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Jack_
02-01-2010, 09:19 PM
Well? This includes insulting them, avoiding them, finding it disgusting, hating them because of it, etc etc.

Just be honest. I'm interested to see. :tongue:

Enid
02-01-2010, 09:20 PM
Nah. I make homophobic jokes though.

Stephanie
02-01-2010, 09:20 PM
nah

Brad.
02-01-2010, 09:21 PM
Nah. I make homophobic jokes though.

This

Jords
02-01-2010, 09:21 PM
Nope!

Princess
02-01-2010, 09:22 PM
Nope! Sure half of my friends are either gay or bi.

ILoveTRW
02-01-2010, 09:22 PM
no, but i like to pretend i am

Patrick
02-01-2010, 09:22 PM
Nah Cba hating them
But theres a gay lad in our class and hes an annoying ****ing turd.
He walks about smacking people thinking he can get away with it because if we hit him back its 'homophobic'

InOne
02-01-2010, 09:22 PM
No

Wildcat!
02-01-2010, 09:23 PM
Glad to say, I am not!! :)
And not forcing anything trying to be PC. I know a lot of peopel who arent homophobic, for PC reasons.
I used to be pretty ignoreant about Homo Sexuality, but I have had great friends, and experiences, that taught me a lot.

I feel bad for people who are homophobic really.

Tom
02-01-2010, 09:23 PM
I'll be honest, I think I am a bit, I don't mean to be though (or want to be), its a bit irrational really

I make loads of homophobic jokes as well :joker:

arista
02-01-2010, 09:23 PM
Well? This includes insulting them, avoiding them, finding it disgusting, hating them because of it, etc etc.

Just be honest. I'm interested to see. :tongue:


Do you really think
a Anti Gay person will post on this thread?


You are having a Laugh!

\PJ/
02-01-2010, 09:23 PM
nope but like enid and brad i make jokes

Captain.Remy
02-01-2010, 09:24 PM
Yeah, burn all these ****ing homos. :laugh:

No seriously, people do whatever they want with their body, it's not my problem but it's not my thing really. I cannot see the attraction for another guy, and I can't see why a lot of them are acting like camp fabulous queens. It doesn't make them any favour. I mean, you can be gay but still being masculine and not looking like a girl. That does irritate me to be honest.

Apart from that, it's not my problem.

Chantel
02-01-2010, 09:24 PM
No, most of my male friends are gay/bisexual

Locke.
02-01-2010, 09:24 PM
No, I was throughout school though. Changed a lot since leaving, really.

I really hate how camp and (imo) stupid a lot of gay guys are though, and can understand why some people are homophobic.

King Gizzard
02-01-2010, 09:25 PM
No deffinetly not, but I guess I'm guilty of saying ''ahh thats gay!'' and using gay as a term like that if you get what i mean, but I think its just got a general meaning now and not linked to being homophobic

Tom
02-01-2010, 09:25 PM
No, I was throughout school though. Changed a lot since leaving, really.

I really hate how camp and (imo) stupid a lot of gay guys are though, and can understand why some people are homophobic.

People always are in school, then reality hits in the first September out of school (when in college) and noone actually cares

Jack_
02-01-2010, 09:25 PM
Do you really think
a Anti Gay person will post on this thread?


You are having a Laugh!

Considering that is the idea of the thread, yes. I'm not trying to pour hate onto any homophobic members of this forum, here, I'm merely asking people to be honest with themselves and the rest of the forum. Quite frankly, if they can be homophobic, they can admit to it.

Chels
02-01-2010, 09:26 PM
i'm the same as enid, brad and pj.

Smithy
02-01-2010, 09:26 PM
lmao at first glance it looks like it says
Are you homophobic jack

but no jst mae jokes lol

Twilight
02-01-2010, 09:27 PM
Nope gay guyz are cute

Jack_
02-01-2010, 09:27 PM
Nah. I make homophobic jokes though.

As do I.

A joke is a joke. Nothing more, nothing less.

Stephanie
02-01-2010, 09:28 PM
i hate gay people

Enid
02-01-2010, 09:28 PM
Nope gay guyz are cute
:laugh2:

Jack_
02-01-2010, 09:29 PM
i hate gay people

:joker:

Ross
02-01-2010, 09:29 PM
Nope gay guyz are cute

like who twilight x

MrGaryy
02-01-2010, 09:30 PM
Yeah, burn all these ****ing homos. :laugh:

No seriously, people do whatever they want with their body, it's not my problem but it's not my thing really. I cannot see the attraction for another guy, and I can't see why a lot of them are acting like camp fabulous queens. It doesn't make them any favour. I mean, you can be gay but still being masculine and not looking like a girl. That does irritate me to be honest.

Apart from that, it's not my problem.

most gays can;t help it, its part of their make up, they naturally act more feminine.

and to answer your questions, yes I am, gays are disgusting. who do they think they are ****ing going around, sucking cock. my god.

Tom
02-01-2010, 09:31 PM
most gays can;t help it, its part of their make up, they naturally act more feminine.

and to answer your questions, yes I am, gays are disgusting. who do they think they are ****ing going around, sucking cock. my god.

OTT ones who play on it can help it

MrGaryy
02-01-2010, 09:32 PM
OTT ones who play on it can help it

I suppose it depends on your definition on OTT. Would you describe myself as OTT camp? [be honest idc anyway LOL]

Enid
02-01-2010, 09:32 PM
The only ones I dislike are those that like to flaunt their sexuality and use it as an excuse to behave like a moron.

