McElderry: 'Rage track is dreadful'

[Locke.]

Joe McElderry has criticised Rage Against The Machine's track 'Killing In The Name'.

The X Factor winner, whose debut single 'The Climb' was released earlier this week, is currently involved in a chart battle for the Christmas number one after a Facebook group started a campaign for the rock band to reach the top spot.

After hearing the song for the first time, McElderry told The Sun: "They can't be serious! I had no idea what it sounded like. It's dreadful and I hate it. How can anyone enjoy this? Can you imagine the grandmas (sic) hearing this over Christmas lunch?"

McElderry added that he wouldn't buy the single and continued: "It's a nought out of ten from me. Simon Cowell wouldn't like it. They wouldn't get through to boot camp on The X Factor - they're just shouting."

However, the 18-year-old also claimed that he wasn't upset by the campaign.

"I think people are jumping on this to have a go at Simon and The X Factor rather than me," he said. "But Simon gives people a shot.

"I will be really disappointed if ['The Climb'] doesn't get to number one after all the effort I've put in to this and winning the show."

http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/xfactor/news/a192089/mcelderry-rage-track-is-dreadful.html

I agree with him really, just sounds like shouting to me an is a load of crap. But don't like his song either, so... don't really care who gets #1.

[Enid]

Bad move Joe. Baaaaad bad move.

[Stacey.]

not a good thing to say :/

[Chels]

Umg he shudda kept his mouth shut there.

[King Gizzard]

I think he has just given RATM more sales

[lily.]

He speaks the truth. It's far from RATMs best work to be fair.

[Enid]

He is slating a classic rock song and has just come across as an ignorant little boy. Adding fuel to the fire. Carry on Joe. :D

[King Gizzard]

And say it again

Its not about the song its about the lyrics!

[Stephanie]

more sales for ratm

[Jack_]

He's right though, but still a bad thing to say.

[Stu]

Joe just demonstrated the biggest downfall of the X-Factor. It's just singing. Having a good singing voice is not the be all and end all. What matters is character. If RATM is just shouting, can we assume rap and hip hop is just talking?

[Enid]

Well sometimes honesty is not the best policy.

[Enid]

Joe just demonstrated the biggest downfall of the X-Factor. It's just singing. Having a good singing voice is not the be all and end all. What matters is character. If RATM is just shouting, can we assume rap and hip hop is just talking?
Yes, and bearing in mind they are also musicians.

[lily.]

The main difference between us and Joe is that we can voice our opinions without any backlash. He should have PR people making sure he doesn't do that. He is famous now, and can no longer voice opinions without some kind of repercussions. That's just how it is. He will have to take the good with the bad I'm afraid.

[Enid]

I'd say it is also stupidity on his part. Slating a rival with many supporters is not tactful at all, lol.

[_Seth]

Why the hell should he hide his opinion? I agree with him, when I first heard it I thought I had the wrong song or something.

If people like RATM, it will be Christmas #1 and should just think "meh, fair enough if he doesn't like it" and get on with their lives.

[Tom]

He's right.

[Enid]

Why the hell should he hide his opinion? I agree with him, when I first heard it I thought I had the wrong song or something.

If people like RATM, it will be Christmas #1 and should just think "meh, fair enough if he doesn't like it" and get on with their lives.
Because it's not good for his reputation or image.

If he had said "bring it on, may the best man win", it would of been a lot more respectable. Openly slating a band/song like that is enough to tarnish a reputation and as he's only just been thrown out into the limelight, saying all the right things is VERY important.

[Stacey.]

i have to agree with him here,, but just SO the wrong thing to say!! :/
Jooeeeee!!!!!

[_Seth]

Because it's not good for his reputation or image.

If he had said "bring it on, may the best man win", it would of been a lot more respectable. Openly slating a band/song like that is enough to tarnish a reputation and as he's only just been thrown out into the limelight, saying all the right things is VERY important.

I know but it's not fair that since now he's famouse he must censore his opinions. He's gonna get more hate from saying that because he's famous, while if a random BB contestant for example said that, no-one would give a toss. =/

[Tom]

Because it's not good for his reputation or image.

If he had said "bring it on, may the best man win", it would of been a lot more respectable. Openly slating a band/song like that is enough to tarnish a reputation and as he's only just been thrown out into the limelight, saying all the right things is VERY important.

Well generally those on his side agree with him and those who are on Rage's side hate him for no particular reason other than winning X Factor, so its not as though he's irritating anyone new.

