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setanta
22-12-2009, 02:25 PM
Yes I did because she took the piss out of me and I wanted to make fun of her to make her leave. You seem to see the thing on one side only but you are refusing to see what they told us.


Question for you Remy - What age is Stephanie?

I don't care what's she's supposed to have said or done but there's absolutely no excuse to be talking to a girl like that.

lily.
22-12-2009, 02:26 PM
RachelRiceFan - I'll add you to the list in a sec.



WOMBAI - you have made the best points so far, despite what some others may think.

Captain.Remy
22-12-2009, 02:26 PM
Why is it causing trouble though?

You say that if people don't like the BH, then don't post there..

Surely the same rules apply here.

In which case, if BH members don't like the petition thread, don't post here..

Simples.

This is different, we are defending what we believe in. Unless this thread is being a clique too which surely can be closed according to your standards right ?

Tom4784
22-12-2009, 02:26 PM
I don't really want the BH to go really but I do hope this thread stays open as long as it remains as a debate. I'm still for a compromise though, maybe we can get a mod to look after it? That way the thread can stay open and it'll eliminate people's worries of abuse or clique-ish behavior? I don't know, I just hope we can all reach a place on the debate that suits everyone.

andyman
22-12-2009, 02:26 PM
The Brotherhood is the true force of Tibb.. The greatness of Tibb is Brotherhood.


Most that want it closed never post in there or chat to the member.. Makes the petition invalid.

lily.
22-12-2009, 02:27 PM
The Brotherhood is the true force of Tibb.. The greatness of Tibb is Brotherhood.


Most that want it closed never post in there or chat to the member.. Makes the petition invalid.


Perfect argument for closing it..

WOMBAI
22-12-2009, 02:27 PM
This was something Remy said to Stephanie the other day... yesterday actually....

"Hey Steph, nice legs, what time do they open ? I'm asking you this because it's time to get on the street and get some cash baby. Go to work and don't come back until you can't walk no more."

By anyone's standards - that is a pretty disgusting and disrespectful thing to say to any woman - nevermind a 14 year-old girl. He should be ashamed of himself!

Ramsay
22-12-2009, 02:28 PM
he was obviously joking wombai

Captain.Remy
22-12-2009, 02:28 PM
Question for you Remy - What age is Stephanie?

I don't care what's she's supposed to have said or done but there's absolutely no excuse to be talking to a girl like that.

That's what she got for being insulting and disrespectful. Fine, I went mad last night because it was too much for me but still, it was in the purpose to make her leave the thread so we could all get back to normal.

lily.
22-12-2009, 02:29 PM
That's what she got for being insulting and disrespectful. Fine, I went mad last night because it was too much for me but still, it was in the purpose to make her leave the thread so we could all get back to normal.


Respect has to be earned. Even online.

setanta
22-12-2009, 02:29 PM
By anyone's standards - that is a pretty disgusting and disrespectful thing to say to any woman - nevermind a 14 year-old girl. He should be ashamed of himself!

I'm sure there's more of the same littered around the place but I think that one is enough, right? Shocking and no excuses for it.

Captain.Remy
22-12-2009, 02:30 PM
By anyone's standards - that is a pretty disgusting and disrespectful thing to say to any woman - nevermind a 14 year-old girl. He should be ashamed of himself!

I was obviously joking. Steph is not a ***** nor a prostitute or anything like that and I never ever treated a woman like this, ever. It got out of context, posting a quote like that right here, right now, means nothing.
But the thread isn't about me, so let's move on. I'm fine with Step so don't add oil on the fire. We're cool.

Beastie
22-12-2009, 02:31 PM
Meow :cat:

Captain.Remy
22-12-2009, 02:32 PM
I'm sure there's more of the same littered around the place but I think that one is enough, right? Shocking and no excuses for it.

Right Mother Theresa, because you're perfect right ? You're very funny. I explained how it went in another post so leave it as it.

Stephanie
22-12-2009, 02:35 PM
woa, alot more pages have been added since last night.

setanta
22-12-2009, 02:35 PM
Right Mother Theresa, because you're perfect right ? You're very funny. I explained how it went in another post so leave it as it.

Never said I was saintly at all and I'm very far from perfect, but that's just horrendous stuff to be saying to a young girl and how can we accept anything you say. seeing as you've become the spokesperson for the brotherhood? This was last night for crying out loud and I'm sure it's not an isolated incident.

Captain.Remy
22-12-2009, 02:37 PM
Never said I was saintly at all and I'm very far from perfect, but that's just horrendous stuff to be saying to a young girl and how can we accept anything you say. seeing as you've become the spokesperson for the brotherhood? This was last night for crying out loud and I'm sure it's not an isolated incident.

It's the only time in 4 years I crossed the line this much. You obviously don't know me very well. Go back to your own business, if someone has to protest, it's Stephanie, not you. And like I said, I talked to Steph last night.

Billy
22-12-2009, 02:38 PM
OT:

Do we not get banned for insulting anymore?

lily.
22-12-2009, 02:39 PM
Alc is still here Billy, so no.

Stu
22-12-2009, 02:40 PM
Never call me PJ setanta as if im your friend or something.
Oh mother of ****. Marvellous. I'm with wannashag. Keep this thread open for the ***** and giggles.

Captain.Remy
22-12-2009, 02:40 PM
OT:

Do we not get banned for insulting anymore?

Twilight and her friends would have been banned for a long time. So I guess no.

lily.
22-12-2009, 02:41 PM
Oh mother of ****. Marvellous. I'm with wannashag. Keep this thread open for the ***** and giggles.

Yeah, though I agree with PJ. Setanta should only refer to him by his username...




... oh wait..

setanta
22-12-2009, 02:42 PM
It's the only time in 4 years I crossed the line this much. You obviously don't know me very well. Go back to your own business, if someone has to protest, it's Stephanie, not you. And like I said, I talked to Steph last night.

I very much doubt it but I'm not willing to search for more juicy comments made by you on the forum. Just thought it was important to highlight it considering the spiel that the Brotherhood have been giving in here and because it happened only last night. The scary thing is that you're more probably the least culpable in the insult department.

lily.
22-12-2009, 02:42 PM
Yet he's banging on about respect.. ironic..

setanta
22-12-2009, 02:43 PM
Oh mother of ****. Marvellous. I'm with wannashag. Keep this thread open for the ***** and giggles.

That was a doozie, wasn't it?

Captain.Remy
22-12-2009, 02:46 PM
I very much doubt it but I'm not willing to search for more juicy comments made by you on the forum. Just thought it was important to highlight it considering the spiel that the Brotherhood have been giving in here and because it happened only last night. The scary thing is that you're more probably the least culpable in the insult department.

You can go out and find something, you won't get anything interesting because I'm always arguing nice and not nasty, except last night when I lost it (a tiny bit). Like I said, it's out of context hence it does not make any sense here.

atieah2009
22-12-2009, 02:48 PM
All I can say is.... Long Live The Brother Hood. Well i can say more than that but you get what i mean.........

