RATM vs Joe [Christmas No. 1]

[Patrick]

On VH1 I was listening to 'Battle for Christmas Number 1'
And it was all NEW Songs with the year 2009 beside them.

And then RATM come on '2004' with their **** song.

Joe was right, all this is is SHOUTING.
Its not music.

Cheryl Cole was on before this, I wouldnt mind if she was #1
But this is not a good song, never mind for Christmas #1/

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Is not a song, its not the type of song we want to hear for on Christmas.

Buy Joes Album FFS.
Bin it afterwards or give it to your mate or charity, just bloody buy it so we dont have this bollocks as Christmas #1

[Iceman]

Yawn

[Stacey.]

i know rightt!
Joe for number 1 :D

[Chels]

well said patrick!

[Harry!]

Joes song is so dull. At least the other song is far diverse and non commersial.

[Stacey.]

Joes song is so dull. At least the other song is far diverse and non commersial.

but Harry mate, do we really want to hear swearing all day lonbg at Christmas??? :joker:
lol, buy Joes 'the climb', and make him happy!

[Patrick]

but Harry mate, do we really want to hear swearing all day lonbg at Christmas??? :joker:
lol, buy Joes 'the climb', and make him happy!

Yea, People say the XF Isnt Christmassy so dont buy it :joker:
Yet there willing to buy a song thats nothing but a bunch of men shouting into a microphone.

At least the Climb sounds abit Christmassy.

[Harry!]

but Harry mate, do we really want to hear swearing all day lonbg at Christmas??? :joker:
lol, buy Joes 'the climb', and make him happy!

Michael Jackson's Eath Song got to Xmas number 1 in 1995. And that wasnt merry.

[Stacey.]

Yea, People say the XF Isnt Christmassy so dont buy it :joker:
Yet there willing to buy a song thats nothing but a bunch of men shouting into a microphone.

At least the Climb sounds abit Christmassy.

mhmm,and let joe have his special moment! :dance:
Even if it IS just this once :joker:

[30stone]

Ill be buying joes later when i go town, it will be going straight in the bin when i leave the shop. :)

[Stacey.]

Michael Jackson's Eath Song got to Xmas number 1 in 1995. And that wasnt merry.

omg omg omg...
sorry,thats the year i was born :D
Ohh, but this is Joeeey :D

[Stacey.]

Ill be buying joes later when i go town, it will be going straight in the bin when i leave the shop. :)

:joker: give it to me!

[Harry!]

omg omg omg...
sorry,thats the year i was born :D
Ohh, but this is Joeeey :D

Joes song will be foggoten in a few years. This one wouldnt. That is why the RATM diserves thye top. Its because of the legecy which the public dont like.

[Patrick]

Ill be buying joes later when i go town, it will be going straight in the bin when i leave the shop. :)

Thats great :)

At least hes still getting a buyer, apperantly its very close but RATM are still in the lead :(

[Stacey.]

Joes song will be foggoten in a few years. This one wouldnt. That is why the RATM diserves thye top. Its because of the legecy which the public dont like.

hmm,it will be forgotten. :conf:
This is why Jedward were the real winners :D:D

[Stacey.]

Thats great :)

At least hes still getting a buyer, apperantly its very close but RATM are still in the lead :(

Really?
i heard that Joe is...by FAR in the lead...
:/ i hope mines right :hugesmile:

[Harry!]

hmm,it will be forgotten. :conf:
This is why Jedward were the real winners :D:D

The twins would be foggottern as well. XF will be not reembered in 10 years.

[Iceman]

A song about racist cops or the climb, i'll go with the racist cops everytime!

[Stacey.]

The twins would be foggottern as well. XF will be not reembered in 10 years.

:bored:
Jedward will be around AND remembered until the day that they die :D
oh nooo,the thought of them dying...:bawling:
KILLS meee.:(

[Patrick]

Joes song will be foggoten in a few years. This one wouldnt. That is why the RATM diserves thye top. Its because of the legecy which the public dont like.

RATM will only be remembered once a year when everyone is listening to the Radio/TV and they have 'Every Christmas #1' on

And its all good right up to Alexandra Burke, and then after that its complete ****.

Nothing but American Men who want to ruin our charts by screaming swear words.

They dont even deserve it, Joe won fair and square and people like him And the X Factor.

RATM just came out of nowhere and decided people should buy their ****.