InOne
02-01-2010, 09:34 PM
We had a discussion on this the other night eh Gary lol

Ross
02-01-2010, 09:34 PM
The only ones I dislike are those that like to flaunt their sexuality and use it as an excuse to behave like a moron.

omg babezzzz i ADOREZ ur hair n mekk up lyk hehe. -dances infront of ur face doin da splitz-

MrGaryy
02-01-2010, 09:36 PM
We had a discussion on this the other night eh Gary lol

yeah we ur well deep xx.

LOL

Tom
02-01-2010, 09:36 PM
I suppose it depends on your definition on OTT. Would you describe myself as OTT camp? [be honest idc anyway LOL]

Not that bad, but I'm talking Marco off Big Brother here

Enid
02-01-2010, 09:36 PM
omg babezzzz i ADOREZ ur hair n mekk up lyk hehe. -dances infront of ur face doin da splitz-
Exactly.

And that Dennis from BB9.

Ross
02-01-2010, 09:37 PM
Exactly.

And that Dennis from BB9.

Yeah. I love yer Enid!

MrGaryy
02-01-2010, 09:38 PM
Not that bad, but I'm talking Marco off Big Brother here

both Marco and Dennis were OTT and clearly had some issues with their sexuality there. but a lot of feminine gays perhaps like myself, it;s in their genes to act the way they do, they can't help it, it's how they're naturally inclined to act that way. So when people say that most gays who act girly or camp are putting it on to annoy people or to stand out or for attention, it;s really unfair imo.

Tom
02-01-2010, 09:40 PM
both Marco and Dennis were OTT and clearly had some issues with their sexuality there. but a lot of feminine gays perhaps like myself, it;s in their genes to act the way they do, they can't help it, it's how they're naturally inclined to act that way. So when people say that most gays who act girly or camp are putting it on to annoy people or to stand out or for attention, it;s really unfair imo.

Theres a bit of a difference jumping up and down clapping and screaming at the slightest thing than acting a bit camp though

Definitely put on

Stu
02-01-2010, 09:42 PM
Theres a bit of a difference jumping up and down clapping and screaming at the slightest thing than acting a bit camp though

Definitely put on
To be fair I don't think it's put on. Camp men just get these tourette like bursts of girly energy all the time. S'all in the genes, innit.

andyman
02-01-2010, 09:43 PM
Look I got nothing against them gays, Jews and blacks.. In fact we should all unite and kick out them asians!

Ross
02-01-2010, 09:44 PM
Look I got nothing against them gays, Jews and blacks.. In fact we should all unite and kick out them asians!

hey big boy ;)

Ninastar
02-01-2010, 09:50 PM
No Im not.
I absolutley hate it when boys say they hate gay people yet they love lesbians?

andyman
02-01-2010, 09:53 PM
Fek off Ross you dirty gay/bi, and stop looking at my man bulge.

andyman
02-01-2010, 09:55 PM
No Im not.
I absolutley hate it when boys say they hate gay people yet they love lesbians?Nah not real lesbians, vile things.

Enid
02-01-2010, 09:55 PM
Fek off Ross you dirty gay/bi, and stop looking at my man bulge.
As opposed to a lady bulge? What is that? Actually.. I don't wanna know... :laugh:

_Seth
02-01-2010, 09:56 PM
No I'm not, but I hate it when guys are overly camp. I know it's just part of who they are, though.

andyman
02-01-2010, 09:59 PM
As opposed to a lady bulge? What is that? Actually.. I don't wanna know... :laugh:Lady Gaga has a lady bulge.

Enid
02-01-2010, 09:59 PM
Lady Gaga has a lady bulge.
Maybe she should change her name to that. :P

Tom
02-01-2010, 10:01 PM
No Im not.
I absolutley hate it when boys say they hate gay people yet they love lesbians?

lesbians in porn, yes, real lesbians, probably not

Ross
02-01-2010, 10:02 PM
Fek off Ross you dirty gay/bi, and stop looking at my man bulge.

bi. how mean thought you loved me :(

Ninastar
02-01-2010, 10:03 PM
Nah not real lesbians, vile things.

Fair enough.

Enid
02-01-2010, 10:04 PM
Fair enough.
LOL.

How is calling lesbians vile things fair? Ahaha

Ross
02-01-2010, 10:05 PM
LOL.

How is calling lesbians vile things fair? Ahaha

Enid, don't worry darling. Rossy loves you.

Ninastar
02-01-2010, 10:06 PM
LOL.

How is calling lesbians vile things fair? Ahaha

I didnt know what to say lol. I suppose its fair he has an opinion? :conf:

Enid
02-01-2010, 10:07 PM
Enid, don't worry darling. Rossy loves you.
I love you too, sweetcheeks.

Smithy
02-01-2010, 10:09 PM
Nah not real lesbians, vile things.

what about lipstick lesbians??

InOne
02-01-2010, 10:10 PM
Some Lesbians really do seem to have a chip on their shoulder about men

Enid
02-01-2010, 10:10 PM
what about lipstick lesbians??
:conf:

Ross
02-01-2010, 10:13 PM
I love you too, sweetcheeks.

Mwah.

*mazedsalv**
02-01-2010, 10:13 PM
I don't care if someone is gay or not.
But it annoys me with over the top and extremely camp people.

TBh, what we see on TV, is what only a small % of gay people are like (really camp).
I know 5 people who are gay, but you would have no idea in hell that they are as they are mellow, drink beer with the lads, play sports and do things what straight guys do, people make it seem like all gay people wear pink hairbands, all speak the same etc... (Marco from BB5, perfect example, or someone i know).

