Joe or RATM?

[Jords]

Who would you rather have as 2009's Christmas number 1, Joe McElderry with The Climb, or Rage Against The Machine with Killing in the Name?

Thought Id make a poll as it seems to be a red hot discussion :laugh:

[danda012]

No offence to Joe or anything but I'd rather see a non-X Factor number one for a change. They have dominated the xmas charts for several years. About time someone else got a shot at number 1 even if it's only for 1 week.

[Enid]

A Christmas no.1 should be a Christmas song, but as I hate the X Factor and hate Miley Cyrus, I voted RATM.

[Ramsay]

RATM
by far

[Patrick]

No offence to Joe or anything but I'd rather see a non-X Factor number one for a change. They have dominated the xmas charts for several years. About time someone else got a shot at number 1 even if it's only for 1 week.

NO
Because its NOT Fair, if Joe goes to #1 which he will, it will be because he was voted the winner of Britains most famous talent show.

Why the hell should these idiots go to #1 with an old song, just because they woke up one day and decided they wanted more money.

Bitter, and I for one would rather see an XF Act or a complete diffrent artist being Christmas #1 for the right reasons than these selfish old bastards.

RATM Fail
Joe FTW

[King Gizzard]

Ratm.

[_Seth]

No offence to Joe or anything but I'd rather see a non-X Factor number one for a change. They have dominated the xmas charts for several years. About time someone else got a shot at number 1 even if it's only for 1 week.

That's a stupid and unfair reason.

I voted Joe.

[Raph]

Joe <3

[King Gizzard]

It's a valid reason, it's just that you don't share it so you call it stupid and unfair. lol

[InOne]

Joe <3

Lizzie McGuire would not be happy.

[danda012]

NO
Because its NOT Fair, if Joe goes to #1 which he will, it will be because he was voted the winner of Britains most famous talent show.

Why the hell should these idiots go to #1 with an old song, just because they woke up one day and decided they wanted more money.

Bitter, and I for one would rather see an XF Act or a complete diffrent artist being Christmas #1 for the right reasons than these selfish old bastards.

RATM Fail
Joe FTW

I only gave my opinion and I respect your opinion too.

However, 95% of all the X Factor first singles are all covers. So technically THEY are also releasing old songs too only sung by a different artist. The song chosen by the Facebook group founders probably wasn't a great choice and would have been better if as Enid said it was an actual Xmas song but oh well.

[Twilight]

Joe

[30stone]

Joe!

Not a real fan of him BUT

Rage against the machine really? lets have rock as christmas number 1 thats so much better...

[teabag.]

RATM, i don't even like the song just i think it would be really funny if it beat x factor for once

[MrGaryy]

NO
Because its NOT Fair, if Joe goes to #1 which he will, it will be because he was voted the winner of Britains most famous talent show.

Why the hell should these idiots go to #1 with an old song, just because they woke up one day and decided they wanted more money.

Bitter, and I for one would rather see an XF Act or a complete diffrent artist being Christmas #1 for the right reasons than these selfish old bastards.

RATM Fail
Joe FTW

my God you are you angry little boy aren't you? for the record, RATM have zero to do with the campaign it was started by some guy on FB who launched a similar one last year.

and I'd rather see Rage #1 to answer the OP.

[Callum]

Rage Against the Machine.

[Shaun]

neither, tbh.

[_Seth]

It's a valid reason, it's just that you don't share it so you call it stupid and unfair. lol

It is a valid reason. Who cares where he came from it's a good song so meh. Unfair that just because he's from Xfactor his song shouldn't be #1

[30stone]

Band Aid 1984 - Various
Happy Xmas (war is over) - John and Yoko
Fairy tale of new york - Pogues
I believe in father christmas - Greg Lake
Merry Christmas everyone - Slade

Any of them.
Should be one of them brought back, not some random guy on facebook who likes rock and just decides a rock song should be christmas number 1.

[LemonJam]

To be honest I don't care, the Christmas number 1 has never been an award for being musically superior.