WOMBAI
22-12-2009, 02:48 PM
WOMBAI has shown herself up with that comment.

How? Just stating that it takes someone who is able to stand their ground when facing the combined forces of the 'brotherhood'! :joker:

lily.
22-12-2009, 02:49 PM
That's how I took your comment WOMBAI. There are several members on here who are genuinely intimidated by the BH. I'm not one of them..

setanta
22-12-2009, 02:49 PM
You can go out and find something, you won't get anything interesting because I'm always arguing nice and not nasty, except last night when I lost it (a tiny bit). Like I said, it's out of context hence it does not make any sense here.

A TINY bit?!! Oh, I have to find where you really lost it completely.

Captain.Remy
22-12-2009, 02:50 PM
A TINY bit?!! Oh, I have to find where you really lost it completely.

I never did and a lot of people can ensure it. I never got banned, not even a warning so it proves a lot. And God knows I've been involved in some crazy arguments. :joker:

Captain.Remy
22-12-2009, 02:53 PM
A TINY bit?!! Oh, I have to find where you really lost it completely.

I also want to add that I went through Anger Management so if I really lost it, I wouldn't be posting right now. I'm kinda proud lmao

Well, back to business now. :hugesmile:

setanta
22-12-2009, 02:53 PM
I never did and a lot of people can ensure it. I never got banned, not even a warning so it proves a lot. And God knows I've been involved in some crazy arguments. :joker:

It's probably the Brotherhood's methods rubbing off on you a bit.

lily.
22-12-2009, 02:53 PM
It would be nice to hear an admin's views on this subject.

andyman
22-12-2009, 02:54 PM
Setanta is always being vile to BH Knights.. You evil man.. EVIL!

lily.
22-12-2009, 02:54 PM
Could you survive without your brotherhood andyman?

Captain.Remy
22-12-2009, 02:54 PM
Look what we just got in the Bh thread:

boo to the brotherhood !

Need I say more ? :wink:

lily.
22-12-2009, 02:56 PM
Is that it? You can't use that as a pro-Brotherhood argument Remy.. you're slipping man.

andyman
22-12-2009, 02:57 PM
Could you survive without your brotherhood andyman?haha thats new.. Hmmm, well I am wearing my crown right now as i type this.. :p

What is funny is the hate..

WOMBAI
22-12-2009, 02:57 PM
I never did and a lot of people can ensure it. I never got banned, not even a warning so it proves a lot. And God knows I've been involved in some crazy arguments. :joker:

Oh it may well prove something - although not what you are implying. The word BH favouritism comes to mind!

Captain.Remy
22-12-2009, 02:57 PM
Is that it? You can't use that as a pro-Brotherhood argument Remy.. you're slipping man.

I didn't say anything. Just showing. Now you have the proof some random people post in the thread to be provocative for the sake of being provocative.
Just sayin'.

\PJ/
22-12-2009, 02:57 PM
Yeah, though I agree with PJ. Setanta should only refer to him by his username...




... oh wait..

LOL i never thought of it like that actually.

lily.
22-12-2009, 02:58 PM
LOL i never thought of it like that actually.


Oh PJ...



I actually like you, but that post caused more hilarity than Patrick's RATM rant... and the fact that you didn't think of it..

This is priceless..

Captain.Remy
22-12-2009, 02:58 PM
Oh it may well prove something - although not what you are implying. The word BH favouritism comes to mind!

What favouritism ? There isn't. The mods do their job fair and square. I never crossed the line except for last night so don't jump on it. And the BH was created way way after I joined so if the mods wanted to ban me, they could have done it a lot before.

lily.
22-12-2009, 02:59 PM
haha thats new.. Hmmm, well I am wearing my crown right now as i type this.. :p

What is funny is the hate..


I don't know that 'hate' is the right word. This thread isn't a BH hating thread, so much as it is an objection to the clique-ish-ness.

Captain.Remy
22-12-2009, 03:01 PM
I don't know that 'hate' is the right word. This thread isn't a BH hating thread, so much as it is an objection to the clique-ish-ness.

BH focussed tho. Only BH focussed. You can clearly say we are the problem, so yes, it's a BH hating thread.

lily.
22-12-2009, 03:02 PM
I disagree. As the protagonist in this subject, I personally do not have hate for the BH. I have issues with it but not hate.

andyman
22-12-2009, 03:02 PM
The BH and the Den welcome all to post and enjoy tibb..

X :) X

\PJ/
22-12-2009, 03:03 PM
what the hell am i doing here alan titchmarsh is on.

lily.
22-12-2009, 03:03 PM
Why do people keep bringing up the den? It's not relevant at all to this issue.

Tom4784
22-12-2009, 03:04 PM
If something has to change then the idea of keeping it a social group is a good one, that way it's not on the main board and the BH get to keep it albeit in a different form although I think it could remain a normal topic. Maybe we should have a Mod look over the BH to keep it on the straight and narrow in case some issues do arise?

Compromise is the key people.

Captain.Remy
22-12-2009, 03:04 PM
I disagree. As the protagonist in this subject, I personally do not have hate for the BH. I have issues with it but not hate.

Anti-Brotherhood petition + people hating in the thread = BH hating thread. :thumbs:

I agree with Andy, let's enjoy TIBB the way it is, it's cool like that.

Marc
22-12-2009, 03:04 PM
Lets have a petition about every little clique being removed.

lily.
22-12-2009, 03:04 PM
Was that post meant to be a joke moderator Marc?

WOMBAI
22-12-2009, 03:05 PM
I do get annoyed when people start resorting to the use of the word 'hate'! I don't hate the Brotherhood or anyone on here - I don't know anyone on here anywhere near well enough to hate them.

But I do dislike certain comments and types of behaviour. That is what I give my opinions on. Attempting to 'label' opposing comments as hate - is just another attempt at undermining their arguments! Usually done - when losing the argument!

Beastie
22-12-2009, 03:05 PM
Lets have a petition about every little clique being removed.

Does this include a TIBB's favourite member's list? etc..

Marc
22-12-2009, 03:05 PM
Was that post meant to be a joke moderator Marc?

No I mean it, all the cliques on here are just annoying everybody else so they either stay as it is or they all go. I see the latter being impossible to achieve but it would cause less arguments and hostilely.

Captain.Remy
22-12-2009, 03:06 PM
Why do people keep bringing up the den? It's not relevant at all to this issue.

Come on Lili, don't act like there is no Den vs BH thing. You're playing on words really, it's the same thing. :wink: There is a big divide we will never resolve.

Beastie
22-12-2009, 03:07 PM
Come on Lili, don't act like there is no Den vs BH thing. You're playing on words really, it's the same thing. :wink: There is a big divide we will never resolve.

The Den is better. It is much more of an open place and anyone can talk in it :D

Captain.Remy
22-12-2009, 03:07 PM
Lets have a petition about every little clique being removed.

Yeah, either scrap every social discussion thread or don't do anything at all. It's only fair.