Smithy
02-01-2010, 10:15 PM
:conf:

good looking lesbians that care about their appearance arent very butch and dont wear dungarees (? spell)

_Seth
02-01-2010, 10:36 PM
I don't care if someone is gay or not.
But it annoys me with over the top and extremely camp people.

TBh, what we see on TV, is what only a small % of gay people are like (really camp).
I know 5 people who are gay, but you would have no idea in hell that they are as they are mellow, drink beer with the lads, play sports and do things what straight guys do, people make it seem like all gay people wear pink hairbands, all speak the same etc... (Marco from BB5, perfect example, or someone i know).

Yeah, it creates a bad stereotype. I was so SO shocked when I found out the host of IQ was gay.

Stacey.
02-01-2010, 10:38 PM
No way!!! :)

Conzors
02-01-2010, 10:42 PM
Nah im not.
I am gay myself but people are a bit shocked when i say im gay (may come to your suprised)

Like i am a little bit camp - but i dont go ott.

Like i like sports - and army stuff - and i drink beer lol etc.

i dont believe in ott gayness - straight people dont go ott on their sexuality, so why should gays? i mean if your naturally camp then fair enough.

But going around wearing obvious girl clothing is like wtf :| - you may be gay but your still a guy.

OTT campness is a huge turnoff for me

xx

Smithy
02-01-2010, 10:44 PM
Nah im not.
I am gay myself but people are a bit shocked when i say im gay (may come to your suprised)

Like i am a little bit camp - but i dont go ott.

Like i like sports - and army stuff - and i drink beer lol etc.

i dont believe in ott gayness - straight people dont go ott on their sexuality, so why should gays? i mean if your naturally camp then fair enough.

But going around wearing obvious girl clothing is like wtf :| - you may be gay but your still a guy.

OTT campness is a huge turnoff for me

xx

usually if you go OTT with straightness isnt that whats usually seen as homophobia??

does that means theres such a thing as heterophobia??

Conzors
02-01-2010, 10:47 PM
usually if you go OTT with straightness isnt that whats usually seen as homophobia??

does that means theres such a thing as heterophobia??

Yep there is.

i know a few people who hate all straight men cos apparantly they are against gays.
im like wtff :|.
haha x

Marc
02-01-2010, 10:52 PM
Homophobia is having a fear of homosexuals. Hence the 'phobia'

I'm not scared of homosexuals. But I do find the act of man on man love making disturbing. I am not homophobic.

Marc
02-01-2010, 10:54 PM
Oh and I also have gay mates, infact I live with one at university and I don't dislike him for being gay at all.

Stu
02-01-2010, 11:06 PM
Like i am a little bit camp - but i dont go ott.

:joker:
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Fom
02-01-2010, 11:11 PM
Eugh, I cannot stand queens... or as I call them with my friends... puffs. Yes you like males, therefore you go around wearing skirts? How does that work out? Stereotypical gays are the most annoying things on this planet! They give normal gay people who have their own personality and not this fake camp persona a bad name.

I used to work in a gay bar, and the amount of jerks I saw were un real... In fact I cant stand a lot of gay people haha.

Marc
02-01-2010, 11:12 PM
Eugh, I cannot stand queens... or as I call them with my friends... puffs. Yes you like males, therefore you go around wearing skirts? How does that work out? Stereotypical gays are the most annoying things on this planet! They give normal gay people who have their own personality and not this fake camp persona a bad name.

I used to work in a gay bar, and the amount of jerks I saw were un real... In fact I cant stand a lot of gay people haha.

Death to the gays! Fomous! :joker:

ILoveTRW
02-01-2010, 11:13 PM
you see im straight but i find "puffs" (ie Brian and Marco) hilarious

Ross
02-01-2010, 11:13 PM
:(

Marc
02-01-2010, 11:14 PM
Alan Carr - hilarious

Fom
02-01-2010, 11:17 PM
Alan Carr - hilarious

Yes but that's only because he makes fun of his own campness, sometimes I do wonder if people who are ever camp actually think they are ever going to be taken seriously?

dan-uk
03-01-2010, 12:24 AM
i have no problem with them i dont understand what the fuss is so what people are gay get over it .and useing the word.gay.to define something as a bad thing is saying being gay is bad so ...use another word being gay is not bad you are born to be gay-bi-straight. its fate so stop having a go at them

Billy
03-01-2010, 12:27 AM
nah im not.
I am gay myself but people are a bit shocked when i say im gay (may come to your suprised)

like i am a little bit camp - but i dont go ott.

Like i like sports - and army stuff - and i drink beer lol etc.

I dont believe in ott gayness - straight people dont go ott on their sexuality, so why should gays? I mean if your naturally camp then fair enough.

But going around wearing obvious girl clothing is like wtf :| - you may be gay but your still a guy.

Ott campness is a huge turnoff for me

xx

rorlfmfoao what?

MissKittyFantastico
03-01-2010, 12:34 AM
Overly camp people annoy the **** out of me and I do use the term 'gay' when something is annoying me but that doesn't make me homophobic imo. I mean live and let live and all that. Seeing homosexual people kissing doesn't make me cringe or anything like that so I'd say I'm fine with it really.

Jack_
03-01-2010, 12:36 AM
rorlfmfoao what?