[Stacey.]

The twins would be forgotten as well. XF will be not remembered in 10 years.

:thumbs: just had to put the spellings right!!! :D hahaha

[Iceman]

RATM will only be remembered once a year when everyone is listening to the Radio/TV and they have 'Every Christmas #1' on

And its all good right up to Alexandra Burke, and then after that its complete ****.

Nothing but American Men who want to ruin our charts by screaming swear words.

They dont even deserve it, Joe won fair and square and people like him And the X Factor.

RATM just came out of nowhere and decided people should buy their ****.

shows how little you know, they didnt start this campaign.

Also is joe giving his proceeds to charity??? has he set up a way that people can donate money when they buy the song...???

[Patrick]

The twins would be foggottern as well. XF will be not reembered in 10 years.

The Twins will be remembered, if they keep doing what there doing and dont take the money and run.
If they keep getting money and keep doing TV then they`ll be remembered for years.

XF wont be on in 10 years because its falling apart, but if you look at the ratings then it will obviously be remembered.

This years ratings were epic, imagine next years!
Would be even better.

[Patrick]

shows how little you know, they didnt start this campaign.

Also is joe giving his proceeds to charity??? has he set up a way that people can donate money when they buy the song...???

I know some guy did it on FB.

Well its still ****ing pointless, whats the point in it?
There just hating on XF for no reason at all, its stupid.
They can give it to charity all they like, 'Hero' and 'Your not alone' went to Charity, but the XF is still being critizied by RATM and their ****ed up fans.

[Harry!]

RATM will only be remembered once a year when everyone is listening to the Radio/TV and they have 'Every Christmas #1' on

And its all good right up to Alexandra Burke, and then after that its complete ****.

Nothing but American Men who want to ruin our charts by screaming swear words.

They dont even deserve it, Joe won fair and square and people like him And the X Factor.

RATM just came out of nowhere and decided people should buy their ****.


Right -

the RATM song is original and not a cover version which adds to the creativity of the song.

Many other songs in the past have included sware words as well possibly Xmmas number ones in the past.

The band didnt start up the campaign thereselves it was a group set up on Facebook.

Plus the bad have had more songs look them up on Wiki.

And leave your American hate out of it many American acts have had the UK Xmas number 1 before.

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[Harry!]

:thumbs: just had to put the spellings right!!! :D hahaha

Im not in top english group btw..

[Crimson Dynamo]

On VH1 I was listening to 'Battle for Christmas Number 1'
And it was all NEW Songs with the year 2009 beside them.

And then RATM come on '2004' with their **** song.

Joe was right, all this is is SHOUTING.
Its not music.

Cheryl Cole was on before this, I wouldnt mind if she was #1
But this is not a good song, never mind for Christmas #1/

'**** YOU I WONT DO WHAT YOU TELL ME **** YOU BITCH **** SLAG **** COCK **** DICK **** **** **** **** ****'

Is not a song, its not the type of song we want to hear for on Christmas.

Buy Joes Album FFS.
Bin it afterwards or give it to your mate or charity, just bloody buy it so we dont have this bollocks as Christmas #1

Perhaps if you want to make a moral crusade you should start by not taking the Lord's name in vain?:nono:

[Harry!]

:bored:
Jedward will be around AND remembered until the day that they die :D
oh nooo,the thought of them dying...:bawling:
KILLS meee.:(

One hit wonder then gone forever....And I am a fan of them.

[Stacey.]

Im not in top english group btw..

Me either!!!! :D
lmfaooo,just noticed,thats all :)

[Stacey.]

One hit wonder then gone forever....And I am a fan of them.

:bored:
forever and everrr,amen :D:D.

[_Seth]

Their songs are utter ****. Sorry.

I want Joe to win, he deserves it. :thumbs:

[Harry!]

The Twins will be remembered, if they keep doing what there doing and dont take the money and run.
If they keep getting money and keep doing TV then they`ll be remembered for years.

XF wont be on in 10 years because its falling apart, but if you look at the ratings then it will obviously be remembered.

This years ratings were epic, imagine next years!
Would be even better.

But they wont be remembered in 10 years time taht was my point.

[_Seth]

But they wont be remembered in 10 years time taht was my point.

I'll always remember him. He was my favourite singer and I'll support him in everything he does. :)

[Stacey.]

Their songs are utter ****. Sorry.

