wouldnt press it.
Money isnt everything.
Lol, so money isn't everything and yet you'd kill for it. I shudder to think what you'd do for something that did mean everything to you.
setanta
11-12-2009, 11:09 PM
Judging by the majority of replies in this thread, and I'm assuming around the world, you may as well press it, cause that person would probably do the same in your situation.
We'd have had a totally different ending to the Dark Knight if that were the case. lol. Come on, you can't think like that or we're all f£cked.
MissKittyFantastico
11-12-2009, 11:12 PM
Really - at least I'm not power mad!
And all Americans are I suppose?!
WOMBAI
11-12-2009, 11:12 PM
[QUOTE=Patrick;2752237]I guess you seen the Movie 'The Box' too then?
I saw it today and its the excact same as this only instead of a close friend dieing its a complete stranger.
Quite frankly if it was a complete stranger that was dieing if I pressed it I wouldnt give to ****s, because I couldnt care what happens to anyone else as long as I have what I want.
With an attitude like that - if you ever find yourself in trouble - I hope no stranger ever comes to help you. You wouldn't be worth the trouble!
Patrick
12-12-2009, 12:20 AM
With an attitude like that - if you ever find yourself in trouble - I hope no stranger ever comes to help you. You wouldn't be worth the trouble!!
So ****, why should I care if a stranger dies?
People die every day, infact oh there goes another one.
In the space of time it takes you to read this post 11 people will die in Africa, Dont really care and neither should you.
You have a nice life.
I have a nice life.
We all hae a nice life, and of course life can always be made better so if I was given the Oppertunity to get this much cash just to have another African or any stranger for that matter die, I wouldnt care.
And Neither would you.
setanta
12-12-2009, 12:23 AM
So ****, why should I care if a stranger dies?
People die every day, infact oh there goes another one.
In the space of time it takes you to read this post 11 people will die in Africa, Dont really care and neither should you.
You have a nice life.
I have a nice life.
We all hae a nice life, and of course life can always be made better so if I was given the Oppertunity to get this much cash just to have another African or any stranger for that matter die, I wouldnt care.
And Neither would you.
"just to have another African or any stranger for the matter die"
This is incredible stuff to be saying, even for you Patrick.
Patrick
12-12-2009, 12:24 AM
Lol, so money isn't everything and yet you'd kill for it. I shudder to think what you'd do for something that did mean everything to you.
:joker:
Its not that big a deal, as in I wouldnt kill my family or anything for money.
But if it was someone I didnt know then yeah whatever its free cash so its great :)
Patrick
12-12-2009, 12:27 AM
"just to have another African or any stranger for the matter die"
This is incredible stuff to be saying, even for you Patrick.
What, you may want to help the poor and needy but I couldnt care less about them.
Not my problem are they.
I hate in school where they always ask to donate money and food to Hobos and stuff and like poor kids, I feel like shouting to the teacher **** because my family work hard to get food and money for our family, so why should I give up my money for some poor people.
Princess
12-12-2009, 12:28 AM
Oscar Wilde once said: 'The best way to get rid of a temptation is to yield to it' so I'd definitely push it once. So I'd get a million. But what can you do with a million today ? Not much anylonger.
And after all, it's only a 1/10,000 chance so I could push it plenty if times before someone I love dies.
And to people who say money isn't everything, go and tell that to a blue collar worker who kills his ass off to earn barely £1000 per month. You'll see what he tells you.
To me, money is everything. It might not buy love, yet you feel much better when you have money OR if money doesn't buy happiness, then give it to me, I want to be unhappy. :wink:
Money won't buy you happiness if you're genuinely unhappy though,if you have no friends or a partner or whatever. If you're happy anyways,money will greatly increase your happiness,lol!
Princess
12-12-2009, 12:28 AM
Oh and I couldn't push the button,no way.
Ramsay
12-12-2009, 12:30 AM
id push it once
Stacey.
12-12-2009, 12:34 AM
What, you may want to help the poor and needy but I couldnt care less about them.
Not my problem are they.
yeh i know what you mean.
i think that too really:spin:
but if i ever say that to anyone,, they go absolutely CRAZY, man! :joker:
Sayingg 'oh, you SHOULD care about other people that have nothing'
im like.... 'well, i DONT'
lmfaao :D
setanta
12-12-2009, 12:43 AM
What, you may want to help the poor and needy but I couldnt care less about them.
Not my problem are they.
I hate in school where they always ask to donate money and food to Hobos and stuff and like poor kids, I feel like shouting to the teacher **** because my family work hard to get food and money for our family, so why should I give up my money for some poor people.