:joker:

Smithy
03-01-2010, 12:38 AM
Alan Carr - hilarious

this

Jords
03-01-2010, 01:00 AM
Overly camp people annoy the **** out of me and I do use the term 'gay' when something is annoying me but that doesn't make me homophobic imo. I mean live and let live and all that. Seeing homosexual people kissing doesn't make me cringe or anything like that so I'd say I'm fine with it really.

Same goes with me Michelle, and Alan Carr is herlarious! Think he does a great job in Chatty Man :thumbs:

Jack_
03-01-2010, 01:05 AM
Overly camp people annoy the **** out of me and I do use the term 'gay' when something is annoying me but that doesn't make me homophobic imo. I mean live and let live and all that. Seeing homosexual people kissing doesn't make me cringe or anything like that so I'd say I'm fine with it really.

Misuse of the word isn't homophobic, just offensive, and insulting, to some people. That's why I refrain from using it, and don't like the misuse of it. It's not that it insults me, either, but I've just never understood the reason why it has become such a popular word to misuse, but as you have said, live and let live, I suppose.

MissKittyFantastico
03-01-2010, 01:10 AM
Misuse of the word isn't homophobic, just offensive, and insulting, to some people. That's why I refrain from using it, and don't like the misuse of it. It's not that it insults me, either, but I've just never understood the reason why it has become such a popular word to misuse, but as you have said, live and let live, I suppose.

I don't even know why I started saying it tbh, probably one of those things you pick up from people you spend your time with and don't even notice you're doing it. I didn't mean live and let live with regards to that by the way lol, I meant live and let live with regards to sexuality.

Jack_
03-01-2010, 01:13 AM
I don't even know why I started saying it tbh, probably one of those things you pick up from people you spend your time with and don't even notice you're doing it. I didn't mean live and let live with regards to that by the way lol, I meant live and let live with regards to sexuality.

I used to say it all the time when I was younger as well, so I know what you mean! It wasn't until I realised I was misuing it that I decided to stop.

Oh LOL, sorry for the misunderstanding! :joker:

MissKittyFantastico
03-01-2010, 01:15 AM
I used to say it all the time when I was younger as well, so I know what you mean! It wasn't until I realised I was misuing it that I decided to stop.

Oh LOL, sorry for the misunderstanding! :joker:

Just a matter of habit with me I think at this point. One of those things you realise you probably shouldn't do or say but still do you know?

Hehe it's okay!

Jack_
03-01-2010, 01:17 AM
Just a matter of habit with me I think at this point. One of those things you realise you probably shouldn't do or say but still do you know?

Hehe it's okay!

Yeah I understand :tongue:

Ross
03-01-2010, 01:19 AM
I used to say it all the time when I was younger as well, so I know what you mean! It wasn't until I realised I was misuing it that I decided to stop.

Oh LOL, sorry for the misunderstanding! :joker:

You sure that's the reason, or is the real reason because you're partial to a bit of manbulge :tongue:

Jack_
03-01-2010, 01:22 AM
You sure that's the reason, or is the real reason because you're partial to a bit of manbulge :tongue:

Nah, cause I decided to stop using it way before I'd even realised that. :tongue:

Plus it doesn't insult me personally either.

andyman
03-01-2010, 01:37 AM
Mess with me you puff n you'll get a fistin!

Ross
03-01-2010, 01:40 AM
Mess with me you puff n you'll get a fistin!

What are you talking about you big wuffter!

andyman
03-01-2010, 01:47 AM
How fking dare you! You.. You poo poo head.

Ross
03-01-2010, 01:48 AM
How fking dare you! You.. You poo poo head.

:(

Amanda.
03-01-2010, 02:13 AM
Ross you need to do a hair flip. Do NOT let your man get you down.

ThaGazBoi
03-01-2010, 03:06 AM
Camp men are the WORST. You don't want no dude squealing when your making sexytime. I like my men- butch and as men should be!

Shaun
03-01-2010, 03:32 AM
I'm against referring to people of a similar genetic trait - sexuality, ethnicity, gender - as a 'group'. You can't singlehandedly refer to 'the gays' or 'the blacks'; people are people. Judge them as that, and not for what colour their skin is or what they get off on.

The issue of camp men has absolutely nothing whatsoever to do with homophobia - the act of homosexuality is same-sexual relationships, not how much you squeal at the new River Island collection.

Stu
03-01-2010, 12:40 PM
Good point.

Niamh.
03-01-2010, 03:00 PM
No

Crimson Dynamo
03-01-2010, 04:42 PM
I cant see this gay thing lasting into 2010

Stu
03-01-2010, 04:44 PM
It's only a matter of time before Jesus comes back and sorts em' all out like he did with the -

-no

-no wait

-no, not that one

Screw it.

Spike
03-01-2010, 04:56 PM
Well i'm definatly not haha
I do have to say that I don't see alot of homophobia about, people who are do seem to be in a very small minority. I think once people are out of that school environment they grow up and lose those prejudices such as homophobia very quickly
I try to keep an open mind and like everyone but of course there are some types of gays the same as there is some types of straight people I dislike. Not down to their sexuality but down to their personality, but because the personality of a gay is so closely linked with their sexuality, most times, I suppose that dislike could come across as homophobic from a straight person.

Crimson Dynamo
03-01-2010, 04:57 PM
It's only a matter of time before Jesus comes back and sorts em' all out like he did with the -

-no

-no wait

-no, not that one

Screw it.


I am quite sure the Conservatives, when they win this year, will put a stop to it.

andyman
03-01-2010, 05:02 PM
I am quite sure the Conservatives, when they win this year, will put a stop to it.That would only drive the gays underground, they will share condoms like sexual junkies.