Stu
22-12-2009, 03:07 PM
If something has to change then the idea of keeping it a social group is a good one, that way it's not on the main board and the BH get to keep it albeit in a different form although I think it could remain a normal topic. Maybe we should have a Mod look over the BH to keep it on the straight and narrow in case some issues do arise?

Compromise is the key people.
That.

Seriously, it's just boring for the rest of us. You associate TiBB with The Brotherhood now. Everytime you log in the obvious attempts at constently trying to keep the BH topic at the top of the page hardly helps.

TiBB to me now looks like a few decent members I enjoy talking to, a whole slew of annoying newbs, and ~THE KNIGHTS OF THE BROTHERHOOD.

It's not causing cancer or global warming, but it is making things really boring and tedious at it's most basic level for the rest of us.

Captain.Remy
22-12-2009, 03:07 PM
The Den is better. It is much more of an open place and anyone can talk in it :D

Definitely not. We asked me to **** off the day I decided to post to say Hello. Welcoming much ? Bullshit.

Marc
22-12-2009, 03:09 PM
However (not sure if this has been brought up yet) but the games on TiBB and these two main threads have kept people coming back to the site and it is making friends of people! So in that respect I don't see them being bad. However its the ego's involved and the complete contrast in the personalities of the people within each 'clique'.

lily.
22-12-2009, 03:09 PM
Come on Lili, don't act like there is no Den vs BH thing. You're playing on words really, it's the same thing. :wink: There is a big divide we will never resolve.


I know nothing about The Den Remy.. I've never posted in there. If there's rivalry then that's a seperate issue.

lily.
22-12-2009, 03:10 PM
However (not sure if this has been brought up yet) but the games on TiBB and these two main threads have kept people coming back to the site and it is making friends of people! So in that respect I don't see them being bad. However its the ego's involved and the complete contrast in the personalities of the people within each 'clique'.

So can we count you amongst the staff who are pro-BH then?

Stephanie
22-12-2009, 03:11 PM
are all the mods/admin in the bh?

Captain.Remy
22-12-2009, 03:11 PM
I know nothing about The Den Remy.. I've never posted in there. If there's rivalry then that's a seperate issue.

It's the issue we've been talking about: preventing people from posting in a thread.

lily.
22-12-2009, 03:12 PM
are all the mods/admin in the bh?


Two are on their official list.

Captain.Remy
22-12-2009, 03:12 PM
So can we count you amongst the staff who are pro-BH then?

Probably Ben and Mark. That's it.

Beastie
22-12-2009, 03:12 PM
Definitely not. We asked me to **** off the day I decided to post to say Hello. Welcoming much ? Bullshit.

More welcome than the bleeding brotherhood my friend.

WOMBAI
22-12-2009, 03:12 PM
So can we count you amongst the staff who are pro-BH then?

:thumbs:

Captain.Remy
22-12-2009, 03:12 PM
However (not sure if this has been brought up yet) but the games on TiBB and these two main threads have kept people coming back to the site and it is making friends of people! So in that respect I don't see them being bad. However its the ego's involved and the complete contrast in the personalities of the people within each 'clique'.

Finally someone talking sense. Jesus. :thumbs:

Stu
22-12-2009, 03:13 PM
I know nothing about The Den Remy.. I've never posted in there. If there's rivalry then that's a seperate issue.
That's another thing. The Brotherhood is so big now they form what ... a third of all the members who are really active on here? If anyone disagrees with them now due to the groups size it's seen as a 'rivalry' when in reality it's just people who ... don't ... like the brotherhood being there.

Also to people saying you may as well delete all the other social groups and cliques : That's ... kind of the point. It's not 'just another' group. Like it or not some people don't treat the brotherhood as just that.

lily.
22-12-2009, 03:14 PM
The BH is taking over TiBB. Fact.

There are a lot of members opposed to it. Fact.

Captain.Remy
22-12-2009, 03:14 PM
That.

Seriously, it's just boring for the rest of us. You associate TiBB with The Brotherhood now. Everytime you log in the obvious attempts at constently trying to keep the BH topic at the top of the page hardly helps.

TiBB to me now looks like a few decent members I enjoy talking to, a whole slew of annoying newbs, and ~THE KNIGHTS OF THE BROTHERHOOD.

It's not causing cancer or global warming, but it is making things really boring and tedious at it's most basic level for the rest of us.

Some members can be mixed tho. All BH people don't only talk with BH people. I take myself, Ben, Harry or Nate as an example.
And we are rather friends too, so no one is closed to other people, really.

Marc
22-12-2009, 03:15 PM
So can we count you amongst the staff who are pro-BH then?

I wouldn't make assumptions about me. I am completely neutral on this site and I favour neither the BH or Zeta or The Den or whatever there is. I just see, as I previously stated, that the BH and Zeta cliques DO keep people coming back to the site. And within both groups everybody is friends, without these groups people are likely to leave the site.

I wouldn't ban either group and I would assume that the other super-mods and admins wouldn't either because it would completely ruin the way that this site functions. If people are seriously peeved by the other group then may I suggest not talking to them or trying to sort out some sort of middle that you could all come to?

WOMBAI
22-12-2009, 03:15 PM
Finally someone talking sense. Jesus. :thumbs:

You do understand that YOU are one of those 'egos' involved don't you!

Captain.Remy
22-12-2009, 03:17 PM
That's another thing. The Brotherhood is so big now they form what ... a third of all the members who are really active on here? If anyone disagrees with them now due to the groups size it's seen as a 'rivalry' when in reality it's just people who ... don't ... like the brotherhood being there.

Also to people saying you may as well delete all the other social groups and cliques : That's ... kind of the point. It's not 'just another' group. Like it or not some people don't treat the brotherhood as just that.

But we can't help people joining the BH nor talking to us (without being members). It's nor our fault, I can't see the problem. And a lot of people who are in the list don't post any longer so...

Stu
22-12-2009, 03:18 PM
Some members can be mixed tho. All BH people don't only talk with BH people. I take myself, Ben, Harry or Nate as an example.
And we are rather friends too, so no one is closed to other people, really.
Yes I see your point, it's the other twats who are ruining it for the rest, really. People who treat the brotherhood like some sacred covenant.

I don't really consider people like Harry to be brotherhood members. There are two types of people, really. The people who go into the thread, talk, and leave it at that, and those who follow each other like stray dogs with scepters [how do dog's wield scepters?] humping each other at every available opportunity.

For instance : Someone who sees a brotherhood member make a good point in another, completely different, thread and who replies just to say 'Well said from a true brotherhood knight'.

It's those cumstains that grate on the nerves.

Captain.Remy
22-12-2009, 03:18 PM
You do understand that YOU are one of those 'egos' involved don't you!

Well, do I need to remember the epic comment you made about you being the super-member or some kind of bullshit like that ?
I might me one of them, but at least I'm trying to bring peace around the issue. You clearly are not.

lily.
22-12-2009, 03:18 PM
I wouldn't make assumptions about me. I am completely neutral on this site and I favour neither the BH or Zeta or The Den or whatever there is. I just see, as I previously stated, that the BH and Zeta cliques DO keep people coming back to the site. And within both groups everybody is friends, without these groups people are likely to leave the site.