I prefer Killing in the Name of as a song though so I guess that.

[Scarlett.]

RATM, Miley Cyrus songs should never be heard

[Stacey.]

Joe! :)
its only fair

[CaraRawr]

Joe, he deserves it! <3

[mizzy25]

joe i have never even heard of ragm or wotever they r called and ive never heard their song either

[Niamh.]

I'm not going to buy either of them but I like the RATM song more

[Wildcat!]

It looks pretty neck and neck in here. :)
Undoubtedly I prefer Joe. I just think RATM being closed to #1, is manufactured! Its not real. HOwever you feel about the "xfactor machine", I think it has happened naturally. The first or second singles of xfactor, didnt get to #1. But after that, they did, because the show was embraced and loved by a lot of people in the UK, and I am one of them. SO I think its only natural, that the xfactor gets the christmas #1. I hate it, that people always try to tear down a popular show, and this campaign, is the first step towards that1

[danda012]

joe i have never even heard of ragm or wotever they r called and ive never heard their song either

If you have played GTA: San Andreas, it's on the radio on that game. A section also plays during unsucessful dates on the same game.

[danda012]

It looks pretty neck and neck in here. Undoubtedly I prefer Joe, I just think RATM being closed to #1, is manuactured! Its not real. HOwever you feel about xfactor getting to #1, I think it has happened naturally. The first or second singles of xfactor, didnt get to #1, but subsequently, they did, because the show was embrassed and loved my a lot of people in the UK, and I am one of them. SO I think its only natural, that the xfactor gets the christmas #1.

The first winner was the only one which didn't get to number 1. Steve was beating by Band Aid 20 (charitable cause though) after he won the first series of the show.

[Wildcat!]

Thanks for the info danda. I didnt know that! :)

I just dont want to see the show lose popularity, and get cancelled, because all of a sudden it becomes "cool", to hate on the xfactor single. Just like what happen with BB. Because I know pretty much eveyone on this site, like BB, or they wouldnt even be here.

But thats whats gonna happen, if people keep supporting these "Haterade" campaigns. :)

[Crimson Dynamo]

Joe

I dig the idea of a sort of protest song beating the x-factor mush but not those utter gimps ratm and that shouty crap song

[andyman]

****** you i won't do what you tell me!

[MarkWaldorf]

Steve did go to number one, just not at Christmas.

[danda012]

Steve did go to number one, just not at Christmas.

That's what i meant. He didn't get the Christmas number 1 spot.

[Firewire]

Joe

[Chels]

If you have played GTA: San Andreas, it's on the radio on that game. A section also plays during unsucessful dates on the same game.

the "******* you I won't do what you tell me" bit? :L
ah i didn't know what the song was but i do now.

Anyway Joe ftw <3

[andyman]

****** you i won't do what you tell me!
****** you i won't do what you tell me!

[InOne]

the "******* you I won't do what you tell me" bit? :L
ah i didn't know what the song was but i do now.

Anyway Joe ftw <3

Probably a bit too wild for you, dear.

[Chels]

Probably a bit too wild for you, dear.

Nah it's just ****.

[InOne]

Nah it's just ****.

Just like Joe then.

[Tom4784]

I'd say RATM but I just can't be bothered with either. I'm not bothered who wins.

[andyman]

Nah it's just ****.****.. Joe's song that he has to sing due to selling his lil geordie soul to Mr Cowell..

****** you i won't do what you tell me!

[Chels]

Just like Joe then.

Funnily enough the majority of Britain doesn't agree with you. :hugesmile:

[Chels]

****.. Joe's song that he has to sing due to selling his lil geordie soul to Mr Cowell..

****** you i won't do what you tell me!

I agree the winners song is a load of wank but Joe isn't + deserves to get to number one <3

[InOne]

Funnily enough the majority of Britain doesn't agree with you. :hugesmile:

Funnily enough they are all idiots for lapping it up. You'll learn one day. (Maybe)

[Chels]

Funnily enough they are all idiots for lapping it up. You'll learn one day. (Maybe)
Again, 19 million of the population doesn't agree with you :P

[danda012]

Again, 19 million of the population doesn't agree with you :P

Out of the 19 million viewers do you really think all 19 million WANTED Joe to win?