Stu
03-01-2010, 05:04 PM
What we need to do is cut the middle man out and just put the editors of The Daily Mail into government.

andyman
03-01-2010, 05:06 PM
What we need to do is cut the middle man out and just put the editors of The Daily Mail into government.That would make Arista very erect.

Harry!
03-01-2010, 05:07 PM
Answer to question - No.

spitfire
03-01-2010, 05:29 PM
I have no phobias.

Crimson Dynamo
03-01-2010, 05:31 PM
That would only drive the gays underground, they will share condoms like sexual junkies.



They cannot drive underground they would have to get tubes and that would play havoc with our congested underground systems.

Dont the gays ever think about the commuter?

Stu
03-01-2010, 05:31 PM
they were certainly in the tunnel that faithful night in 97

rip Diana :(

andyman
03-01-2010, 05:46 PM
They cannot drive underground they would have to get tubes and that would play havoc with our congested underground systems.

Dont the gays ever think about the commuter?No not really, I never said the London Underground, but yes they will need to catch the tubes for the London Underground.

Anyway the Conserveratives have no real policy to govern our great nation through pre-nu 20s.. The 2020s!

andyman
03-01-2010, 05:48 PM
they were certainly in the tunnel that faithful night in 97

rip Diana :(Only French gays.

Captain.Remy
03-01-2010, 05:51 PM
Only French gays.

Yeah they all go there. They can't go out, they will end up like Jeanne d'Arc, burnt in public. That was hot. :D

Stu
03-01-2010, 06:00 PM
Only French gays.
Exactly. Everyone knows they are the worst kind. They seem immune to the traditional traps and even that RectumShield spray I have covered my fortress of bigotry in!

andyman
03-01-2010, 06:08 PM
Exactly. Everyone knows they are the worst kind. They seem immune to the traditional traps and even that RectumShield spray I have covered my fortress of bigotry in!Cool, I have a pump action shotgun from bigotry.com
Those gays won't stand a chance when I go out on my midnight walk.

M X
03-01-2010, 07:10 PM
I'm gay, and not OTT camp, but I find it so hypocritical for somebody to say 'I'm an open minded person but I hate the OTT camp gays'

That's just stupid, if it was a girl that wasn't like that, nothing would be said about it. But if a guy IS like that, it's a huge deal.

Homophobia is also sexism. And it's common in schools but tbh, I've had it quite lucky. My whole school life, everybody that i'm friends with have never been homophobic and never say homophobic things but most of them are gay/bi girls & boys. most of the people in my school are gay/bi.

Stu
03-01-2010, 07:14 PM
Open mindedness includes the ability to hate the way people act based on rational things like how they are as people, not natural instincts they can't help.

I can't stand OTT camps myself. I don't hate them, just don't bring them around to mine.

andyman
03-01-2010, 07:19 PM
I'm gay, and not OTT camp, but I find it so hypocritical for somebody to say 'I'm an open minded person but I hate the OTT camp gays'

That's just stupid, if it was a girl that wasn't like that, nothing would be said about it. But if a guy IS like that, it's a huge deal.

Homophobia is also sexism. And it's common in schools but tbh, I've had it quite lucky. My whole school life, everybody that i'm friends with have never been homophobic and never say homophobic things but most of them are gay/bi girls & boys. most of the people in my school are gay/bi.Man that school is fk'd up!

Captain.Remy
03-01-2010, 07:24 PM
That's just stupid, if it was a girl that wasn't like that, nothing would be said about it. But if a guy IS like that, it's a huge deal.

Of course it is. If you need to act like a girly camp queen all the time, why don't you get a sex change then ? Then you could freely express who you are. It may be radical but to me, these guys aren't men.

There is being overly camp and having girly tendencies like Gary said. I don't mind the last one because they can't help it, it's the way they talk, they move, they like certain things but the first category annoys the hell out of me.

I'm sorry but a man is a man, gay or not and you have to act like one. I know 2 gay guys, they act masculine, not like 2 sassy girlfriends who look like lesbians. And these 2 think the same as I do, they told me they can't stand these kind of people, it doesn't help people's point of views of homosexuality as everyone thinks being gay involves being a fabulous pink bitch.

It makes me uncomfortable and rather irritated to be frank. That being said, I'm open minded and people do whatever the hell they want with their body.

Fom
03-01-2010, 07:45 PM
Remy I agree, it irratates me that when you say someone is gay they associate it with this stereotype of the camp gay. All my gay friends are completely normal, in fact you probably wouldn't be able to tell they are gay!

sooty
03-01-2010, 07:47 PM
Look I got nothing against them gays, Jews and blacks.. In fact we should all unite and kick out them asians!


:sad:

sooty
03-01-2010, 07:55 PM
No

But I have seen a young gay couple kissing in a crowded tube train.
It was a bit embarrassing to be around. It was a rare occasion.

My former boss is gay and we have lunch together regulary.

WOMBAI
03-01-2010, 09:31 PM
Of course it is. If you need to act like a girly camp queen all the time, why don't you get a sex change then ? Then you could freely express who you are. It may be radical but to me, these guys aren't men.

There is being overly camp and having girly tendencies like Gary said. I don't mind the last one because they can't help it, it's the way they talk, they move, they like certain things but the first category annoys the hell out of me.

I'm sorry but a man is a man, gay or not and you have to act like one. I know 2 gay guys, they act masculine, not like 2 sassy girlfriends who look like lesbians. And these 2 think the same as I do, they told me they can't stand these kind of people, it doesn't help people's point of views of homosexuality as everyone thinks being gay involves being a fabulous pink bitch.