I wouldn't ban either group and I would assume that the other super-mods and admins wouldn't either because it would completely ruin the way that this site functions. If people are seriously peeved by the other group then may I suggest not talking to them or trying to sort out some sort of middle that you could all come to?

We are trying to come to a compromise.

And, Zeta doesn't exist btw.. so you clearly aren't paying attention.

Marc
22-12-2009, 03:20 PM
We are trying to come to a compromise.

And, Zeta doesn't exist btw.. so you clearly aren't paying attention.

I know "they don't exist" but their members are still on the site. Why are you jumping down my throat? I'm not favouring anybody on this site, I would like to see some compromise and your clearly getting irritated by something so, if you don't mind, don't take it out on me.

Captain.Remy
22-12-2009, 03:20 PM
We are trying to come to a compromise.

And, Zeta doesn't exist btw.. so you clearly aren't paying attention.

But it used to be and it's where it all started, the BH against the Zetas even though I never understood why we had to be against each other ? We easily could have lived without arguing but oh well, what is done is done.

andyman
22-12-2009, 03:21 PM
Well said great knight.

lily.
22-12-2009, 03:21 PM
I know "they don't exist" but their members are still on the site. Why are you jumping down my throat? I'm not favouring anybody on this site, I would like to see some compromise and your clearly getting irritated by something so, if you don't mind, don't take it out on me.

I am not irritated at all. I'm pointing out a fact. Zeta does not exist, and your post before implied it did. I was correcting you and pointing out that you don't appear to pay much attention, so I fail to see how you could have a clear picture of what's going on here.

Captain.Remy
22-12-2009, 03:22 PM
Yes I see your point, it's the other twats who are ruining it for the rest, really. People who treat the brotherhood like some sacred covenant.

I don't really consider people like Harry to be brotherhood members. There are two types of people, really. The people who go into the thread, talk, and leave it at that, and those who follow each other like stray dogs with scepters [how do dog's wield scepters?] humping each other at every available opportunity.

For instance : Someone who sees a brotherhood member make a good point in another, completely different, thread and who replies just to say 'Well said from a true brotherhood knight'.

It's those cumstains that grate on the nerves.

Harry isn't even a member, he also posts in the Den so it clearly shows we are not stubborn ass bitches.
As for the rest, I can somehow get why it annoys people but it's not all the BH's fault, that's what I am trying to prove. We are not angels, not nice little perfect people but the blame isn't all ours.

lily.
22-12-2009, 03:22 PM
But it used to be and it's where it all started, the BH against the Zetas even though I never understood why we had to be against each other ? We easily could have lived without arguing but oh well, what is done is dine.


Were you also not paying attention in class that day Remy?

The BH was a joke.. I wasn't invited, so as a joke, I started the Cult of lili. I was rivalling Andy as a JOKE!

Now it's no longer a joke and no longer funny.

Harry!
22-12-2009, 03:23 PM
I have a good idea (good we find out)

We could have a trial period of the BH thread being locked say 48 hours and see what TiBB is like then. Make it longer if need be. Then we can see if the Anti - BH posts meen anything in that sence of the BH taking over TiBB?

What do you think.

Captain.Remy
22-12-2009, 03:23 PM
Were you also not paying attention in class that day Remy?

The BH was a joke.. I wasn't invited, so as a joke, I started the Cult of lili. I was rivalling Andy as a JOKE!

Now it's no longer a joke and no longer funny.

I know what happened but like I said, it went too serious and the thing got bigger than ourselves. I'm not denying that.

WOMBAI
22-12-2009, 03:23 PM
Well, do I need to remember the epic comment you made about you being the super-member or some kind of bullshit like that ?
I might me one of them, but at least I'm trying to bring peace around the issue. You clearly are not.

I have never described myself as super anything! Just shows how you have a tendency to exaggerate in an attempt to win an argument. What I actually said was those members who were 'stronger' (able to stand their ground in an argument with several members from the brotherhood) - how does that equate to super-member! You are definitely not trying to bring peace - as evidenced by the use of such incorrect, and emotive comments!

Marc
22-12-2009, 03:23 PM
I am not irritated at all. I'm pointing out a fact. Zeta does not exist, and your post before implied it did. I was correcting you and pointing out that you don't appear to pay much attention, so I fail to see how you could have a clear picture of what's going on here.

I agree I have been less active recent due to university. But its clear what's going on and my posts are just voicing my opinion (which are impartial) and suggesting some sort of solutions as a neutral member on TiBB.

lily.
22-12-2009, 03:25 PM
Then what do you propose as a solution Marc?

Marc
22-12-2009, 03:25 PM
I have a good idea (good we find out)

We could have a trial period of the BH thread being locked say 48 hours and see what TiBB is like then. Make it longer if need be. Then we can see if the Anti - BH posts meen anything in that sence of the BH taking over TiBB?

What do you think.

If that were to happen. We would have to create a thread for EVERYBODY in it to discuss. This would involve closing the den as well in order to get everybody together, a fresh start. No one would agree to that.

lily.
22-12-2009, 03:25 PM
I have a good idea (good we find out)

We could have a trial period of the BH thread being locked say 48 hours and see what TiBB is like then. Make it longer if need be. Then we can see if the Anti - BH posts meen anything in that sence of the BH taking over TiBB?

What do you think.

Thread lockage is not what people want.

People want it to be a social thread, not a group.

lily.
22-12-2009, 03:26 PM
If that were to happen. We would have to create a thread for EVERYBODY in it to discuss. This would involve closing the den as well in order to get everybody together, a fresh start. No one would agree to that.

Everyone would agree to that. ONE social thread for general chat.

setanta
22-12-2009, 03:27 PM
I have never described myself as super anything! Just shows how you have a tendency to exaggerate in an attempt to win an argument. What I actually said was those members who were 'stronger' (able to stand their ground in an argument with several members from the brotherhood) - how does that equate to super-member! You are definitely not trying to bring peace - as evidenced by the use of such incorrect, and emotive comments!

What did you have for breakfast hun cuz you're sizzling this afternoon! Sick burns all over the shop.

Captain.Remy
22-12-2009, 03:27 PM
I have never described myself as super anything! Just shows how you have a tendency to exaggerate in an attempt to win an argument. What I actually said was those members who were 'stronger' (able to stand their ground in an argument with several members from the brotherhood) - how does that equate to super-member! You are definitely not trying to bring peace - as evidenced by the use of such incorrect, and emotive comments!

Like I said, I didn't remember the name exactly but the purpose is the same so don't play on words with me. Oh well, you already did with the '4 years' comment.
You clearly don't know me at all and I've been involved in arguments, no denying but I also tried to bring peace a lot of times in here and sometimes it worked, sometimes it didn't unfortunately.
I'm trying to do it now. You clearly aren't.

