Why the love for Vinnie?

[georgehudson]

He is just so boring, I like him but people love him and want him to win?!, why?!
All he does is lye on the bed talking...

[WOMBAI]

Can't you see how entertaining he is? According to some, he fills our screens with tv gold entertainment? Don't tell me you can't see it! Shock, horror! Only joking!

Never found him in the slightest bit entertaining!

Billy Connolly, Lee Evans, Alan Carr - there is entertaining!

Vinnie Jones - eh! NO.

[Raph]

agreed, he seems so dull! :$

[Claymores]

I had high hopes for Vinnie but he's a bit like somebody's dad who showed-up at the party and bringing everything down.

My better question is why all the love for Stephanie who brings 0, snoots about the place like she is still in the Carringtons. It confuses me she is top and tails above others on DS,

[yousoboo!]

he does love a good old moan. at least baldwin is entertaining.

[WOMBAI]

Maybe they just like a bit of class over there. It is quite a rarity on this show after all.

[Claymores]

Maybe they just like a bit of class over there. It is quite a rarity on this show after all.

There is class and faux class (speaking of Stephanie) but this is a Vinnie thread -

He needs to hand grapple that git Alex in the balls ala famous picture.............I remember Jones as the fitba player - maybe you all too young and I should go die!!!!

[Stacey.]

i dont like Vinnie. he doesnt do anything to make me want to watch him :conf2:
Lotss of people like his Style,his sense of humour,,It doesntt get me...

[WAYNEEBRUM]

hes borin i agree its a shame i thought he would be a bit livlier

[Stacey.]

hes borin i agree its a shame i thought he would be a bit livlier

boring
:D

[Claymores]

boring
:D

And being a dissafected yoof is better eh?!

What will Lady complain of next? "I was on tour, it was borinG", "I used to be successful, it was borin"

[WAYNEEBRUM]

PP

[ElProximo]

Agreed he is mostly boring and he might be something like having a police officer show up at the party,
but,
I suppose he is being cheered on seen as the 'working man' here. It is strange to think of a wealthy celebrity athlete who has been in television and movies as the 'Working man' but I suppose that is his background.
So.. yeah, I think people do love the sort of 'regular person' and 'working class hero' type of guy.

You have to keep in mind we need 'normals' for the 'weirdos' to play off of.
If you only have freaks and nutters with no comparison - that becomes as boring in its own way.

But yeah.. I mean I do see the OPs complaint too.

[Claymores]

El - I still think somebody's dad showing up at the party is a better analogy - but I'm close to Vinnie's age and can see his stature as about the only 'Celeb' to appear in Hollywood movies last years plus the immaturity of certain others has cast him as the 'daddy' figure. No idea if Jones likes this or not, but hey we all get old.

[Stacey.]

And being a dissafected yoof is better eh?!

What will Lady complain of next? "I was on tour, it was borinG", "I used to be successful, it was borin"

:conf: wtf?

[Claymores]

:conf: wtf?

Guess you don't watch LF till the wee small hours

[Stacey.]

Guess you don't watch LF till the wee small hours

huh?
yes, i do watch LF actually :D

[Claymores]

huh?
yes, i do watch LF actually :D

Don't start bad habits!!!!!!:elephant: She did actually moan about this one night altho I paraphrased to give the impart about how it was boring being successful (in the past!)

Don't get me wrong Stacey - she is far better HM than some I could mention :dance:

[Stacey.]

Don't start bad habits!!!!!!:elephant: She did actually moan about this one night altho I paraphrased to give the impart about how it was boring being successful (in the past!)

Don't get me wrong Stacey - she is far better HM than some I could mention :dance:

:hugesmile:

[reece(:]

Useless boring boring. Least favourite in there.

[mike888]

Let the kids steal the show for the first week and watch Vinnie come to the fore when he squares up to Alex... you won't find him boring then.. :dance:

[Johnni]

I guess alot of people like him for from what they know of him in the past. Typical working class guy done well in football & Hollywood. Most of the others have 'negative baggage' like Alex, Dane, Katia so lots of people don't like them from the start.

[CapShar]

I'm usually a day behind everyone else but what has any of the other HMs done so far that makes them entertaining?

People are saying that Vinnie is boring because all he does is sit around and talk but that is all I have seen any of them do.

Are they doing something amazing on LF? (which I don't get) and if so then what is it that they do and why isn't it shown in the highlights?

Unless people count Stephen's preaching or Katia's farting as great entertainment I reallly don't see what the others are doing over Vinnie.

[WOMBAI]

I guess alot of people like him for from what they know of him in the past. Typical working class guy done well in football & Hollywood. Most of the others have 'negative baggage' like Alex, Dane, Katia so lots of people don't like them from the start.

Vinne has more negative baggage than most - fact! So that argument doesn't hold out I'm afraid.