[andyman]

Same idiots voted that blonde bitch to win BB10, oh and last CBB..

Rise of the ******ing idiots!

[InOne]

Again, 19 million of the population doesn't agree with you :P

Well at least there is more than 19 million people in the UK, and they probably have sense.

[Chels]

Out of the 19 million viewers do you really think all 19 million WANTED Joe to win?

No read InOne's post properly.
He said in a different way that they're idiots for actually paying attention to the X Factor.

[andyman]

Again, 19 million of the population doesn't agree with you :PInvalid post!

19m watched... WATCHEDEDED!

[Chels]

Invalid post!

19m watched... WATCHEDEDED!

That's what I said!!! :L

[InOne]

No read InOne's post properly.
He said in a different way that they're idiots for actually paying attention to the X Factor.

That many can't have been paying attention if Joe won!!!

KABOOOOOM

[Chels]

That many can't have been paying attention if Joe won!!!

KABOOOOOM

:L
Well he won with the highest winning percentage of TXF history so

KABOOOOOM backatcha ;)

[InOne]

:L
Well he won with the highest winning percentage of TXF history so

KABOOOOOM backatcha ;)

They will have all been drunk by that point my dear.

KABOOOOOM

[Chels]

They will have all been drunk by that point my dear.

KABOOOOOM

On a Sunday night?
and i wasn't drunk so not everybody was :P

[andyman]

I'm gonna beat Chels with a stick!

[Chels]

I'm gonna beat Chels with a stick!

I'll beat you with a wet newspaperrrr.

[Teji]

This is the worst

Rage against the machine

These 2 are the best

Rage against the *****ers
Rage against your mom

[InOne]

On a Sunday night?
and i wasn't drunk so not everybody was :P

Sunday afternoon everyone goes to the pub, they would have stumbled in for X Factor and thought, "Hahaha look that guys accent is hillarious, lets vote for him" That is how you have you winner, pissed Southerners!!!

[Chels]

Sunday afternoon everyone goes to the pub, they would have stumbled in for X Factor and thought, "Hahaha look that guys accent is hillarious, lets vote for him" That is how you have you winner, pissed Southerners!!!

Lol ok :p

[andyman]

Oh Chels is from Wales...

[InOne]

Oh Chels is from Wales...

Yes it pretty much says it all.

[Chels]

Wtf has that got to do with anything? :bored:

[andyman]

Wtf has that got to do with anything? :bored:We know it aint your fault.

[InOne]

Wtf has that got to do with anything? :bored:

:hug:

[WOMBAI]

Definitely Joe!

[Jords]

I prefer Joe, cant stand metal, although the more I hear it played the more easy on the ears it has become.

[Tom]

:L
Well he won with the highest winning percentage of TXF history so

KABOOOOOM backatcha ;)

Psychic are we?

Series 1 and 3 percentages were never revealed, the closest we got in series 3 was "roughly 60/40", roughly being the operative word

[InOne]

Definitely Joe!

I thought you'd be against the idiocy of the X Factor!!!

[WOMBAI]

I thought you'd be against the idiocy of the X Factor!!!

I like to watch some of the more talented performers - and I think Joe is good! Don't like all the overrated hype though!

[InOne]

I like to watch some of the more talented performers - and I think Joe is good! Don't like all the overrated hype though!

Well are you not against X Factor getting Christmas #1 every year?

[Jords]

From what Ive heard of Wambai, hes happy as long as the person has talent, which is respectable.

[InOne]

From what Ive heard of Wambai, hes happy as long as the person has talent, which is respectable.

WOMBAI is a feisty female.

[Jords]

WOMBAI is a feisty female.

I was debating if I should but he or she, so I put he and hoped for the best :laugh: I was wrong :/

Sorry Wombai ma'am :)

[GypsyGoth]

I think Joe wold be a better xmas number 1. I'm not too fond of the whole RATM campaign.