I want Joe to win, he deserves it. :thumbs:

Jedward got bullied ALL their life :bawling:
They stayed up ALL night to practice their songs readyy for the next live show:dance:
They got through EVERYTHING life threww at them, who deserves it more that that,, eh? :D

[Stacey.]

I'll always remember him. He was my favourite singer and I'll support him in everything he does. :)

yehh,i think his fans will NEVER forget him,, just like other contestants fans wont forget them either!
:xyxwave: <> Jedward fan here!!! :D hahahaha

[Stephanie]

btw if you buy joe's now it doesn't count towards the xmas number 1
it's gonna be annouced at like 7 on radio one today
it's really close apparently

[Stacey.]

btw if you buy joe's now it doesn't count towards the xmas number 1
it's gonna be annouced at like 7 on radio one today
it's really close apparently

:shocked:
All our hope to stay with Joe :)

[Stu]

The RATM campaign has raised over 60 thousand pounds for charity and the band are giving profits to charity. It disgusts me to see Joe's petulant sense of entitlement to the number 1 slot speaking of "all the hard work" he's done! This spoiled brat doesn't know what work is! He's done nothing to earn the top slot except be a grinning puppet for a weeks long ad corporate ad campaign and now expects to ride Cowell's slick media machine automatically to the number one position by singing someone else's song, so that we have another X-Factor clone at number one for the 5th year running? No! Enough is enough! This monopoly has to stop. Joe thinks he is more infinitely entitled that real bands, real musicians, who write their own material and work long and hard to make it in the industry (they have REAL 'sob stories'). This is what X-factor has done - created spoiled brats to use as cash cows for their cynical corporate manipulation. Rage for No1!
- Paul, Plymouth, 20/12/2009 02:54
:wink:

[Patrick]

btw if you buy joe's now it doesn't count towards the xmas number 1
it's gonna be annouced at like 7 on radio one today
it's really close apparently

ffs

If RATM win my hate for America will increase by 60%

[Princess]

omg omg omg...
sorry,thats the year i was born :D
Ohh, but this is Joeeey :D

*feels old*

[Stacey.]

*feels old*

haha, no no"
:) only 14 :D
still got a whole lifetime ahead of us laura :joker: - hopefully

[_Seth]

Jedward got bullied ALL their life :bawling:
They stayed up ALL night to practice their songs readyy for the next live show:dance:
They got through EVERYTHING life threww at them, who deserves it more that that,, eh? :D
Being bullied doesn't make them good singers. I know that sounds harsh, but it is unrelated. And tbh I can see why they'd be bullied. They where abysmal with the "Oops I did it again" :p
yehh,i think his fans will NEVER forget him,, just like other contestants fans wont forget them either!
:xyxwave: <> Jedward fan here!!! :D hahahaha
True, but I genuinley won't forget Joe. Can't see it happening, plus he will be around for a very long time. He's so young so there's so much he has yet to do. <3
it's gonna be annouced at like 7 on radio one today
That's weird, why wouldn't it be announced on Christmas day?

[Patrick]

:wink:


That called Joe a spoilt brat and said 'he doesnt know what hard work is'
LMFAO

And RATM do?

If they become #1 Its because the prats have a **** little Facebook page.
If Joe becomes #1 its because week after week hes been putting his back into winning a UK talent show, which RATM know **** all about.

[Stu]

ffs

If RATM win my hate for America will increase by 60%
Irony is Rage despise America too, you tool.

[Twilight]

Agreed, actually patrick i could say that post is you best post yet tbh.

[Stu]

That called Joe a spoilt brat and said 'he doesnt know what hard work is'
LMFAO

And RATM do?

If they become #1 Its because the prats have a **** little Facebook page.
If Joe becomes #1 its because week after week hes been putting his back into winning a UK talent show, which RATM know **** all about.
No, it would be democracy. Plain and simple. Rage selling more than Joe. Forget for a moment about who started the campaign.

Sure he put effort into it but who cares? That does not automatically entitle him to a #1 spot. The people choose.

Of course Rage know **** all about a talent show. Why would they? They did not come up through that system.

At the end of the day Rage are a real band and even though it's not the groups best track - far from it - I would rather a real band be #1 than some little douche covering a Miley fricken Cyrus song.

[Harry!]

:wink:

You know what. I agree with everything that Paul had said.

[Stu]

Paul is da man. Don't even know who the dude is.