Honestly, I'm not going to begin to open up a discussion with you cuz you're driving me mental with each and every line you type. First tip for you would be to study a little history even before we attempt to debate anything else.
You're harsh Patrick, but you're honest. I commend that.
Vicky.
12-12-2009, 03:57 AM
If a member of my family may die, I would probably push it once, maybe twice with odds of 1/10000
If it was a stranger, probably more, maybe 5 or so.
If the odds of MYSELF dying were 1/10000 I would push it about 10 times. My life would be a thousand times better if I didnt die and the odds of me ending it would only be 1/1000...plus its a quick and painless death...better than the death I may have whenever otherwise.
30stone
12-12-2009, 04:03 AM
Friends and relatives - No way would i go near it.
Random person... like 5 times make sure all family are nice and secure..
InOne
12-12-2009, 12:00 PM
People do crazy things over money. No matter what anyone says it does changes people. People have done worse over less amounts so I doubt many people would have a problem pushing it.
InOne
12-12-2009, 12:02 PM
money CAN buy happiness - it really depends what sort of happiness you want at the time.
That is actually the smartest thing you've ever said.
Beastie
12-12-2009, 01:56 PM
I would press the button once and see what happens. I would not really want my friend, boyfriend, mum or Jack Russel to die. That is only 4 people/dog out of 10,000 chances though. I would take the risk.
Beastie
12-12-2009, 01:58 PM
This reminds me on Big Brother.. when Makosi pressed the red button. Do you guys remember that?
I wouldn't, I couldn't handle the fact I have killed someone close to someone else.
WOMBAI
12-12-2009, 04:25 PM
So ****, why should I care if a stranger dies?
People die every day, infact oh there goes another one.
In the space of time it takes you to read this post 11 people will die in Africa, Dont really care and neither should you.
You have a nice life.
I have a nice life.
We all hae a nice life, and of course life can always be made better so if I was given the Oppertunity to get this much cash just to have another African or any stranger for that matter die, I wouldnt care.
And Neither would you.
Speak for yourself! To actually make a conscious decision to let someone else die - so that you can have a lot of money - is tantamount to murder!
Speaks volumes about you that you can come out with such utter crap! You would probably be the first to want some stranger to help you if you lay dying in the road or something - your'e not even worth discussing this with any longer!
bananarama
12-12-2009, 06:00 PM
To put in danger a loved one or relative is the ultimate betrayal of civilised behavour......Sort of mind set you would expect from the likes of Adolf Hitler.......
No civilised human being would press the button under those conditions unless you are an instictive murderer for personal gain...
bananarama
12-12-2009, 06:12 PM
I agree Remy. Money is very important and I believe it does buy happiness or at least it rids of a lot of worry and problems we face today. I think many people would be tempted to push this button more than once. We are greedy after all.
Money is very important yes and it "can" buy happiness but is not garaunteed too....... Money cnnot buy you out of an agonising terminal illness........Money cannot buy genuine friends.......Money can attract criminals in your direction as people who have had their children held to ransom and killed would testify......
In short it is foolish and short sighted to believe money is the road to happiness....... At the end of the day happiness is in the mind and not the state of your bank balance.....
Tiger woods is rolling in it. Is he a happy bunny at the mo........Money can and often does bring quite the opposite to hapiness........
To bring it back on topic if the button was pressed and a dear one was lost the rich sole would have to live with the fact that in effect it was murder of a loved one for gain.........Some happiness.....And what a monster that so called happy one would be......
_Seth
12-12-2009, 06:25 PM
Random people: Twice or three times. I mean it's a very small chance.
Closest: None.
WOMBAI
12-12-2009, 08:05 PM
But it would be a bigger chance for your loved ones - being strangers to the majority of people! For every one of them that shares your attitude - increases the chances of your loved ones paying the price!
Niamh.
12-12-2009, 09:02 PM
But it would be a bigger chance for your loved ones - being strangers to the majority of people! For every one of them that shares your attitude - increases the chances of your loved ones paying the price!
Exactely!!:thumbs:
atieah2009
13-12-2009, 01:52 AM
Yes 1 in 10,000 at least 30 times. I hate my relatives.
No if it was my family not even once:( (ok maybe just once.... since no one died just few more times:D)
Beastie
13-12-2009, 02:10 AM
But it would be a bigger chance for your loved ones - being strangers to the majority of people! For every one of them that shares your attitude - increases the chances of your loved ones paying the price!
I am a sick person so I would take the risk :joker:
MrGaryy
13-12-2009, 02:20 AM
No the money would be tainted with guilt. However, if it was just a person that would die, that I didn't know, then I couldn't give a ****, I'd press it various times.