[InOne]

I think Joe wold be a better xmas number 1. I'm not too fond of the whole RATM campaign.

Bad song choice, but i'd prefer it to be RATM

[Jords]

I think Joe wold be a better xmas number 1. I'm not too fond of the whole RATM campaign.

I think it is wrong if the people taking part watch the show and enjoy it, in a way.

Also RATM would be horrible for a xmas number 1, but I understand they chose this for the rebellion side of it.

But, The Pogues would make a much better number 1 imo :hugesmile:

[InOne]

RATM would stop the X Factor which would be good, might make it fail next year :)

[WOMBAI]

Well are you not against X Factor getting Christmas #1 every year?

I would be if it was Jedward or someone equally untalented! I know what you are saying - there is a lot I don't like about the show - including lining Mr Cowells pockets - but I like Joe and would like to see him do well. The record becoming No. 1 won't make a lot of difference to his already very deep pockets. Like anything else - the show's appeal will eventually wear thin - and Mr Cowell will most likely be forgotten about. Just a matter of time!

[DrunkerThanMoses]

Tbh RATM, as I didnt really liek Joe, so.....

[GypsyGoth]

RATM would stop the X Factor which would be good, might make it fail next year :)

But I like the xfactor, I look forward to saturday and sunday when it is on. And there is nothing to replace it.

That is why I don't get this RATM thing, people are spending their money on a single just to spoil the enjoyment others get out of the xfactor. I didn't support Joe during the show, but in this I am behind him.

[Raph]

Joe <3

[Tom]

I think Joe wold be a better xmas number 1. I'm not too fond of the whole RATM campaign.

I don't like the RATM campaign either, I think the song is shocking, but maybe if it does get number 1 and another campaign starts again next year, Simon might start to rethink when he releases the winners single. Perhaps he should go for new year number 1.

[InOne]

I would be if it was Jedward or someone equally untalented! I know what you are saying - there is a lot I don't like about the show - including lining Mr Cowells pockets - but I like Joe and would like to see him do well. The record becoming No. 1 won't make a lot of difference to his already very deep pockets. Like anything else - the show's appeal will eventually wear thin - and Mr Cowell will most likely be forgotten about. Just a matter of time!

Joe could have have his time anytime,why take away the Christmas Number 1, which used to be quite an exciting thing in the UK! Now we practically know who it's going to be, and it's not even a Christmas song!! It's a shame and you know it.

[danda012]

Joe could have have his time anytime,why take away the Christmas Number 1, which used to be quite an exciting thing in the UK! Now we practically know who it's going to be, and it's not even a Christmas song!! It's a shame and you know it.

Yup I remember the days when we used to think "what will be xmas no.1 this year" but nowadays whoever wins X Factor is pretty much guarenteed a number 1 at Christmas with a cover of a non-xmas song. Most winners seem to vanish after a year (most notable exception of this is Leona Lewis who is still big).

[InOne]

But I like the xfactor, I look forward to saturday and sunday when it is on. And there is nothing to replace it.

That is why I don't get this RATM thing, people are spending their money on a single just to spoil the enjoyment others get out of the xfactor. I didn't support Joe during the show, but in this I am behind him.

Yes, but someone better could always replace it, channels are quite good at making you forget other programmes existed. It's not spoiling the enjoyment of anyone, it's stopping X Factor killing the music industry, which surely you can agree with?

[Jords]

I agree with the whole 'we know its going to be the XF winner as xmas no.1' and the fact it is not exciting to wonder who'll get it and that the single isnt even a xmas song.

I think they should move the show backwards a few weeks, or have it start in January time.

[InOne]

Yup I remember the days when we used to think "what will be xmas no.1 this year" but nowadays whoever wins X Factor is pretty much guarenteed a number 1 at Christmas with a cover of a non-xmas song. Most winners seem to vanish after a year (most notable exception of this is Leona Lewis who is still big).

Indeed, it's the kids who are missing out really, I could not care less, but this is all they will know and expect.

