"Thank God for Abortion"

[InOne]

Made me gasp then lol Right infront of Stephen as well O.o

[Enid]

He took it well. :)

[spitfire]

It was like a joke that Jimmy Carr would say.
That's what happens at his live shows,a gasp followed by laughter.

[xX_StephH749_Xx]

OMG I know I was NOOOOOOOOOOOO she did not just say that

[Marc]

I lol'ed! Quote of the night easily

[Jords]

At least shes showing more character than first impressions!

[Patrick]

Bitch

[Jackie]

I think she will first out.

[Tom4784]

I love her, She just doesn't care.

[xX_StephH749_Xx]

I guess you could say that she is being so honest, not everyone is though, like brushing off everything

[30stone]

I dont get it
Though i havent seen it yet.

[Stephanie]

when she said it, i was like :shocked: lmfao

[spitfire]

I dont get it
Though i havent seen it yet.
Someone asked her if she had any children.
She replied,"no,thank god for abortions"

[LaLaLand]

I love her. She's just so "real", no sugar-coating at all, she basically doesn't give a sh!t.

Brilliant!

[DrunkerThanMoses]

I must admit i laughed

[Hugo]

She's without a doubt my favourite and the most interesting person in there. She doesn't care what she says or what people think about her.

[InOne]

She is coming across as pretty cool actually

[RCW1945]

Inone
"Made me gasp then lol Right infront of Stephen as well "
Why should she care what that hypocrite thinks about anything?

[InOne]

Inone
"Made me gasp then lol Right infront of Stephen as well "
Why should she care what that hypocrite thinks about anything?

Not that she should care, she just seemed so quiet, and them came out with something like that...

[Niamh.]

I hope she was joking! It was funny if she was not so much if she was serious!! She seems like she's taking the piss alot when she talks though

[30stone]

I got it now :)

ive seen it.

[InOne]

I hope she was joking! It was funny if she was not so much if she was serious!! She seems like she's taking the piss alot when she talks though

Of course she was serious lol

[Niamh.]

Of course she was serious lol

that's a horrible thing to say if she was serious then

[InOne]

that's a horrible thing to say if she was serious then

She was in the sex traffic business, having kids got in the way.

[Hugo]

Why is it horrible? It's a legal proceedure just like alot of other things?
It's not like she said 'Thank God she got raped' ect.

[LaLaLand]

She was in the sex traffic business, having kids got in the way.

This, exactly. Harsh but true.

Sometimes these girls are careless and/or too desperate for money to worry about contraception so "mistakes" happen and abortion could be the only way out of a deep, deep mess.

[LemonJam]

I lawled.

[Prole]

Heidi Fleiss was a prostitute and a madam. She was never a sex trafficker, who coerce people into the sex trade against their will.

[Niamh.]

Why is it horrible? It's a legal proceedure just like alot of other things?
It's not like she said 'Thank God she got raped' ect.

It's not legal in Ireland, and I would have thought that it should be considered a bit more than just a procedure, it is terminating a baby after all

[MissKittyFantastico]

Don't think saying something like that about abortion is funny at all.

[Niamh.]

Don't think saying something like that about abortion is funny at all.

Thank you!, I'm not going mad somebody agrees with me!! lol

[spitfire]

It's not legal in Ireland
I guess she never had them done there,then.

[Enid]

It's not legal in Ireland? Are there more or less cases of unwanted pregnancies because of this law?

[InOne]

Thank you!, I'm not going mad somebody agrees with me!! lol

Obviously it's not funny, but it's not suprising because of the life she used to live.

[Tom4784]

It's not legal in Ireland, and I would have thought that it should be considered a bit more than just a procedure, it is terminating a baby after all

Well technically most abortions take place when it's a foetus not a baby.

[Enid]

Well technically most abortions take place when it's a foetus not a baby.
Technically, you can abort a child when it's old enough to survive out of the womb. :P

[Niamh.]

Well technically most abortions take place when it's a foetus not a baby.

I know, and I'm not getting into the whole debate about it, I just think that it's a serious issue and one that shouldn't be taken lightly is all

[Marc]

Look! It wasn't a bad thing to say.
(unless your catholic) Which I'm not so :wink: I found it blunt and funny.

[Prole]

It's not legal in Ireland, which is why Irish girls have to go to England or elsewhere to get an abortion.

[Enid]

Look! It wasn't a bad thing to say.
(unless your catholic) Which I'm not so :wink: I found it blunt and funny.
I found it funny too. I guess it isn't a sensitive subject for me. :)

[Niamh.]