Tom4784
22-12-2009, 03:28 PM
I have a good idea (good we find out)

We could have a trial period of the BH thread being locked say 48 hours and see what TiBB is like then. Make it longer if need be. Then we can see if the Anti - BH posts meen anything in that sence of the BH taking over TiBB?

What do you think.

I don't think it needs to be closed off really, At most it needs a little bit more mod attention to dissolve some of the tensions between members but that's it really. There's no need to get rid of it but considering the list of people against it the most diplomatic thing would be to look at the BH and see how we can amend it, the situation can easily be sorted out with all parties satisfied.

lily.
22-12-2009, 03:28 PM
Ok who is in favour of ONE SOCIAL THREAD... Merging BH/Zeta/Den/Lounge etc, into one thread!

Jack_
22-12-2009, 03:28 PM
Well this has been nearly an hour long read.

I'm with Stu on this one. I'm all for the thread staying, however it's the stupid 'Brotherhood Knight's and bullshit terms like that that I can't stand. Also, as Stu mentioned, the way in which some of the members will follow each other round the forum agreeing with each others posts just so they can stick the phrase 'Sir ____' in. Sometimes even when they don't agree. That's what annoys me.

Marc
22-12-2009, 03:29 PM
The problem is lili you can't speak on behalf of everybody. I reckon the BH would be pretty peeved as would the usual's in The Den.

Captain.Remy
22-12-2009, 03:29 PM
If that were to happen. We would have to create a thread for EVERYBODY in it to discuss. This would involve closing the den as well in order to get everybody together, a fresh start. No one would agree to that.

As long as the BH is not closed, it sounds cool. If the BH is closed, we'll all get somewhere else and it will be worse for everyone so it's up to you.

Stephanie
22-12-2009, 03:29 PM
it took me ages to read too jack.

Stu
22-12-2009, 03:30 PM
The problem is lili you can't speak on behalf of everybody. I reckon the BH would be pretty peeved as would the usual's in The Den.
On the other hand we have this great big bloody list on the first page.

Take a peek, if you will.

WOMBAI
22-12-2009, 03:31 PM
Like I said, I didn't remember the name exactly but the purpose is the same so don't play on words with me. Oh well, you already did with the '4 years' comment.
You clearly don't know me at all and I've been involved in arguments, no denying but I also tried to bring peace a lot of times in here and sometimes it worked, sometimes it didn't unfortunately.
I'm trying to do it now. You clearly aren't.

You just did play with words! You have been doing it throughout the 'debate'!

How can I not respond to such false comments!

Harry!
22-12-2009, 03:31 PM
Well I did say that 'good we will find out'. Had a brainwave and had to post it!

As lili said have a post for EVERYBODY to post in. No more devides!

Marc
22-12-2009, 03:31 PM
On the other hand we have this great big bloody list on the first page.

Take a peek, if you will.

I have seen it. Its just another example of tension on this forum... the more you guys protest then the less likely they will stop.

Stu
22-12-2009, 03:32 PM
As long as the BH is not closed, it sounds cool. If the BH is closed, we'll all get somewhere else and it will be worse for everyone so it's up to you.
Not really. The daft linguo would stop, for one. Your not monsters, I don't think anybody cares if you all 'get somewhere else'.

But the fact that you are bigging up the threat of your own people getting into other threads as an argument for keeping the BH open does say something...

Captain.Remy
22-12-2009, 03:32 PM
You just did play with words! You have been doing it throughout the 'debate'!

How can I not respond to such false comments!

No I didn't play on words. You did and people saw I with the '4 years' comment you twisted so badly. I didn't get the exact term but the idea is the same: don't try to teach something you clearly aren't able to apply to yourself.

Harry!
22-12-2009, 03:32 PM
Ok who is in favour of ONE SOCIAL THREAD... Merging BH/Zeta/Den/Lounge etc, into one thread!

ME!!!!

WOMBAI
22-12-2009, 03:33 PM
What did you have for breakfast hun cuz you're sizzling this afternoon! Sick burns all over the shop.

Nothing yet - got caught up on this damn thing! Going to treat myself with something nice soon! :joker:

Captain.Remy
22-12-2009, 03:34 PM
Not really. The daft linguo would stop, for one. Your not monsters, I don't think anybody cares if you all 'get somewhere else'.

But the fact that you are bigging up the threat of your own people getting into other threads as an argument for keeping the BH open does say something...

It'd never stop and you know it is true. BH thread or not, we'll still have our own fun and people could join if they want to. The whole 'one social' thread will fail because we'll never get along.

lily.
22-12-2009, 03:34 PM
I made a poll. Feel free to add comments too. It's worth discussing.

http://www.thisisbigbrother.com/forums/showthread.php?t=125077

Locke.
22-12-2009, 03:34 PM
The Knights thing is a joke- obviously we all know that we are on a forum and not running around a battlefield in the 15th Century.

As for some members going in other threads and agreeing with everything other BH members say, I don't know about that because I hardly read any other threads nowadays.

And I'm against all the threads being merged, and I'm sure most BH members and people that post regularly in The Den would be aswell. The BH was made because all members have a lot of things in common and like to talk between each other and not have things that we aren't interested in posted all over the thread, so merging them would defeat the purpose as to why we made the thread.

And as for the list on the first page, that hasn't been updated for ages and I'm all for that being deleted.

lily.
22-12-2009, 03:35 PM
And as for the list on the first page, that hasn't been updated for ages and I'm all for that being deleted.


That's a good start. It's nice to see people willing to compromise David.

Captain.Remy
22-12-2009, 03:36 PM
The Knights thing is a joke- obviously we all know that we are on a forum and not running around a battlefield in the 15th Century.

As for some members going in other threads and agreeing with everything other BH members say, I don't know about that because I hardly read any other threads nowadays.

And I'm against all the threads being merged, and I'm sure most BH members and people that post regularly in The Den would be aswell. The BH was made because all members have a lot of things in common and like to talk between each other and not have things that we aren't interested in posted all over the thread, so merging them would defeat the purpose as to why we made the thread.

And as for the list on the first page, that hasn't been updated for ages and I'm all for that being deleted.

I'm for it to be deleted too. We don't do that anymore to be honest. I couldn't agree more to what you said.

setanta
22-12-2009, 03:36 PM
Nothing yet - got caught up on this damn thing! Going to treat myself with something nice soon! :joker:

I'm taking you out. My shout! :hugesmile: Well played fraulein.

Jack_
22-12-2009, 03:36 PM
Well if the memberlist is willing to be deleted, then I see no reason why it shouldn't stay.

lily.
22-12-2009, 03:37 PM
The problem is lili you can't speak on behalf of everybody. I reckon the BH would be pretty peeved as would the usual's in The Den.


I'm not trying to speak for everyone. I'm trying to gather opinions and I'd think majority vote would have some value.

If anyone doesn't want ONE thread, that shows their unwillingness to integrate in my opinion.

Jessica.
22-12-2009, 03:37 PM
why do members keep comparing the den to the brotherhood, they have about the same popularity but the similarity ends there. the den is just a thread where people can talk to each other without sticking to one subject. the only rules are the ones set by the admins.