It makes me uncomfortable and rather irritated to be frank. That being said, I'm open minded and people do whatever the hell they want with their body.

That rather depends on your definition of what constitutes being a man! Many these days, in this non-caveman era, think that muscle-bound meatheads are not what being a real man is about. It is much more about possessing such qualities as decency, integrity, intelligence humour etc. Give me intellectual muscle over physical muscle anyday. I know many women who agree!

DrOhNoNoNo
03-01-2010, 09:40 PM
Gays are like guys. Except they're not guys. They're gays. Hence the term "gay". And gay pride? That's like a retarded child wearing a shirt (intentionally) that says "Down syndrome pride". Those mofo's (or fofo's, lolz) should be quite ashamed. (Note: This post *isn't* homophobic, because I don't 'fear' gays. I just hate them. =3 It's only an opinion mates.) Gays2perish.

30stone
03-01-2010, 09:48 PM
Agree with david.

Campness annoys me.. massively.
Do find a lot rather annoying.

I do make homophobic jokes on occasion, and say " your gay " quite often..

Stu
03-01-2010, 10:33 PM
Gays are like guys. Except they're not guys. They're gays. Hence the term "gay". And gay pride? That's like a retarded child wearing a shirt (intentionally) that says "Down syndrome pride". Those mofo's (or fofo's, lolz) should be quite ashamed. (Note: This post *isn't* homophobic, because I don't 'fear' gays. I just hate them. =3 It's only an opinion mates.) Gays2perish.
Why hasn't this ****er been banned yet? The forum speed blows. Ban him!

AfroMullet
03-01-2010, 11:33 PM
In a word? Yes.

Yes i am.

Stu
03-01-2010, 11:35 PM
And what is it about gay's you don't like? I doubt many of them spend there nights trying to rape you, so what is it that bothers you so much about what they do?

AfroMullet
03-01-2010, 11:43 PM
I just think its wrong and discusting to be honest. We in the caribbean (Jamaica most so then most) are raised with that belief from birth.

Stu
03-01-2010, 11:46 PM
And that's the problem. It's just what you are learned from birth. What's the operative word? Learned.

Culture is like your operating system, and operating systems can be updated and even uninstalled.

Could you give me some reasons as to why it is wrong and disgusting or is it just because it personally dosn't tickle your fancy sexually so nobody else should be allowed do it?

AfroMullet
04-01-2010, 12:30 AM
To me its just isnt natural. The ultimate reason for sex is pro creation - and thats not even from a religious aspect, if you look at how everyting works etc it is, and two dudes cant procreate. Im like what you do behind closed doors is your business but dont bring it round me. Plus i dont believe in a gay gene.

InOne
04-01-2010, 02:19 AM
Well being gay is natural or they would not be gay. People don't just wake up one day and decide to be gay.

Shaun
04-01-2010, 03:12 AM
To me its just isnt natural. The ultimate reason for sex is pro creation - and thats not even from a religious aspect, if you look at how everyting works etc it is, and two dudes cant procreate. Im like what you do behind closed doors is your business but dont bring it round me. Plus i dont believe in a gay gene.

Very well, so you're against contraception, pornography and sex toys too? Since sex is just for procreation, after all, not to be enjoyed.

And rofl @ 'don't bring it around me'. Sorry, but the last thing I'd be thinking if I was copping off is 'let's go and knock on AfroMullet's door and fist each other'.

andyman
04-01-2010, 03:47 AM
Very well, so you're against contraception, pornography and sex toys too? Since sex is just for procreation, after all, not to be enjoyed.

And rofl @ 'don't bring it around me'. Sorry, but the last thing I'd be thinking if I was copping off is 'let's go and knock on AfroMullet's door and fist each other'.Thats why I moved from your street.

arista
04-01-2010, 07:12 AM
'let's go and knock on AfroMullet's door and fist each other'.


Shaun your Anger and Wit
like no other.

Way to go.

arista
04-01-2010, 07:14 AM
I just think its wrong and discusting to be honest. We in the caribbean (Jamaica most so then most) are raised with that belief from birth.


Yes you are like Iran
in that way
and Murder Gays.


Sign Of The Times.

Shaun
04-01-2010, 07:30 AM
pmsl andyman - also - is that you in your avatar? :O

Crimson Dynamo
04-01-2010, 09:43 AM
Well being gay is natural or they would not be gay. People don't just wake up one day and decide to be gay.

studies suggest that the decision is made in the late afternoon so technically you are correct

Stu
04-01-2010, 11:46 AM
Plus i dont believe in a gay gene.
It's not like platform 9 and three quaters, you know. Evidently gay scenes exist. It don't really require 'belief'.

Niamh.
04-01-2010, 11:49 AM
I can't understand why it bothers people what somebody else does in the bedroom in the privacy of there own home???? I mean there are some straight people into alot weirder **** than that!!

AfroMullet
04-01-2010, 11:49 AM
And rofl @ 'don't bring it around me'. Sorry, but the last thing I'd be thinking if I was copping off is 'let's go and knock on AfroMullet's door and fist each other'.

LOL that did make me LOL. You know what i mean though, i dont wanna see two men kiss, or someone prance around camp as hell.

Even so, i still do think its a choice, concious or otherwise. And with them things, the chance is still there, no mater how remote, apart from sex toys, **** a sex toy.