[Harry!]

Paul is da man. Don't even know who the dude is.

Paul vs Patrick would be a good watch.

[Stu]

Patrick is like a bad anti American gimmick on a wrestling show.

[Stacey.]

Being bullied doesn't make them good singers. I know that sounds harsh, but it is unrelated. And tbh I can see why they'd be bullied. They where abysmal with the "Oops I did it again" :p



i know, but theyve come through a lot in their life.
I can see (about being bullied) but, its so Mean and Uncalled for.
Butt,, they are better than those bullies and they have been and will be more :D
personally,, i lovved Oops I Did It Again, it was their favourite performance too :D

[Patrick]

Patrick is like a bad anti American gimmick on a wrestling show.

I hate wrestling.
Its so fake and annoying.

I use to love America, I was so obsessed with it but then I realised its the most annoying self centered country in the world.

[_Seth]

i know, but theyve come through a lot in their life.
I can see (about being bullied) but, its so Mean and Uncalled for.
Butt,, they are better than those bullies and they have been and will be more :D
personally,, i lovved Oops I Did It Again, it was their favourite performance too :D

They came back and did all their songs terribly. Joe did them with utter perfection.

[Stacey.]

They came back and did all their songs terribly. Joe did them with utter perfection.

um, you have to admit he wasnt quite perfect every week :hugesmile:
Lmfao, but jedwards singing wasnt the best in the competition,we all know that :joker: but they had the 'x' factor :D
they came 6th,which was NEVER expected. :)
so,well done to them!:thumbs:

[_Seth]

Well each to their own. It's a fact that Joe is a much better singer, but opinion if you prefer Jedward.

[Stacey.]

Well each to their own. It's a fact that Joe is a much better singer, but opinion if you prefer Jedward.

Joe can can better notes - no denying it.:)
but jedward are fun, etc. :D
THE BEST EVER = jedward :D

[_Seth]

Joe can can better notes - no denying it.:)
but jedward are fun, etc. :D
THE BEST EVER = jedward :D

But if it was a matter of just LISTENING to them sing, you'd never buy it. Watch one of Jedward's performances and close your eyes. :) XD

[Ramsay]

Joes song is a cover ffs

[Damaris]

The Climb is ****.

Ratm is god like.

[Tom4784]

On VH1 I was listening to 'Battle for Christmas Number 1'
And it was all NEW Songs with the year 2009 beside them.

And then RATM come on '2004' with their **** song.

Joe was right, all this is is SHOUTING.
Its not music.

Cheryl Cole was on before this, I wouldnt mind if she was #1
But this is not a good song, never mind for Christmas #1/

'**** YOU I WONT DO WHAT YOU TELL ME **** YOU BITCH **** SLAG **** COCK **** DICK **** **** **** **** ****'

Is not a song, its not the type of song we want to hear for on Christmas.

Buy Joes Album FFS.
Bin it afterwards or give it to your mate or charity, just bloody buy it so we dont have this bollocks as Christmas #1

http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a133/deanyzyz/2wgd4ee.gif

I'm no fan of it but it ain't crap, you're just too ignorant to see it's merits. Just because you don't understand something doesn't mean it isn't any good. To be fair Killing in the name of has more meaning and will be remembered far beyond The Climb will.

You probably wouldn't hate RATM if they were'nt american.

[Stacey.]

But if it was a matter of just LISTENING to them sing, you'd never buy it. Watch one of Jedward's performances and close your eyes. :) XD

Imo Jedward just stole the stage every Saturdayy night :dance:
lol,joes voiice is really shaky :conf:

[Edward:)]

the climb would of been better if jedward were singing it.

but i still hope joe gos to number 1 because he is x factor and x factor is epic

[Tom4784]

Imo Jedward just stole the stage every Saturdayy night :dance:
lol,joes voiice is really shaky :conf:

....It's meant to be it's called Vibrato.

[teabag.]

the song is not even shouting.
i don't particularly love it but i'd rather listen to that than the freaking climb!

[Stacey.]

....It's meant to be it's called Vibrato.

not my thingg :/

[Stacey.]

the climb would of been better if jedward were singing it.

but i still hope joe gos to number 1 because he is x factor and x factor is epic

Jedward + the climb - unbeatable :D

[Sophii3x]

Gah, whatever.. and I really don't want to be hearing a COVER of a crappy song which zero effort was put into it to create. How on earth does that deserve to be number 1, and who the heck is gonna remember it and the artist in 10 years time? Nobody.
RATM actually worked for their place in the industry, they wrote this song (and probably all their others), they play instruments and the song is original. And I really don't care if they swear, it's ONE word repeated.