Marc
22-12-2009, 03:38 PM
I'm not trying to speak for everyone. I'm trying to gather opinions and I'd think majority vote would have some value.

If anyone doesn't want ONE thread, that shows their unwillingness to integrate in my opinion.

I knew when I posted that, that you might think I meant you singlely but I meant in general. 1 person doesn't know what everybody else wants. (sorry)

Try creating the group and see what happens. Its a valid idea

lily.
22-12-2009, 03:39 PM
I knew when I posted that, that you might think I meant you singlely but I meant in general. 1 person doesn't know what everybody else wants. (sorry)

Try creating the group and see what happens. Its a valid idea

It will only work if everyone agrees to lock the old ones, and possibly have a week-long-trial of a new social thread. We could have someone neutral (such as yourself) choosing a neutral name for it, and everyone could just use it for non-specific chat.

WOMBAI
22-12-2009, 03:40 PM
I'm taking you out. My shout! :hugesmile: Well played fraulein.

An offer not to be refused! :joker:

Tom4784
22-12-2009, 03:42 PM
The Knights thing is a joke- obviously we all know that we are on a forum and not running around a battlefield in the 15th Century.

As for some members going in other threads and agreeing with everything other BH members say, I don't know about that because I hardly read any other threads nowadays.

And I'm against all the threads being merged, and I'm sure most BH members and people that post regularly in The Den would be aswell. The BH was made because all members have a lot of things in common and like to talk between each other and not have things that we aren't interested in posted all over the thread, so merging them would defeat the purpose as to why we made the thread.

And as for the list on the first page, that hasn't been updated for ages and I'm all for that being deleted.

Deleting the list will dissolve a lot of tension, good idea David.

Marc
22-12-2009, 03:43 PM
It will only work if everyone agrees to lock the old ones, and possibly have a week-long-trial of a new social thread. We could have someone neutral (such as yourself) choosing a neutral name for it, and everyone could just use it for non-specific chat.

Closing the BH would cause havoc.. I'm not going to be responsible for it as I don't see it bring ANY solution to the problem. The BH members wouldn't be happy and neither would the other people on the forum as there would be chaos.

I don't mind making a name up.

Tom4784
22-12-2009, 03:44 PM
Closing the BH would cause havoc.. I'm not going to be responsible for it as I don't see it bring ANY solution to the problem. The BH members wouldn't be happy and neither would the other people on the forum as there would be chaos.

I don't mind making a name up.

How about The Base? I dunno.

A trial's worth a try I think and if that doesn't work the old threads can be re-opened although I think things can be settled without changing things majorly.

lily.
22-12-2009, 03:46 PM
It's not going to happen, because the BH members who don't want it to happen clearly have the staff running scared. Marc has just illustrated this by his reluctance to be the one to close it.

Billy
22-12-2009, 03:47 PM
So basically it's the BH running TIBB, not the mods and admins, noice.

Captain.Remy
22-12-2009, 03:48 PM
It's not going to happen, because the BH members who don't want it to happen clearly have the staff running scared. Marc has just illustrated this by his reluctance to be the one to close it.

Sexy, I asked you something in the Brotherhood Compromise Poll, it seems rather appropriate to what you want. :wink:

Locke.
22-12-2009, 03:48 PM
If we was running TiBB this thread would have been locked last night.

WOMBAI
22-12-2009, 03:50 PM
If we was running TiBB this thread would have been locked last night.

Dictator! Scared of opposition! :joker:

Marc
22-12-2009, 03:50 PM
lili If you want the BH closed then refer to one of the Admins.

As I have said I am neutral christ alive.

lily.
22-12-2009, 03:51 PM
You are neutral Marc, but you have expressed unwillingness to close it for fear of repercussions. That speaks volumes to be honest. I refer you to this post:

Closing the BH would cause havoc.. I'm not going to be responsible for it as I don't see it bring ANY solution to the problem. The BH members wouldn't be happy and neither would the other people on the forum as there would be chaos.

Locke.
22-12-2009, 03:52 PM
Dictator! Scared of opposition! :joker:

Well no actually, this was all discussed last night and I thought we'd already got to the bottom of it, so clearly not.

And yeah terrified of some random woman on a forum that I'd never even heard of before today.

Marc
22-12-2009, 03:52 PM
You are neutral Marc, but you have expressed unwillingness to close it because of fear of repercussions. That speaks volumes to be honest.

Yes to them and to the rest of the forum as a result of the BH's consequential actions.

EDIT: they would also see it as me doing 'you' a favour, and they would therefore feel I was being bias towards yourself

lily.
22-12-2009, 03:53 PM
Marc, do you think that's a good situation?

Marc
22-12-2009, 03:53 PM
Marc, do you think that's a good situation?

Do I think what is a good situation?

WOMBAI
22-12-2009, 03:54 PM
Well no actually, this was all discussed last night and I thought we'd already got to the bottom of it, so clearly not.

And yeah terrified of some random woman on a forum that I'd never even heard of before today.

Far too tough and macho to be scared of a mere woman! :joker:

Captain.Remy
22-12-2009, 03:54 PM
You are neutral Marc, but you have expressed unwillingness to close it for fear of repercussions. That speaks volumes to be honest. I refer you to this post:

He said it because he is right. It would create madness. And you don't want that do you ?

lily.
22-12-2009, 03:54 PM
Yes to them and to the rest of the forum as a result of the BH's consequential actions.

EDIT: they would also see it as me doing 'you' a favour, and they would therefore feel I was being bias towards yourself

1. I haven't personally asked you to close it.

2. No matter whether you close it or not, someone is going to accuse you of bias.

3. Your reasons for not closing it were based on how the BH would react.

Captain.Remy
22-12-2009, 03:55 PM
Far too tough and macho to be scared of a mere woman! :joker:

Don't you ever change your speech ? No one is scared of you and no one knew you until today so stop being so self focussed and get real. We are actually having a good debate so don't spam it please.

Marc
22-12-2009, 03:55 PM
1. I haven't personally asked you to close it.

2. No matter whether you close it or not, someone is going to accuse you of bias.

3. Your reasons for not closing it were based on how the BH would react.

Yeah and I believe that closing it would be bad for the WHOLE FORUM. Not for the BH members because I know they wouldn't be happy thus they would create tension throughout the forum and will probably just make another thread.

lily.
22-12-2009, 03:55 PM
Do I think what is a good situation?

Do you think it's a good situation when staff fear reprisals from a large forum clique?

He said it because he is right. It would create madness. And you don't want that do you ?

Is that a threat?

Tom4784
22-12-2009, 03:56 PM
I've said it before but instead of radical action just get a mod to keep an eye out for trouble in the thread, get someone like Vicky who doesn't post as much on the main boards but it neutral do it or something. Then there's no bias and everyone's happy.

lily.
22-12-2009, 03:56 PM
Why should a mod constantly be watching one thread?

Why can't we all integrate? Why is that so unthinkable?

Marc
22-12-2009, 03:58 PM
Do you think it's a good situation when staff fear reprisals from a large forum clique?