It's not legal in Ireland? Are there more or less cases of unwanted pregnancies because of this law?

no it's not, but I mean people can just go to England if they want to get one. I'm not sure what way it effects the unwanted pregnancy rates really

[Princess]

I gasped,Nicola seemed more shocked than anyone really,her daugther is only little.

[Niamh.]

Look! It wasn't a bad thing to say.
(unless your catholic) Which I'm not so :wink: I found it blunt and funny.

the reason I don't find it funny has nothing to do with religion but more to do with respecting life. I have 2 kids maybe thats why I'm more sensitive about

[Enid]

no it's not, but I mean people can just go to England if they want to get one. I'm not sure what way it effects the unwanted pregnancy rates really
I don't understand why they don't make it legal if that's the case then.

Illegalising abortion is a really stupid law.

[Enid]

the reason I don't find it funny has nothing to do with religion but more to do with respecting life. I have 2 kids maybe thats why I'm more sensitive about
Yeah, I can understand that. I have no kids, I hate the little brats myself, so... :P

[Niamh.]

I don't understand why they don't make it legal if that's the case then.

Illegalising abortion is a really stupid law.

I don't know about that, I don't like the attitude of some people who seem to see it as a form of contraception

[Prole]

..... I have 2 kids maybe thats why I'm more sensitive about

The majority of kids who are abused are abused by their parents. Being a parent doesn't necessarily make a person more sensitive than people without kids.

[Enid]

I don't know about that, I don't like the attitude of some people who seem to see it as a form of contraception
That is very true, but I believe a woman should be physically, emotionally and financially stable before having a child. There are too many girls getting pregnant because of their irresponsibility.

[Niamh.]

The majority of kids who are abused are abused by their parents. Being a parent doesn't necessarily make a person more sensitive than people without kids.

I'm just telling you why i personally am sensitive about this subject, I'm not speaking for every parent in the world!!

[Niamh.]

That is very true, but I believe a woman should be physically, emotionally and financially stable before having a child. There are too many girls getting pregnant because of their irresponsibility.

yeah absolutely

[Marc]

I found it funny too. I guess it isn't a sensitive subject for me. :)

Me neither. Pregnancy can ruin some people's lives

[MissKittyFantastico]

Me neither. Pregnancy can ruin some people's lives

So can abortions.

[letmein]

So can abortions.

Not really.

[Niamh.]

Me neither. Pregnancy can ruin some people's lives

Yes but thats not even the argument, I'm just saying I don't think it should be something to be taken lightly and joked about like it's nothing

[Marc]

So can abortions.

Yeah I wasn't denying that.

[Niamh.]

Not really.

of course they can!

[MissKittyFantastico]

Not really.

Have you had one? Know anyone that has? Very naive statement to make.

[spitfire]

Abortion is the only contraceptive that is 100% guaranteed to work.

[Marc]

Woooah now I didn't come onto this thread to say whether or not people are right or wrong. Just saying I thought it was funny because it was so blunt and she's not afraid to speak her mind. Whether she's right or not.

[Jords]

Not really.

Yes they can, its called having a huge regret hung over you if they later wished they kept the baby.

[Vicky.]

Not really.

What a ridiculous statement.

Do you have any idea the amount of psychological scarring abortions leave?

Its the decision to kill a baby...ultimately. It plays on your mind constantly.

Those things are not to be took lightly.

[MissKittyFantastico]

What a ridiculous statement.

Do you have any idea the amount of psychological scarring abortions leave?

Its the decision to kill a baby...ultimately. It plays on your mind constantly.

Those things are not to be took lightly.

Exactly.

[spitfire]

Its the decision to kill a baby...ultimately. It plays on your mind constantly.

Some people don't class an unborn as a baby.

[Vicky.]

Some people don't class an unborn as a baby.

But it would have been, if the abortion didnt happen.

So having an abortion is sort of the same as killing a baby. Though in a slightly different way.

[spitfire]

But it would have been, if the abortion didnt happen.

So having an abortion is sort of the same as killing a baby. Though in a slightly different way.
From a philosophical viewpoint an embryo has no rights as it is only a potential and not an actual person and it should not have rights that override those of the pregnant woman.

[Jords]

From a philosophical viewpoint an embryo has no rights as it is only a potential and not an actual person and it should not have rights that override those of the pregnant woman.

It depends on the person, some people only think it is a 'potential person', and some people think it is a living thing from conception.

And even if you were one who thought it was only a 'potential person', after having an abortion and reflecting on it, you can still regret and get in a state over it.

[Vicky.]