[GypsyGoth]

Yes, but someone better could always replace it, channels are quite good at making you forget other programmes existed. It's not spoiling the enjoyment of anyone, it's stopping X Factor killing the music industry, which surely you can agree with?

I don't think it is killing the music industry, it is just changing it.

RATM will just spend the money they get from this on drugs probably, if it was Peter Kay's Animated All Star Band, then at least people would know they were helping someone.

Also I'm sure a lot of stars and groups got their breaks on talent shows, even minor local ones, it seems that because xfactor is a massive talent show that some people object to it.

Anyway, I don't really care about xfactor always getting the xmas number one. And I'm sure it will change one year.

But to try and change it out of spite doesn't seem very christmassy at all.

[Stephanie]

ratm said they would give the royalties they get from this to charity.

[GypsyGoth]

ratm said they would give the royalties they get from this to charity.

I didn't know that.

[Jords]

RATM is actually number 1 on itunes at the moment

[King Gizzard]

It wasnt even RATM who set the campaign up anyway, and theyre getting all the **** from it.

it was some dude on facebook who done a similar thing last year

i hope it does well

[Stephanie]

they have apparently sold 65,000 more copies than joe so far.

[Jack_]

It's a ****ing awful song (LOL can't stop with the ****s now), and Joe deserves it.

I got Joe's physical single today, as I'm expecting the majority of people would've too. We'll have more of an idea by tomorrow and Friday.

[30stone]

Hopefully it doesnt get number 1.

Would be an absolutely horrible number 1.

[Stephanie]

i think joe will get most of his sales from today as people like to buy stuff on the first day.

[Princess]

A girl I asked in HMV today said Joe's single was selling really well,although that makes no difference to you lot does it,cos there's different charts :P

[King Gizzard]

this has been said a million times but it hasnt hit home yet


yes its a horrible song (and this is coming from an RATM fan) but its not about the song its about the lyric, ''**** you im not going to do what you tell me''

[Jords]

Im not blaming RATM Nate, I think the campaign itself is stupid, but woah they have a great shot at being number 1, just depends how Joes single CD goes now!

[Jords]

this has been said a million times but it hasnt hit home yet


yes its a horrible song (and this is coming from an RATM fan) but its not about the song its about the lyric, ''**** you im not going to do what you tell me''

I see why this song was chosen now - never knew these were the lyrics!

[InOne]

I don't think it is killing the music industry, it is just changing it.

RATM will just spend the money they get from this on drugs probably, if it was Peter Kay's Animated All Star Band, then at least people would know they were helping someone.

Also I'm sure a lot of stars and groups got their breaks on talent shows, even minor local ones, it seems that because xfactor is a massive talent show that some people object to it.

Anyway, I don't really care about xfactor always getting the xmas number one. And I'm sure it will change one year.

But to try and change it out of spite doesn't seem very christmassy at all.

It's not always, but the last few years. And yes, it's not the ideal song, but saying they will spend all the money on drugs? Come on. And it is changing the music industry for the worse!!! People do not appreciate real bands or atrists these days, they like they shiny ones they see on X Factor. Claudia, you are a lover or music, and I know you don't want to see them take over. I can't believe how much the British public has got into this idea, yes there is entertainment, but why let it spoil talents that could have been? Because I bet alot of unfound talent has been trodden on, cos of the X Factor empire.

[setanta]

Come on RATM, win this war for us and topple the stranglehold that the X Factor has on the public, with Simon being able to do as he pleases - releasing pitiful covers time and again - safe in the knowledge that the public will lap it up, like a bunch of frenzied zombies.

[GypsyGoth]

It's not always, but the last few years. And yes, it's not the ideal song, but saying they will spend all the money on drugs? Come on. And it is changing the music industry for the worse!!! People do not appreciate real bands or atrists these days, they like they shiny ones they see on X Factor. Claudia, you are a lover or music, and I know you don't want to see them take over. I can't believe how much the British public has got into this idea, yes there is entertainment, but why let it spoil talents that could have been? Because I bet alot of unfound talent has been trodden on, cos of the X Factor empire.