Well let me ask you this... have any of the Admins done anything about it? Has any other super-mod been in this thread trying to somewhat settle this problem?

I personally think that what I have said previous to this comment... chaos etc. is enough to influence my actions.

WOMBAI
22-12-2009, 04:00 PM
Don't you ever change your speech ? No one is scared of you and no one knew you until today so stop being so self focussed and get real. We are actually having a good debate so don't spam it please.

Oh shut up! I neither expect or want anyone to be scared of me! Isn't that more the 'brotherhoods' style! I have been in on this debate from very early on - so don't continue with your attempts to undermine my views!

setanta
22-12-2009, 04:00 PM
Don't you ever change your speech ? No one is scared of you and no one knew you until today so stop being so self focussed and get real. We are actually having a good debate so don't spam it please.

I'd be more courteous to a lady who's owned you for the last couple of hours Remy or else she might go off on another one.

Captain.Remy
22-12-2009, 04:02 PM
Is that a threat?

No, why is that ? I didn't mean too lol I asked you a question. Because it will happen and you know it. It will not work.

WOMBAI
22-12-2009, 04:03 PM
I'd be more courteous to a lady who's owned you for the last couple of hours Remy or else she might go off on another one.

He should be scared, mighty scared! I might throw a cotton wool ball at him!:joker:

Stephanie
22-12-2009, 04:03 PM
well if everyone tried to get along then all the madness wouldn't happen.

Captain.Remy
22-12-2009, 04:04 PM
I'd be more courteous to a lady who's owned you for the last couple of hours Remy or else she might go off on another one.

She didn't owe my whatsoever, I proved I was right many times. She doesn't want to listen so she's being deaf right now. Fair enough.

Tom4784
22-12-2009, 04:04 PM
Why should a mod constantly be watching one thread?

Why can't we all integrate? Why is that so unthinkable?

I'd like integration but It's not gonna work if some parties aren't for it. If that's what people decide then I'm all for it. Whatever happens I'll be alright with it really.

Marc
22-12-2009, 04:04 PM
well if everyone tried to get along then all the madness wouldn't happen.

Exactly. I am being made to feel as if I'm somehow reasonable for everybody not getting along, its ridiculous.

This BH/Den stuff is a cancer that has spread too much. Its inoperable and would involve a hell of a lot of banning of members to cure!

Captain.Remy
22-12-2009, 04:05 PM
Oh shut up! I neither expect or want anyone to be scared of me! Isn't that more the 'brotherhoods' style! I have been in on this debate from very early on - so don't continue with your attempts to undermine my views!

Undermine your views ? How come ? I thought we were having a debate.

setanta
22-12-2009, 04:05 PM
She didn't owe my whatsoever, I proved I was right many times. She doesn't want to listen so she's being deaf right now. Fair enough.

She did Remy, on many occassions, as did Lili.

Captain.Remy
22-12-2009, 04:06 PM
She did Remy, on many occassions, as did Lili.

Come on, I proved all my points, all of them are valid while WOMBAI's ones were all about dictatorships and opposition. I mean, is that all she got ? Please, get it real.
My arguments are damn strong, the only worth arguing here is Lili because she has point to prove and she is interesting to debate with.

Stephanie
22-12-2009, 04:07 PM
so no-one else has a point then?

Marc
22-12-2009, 04:08 PM
so no-one else has a point then?

A lot of good points. Just not any good solutions.

A big amalgamated thread is one.

WOMBAI
22-12-2009, 04:08 PM
Undermine your views ? How come ? I thought we were having a debate.

Have you forgotten your own words - so soon! I am not spamming anything and have you looked at my total posts - didn't make all those in a day! :joker:

Wildcat!
22-12-2009, 04:10 PM
I hate to say this, but you guys really have too much time on your hand, if you care weather a thread on a forum gets closed!!

Ive seen it all now.

Captain.Remy
22-12-2009, 04:11 PM
Have you forgotten your own words - so soon! I am not spamming anything and have you looked at my total posts - didn't make all those in a day! :joker:

That was an irony about the debate. We were having a good debate earlier on tho I got to say. Insult me if you want, play your feminism card or your dictatorship crap, I don't care anymore.
I'll get interested again when you have valid points to make.

setanta
22-12-2009, 04:12 PM
Come on, I proved all my points, all of them are valid while WOMBAI's ones were all about dictatorships and opposition. I mean, is that all she got ? Please, get it real.
My arguments are damn strong, the only worth arguing here is Lili because she has point to prove and she is interesting to debate with.

Wow, that's amazing. I was wondering how far your self righteousness extends to but you've flown off my scale and into la la land if you think that your arguments are strong, since they've been quashed on a number of occassions. Actually strong is an important word when we deal with your form of debating, which largely consists of bigging yourself up by belittling others -by the way, who's self focused here?

andyman
22-12-2009, 04:14 PM
Just want to say that I find Wombai and setanta very vile attacking members.. Don't like them, never will.

I'm sure both will be very upset by this bombshell.

*Jumps on horse and rides away*

WOMBAI
22-12-2009, 04:14 PM
That was an irony about the debate. We were having a good debate earlier on tho I got to say. Insult me if you want, play your feminism card or your dictatorship crap, I don't care anymore.
I'll get interested again when you have valid points to make.

Unfortunately for you - you don't appear to understand 'valid points' - even when clearly written in black and white. So lets agree that neither of us care anymore!

Captain.Remy
22-12-2009, 04:15 PM
Wow, that's amazing. I was wondering how far your self righteousness extends to but you've flown off my scale and into la la land if you think that your arguments are strong, since they've been quashed on a number of occassions. Actually strong is an important word when we deal with your form of debating, which largely consists of bigging yourself up by belittling others -by the way, who's self focused here?

None of my arguments got "quashed' because I provided proofs and facts while WOMBAI didn't and moaned the whole way through and twisting people's comments to make her look good. You can't defend that really.
I'm not self-focussed at all right now, you said things about my arguments, I'm replying. Simple as.

Same thing for her applies to you. Stop being a sheep and stop following WOMBAI like a little puppy. When you'll have something decent and interesting to debate about, I'll be there.

setanta
22-12-2009, 04:17 PM
None of my arguments got "quashed' because I provided proofs and facts while WOMBAI didn't and moaned the whole way through and twisting people's comments to make her look good. You can't defend that really.
I'm not self-focussed at all right now, you said things about my arguments, I'm replying. Simple as.

Same thing for her applies to you. Stop being a sheep and stop following WOMBAI like a little puppy. When you'll have something decent and interesting to debate about, I'll be there.

You really need to read back over this thread Remy. And now you're calling me a sheep? Lol, oh the irony of it all. Anyway, yeah, read back over it.

Actually you lot are more like wolves than sheep.

Captain.Remy
22-12-2009, 04:17 PM
Unfortunately for you - you don't appear to understand 'valid points' - even when clearly written in black and white. So lets agree that neither of us care anymore!