And even if you were one who thought it was only a 'potential person', after having an abortion and reflecting on it, you can still regret and get in a state over it.

Well exactly.

Its not like saying, oh I dont want this pair of jeans, I'l throw them in the bin...even if you dont class the embryo as a living thing.

Though to some sick people, it might be.

[Niamh.]

From a philosophical viewpoint an embryo has no rights as it is only a potential and not an actual person and it should not have rights that override those of the pregnant woman.

either way, it's still a serious thing that shouldn't be taken lightly imo

[spitfire]

It depends on the person, some people only think it is a 'potential person', and some people think it is a living thing from contraception.

And even if you were one who thought it was only a 'potential person', after having an abortion and reflecting on it, you can still regret and get in a state over it.
People who think it's a potential wouldn't regret it.
I could potentially win a couple of million on Saturday night.I won' regret it on Sunday if i never bought a Lotto ticket.

[Tom]

Not really.

apart from ending one and having mental effects on those that do it?

[spitfire]

Its not like saying, oh I dont want this pair of jeans, I'l throw them in the bin...even if you dont class the embryo as a living thing.

Why?

[Jords]

People who think it's a potential wouldn't regret it.
I could potentially win a couple of million on Saturday night.I won' regret it on Sunday if i never bought a Lotto ticket.

You can not get attached to a lotto ticket, so silly example. And who says they wouldnt? Some reasure theirselves that abortion will be fine because its not living yet, its only a potential person. You dont know how you would actually feel about it unless you had one.

[Marc]

we need some humour in here! lets lighten it up

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y47/therealmc/larry-king-live.jpg

[spitfire]

You can not get attached to a lotto ticket, so silly example.
I wouldn't get attached to an embryo.

[Niamh.]

You can not get attached to a lotto ticket, so silly example. And who says they wouldnt? Some reasure theirselves that abortion will be fine because its not living yet, its only a potential person. You dont know how you would actually feel about it unless you had one.

Seriously Jordan If he/she compares not buying a lottery ticket to having an abortion then I think we're banging our heads off a brick wall!!

[Jords]

I wouldn't get attached to an embryo.

Yeah maybe you, but theres you saying its like chucking a pair of jeans in the bin so yeah :rolleyes:


I know Niamh! *bangs head against brick ball* ...ouch.

[Princess]

Having an abortion is killing a baby,no question about it. Calling it a different name doesn't mean it wouldn't have been a person.

[spitfire]

Yeah maybe you, but theres you saying its like chucking a pair of jeans in the bin so yeah :rolleyes:
Because to me,it is.

[Vicky.]

Because to me,it is.

Im glad I dont know you then.

Disgusting.

[Niamh.]

Because to me,it is.

You seem like a very nice person!

[Jords]

Because to me,it is.

Fair enough. But an embryo is a potential person like you say, pair of jeans aint!

And what Niamh and Vicky said.

[MissKittyFantastico]

spitfire is either a troll or simply a vile person.

[spitfire]

Having an abortion is killing a baby,no question about it. Calling it a different name doesn't mean it wouldn't have been a person.Abortion is not murder, because a fetus is not an actual human bein,it is a potential human being, i.e. it is a part of the woman.

[Marc]

7WfGcIYRVA4

[spitfire]

Im glad I dont know you then.

Disgusting.
Ditto.

[Niamh.]

spitfire is either a troll or simply a vile person.

Yeah, I'll think positive hope he/she is a troll lol!!

[spitfire]

spitfire is either a troll or simply a vile person.
I have been called the latter on a few occasions.:spin:

[Jords]

Abortion is not murder, because a fetus is not an actual human bein,it is a potential human being, i.e. it is a part of the woman.

Only some people think like this, like I said, others say its a living thing at conception.

[Niamh.]

lol, point taken Marc, That's the end of this for me!!

[Princess]

Abortion is not murder, because a fetus is not an actual human bein,it is a potential human being, i.e. it is a part of the woman.

Potential human being? What is this a game show? Every human being was once a foetus,killing a 'foetus' is killing a human,because they would have a person the woman hasn't had an abortion.

[Vicky.]

spitfire is either a troll or simply a vile person.

Hoping for simply a troll.

Dont like thinking there are people about who think having an abortion is the same as throwing out some old jeans...

[Marc]

Finally some recognition! :D

[Niamh.]

Finally some recognition! :D

:joker:

[Jords]

Finally some recognition! :D

:wavey:

[letmein]

Having an abortion is killing a baby,no question about it. Calling it a different name doesn't mean it wouldn't have been a person.
You're in Ireland, and live under control of the Catholic Church. Irish families have upwards of 5-plus kids per family. Birth control is still seen as sinful. I'm not surprised your mind is so warped when it comes to abortion. Science does not agree with you. It is an embryo, not a baby.