WOMBAI
13-12-2009, 08:39 AM
I certainly wouldn't give a **** if it was you - with an attitude like that - you would deserve it!
sooty
14-12-2009, 11:32 PM
It would be nice to have money.
I can retire tomorrow.
I can upgrade Sooty and Charie's cat foods.
I can lying on a Cuban beach, drinking mojito, listening to my all time favorite music "Albatross".....................If the money was from lottery.
But NO, even if I was told the victim would be only the strangers (Enid might be one of them), I could not do it. The guilty conscience ,,,,,,,,,.
You can call me a coward, but I do not mind.
Jack_
14-12-2009, 11:35 PM
I certainly wouldn't give a **** if it was you - with an attitude like that - you would deserve it!
Oh God that's hilarious and I don't even know why. :joker:
With an attitude like that you're certainly going to go up in my estimations.
lily.
14-12-2009, 11:42 PM
No.
InOne
14-12-2009, 11:43 PM
What if the person you didn't know who died was a Paedophile or something?
lily.
14-12-2009, 11:43 PM
Still no.
InOne
14-12-2009, 11:45 PM
Still no.
How come?
Jack_
14-12-2009, 11:45 PM
If the paedophile abused children yes, if he didn't, no. Murderers i'd press it numerous times for.
InOne
14-12-2009, 11:47 PM
Murder happens for all sorts of reasons, Paedophilia happens for one reason.
lily.
14-12-2009, 11:50 PM
How come?
I would not take someone's life. That's not for me to do. No matter how bad the person is.. it's still not for me to do.. and for financial gain? That actually sickens me to be honest.
InOne
14-12-2009, 11:52 PM
I would not take someone's life. That's not for me to do. No matter how bad the person is.. it's still not for me to do.. and for financial gain? That actually sickens me to be honest.
Fair enough I guess. At least someone has a conscience on here lol
lily.
15-12-2009, 12:01 AM
This thread has been an eye-opener to be honest.
InOne
15-12-2009, 12:02 AM
To what?
lily.
15-12-2009, 12:03 AM
To the morals/values of some of the members on here.
InOne
15-12-2009, 12:05 AM
Well, i'd like to see half of them in that situation lol But as I said, money changes people in bad ways, and it would only be a button.
lily.
15-12-2009, 12:07 AM
Maybe it's because of my age, or how I grew up, or the fact that I'm a mother, but I'm actually shocked at some of the responses in this thread.
InOne
15-12-2009, 12:09 AM
Well, people have done crazier things for less amounts of money. It's the way Humans are.
lily.
15-12-2009, 12:10 AM
It's not the way all humans are. I wouldn't like to be tarred with the same brush as someone who would kill for financial gain.
InOne
15-12-2009, 12:12 AM
I didn't say all. But it must be something within the natural instinct of survival, knowing they would be better off if they did it.
lily.
15-12-2009, 12:14 AM
Survival is one thing, but this isn't about survival.
It's not like in the movie 'Alive' for example where the survivors of a plane crash ate the flesh of the ones who died, rather than starve. That's a moral dilemma, but at the same time, it's a simple choice of live or die.
This isn't about surviving. This is about gaining money. If it were money to stop you from starving to death then you could talk about survival instinct.. but in this instance, you really can't.
Jack_
15-12-2009, 12:14 AM
The fact of the matter is that none of us really have any idea what we'd do unless we were put in that situation. I'd imagine for the people who have said they would never press the button there's a 99% chance they'd stick to that. But for the people who said they would, I reckon the majority, or at least some, would chicken out and see sense in the end.
lily.
15-12-2009, 12:15 AM
Good point about the ones who said they would. I'd say for the ones who said they wouldn't, 100% would stick to it though. There is no gray area for me and I imagine the same can be said for the others who said no.
InOne
15-12-2009, 12:16 AM
Survival is one thing, but this isn't about survival.
It's not like in the movie 'Alive' for example where the survivors of a plane crash ate the flesh of the ones who died, rather than starve. That's a moral dilemma, but at the same time, it's a simple choice of live or die.
This isn't about surviving. This is about gaining money. If it were money to stop you from starving to death then you could talk about survival instinct.. but in this instance, you really can't.
If it's not survival then it's greed then. And the fact that people die all the time anyway, and they would not even meet the person. A Paedo dying would just be a bonus.
setanta
15-12-2009, 12:24 AM
If it's not survival then it's greed then. And the fact that people die all the time anyway, and they would not even meet the person. A Paedo dying would just be a bonus.