We won't agree on this anyway so let's say we leave it as it right ? :wink:

WOMBAI
22-12-2009, 04:19 PM
Just want to say that I find Wombai and setanta very vile attacking members.. Don't like them, never will.

I'm sure both will be very upset by this bombshell.

*Jumps on horse and rides away*

I can assure you that the feeling is very mutual! But as you and your other brotherhood members were the ones doing the attacking - very pointless comment to make! Some people do not handle opposition very well- do they? :joker:

Just got my newly sharpened arrow aimed at that poor horses bottom - hope it hurts you more than it does him! :joker:

Captain.Remy
22-12-2009, 04:19 PM
You really need to read back over this thread Remy. And now you're calling me a sheep? Lol, oh the irony of it all. Anyway, yeah, read back over it.

Actually you lot are more like wolves than sheep.

I'd rather be a wolf but having my own opinion than following a trend.

setanta
22-12-2009, 04:22 PM
I'd rather be a wolf but having my own opinion than following a trend.

Back to the castle Sir Remy and tell them of your ordeal at the hands of a bunch of rebellious skunks.

WOMBAI
22-12-2009, 04:23 PM
I'd rather be a wolf but having my own opinion than following a trend.

Waste of time Setanta - he just doesn't get it! Seems he will go through life - seeing what he wants to see! Not much can be done to change that, I guess!

Captain.Remy
22-12-2009, 04:25 PM
Waste of time Setanta - he just doesn't get it! Seems he will go through life - seeing what he wants to see! Not much can be done to change that, I guess!

You know nothing about me and what I have been through so no advice on life. Quite frankly, if following your advices means becoming like you, well, no thanks.

Let's end it now, it's a waste of time right people ? It's all good. :hugesmile:

Beastie
22-12-2009, 04:37 PM
Jesus, how many pages since last night? lol

Captain.Remy
22-12-2009, 04:39 PM
Jesus, how many pages since last night? lol

10 at least haha

King Gizzard
22-12-2009, 04:43 PM
For gods sake its not that bad.

Were just a group of mates who enjoy talking in a thread, sometimes unessary arguements are caused when people enter the thread, but most of the time were just having fun talking. Sorry but this is stupid.

lily.
22-12-2009, 04:45 PM
Exactly. I am being made to feel as if I'm somehow reasonable for everybody not getting along, its ridiculous.

This BH/Den stuff is a cancer that has spread too much. Its inoperable and would involve a hell of a lot of banning of members to cure!

I am not holding you responsible for everybody not getting along.

However I'm stating that when the mods/admin are restricted in their duties for fear of reprisals from a large forum clique, I think it's a sad state of affairs.

Enid
22-12-2009, 04:48 PM
This has gotten way out of hand now. Some of you are making a fuss over nothing and getting yourselves involved just to see what will happen.

It's quite petty now actually. If you hate the BH so much, block them and don't enter their thread.

King Gizzard
22-12-2009, 04:49 PM
Enid said it in one, as per

lily.
22-12-2009, 04:53 PM
This has gotten way out of hand now. Some of you are making a fuss over nothing and getting yourselves involved just to see what will happen.

It's quite petty now actually. If you hate the BH so much, block them and don't enter their thread.

I don't hate them at all.

Enid
22-12-2009, 04:55 PM
I don't hate them at all.
Well, the same still applies.

Leave them be.

Tom
22-12-2009, 04:56 PM
LMFAO @ some of the names on there and the hypocrisy of those members

lily.
22-12-2009, 05:09 PM
Which ones... ?

Go on Tom.. name and shame.. you know you want to..

andyman
22-12-2009, 05:12 PM
Tom is right.. From this day forth you will be known as Sir Tom.

lily.
22-12-2009, 05:14 PM
lol Andy.. ya nob.

Jords
22-12-2009, 05:15 PM
Im not joining because at the end of the day its just a bit of fun, I know some of the bh like a bit of trouble, and Ive given it a few times, but yeah we sort of get on when you settle differences, except PJ he hates me :laugh:. But you cant ban the whole of bh it wouldnt be fair on all the members who are fine within it.

LemonJam
22-12-2009, 05:15 PM
To be honest, it doesn't and hasn't bothered me too much. The members keep their BHness in the thread and I've never felt inferior compared to them.

Tom
22-12-2009, 05:16 PM
Which ones... ?

Go on Tom.. name and shame.. you know you want to..

Shaun
MrGaryy
Twilight
Stephanie (sort of)

Brad.
22-12-2009, 05:16 PM
To be honest, it doesn't and hasn't bothered me too much. The members keep their BHness in the thread and I've never felt inferior compared to them.

Thank **** a few of the neutral people agree we aren't all bad. :)

lily.
22-12-2009, 05:17 PM
Shaun
MrGaryy
Twilight
Stephanie (sort of)


Kudos for actually naming.. I didn't think you would.

lily.
22-12-2009, 05:19 PM
You can't beat a bit of forum-drama..

MrGaryy
22-12-2009, 05:20 PM
Shaun
MrGaryy
Twilight
Stephanie (sort of)

-feebly raises hand-
I didn't actually asked to be put on this.

-mouths to linda 'I'M SORRY sad/'-

lily.
22-12-2009, 05:21 PM
haha.. on what? the list.. on the first post? oh, it's gone now lol

Alf
22-12-2009, 05:23 PM
"let the bells ring out for christmas"

Tom
22-12-2009, 05:24 PM
Kudos for actually naming.. I didn't think you would.

Well you know me, always straight to the point and not the type to back down :joker:

lily.
22-12-2009, 05:26 PM
True. Which is probably why we clash so much.

lily.
22-12-2009, 07:16 PM
Some agreement towards compromise was made.. The thread would stay, but the userbars and the memberlist would go, making it a social thread.

Since then, the BH has backtracked, and Andy has decided the following:

Think i'll leave it for the Mods to sort out if they feel the need to change anything then i'll let them

Am not to arsed about the userbars didn't think anyone still used them, as far as the list is concerned after the BH awards the award winners will be on the first page

InOne
22-12-2009, 07:18 PM
:nono:

Enid
22-12-2009, 07:19 PM
I think that is reasonable, lili. :thumbs:

Shaun
22-12-2009, 07:20 PM
The Lounge was good enough :(

lily.
22-12-2009, 07:31 PM
Bring it back then Shaun.

andyman
22-12-2009, 07:46 PM
Yeah bring it back..

Captain.Remy
22-12-2009, 07:46 PM
If The Lounge is back then there is no need for all this stuff around the BH. I'd gladly post in The Lounge too.
The Lounge couldn't be any more neutral.

As for Andy, we know what the mods will decide.

alc09
22-12-2009, 07:48 PM
Lili, as you are someone who has admitted you don't go into threads like the BH and Den, why all the fuss?

Harry!
22-12-2009, 07:49 PM
http://www.thisisbigbrother.com/forums/showthread.php?t=96639

Here is the Lounge link, And it isnt locked.

lily.
22-12-2009, 08:00 PM
Alc, do you not pay attention at all... I'm always in the BH thread.