Crimson Dynamo
04-01-2010, 02:23 PM
I can't understand why it bothers people what somebody else does in the bedroom in the privacy of there own home???? I mean there are some straight people into alot weirder **** than that!!

Yes but it is slightly more than that. A look, a sound (accent), a liking for lady Gaga/Britney, Cheryl Cole, an ridiculous self interest in looks, fashion, lotions, not liking football, sports.

the list goes on


and what with snogging blokes, well i arsk you


all the disadvantages of a woman and none of the advantages may be one way to look upon the phobia

Dr.Gonzo
04-01-2010, 02:48 PM
I can't understand why it bothers people what somebody else does in the bedroom in the privacy of there own home???? I mean there are some straight people into alot weirder **** than that!!

Thank you. If I give you my missus' email will you tell her that?! It doesn't mean I'm a bad person if I want her to dress as a Nazi stormtrooper and march up and down my back.

We all have our kinks.

Niamh.
04-01-2010, 02:54 PM
Thank you. If I give you my missus' email will you tell her that?! It doesn't mean I'm a bad person if I want her to dress as a Nazi stormtrooper and march up and down my back.

We all have our kinks.

:laugh2:

Niamh.
04-01-2010, 02:55 PM
Yes but it is slightly more than that. A look, a sound (accent), a liking for lady Gaga/Britney, Cheryl Cole, an ridiculous self interest in looks, fashion, lotions, not liking football, sports.

the list goes on


and what with snogging blokes, well i arsk you


all the disadvantages of a woman and none of the advantages may be one way to look upon the phobia

Yes but why o why do you care about that???

Crimson Dynamo
04-01-2010, 02:57 PM
Thank you. If I give you my missus' email will you tell her that?! It doesn't mean I'm a bad person if I want her to dress as a Nazi stormtrooper and march up and down my back.

We all have our kinks.

I dont think Stormtroopers marched. They were specialist units formed during action and as such would not have marched as a distinct unit?

Your wife is sexually incorrect

Crimson Dynamo
04-01-2010, 02:58 PM
Yes but why o why do you care about that???

I am explaining the phobia.

Dr.Gonzo
04-01-2010, 03:18 PM
I dont think Stormtroopers marched. They were specialist units formed during action and as such would not have marched as a distinct unit?

Your wife is sexually incorrect

She is not my wife, stinky.

bronaaaa
04-01-2010, 03:28 PM
Nope. I hate gay bashers, and when people are prejudiced about shizz like like that :bored:
I used to be freaked out by lesbians though, but tbh, since joining tibb I'm not anymore

Crimson Dynamo
04-01-2010, 03:58 PM
Nope. I hate gay bashers, and when people are prejudiced about shizz like like that :bored:
I used to be freaked out by lesbians though, but tbh, since joining tibb I'm not anymore

lol at lesbians. like they really exist.

Tom4784
04-01-2010, 04:08 PM
I'm not but I do wonder why some people are, if something has no relation or effect on you then why hate it? I'm throughly in the camp that most true homophobes have at least some gay tendancies and the homophobia stems from that. I just don't get why people would be that bothered except for potential religious reasons and such.

I don't think Sexual orientation is a choice, it's near enough proved that there's a gay gene so it can't be unnatural if someone is born that way.

Stu
04-01-2010, 04:18 PM
A look, a sound (accent), a liking for lady Gaga/Britney, Cheryl Cole, an ridiculous self interest in looks, fashion, lotions, not liking football, sports.

We call that a stereotype in the grown up's world sweetie.

And AfroMullet, actually I don't know what you mean. I doubt anybody does. Considering the best argument you can give against gays is pretty much 'coz I don't like it!'.

Crimson Dynamo
04-01-2010, 04:20 PM
I'm not but I do wonder why some people are, if something has no relation or effect on you then why hate it? I'm throughly in the camp that most true homophobes have at least some gay tendancies and the homophobia stems from that. I just don't get why people would be that bothered except for potential religious reasons and such.

I don't think Sexual orientation is a choice, it's near enough proved that there's a gay gene so it can't be unnatural if someone is born that way.

Yes but that argument does not really work anywhere else - people who dislike people or things do not do so because they covet them secretly. I think that line about you must be gay yourself stems from a defence mechanism and way to try and gain the ascendancy if bullied about being gay, ironically that line of argument rather denigrates being gay in the first place.

that said I dislike Nazis but find the uniforms rather snazzy and have already broken my new years resolution about wearing them.

Crimson Dynamo
04-01-2010, 04:22 PM
We call that a stereotype in the grown up's world sweetie.



utter fact.


and i even missed out kylie

Stu
04-01-2010, 04:24 PM
utter fact.


and i even missed out kylie
Fallacy won't save you now son. You put foward a reduntant argument based on the most stereotypical gay feminine males on the planet. I'm not denying they exist, but not all gay men are like that.

Crimson Dynamo
04-01-2010, 04:27 PM
Fallacy won't save you now son. You put foward a reduntant argument based on the most stereotypical gay feminine males on the planet. I'm not denying they exist, but not all gay men are like that.

all the ones that are on telly are and here too it seems. perhaps you should get onto the gay union and bollock their pr so to speak.

Tom4784
04-01-2010, 04:31 PM
Yes but that argument does not really work anywhere else - people who dislike people or things do not do so because they covet them secretly. I think that line about you must be gay yourself stems from a defence mechanism and way to try and gain the ascendancy if bullied about being gay, ironically that line of argument rather denigrates being gay in the first place.

that said I dislike Nazis but find the uniforms rather snazzy and have already broken my new years resolution about wearing them.