That's the kind of view that causes wars, mass genocide and the exploitation of poorer countries for the benefit of the western world, while we all sit here and debate this crazy topic, in the comfort of our own homes and apathetic natures. Ah, I can't handle this anymore.
WOMBAI
15-12-2009, 12:26 AM
If it's not survival then it's greed then. And the fact that people die all the time anyway, and they would not even meet the person. A Paedo dying would just be a bonus.
This forum seems to be full of incredibly greedy people then! I don't see how not knowing the person - stops people from giving a damn! It could be anyone - god forbid even a child, or a parent of a young child. People are being ludicrous. I like to think that a lot of it is bravado - if not, then god help the human race - it is going downhill fast with this generation.
lily.
15-12-2009, 12:26 AM
Setanta.. I share your views. I'm appalled at some of the posts here.
I'm glad people are being honest, but in the spirit of honesty, I think some of the opinions expressed in this thread are utterly disgusting.
Wombai.. I share your views also.
InOne
15-12-2009, 12:26 AM
That's the kind of view that causes wars, mass genocide and the exploitation of poorer countries for the benefit of the western world, while we all sit here and debate this crazy topic, in the comfort of our own homes and apathetic natures. Ah, I can't handle this anymore.
Well it's not. It's just my opinion on the matter. A hell of a lot of people would not care if I died if they pressed the button so why should I care? People have a way too high expectation of humanity.
lily.
15-12-2009, 12:27 AM
I care about others. I guess I expected most people to care about others too.
setanta
15-12-2009, 12:28 AM
Well it's not. It's just my opinion on the matter. A hell of a lot of people would not care if I died if they pressed the button so why should I care? People have a way too high expectation of humanity.
If that's the case we should ask the world leaders to just put us all out of our misery and lob a couple of hundred nukes all over the shop. It's our ability to show compassion and empathy that makes us human Joe.
InOne
15-12-2009, 12:30 AM
If that's the case we should ask the world leaders to just put us all out of our misery and lob a couple of hundred nukes all over the shop. It's our ability to show compassion and empathy that makes us human Joe.
Indeed, but it all depends to what degree we do it I guess.
InOne
15-12-2009, 12:36 AM
This forum seems to be full of incredibly greedy people then! I don't see how not knowing the person - stops people from giving a damn! It could be anyone - god forbid even a child, or a parent of a young child. People are being ludicrous. I like to think that a lot of it is bravado - if not, then god help the human race - it is going downhill fast with this generation.
You make it sound like there has never been anything evil until this generation. Humans have always been the same and always will be.
setanta
15-12-2009, 12:42 AM
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InOne
15-12-2009, 12:47 AM
Rather dramatic James!!!
setanta
15-12-2009, 12:49 AM
Rather dramatic James!!!
That's what I'm feeling when I read some of the comments here. ha ha.
WOMBAI
15-12-2009, 12:53 AM
You make it sound like there has never been anything evil until this generation. Humans have always been the same and always will be.
Of course - but some of the views expressed on here seem incredibly extreme for such young people - that's why I said that I think it is bravado from some of the younger ones - trying to sound cool!
Maybe those views are from a generation who have been exposed to more materialism than previous generations - all this celebrity obsession from many. Maybe things like video games etc have hardened today's youngers to compassion - I don't know. Maybe I am just being naive - but I can't imagine any of my friends, when I was younger, saying such awful things.
InOne
15-12-2009, 01:07 AM
Of course - but some of the views expressed on here seem incredibly extreme for such young people - that's why I said that I think it is bravado from some of the younger ones - trying to sound cool!
Maybe those views are from a generation who have been exposed to more materialism than previous generations - all this celebrity obsession from many. Maybe things like video games etc have hardened today's youngers to compassion - I don't know. Maybe I am just being naive - but I can't imagine any of my friends, when I was younger, saying such awful things.
I don't need to look cool for anyone. I might feel that way about that situation, but it's not like i'm going to go murder a child or something, i'm not all bad.
MrGaryy
15-12-2009, 01:52 AM
I certainly wouldn't give a **** if it was you - with an attitude like that - you would deserve it!
well sorry honey but I'm not going to some in here and lie. the fact is I'm money hungry and there's nothing I wouldn't do for that sort of money APART from killing someone I know.
setanta
15-12-2009, 01:54 AM
well sorry honey but I'm not going to some in here and lie. the fact is I'm money hungry and there's nothing I wouldn't do for that sort of money APART from killing someone I know.
Oh, you've put me in a festive mood after that last comment.
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MrGaryy
15-12-2009, 02:02 AM
ROFL. I like your style.
setanta
15-12-2009, 02:09 AM
ROFL. I like your style.