I apologise for the drug comment, it was wrong.

I do love a lot music, as many on this forum do. But I think the xfactor is just another form of pop, still there is great indie music being made and great artists being signed.

It is possible that xfactor is not great for helping new talent, I don't know enough about it really, but it is also possible that the next generation of singers will have been inspired by xfactor.

[DrunkerThanMoses]

Any news with the cd out today?

[InOne]

I apologise for the drug comment, it was wrong.

I do love a lot music, as many on this forum do. But I think the xfactor is just another form of pop, still there is great indie music being made and great artists being signed.

It is possible that xfactor is not great for helping new talent, I don't know enough about it really, but it is also possible that the next generation of singers will have been inspired by xfactor.

That is the thing, I don't mind them being inspired by X Factor, it is just what X Factor has become!!! Sending shiney new artists out, so the nuclear family can eat them up, you know what it is about. It is not what we want in music, if that it is what it has become then it is a real shame and you know it.

[atieah2009]

RATM, the song. Don't give two ***** about X-Factor being no.1.

[red]

Joe! :)
its only fair

why is it fair?

[Jords]

Its yet again back on a draw! Very close on TiBB who they want as no.1 :tongue:

[Alf]

simon wins whatever the result
http://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/view/113030/SIMON-COWELL-S-XTRA-FACTOR/

[LemonJam]

Muppets.

[johnx]

Why did Cowell choose a Miley Cyrus song thats already been released this year? And what a pile of cack it is.Last year Cowell decided to do somethin a bit classier as Peter Kaye's "Britians Got The Pop Factor" show ripped the piss outta those horrible talent show songs.Now he's returned to the formula of having a journey etc. with this saccharin crap.If you like it,I pity you.

[WOMBAI]

Joe can sing anything and make anything sound good! For me - it has much more to do with his voice - than the song itself!

[InOne]

Joe can sing anything and make anything sound good! For me - it has much more to do with his voice - than the song itself!

There is nothing really special about him though, he's ridiculously plain.

[Stu]

That's the thing that's bugging me. He is too bland to even be hateable. I feel robbed.

[johnx]

"Killing in the Name of" is an absoloutely stormin tune-shows these rock pretenders around now how it should be done.

[johnx]

if rage against the machine is no1 i will commit suicide

Now thats commitment.Bit extreme,but shows def. commitment.

[Stu]

if rage against the machine is no1 i will commit suicide
That's just about the biggest boost you could give to the campaign.

Buy this single now, folks.

[Stu]

To what, ze Germans?

[Stu]

But if it wins you will commit suicide?

Wow, your raising all sorts of interesting paradoxes.

[Ramsay]

i will kill anyone who buys this crap

ive bought it

[Stephanie]

ratm are still beating joe
at 12pm i think, rage had sold 253,000 and joe had sold sold 216,000
oo

[Ramsay]

Joe the shneaky ****er will probably get it:bawling:

[Ramsay]

:laugh:

[Tom]

its not about the song its about the lyric, ''**** you im not going to do what you tell me''

So I'll buy a song because someone on Facebook told me to?

[Stu]

I thought we went over this a dozens of times before. It's such a tired non-argument. How on earth would the campaign have worked if everybody bought a different single? It was necessary to do it the way it was done.

[Tom]

I thought we went over this a dozens of times before. It's such a tired non-argument. How on earth would the campaign have worked if everybody bought a different single? It was necessary to do it the way it was done.

Maybe if they picked a song that was a) christmassy and b) more likable then it would work

Its just an ironic song for the campaign, plus its actually worse than Joes

[Stu]

Seems to be working fine so far.

[Stephanie]

okay new figures,

RAGE 306115, JOE 297192

[DrunkerThanMoses]

:( God hes getting closer... bugger

[Stephanie]

ratm has done amazing to hold the lead while joe's single has been out for 2 days..