Those of us indifferent and find the whole thing pathetic and hypocritical don't really care either way.

[Enid]

I know but it's not fair that since now he's famouse he must censore his opinions. He's gonna get more hate from saying that because he's famous, while if a random BB contestant for example said that, no-one would give a toss. =/
I know. This is what happens when you're famous. He needs to learn that.

[Enid]

Well generally those on his side agree with him and those who are on Rage's side hate him for no particular reason other than winning X Factor, so its not as though he's irritating anyone new.

Those of us indifferent and find the whole thing pathetic and hypocritical don't really care either way.
Do you not agree though that he sounds very ignorant in what he said about RATM?

[WOMBAI]

The Sun again- don't believe a word of it! Dare say they have at best twisted his words - at worst completely made it up!

[M X]

Oh god. Bad move on Joe's part.

[_Seth]

I know. This is what happens when you're famous. He needs to learn that.

No, everyone needs to learn to respect opinions.

It's ridiculous that because he's from X Factor he's hated. It's like WTF so what, he can sing ****ing beautifully so that's what matters.

[Tom]

Do you not agree though that he sounds very ignorant in what he said about RATM?

No because he's right. And thats coming from someone who can't stand Joe.

[MarkWaldorf]

I personally don't believe Joe said this :/ It doesn't seem like the sort of attitude he'd have. All week he's been wishing RATM good luck and describing it as normal chart competition.

[_Seth]

Do you not agree though that he sounds very ignorant in what he said about RATM?

What ignorant about it?

[Enid]

I personally don't believe Joe said this :/ It doesn't seem like the sort of attitude he'd have. All week he's been wishing RATM good luck and describing it as normal chart competition.
Then whoever made up this garbage could lose him his position.

[WOMBAI]

I personally don't believe Joe said this :/ It doesn't seem like the sort of attitude he'd have. All week he's been wishing RATM good luck and describing it as normal chart competition.

:thumbs:

[Tom]

Then whoever made up this garbage could lose him his position.

Well not really because the charts are done on a Saturday so pretty much 99% of sales will now be done.

[MarkWaldorf]

There's a video on The Sun website of Joe hearing it and the only thing he says is 'I can't imagine people listening to this on Christmas day.' I don't know where they got the rest from.

[Tom]

And the protest will probably be over now so Rage will most likely plummet out of the charts next week and Joe will get last number 1 of 2009. Its not as though its a good song like Hallelujah last year

[Enid]

What ignorant about it?
Well for a start, he admitted he had not heard the song before, and I'm guessing the bad as well. He mentioned how they are just shouting when they are a rap/rock band. There are many different vocal styles and he should know this as he has just won a sodding singing competition!

[mizzy25]

i dont believe for one minute joe wud have said those things

[Tom]

Well for a start, he admitted he had not heard the song before, and I'm guessing the bad as well. He mentioned how they are just shouting when they are a rap/rock band. There are many different vocal styles and he should know this as he has just won a sodding singing competition!

I hadn't heard about it before, am I ignorant?

[WOMBAI]

Well for a start, he admitted he had not heard the song before, and I'm guessing the bad as well. He mentioned how they are just shouting when they are a rap/rock band. There are many different vocal styles and he should know this as he has just won a sodding singing competition!

The Sun always take things out of context and twist what people say - they are famous for it! They are a shite paper selling shite stories - to people who hear what they want to hear!

[Enid]

Ah, if you're going to nitpick and selectively read my posts, I'm done here.

[lily.]

At least they read yours Enid. LoL

Mine appear to be in invisible ink on some threads here.

[\PJ/]

RATM or Joe i couldn't care less.

[andyman]

Love that track by RATM.. Full fúçking blast!

[_Seth]

Well for a start, he admitted he had not heard the song before, and I'm guessing the bad as well. He mentioned how they are just shouting when they are a rap/rock band. There are many different vocal styles and he should know this as he has just won a sodding singing competition!

Well, I'm just gonna go with it's his opinion.

Anyway, I watched the video of him hearing it for the first time. He seemed totally respectful. He just said he doesn't like rock music but each to their own and he couldn't imagine people listening to this while having Christmas dinner, lol. The only bad thing he did was throw darts at a picture of a RATM band member. That was disrespectful, and I'm a big fan of Joe.

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/showbiz/bizarre/2778291/X-Factor-star-blasts-rival-Rages-riffage.html

[Enid]

At least they read yours Enid. LoL

Mine appear to be in invisible ink on some threads here.
Then it probably means they are agreeing with you. :P

[Enid]

Well, I'm just gonna go with it's his opinion.