As much as I would like to, considering the month that's in it and all, I can't reciprocate.
Sticks
15-12-2009, 08:00 AM
The way Enid comes across in this thread and starting it, was that they were a high class spammer trying to promote the new release of the film The Box (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0362478/)
Tell us that this is not so.
Niamh.
15-12-2009, 10:32 AM
The way Enid comes across in this thread and starting it, was that they were a high class spammer trying to promote the new release of the film The Box (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0362478/)
Tell us that this is not so.
Well, where ever the question came from, it was a very interesting topic none the less sticks!
lily.
15-12-2009, 01:57 PM
The subject is definitely similar to the plotline of the movie, and to be honest, if it were a random new member who started the topic, I'd be inclined to say it was related to the film, but Enid has been a member here for some time and posts all over the place in various topics, so I'm thinking you would be wrong Graeme.
InOne
15-12-2009, 02:04 PM
Enid just wanted to see how many sickos were acutally on this forum lol
Kidding Enid :tongue:
Crimson Dynamo
15-12-2009, 02:07 PM
i think the "push the button" replies tend to be from younger folks who have less dependants, responsibility and have less familiarity with death/mortality?
InOne
15-12-2009, 02:08 PM
Hmmmm i'll admit I don't have too many commitments.
Niamh.
15-12-2009, 02:15 PM
i think the "push the button" replies tend to be from younger folks who have less dependants, responsibility and have less familiarity with death/mortality?
Yeah, you could be right there, the first thing I thought of was, I mightn't know the person who dies but they're somebodies child!
lily.
15-12-2009, 02:16 PM
We're mothers Niamh. We view the world differently than we did before we had children.
Niamh.
15-12-2009, 02:18 PM
We're mothers Niamh. We view the world differently than we did before we had children.
absolutely! everything revolves around your kids and making sure they're safe so I think most parents would think about the fact that they would be killing someones baby in that situation
Crimson Dynamo
15-12-2009, 02:29 PM
amen to that
Beastie
15-12-2009, 02:37 PM
Interesting answers! Sticks, what would you do in this position?
The way Enid comes across in this thread and starting it, was that they were a high class spammer trying to promote the new release of the film The Box (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0362478/)
Tell us that this is not so.
You couldn't be more wrong, Sticks.
Glad this thread is still alive and kicking.
WOMBAI
15-12-2009, 03:38 PM
I don't need to look cool for anyone. I might feel that way about that situation, but it's not like i'm going to go murder a child or something, i'm not all bad.
I didn't mean you - you don't strike me as one of the very young ones! You certainly haven't said things in the offensive way many others have!
WOMBAI
15-12-2009, 03:40 PM
well sorry honey but I'm not going to some in here and lie. the fact is I'm money hungry and there's nothing I wouldn't do for that sort of money APART from killing someone I know.
Earning it is the best way honey!
Beastie
19-12-2009, 03:45 AM
Oh it is here in serious debates :D
Beastie
19-12-2009, 03:47 AM
I didn't mean you - you don't strike me as one of the very young ones! You certainly haven't said things in the offensive way many others have!
A bit patronising? "Very young ones"
I can see why people with kids would NOT press the button. I probs would'nt if I had children. However it is the 10,000 chance thing that got to me so I kind of thought... might as well take the risk? It all depends really on atmosphere, where and when would this "red button" thing happen.
Beastie
19-12-2009, 03:48 AM
Earning it is the best way honey!
It is but most people would like a bit of "pot luck"
Beastie
19-12-2009, 03:49 AM
Sticks has not answered if he would press the button or not.. I really wanted to know his answer. lol
Sticks
19-12-2009, 06:01 AM
No because to press it would be deliberate murder
Dr.Gonzo
19-12-2009, 08:13 AM
I don't get on with a lot of my family :)
But no, because I love my missus and my mam. I'd push it if it only killed wasps. I hate wasps.
WOMBAI
19-12-2009, 09:09 AM
well sorry honey but I'm not going to some in here and lie. the fact is I'm money hungry and there's nothing I wouldn't do for that sort of money APART from killing someone I know.
You either have to be incredibly immature to make a comment like that or you have psychological problems and are a potential murderer. That is what it boils down to. You are saying that if someone offered you enough money - you would intentionally kill someone you didn't know! I don't think you have any comprehension of what you are actually saying. Would help if people actually put their brain into gear before opening their mouths.
MeMyselfAndI
19-12-2009, 09:10 AM
I would press it 100 times
WOMBAI
19-12-2009, 09:12 AM
I would press it 100 times
Either a 10 year-old or a potential murderer with no brain cells! I wonder which? Ha,ha :joker:
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