[DrunkerThanMoses]

COme on r.a.t.m

[30stone]

Maybe if they picked a song that was a) christmassy and b) more likable then it would work

Its just an ironic song for the campaign, plus its actually worse than Joes

Agreed.

Everyone just buys a song most people dont even like because they want to beat x factor.

But joes song is a bit better and more christmassy sounding, so i would prefer it getting number 1.
Makes me want to buy joes single just to help it get number 1 now.

Would be such a **** christmas number 1, a old not very good song.

[30stone]

Fairytale of new york - the Pogues is 18th in the chart
All i want for christmas - Mariah carey is 17th in the chart
Last christmas - Wham is 39th in the chart.

3 christmas songs already charted last week, and everyone listens to some (probable) loser on face book trying to get a poor rock song to number one..

Think next year i might start it before this bloke.

[Stu]

You go girl.

[Marc]

Rage fans... ******* off yeh?

You wont do this for every X Factor contestants song now leave poor Joe alone let him get his x mas no.1

[Niamh.]

I prefer the RATM song and they're donating the money they make from it to charity so I hope they get No.1

[Stu]

Rage fans... ******* off yeh?

You wont do this for every X Factor contestants song now leave poor Joe alone let him get his x mas no.1
Fack off with your logic. Let him get his number one?

That's it. I want one next year.

[Niamh.]

Even if Joe only makes No.2 he'll still end up with more sales of the single than If he'd got to No.1 with no protest campaign

[Tom4784]

He's only a few thousand behind now, He'll be number 1 by tommorow. I do feel a little bad for Joe as he's a nice chap but It's Simon's fault, If he changed things up once in a while people wouldn't be so tired of the X Factor getting Christmas Number 1.

[Niamh.]

He's only a few thousand behind now, He'll be number 1 by tommorow. I do feel a little bad for Joe as he's a nice chap but It's Simon's fault, If he changed things up once in a while people wouldn't be so tired of the X Factor getting Christmas Number 1.

probably yeah atleast it's not so predictable this year anyway!

[Tom4784]

probably yeah atleast it's not so predictable this year anyway!

Yeah, It's been very interesting to watch unfold.

Next year he should pick a different song for each finalist which suits their style instead of having one generic song, Good talent show songs can be done look at 'Sound of the Underground'. Simon's just been lazy, if the song was decent there would not be as much hate for the X Factor.

[Niamh.]

Yeah, It's been very interesting to watch unfold.

Next year he should pick a different song for each finalist which suits their style instead of having one generic song, Good talent show songs can be done look at 'Sound of the Underground'. Simon's just been lazy, if the song was decent there would not be as much hate for the X Factor.

That's true actually, and that's a much better idea. That's my Goal was a good song I think and I didn't know it either, I mean Miley Cyrus only released the Climb herself this year, it's pure laziness on Simons part

[Marc]

Fack off with your logic. Let him get his number one?

That's it. I want one next year.

Well you go for it lad! But you wont get it cos you probably can't sing. Joe can and its WHAT HAPPENS when someone wins the x factor. Get over it :)

[Marc]

Yeah, It's been very interesting to watch unfold.

Next year he should pick a different song for each finalist which suits their style instead of having one generic song, Good talent show songs can be done look at 'Sound of the Underground'. Simon's just been lazy, if the song was decent there would not be as much hate for the X Factor.

This is exactly what I said!
Either that or it should be a xmas song, fit more into the season!

[Stu]

Well you go for it lad! But you wont get it cos you probably can't sing. Joe can and its WHAT HAPPENS when someone wins the x factor. Get over it :)
It's not WHAT HAPPENS. The charts dont have scripts sweetie. Anything can happen. The X-Factor does not automatically deserve to have #1.

[Marc]

It's not WHAT HAPPENS. The charts dont have scripts sweetie. Anything can happen. The X-Factor does not automatically deserve to have #1.

But it always happens. Sweetie? wtf.. go away if your going to start calling me sweetie. Patronising people doesn't get your point across any clearer.

No body is wrong. Its become a generic thing now for the X Factor winner to be Xmas No.1 However its all down to the public and if RATM get to No.1 thats purely because of the public.