Anyway, I watched the video of him hearing it for the first time. He seemed totally respectful. He just said he doesn't like rock music but each to their own and he couldn't imagine people listening to this while having Christmas dinner, lol. The only bad thing he did was throw darts at a picture of a RATM band member. That was disrespectful, and I'm a big fan of Joe.

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/showbiz/bizarre/2778291/X-Factor-star-blasts-rival-Rages-riffage.html
Hahaha those pictures are hilarious. Look at his goofy smile as he's pulling out a dart from Zack's arm. And the photo with the newspaper... he reminds me of David Brent or Michael Scott for some reason.

[lily.]

haha.. I highly doubt that. I was saying a lot of the same stuff you were. Maybe you're just flavour of the week to pick apart.. haha

[Enid]

haha.. I highly doubt that. I was saying a lot of the same stuff you were. Maybe you're just flavour of the week to pick apart.. haha
Haha perhaps. I quite enjoy it actually as I would never back down or admit defeat, lol.

[Stacey.]

JoeJoe :D

[Patrick]

Well said Joe.

Your 18 and you have more ****ing sense than these American ***** who seem to think the UK loves their music.

[Stephanie]

patrick what is your problem with americans?

[Enid]

We do love American music? Who is in the charts right now, eh? Uhh.. Lady Gaga, Beyonce, Mariah Carey, Britney, etc etc.

Why do you keep bringing up their nationality?

[Jords]

At least they read yours Enid. LoL

Mine appear to be in invisible ink on some threads here.

I see it lili! :laugh:

I think Joe should have kept quiet, he speaks the truth but it might see him as being bitter about it, even though I couldnt see Joe being like this, some people might and now buy RATM because of him saying 0/10 and all that.

[andyman]

Haha perhaps. I quite enjoy it actually as I would never back down or admit defeat, lol... Like all women.

[Enid]

.. Like all women.
Yep! :thumbs:

[lily.]

Haha perhaps. I quite enjoy it actually as I would never back down or admit defeat, lol.



Haha.. we have that in common girl.. :thumbs:

[WOMBAI]

Yep! :thumbs:

They have the physical strength - we have the mental strength! :spin:

[Enid]

Absolutely!

[lily.]

Enid/Wombai/lili = male TiBB members worst opponents.. haha

[andyman]

Well said Joe.

Your 18 and you have more ****ing sense than these American ***** who seem to think the UK loves their music.People in the UK do like RATM, people all over the world like RATM..

[_Seth]

I could debate for hours and win if it's something I know I'm right about and passionate about. :)

[Enid]

Enid/Wombai/lili = male TiBB members worst opponents.. haha
Hahah, I hope this is true. :D

[WOMBAI]

Enid/Wombai/lili = male TiBB members worst opponents.. haha

:thumbs:

[_Seth]

No.

[Enid]

People in the UK do like RATM, people all over the world like RATM..
Yeah, but where they come from has absolutely no relevance anyway. Patrick is starting to sound like a broken record now.

[lily.]

He's a bit thick. His opinions ceased to count since his 'RATM must not have got through the XF auditions' post.

[Stu]

Well said Joe.

Your 18 and you have more ****ing sense than these American ***** who seem to think the UK loves their music.
Whats it got to do with country you penis.

[andyman]

Women are emotional wrecks that should lay off the thinking..

[Enid]

Women are emotional wrecks that should lay off the thinking..
*flips off*

Anyway...

[andyman]

Patrick must be a woman.

[Enid]

Patrick thinks swearing every other word will make his opinion more valid.

[Matt]

Oh, Patrick's being xenophobic again. He brings America in to everything. If it's American, in his eyes it's automatically ****. :rolleyes:

[Stephanie]

i find it funny how he hates americans yet he likes lady gaga ect.

[Enid]

i find it funny how he hates americans yet he likes lady gaga ect.
Well he clearly has no idea what he's talking about then, hah.

[WOMBAI]

Women are emotional wrecks that should lay off the thinking..

That belief has always been a fallacy - made up by scared men - afraid of womens' strengths! :hugesmile:

[lily.]

Women are emotional wrecks that should lay off the thinking..

-pulls Andy through the screen-

-knocks the shite out of him-


You were saying?

[WOMBAI]

-pulls Andy through the screen-

-knocks the shite out of him-


You were saying?

Atta girl! However - we don't need to resort to physical violence as we can win a war of words any time! :joker: Little grey cells ...