[spitfire]

Potential human being? What is this a game show? Every human being was once a foetus,killing a 'foetus' is killing a human,because they would have a person the woman hasn't had an abortion.So if i crush an acorn,i've killed an oak tree?

[letmein]

Only some people think like this, like I said, others say its a living thing at conception.

They should have funerals every time it doesn't take, and the woman flushes it out.

[Niamh.]

You're in Ireland, and live under control of the Catholic Church. Irish families have upwards of 5-plus kids per family. Birth control is still seen as sinful. I'm not surprised your mind is so warped when it comes to abortion. Science does not agree with you. It is an embryo, not a baby.

Where the ***** did you get that idea of Ireland??? We're not under Catholic rule and most families do not have upwards of 5 kids!!

[letmein]

So if i crush an acorn,i've killed an oak tree?

I'm calling the cops! :dance:

[Stu]

You're in Ireland, and live under control of the Catholic Church. Irish families have upwards of 5 kids per family. I'm not surprised your mind is so warped when it comes to abortion. Science does not agree with you. It is an embryo, not a baby.
Rubbish. Abortion may be illegal here but the Catholic Church has about as much public influence as Jimmy Saville in Ireland these days. And Irish families on average these days are getting smaller and smaller. In line, if not smaller, than the average of a British family.

As for abortion? A foetus is not capable of thought or emotion. It is not capable of the things that set us apart from what we chop up and kill on a plate every evening.

[letmein]

Where the ***** did you get that idea of Ireland??? We're not under Catholic rule and most families do not have upwards of 5 kids!!

Who runs the schools? Give me a break. Ireland has major issues when it comes to women's rights.

[Princess]

You're in Ireland, and live under control of the Catholic Church. Irish families have upwards of 5-plus kids per family. Birth control is still seen as sinful. I'm not surprised your mind is so warped when it comes to abortion. Science does not agree with you. It is an embryo, not a baby.

Ok now because I'm Irish I'm under control of 'The Catholic Church?' That's not patronising at all. I'm not religious,at all. I just personally don't believe in abortion. It's a personal choice,but I won't have people telling me it's not killing a living thing when it clearly is!

[Jords]

You're in Ireland, and live under control of the Catholic Church. Irish families have upwards of 5-plus kids per family. Birth control is still seen as sinful. I'm not surprised your mind is so warped when it comes to abortion. Science does not agree with you. It is an embryo, not a baby.

Im not Irish and I am not Catholic, I see embryo's as potential people, but I do not see abortion as throwing old jeans in the bin, it needs serious thought. And I could see quite clearly how people could regret doing it, your crazy.

[letmein]

Jeans are overrated.

[Stu]

Seiously, did Letmein just form his opinions on Ireland off the back of watching Angela's Ashes? Jesus christ. What misinformed bullshit.

[Niamh.]

Who runs the schools? Give me a break. Ireland has major issues when it comes to women's rights.

The government run the schools. Ireland does not have issues with womens rights:conf: Have you even been to Ireland ever??? Where are you getting your "facts"???

[letmein]

Seiously, did Letmein just form his opinions on Ireland off the back of watching Angela's Ashes? Jesus christ. What misinformed bullshit.

I'm Irish. :xyxwave:

[letmein]

The Irish government bases a lot of itself on the teachings of the Catholic Church, and anyone who says otherwise, is just kidding themselves.

[Niamh.]

Seiously, did Letmein just form his opinions on Ireland off the back of watching Angela's Ashes? Jesus christ. What misinformed bullshit.

he's obviously trying to provoke me and I'm letting him!!

[?]

I bet none of you would know how hard of a decision it would make to end a little life, think about it if Heidi Fleiss had a baby with that lifestyle, think about how its wrecked childhood would be it might of even been put up for adoption etc etc. A very famous scientist once said that a embryo has the same 'lifestyle' or whatever you want to call it as a plant.

[Stu]

Who runs the schools? Give me a break. Ireland has major issues when it comes to women's rights.
The Church runs some of the schools, yes, but it's purely administrative. Our youth are incredibly secular and can be usually found smoking joints out the back during relgion class. I know this because I was brought up in the system. The one you have no idea about.

Seriously, come here and take a look around. You'd be in for a rude awakening.

[Princess]

Feck it,I'm locking this. Gone from a thread about Heidi to a thread slagging the Irish.