[danda012]

It would be nice if they rather than almost always releasing a cover for xmas write a new song (possibly individual or generic whichever is easier). Originality in the songs never hurts.

[Marc]

It would be nice if they rather than almost always releasing a cover for xmas write a new song (possibly individual or generic whichever is easier). Originality in the songs never hurts.

Like the Fame Academy finalists. :)

[Stephanie]

fame academy was the best

[Marc]

fame academy was the best

It really was :lovedup:

[Stu]

But it always happens. Sweetie? wtf.. go away if your going to start calling me sweetie. Patronising people doesn't get your point across any clearer.

No body is wrong. Its become a generic thing now for the X Factor winner to be Xmas No.1 However its all down to the public and if RATM get to No.1 thats purely because of the public.
Well yeah, that's what I'm trying to tell you. You were acting as if the X-Factor had an automatic right to be #1.

[NettoSuperstar!]

Fame Academy was borin...mekkin out theyre a cut above...same old tripe...I mean I love watchin the X factor but dont make out yer summat special talentwise

[danda012]

Like the Fame Academy finalists. :)

Yea or from Popstars: The Rivals. Girls Aloud topped the Xmas chart with an ORIGINAL song rather than a typical cover that most seem to do nowadays.

[Jords]

I loved Fame Academy a lot!

[Tom]

Seems to be working fine so far.

Not in Ireland it isn't, and with Joe now out physically ...

[andyman]

Fek Joe! Fek the Christmas number one!

.. We need Top of the Pops back on a Friday at 8pm... FFS!

[NettoSuperstar!]

Come on people, with hope in our hearts and the spirit of Christmas running through our veins we can do this! Lock and Load, lets blow X factor out the water!!....29p from Amazon

[Braden]

i think both songs are ****,
but i would rather have joe at number one

[NettoSuperstar!]

http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?ref=profile&id=1270171068#/pages/RAGE-AGAINST-THE-MACHINE-FOR-CHRISTMAS-NO1/197877130755?ref=mf

[Stacey.]

come on, admit it! :)
joe DOES deserve this :D
go joe,, go joe! :D:D

[InOne]

only an idiot can buy rage against the ma****ingchine

Hey

































































Die soon :)

[Stacey.]

sum1 slap him

Don`t bother about Joe!!
hes crazyy:crazy:
In a little world of his own!

[InOne]

Don`t bother about Joe!!
hes crazyy:crazy:
In a little world of his own!

Shush Courtney or i'll kill Jedward.

[Stacey.]

Shush Courtney or i'll kill Jedward.

Dontt speak like that... youre sick

[Stacey.]

speak 2 urself

i was standing up for you:bawling:

[InOne]

Dontt speak like that... youre sick

Indeed, so unless you don't want the headlines to be 'Dedward' I'd zip it. :)

[Stacey.]

Indeed, so unless you don't want the headlines to be 'Dedward' I'd zip it. :)

Stop it joe. seriouslyy.:bawling:
this IS the hate campaign whole SICK thingg.
why are you acting like thiss?

[Stephanie]

pmsl

[InOne]

Stop it joe. seriouslyy.:bawling:
this IS the hate campaign whole SICK thingg.
why are you acting like thiss?

I'm joking Courtney chill out lol

[Stacey.]

I'm joking Courtney chill out lol

ohh,sorry.
You seem to get pretty violent sometimes:joker:

[InOne]

ohh,sorry.
You seem to get pretty violent sometimes:joker:

;)

[Jords]

RATM got it!!

[WOMBAI]

RATM got it!!

By default only!

[Niamh.]

v6M_IYPUWd8

[Jordan.]

v6M_IYPUWd8

:joker: they had this vid on the news xD

[Niamh.]

lol, was it??? oh didn't see that, funny though especially the SuBo bit!!

[Stacey.]

Ohhh, joe,,we love you <3
:lovedup: You are WAY better than those. :D
And ALWAYS will be in my eyes :D

[red]

I voted for RATM