[andyman]

You crazy women.. TiBB very own Charlie's Angels.

[lily.]

I know we don't need to resort to violence, but it's always fun.. and I reckon Andy secretly enjoys it.

[andyman]

Atta girl! However - we don't need to resort to physical violence as we can win a war of words any time! :joker: Little grey cells ...No love thats your grey hair..

[Enid]

Andy is the typical macho man that enjoys the odd spanking or two, I reckon. :P

[andyman]

*Handcuffs self to the bed*

Ready! :)

[Enid]

Hah, I knew it! What would your fellow Brothers say, eh?

[andyman]

Dam! Enid stole my manbag, had 50p in that :(

[Enid]

Hahah manbag!? You woman!

Here, have your 50p back. I spat on it though.

[arista]

He is slating a classic rock song and has just come across as an ignorant little boy. Adding fuel to the fire. Carry on Joe. :D


Yes the Mega SonyEpicBMG Fire
and its loving this war of their songs

[andyman]

Hahah manbag!? You woman!

Here, have your 50p back. I spat on it though.Play yeh cards right and i might have sex with you.

*puts 50p in mouth.. Cleans.. Puts 50p BACK in manbag*

[Stu]

Oh, Patrick's being xenophobic again. He brings America in to everything. If it's American, in his eyes it's automatically ****. :rolleyes:
We have to naturally assume of course that Master Patrick's house is completely free of all American made or created products, services and pieces of media :wink:.

[WOMBAI]

No love thats your grey hair..

No love - definitely grey cells ...!:dance:

[Enid]

Play yeh cards right and i might have sex with you.

*puts 50p in mouth.. Cleans.. Puts 50p BACK in manbag*
I'll bear that in mind...

[WOMBAI]

I'll bear that in mind...

...NOT! :joker:

[Enid]

We have to naturally assume of course that Master Patrick's house is completely free of all American made or created products, services and pieces of media :wink:.
And I'm going to naturally assume that assumption is bullshit. :P

[Tom4784]

He's a tool, I felt sorry for him until that article.

[Ramsay]

Such a gobshite
as if his song is better
**** him

[Niamh.]

Such a gobshite
as if his song is better
**** him

"his song"???? lol

[Ramsay]

"his song"???? lol

i ment the climb
like..RATM have their own song
and feckin joe has a cover for xmas number 1
god ...sorry that article pissed me off haha

[NettoSuperstar!]

Pot Kettle Black Joe...The Climb?? puleeeeease!...The Crime more like

[Niamh.]

i ment the climb
like..RATM have their own song
and feckin joe has a cover for xmas number 1
god ...sorry that article pissed me off haha

lol, I know, I agree with you, he's singing a song that Miley Cyrus already released this year, people in glass houses shouldn't throw stones!

[alc09]

I heard Joe's song again earlier, and my opinion has not changed - absolute shite. :joker:

Like they would want to go to boot camp and get a record deal off Simon Cowell, they did it the hard way, you didn't!

[WOMBAI]

Don't believe he said it! I would need a much more valid source than the Sun!

[_Seth]

that article pissed me off haha

Why? It's just someone's opinion? If he doesn't like it fair do's. I'm also believing he wasn't that rude about it.

[Jords]

Don't believe he said it! I would need a much more valid source than the Sun!

Very good point about it being from the sun Wombai! :laugh:

[Stephanie]

it's in ds and the sun.

[_Seth]

it's in ds and the sun.

It's from the Sun, it was just posted on DS.

[teabag.]

i read this on NME, like why the hell would we care if simon cowell wouldn't like it!
He knows nothing on proper music.

[Alf]

why do you really care? christmas number 1 means ****** all,
mr blobby and bob the builder have been christmas number 1 in recent years
there's better things to do at christmas time than worry who's at number 1
this is just a publicity stunt, so that gullable twa*s go and buy this sh*t

[Alf]

why do you really care? christmas number 1 means ****** all,
mr blobby and bob the builder have been christmas number 1 in recent years
there's better things to do at christmas time than worry who's at number 1
this is just a publicity stunt, so that gullable twa*s go and buy this sh*t
i sound like a miserable tw*t sometimes

[Tom]

Noone cares about the charts these days though, so the Christmas number 1 stuff stopped meaning something some time in the 90's, early 00s

Its only obsessive types that care now

[Stacey.]

i sound like a miserable tw*t sometimes

:joker: that is the first thing i can agree with you on :pat:
Well done!!!