I said 'True Homophobes' I didn't say everyone. and Gay tendancies doesn't mean you're gay neccesarily, it's not that black and white so I'm not saying Homophobes are all gays, just that a few of the die hard ones could be dealing with a few issues.

Stu
04-01-2010, 04:39 PM
all the ones that are on telly are and here too it seems. perhaps you should get onto the gay union and bollock their pr so to speak.
Don't you have football game to go to or a Top Gear boxset to have a nice wank over? It's been a long day at the _________ engineering site. Reward yourself.

MrGaryy
04-01-2010, 04:53 PM
To me its just isnt natural. The ultimate reason for sex is pro creation - and thats not even from a religious aspect, if you look at how everyting works etc it is, and two dudes cant procreate. Im like what you do behind closed doors is your business but dont bring it round me. Plus i dont believe in a gay gene.

so couples who aren't able to have children should just give up on sex then? if they were to go by your moral that sex is simply for reproducing?

Crimson Dynamo
04-01-2010, 04:55 PM
Don't you have football game to go to or a Top Gear boxset to have a nice wank over? It's been a long day at the _________ engineering site. Reward yourself.

lol at you trying to think of men things

Stu
04-01-2010, 05:05 PM
lol at you trying to think of men things
They are men things. And you do like them.

As you can see I have switched to the LeatherTrumpet system of cultural logic.

xDramatick
04-01-2010, 05:11 PM
...of course I'm not.
I don't really see why people are :\ I can see how you may find the gay stereotype irritating, but not all gays are like that :\ My bf doesn't give two ***** about fashion, listens to Pink Floyd, Oasis, Blur and Led Zepellin, can't stand GaGa/Britney and you wouldn't tell he was gay unless you saw me with him :|

Crimson Dynamo
04-01-2010, 05:14 PM
They are men things. And you do like them.

As you can see I have switched to the LeatherTrumpet system of cultural logic.


you do realise that Top Gear is not a show about drugs, right?

Stu
04-01-2010, 05:30 PM
you do realise that Top Gear is not a show about drugs, right?
So that's where I have been going wrong all these years. Here's me hoping Jeremy and the lads will stop all the car **** for a brief tutorial about the safe useage of MDMA :rolleyes:.

atieah2009
05-01-2010, 09:32 PM
Not really, people can do what they want, i try to avoid them if i think they want to you know what... in that sense i actually think Yes.

kcmik
17-01-2010, 05:17 AM
Yeah, burn all these ****ing homos. :laugh:

No seriously, people do whatever they want with their body, it's not my problem but it's not my thing really. I cannot see the attraction for another guy, and I can't see why a lot of them are acting like camp fabulous queens. It doesn't make them any favour. I mean, you can be gay but still being masculine and not looking like a girl. That does irritate me to be honest.

Apart from that, it's not my problem.

Oh my god, i so agree with you. Gay people, man or woman, not a problem. wouldn't know if they where gay or not, like straight people. It's the ones who think they're different coz they are... acting camp etc... i know a few an my god normal life you wouldn't even think they was. Nights out...WOW. your not in that crowd, do one???? i've never met people so up their own asses when they're with they're own crowd. Sad. x

Stu
17-01-2010, 05:45 AM
Same thing happens with straight people kid. It all depends on the person. Are you saying supercharged, up there own arse hetereosexual party animals don't exist?

Bollocks.

karezza
18-01-2010, 12:55 PM
Homo means same. Phobic means fear.

Am I afraid of myself? Yes I am.

NettoSuperstar!
18-01-2010, 01:01 PM
lol at lesbians. like they really exist.

Oh dear

sassy
18-01-2010, 01:08 PM
Not at all.

Crimson Dynamo
18-01-2010, 01:49 PM
Not at all.

some of your best friends are homogays..

Fom
18-01-2010, 01:55 PM
How can you believe a gay gene doesn't exist? It is scientifically proven... oh dear. I think that is people being stubborn rather than having an opinion.

I think it is perfectly fine to dislike gay people if they are the type that prance around like a girl, swirling their hips with bright pink fairy wings on. I think its un fair to dislike 2 normal men having genuine feelings for each other, thats biological so don't hate on it, it is like looking at someone in disgust because they are born with brown hair, it isn't their fault.

Lemo
18-01-2010, 01:57 PM
im gay myself but i dont like ******s or cross dressers *cough alex reid*

Tom
18-01-2010, 01:57 PM
How can you believe a gay gene doesn't exist? It is scientifically proven... oh dear. I think that is people being stubborn rather than having an opinion.

I think it is perfectly fine to dislike gay people if they are the type that prance around like a girl, swirling their hips with bright pink fairy wings on. I think its un fair to dislike 2 normal men having genuine feelings for each other, thats biological so don't hate on it, it is like looking at someone in disgust because they are born with brown hair, it isn't their fault.

Because it isn't conclusive that it exists

Crimson Dynamo
18-01-2010, 01:59 PM
Because it isn't conclusive that it exists

correct. there is far more evidence to support upbringing, just like most sexual proclivity.

Ramsay
18-01-2010, 02:20 PM
as long as they dont start coming on to me then im fine with them

Crimson Dynamo
18-01-2010, 02:23 PM
as long as they dont start coming on to me then im fine with them

no pun intended?

NettoSuperstar!
18-01-2010, 02:23 PM
correct. there is far more evidence to support upbringing, just like most sexual proclivity.

No there isnt far more evidence, on the contrary! There is no evidence that a particular kind of upbringing makes someone gay