[teabag.]

the climb would of been better if jedward were singing it.

but i still hope joe gos to number 1 because he is x factor and x factor is epic

This is why it shouldn't be number one. You only want it to be number one because you like X factor..

[Sarah.]

*Is listening to Killing in the Name*
Much,much,MUCH better than Joe's song.

RATM for #1 plz :)

[Stacey.]

This is why it shouldn't be number one. You only want it to be number one because you like X factor..

yeah,whats wrong with that ?:dance:
TheXFactor for the win :D

[Ramsay]

RATM didnt just come out of nowhere patrick
theyve been around a good 18 years
altho killing in the name isnt one of their best songs
its definatly better then the crap that joe produces

[James]

RATM getting to No.1 will be good because it will make Simon think twice next time about planting the X Factor flag on the Christmas No. 1 battle.

This campaign is about getting a little bit of Christmas tradition back. The fact that some people don't think the song is Christmasy enough, or worthy enough, would make the rout even greater. Of Fulham 3 Man Utd 0 proportions even...

[Stacey.]

RATM didnt just come out of nowhere patrick
theyve been around a good 18 years
altho killing in the name isnt one of their best songs
its definatly better then the crap that joe produces

well... ive never heard of them before :joker:
you would have to be ancient to know them, lmmaoo:joker:

[Sarah.]

I hate wrestling.
Its so fake and annoying.

I use to love America, I was so obsessed with it but then I realised its the most annoying self centered country in the world.

Wrestling isn't fake.
Seriously, don't get me started.

[Patrick]

I see the title of my thread has been changed :D

[Patrick]

Wrestling isn't fake.
Seriously, don't get me started.

Your on crack :joker:
Everyone knows Its fake :joker::joker:

A Usuall day at WWE
------

'You slept with my wife'
'Yeah? What`cha gona do?'
'Your going down!'
'No..your going down!'
'AAAH' *Harmless Punch*

[Stu]

Your on crack :joker:
Everyone knows Its fake :joker::joker:

A Usuall day at WWE
------

'You slept with my wife'
'Yeah? What`cha gona do?'
'Your going down!'
'No..your going down!'
'AAAH' *Harmless Punch*
It's meant to be predetermined. That's ... the idea. It's like complaining that movies like Star Wars are fake. It's meant to be fake.

You know nothing about it kid. Your basic approach is 'lol i saw da southpark episode on it'.

Damn yo' dumb.

[InOne]

Listening to Radio 1 now

[Stephanie]

same

[Patrick]

You know nothing about it kid. Your basic approach is 'lol i saw da southpark episode on it'.

Damn yo' dumb.

Wtf

[Stacey.]

Stuart scares me :/
strangee kid

[Sarah.]

Your on crack :joker:
Everyone knows Its fake :joker::joker:

A Usuall day at WWE
------

'You slept with my wife'
'Yeah? What`cha gona do?'
'Your going down!'
'No..your going down!'
'AAAH' *Harmless Punch*

You don't know anything.
So ****.

[Tom4784]

Oh God Courtney and Patrick in the same thread, It's like two forces of stupidity colliding, we best make sure the earth is intact.

Courtney, Stu's speaks more sense then you ever will love.

[Axiom]

It really pisses me off that most X Factor winners / competitors have NO idea about music, except how to sing, and as such just CANNOT be called "musicians". They always seem to have an insular interest in music, only knowing about all the commercial ****, as evidenced by Joe because he hadn't heard of Rage against the Machine. I mean, who hasn't? I have a wide variety of genres I enjoy and produce, but insular, narrow minded people who call themselves musicians and haven't written a musical piece in their lives annoy me so much.

[Stacey.]

Oh God Courtney and Patrick in the same thread, It's like two forces of stupidity colliding, we best make sure the earth is intact.

Courtney, Stu's speaks more sense then you ever will love.

i dont get him :/
im thick though :D lmfao

[King Gizzard]

Wrestling is fake and predetermined

Sometimes its so blatently obvious


But I watch it for the storylines, its like a soap.

[LemonJam]

Muppets ftw.