[pixee]

I guess alot of people like him for from what they know of him in the past. Typical working class guy done well in football & Hollywood. Most of the others have 'negative baggage' like Alex, Dane, Katia so lots of people don't like them from the start.

Spot on.

For a start people in England always have great affinity for the majority of sportsmen.

[Johnni]

Vinne has more negative baggage than most - fact! So that argument doesn't hold out I'm afraid.

Hes been a bad boy on the field etc but its not viewed as negative id say by the general public, unless you can come up with something i havent heard of.

[BlackOrWhite]

Billy Connolly, Lee Evans, Alan Carr - there is entertaining!


Imagine them three in the house! :joker:

[Johnni]

Spot on.

For a start people in England always have great affinity for the majority of sportsmen.

Exactly, they get away with alot cos they are sportsman alot of people look up to them regradless of what they have been acused of doing.

[pixee]

Exactly, they get away with alot cos they are sportsman alot of people look up to them regradless of what they have been acused of doing.

True, I think maybe it is because there talent or what they bring to the game is measurable more than say an actor or a musician which is more subjective I guess.

[WOMBAI]

Hes been a bad boy on the field etc but its not viewed as negative id say by the general public, unless you can come up with something i havent heard of.

I think you will find it is seen in a negative light by a lot of the general public - just not with many on the forum!

[Johnni]

I think you will find it is seen in a negative light by a lot of the general public - just not with many on the forum!

whats is, his football disciplinary record?

[WOMBAI]

whats is, his football disciplinary record?

His violent behaviour - and not just on the pitch! Why should being a good sportsman excuse him!

[Johnni]

His violent behaviour - and not just on the pitch! Why should being a good sportsman excuse him!

what has he done off the pitch? i dont know

[pixee]

what has he done off the pitch? i dont know

He has been in air rage and that time he got glassed after getting into a fight I assume?

I'm not a fan of him as a footballer tbh I wasn't around to see him play and from what I know he was just a nasty defender but I respect what he achieved with little "talent". Which he is now continuing into his acting career.

[Claymores]

what has he done off the pitch? i dont know

I think WOMBAI might have mixed-up his/her Movies and Documentary channels :elephant:

[CapShar]

Will nobody say what the rest are doing other than talking and why it is not shown on the highlight shows?

Do they build a human pyramid and have Katia do a flaming fart that fires Jonas off the top of it or something? It surely has to be something spectacular as I've only seen them all talking so far, which would surely make them all as boring as Vinnie.

To me the most boring seem to be Dane who doesn't talk much and Stephen who talks too much.

[WOMBAI]

He has been in air rage and that time he got glassed after getting into a fight I assume?

I'm not a fan of him as a footballer tbh I wasn't around to see him play and from what I know he was just a nasty defender but I respect what he achieved with little "talent". Which he is now continuing into his acting career.

I don't respect him - because as far as I can see - he has simply been lucky. He just happens to have the right look and image for the roles he gets offered! No acting required!

[Johnni]

He has been in air rage and that time he got glassed after getting into a fight I assume?

I'm not a fan of him as a footballer tbh I wasn't around to see him play and from what I know he was just a nasty defender but I respect what he achieved with little "talent". Which he is now continuing into his acting career.

That sentence is just all wrong. HE got glassed and your assuming he was in a fight rather than him glassing someone which would justify your hate for him.

[pixee]

I don't respect him - because as far as I can see - he has simply been lucky. He just happens to have the right look and image for the roles he gets offered! No acting required!

Yeah that is true. But he was famous before that.

[pixee]

That sentence is just all wrong. HE got glassed and your assuming he was in a fight rather than him glassing someone which would justify your hate for him.

I don't hate him you berk it's the other guy who is going on about not liking him, i was just trying to answer your question as to what "violent" things he has done outside of football. If your gonna have a go at someone try and make it the right person instead of spraying **** everywhere like a mad woman.

[Johnni]

I don't respect him - because as far as I can see - he has simply been lucky. He just happens to have the right look and image for the roles he gets offered! No acting required!

Thats about 80% of the actors on Hollywood described there. Thats how that industry kinda works, not his fault, fair play to him cos if i got movie roles jobs for a physical trait i had then great!

[chuff me dizzy]

Loved his"If bullshit was music ,we would have a brass band in there" Great one liner !!

[chuff me dizzy]

Imagine them three in the house! :joker:

Agree with Billy and Aln ,not Lee Evans,Wouldnt go watch him if he was in my shed

[Johnni]

I don't hate him you berk it's the other guy who is going on about not liking him, i was just trying to answer your question as to what "violent" things he has done outside of football. If your gonna have a go at someone try and make it the right person instead of spraying **** everywhere like a mad woman.

But you tried to help out the other member but you explained nothing really as i still dont know what EXACTLY he has done apart from being glassed. Hence i was 'having a go' at you as you put it at you cos what YOU wrote didnt make sense.

[WOMBAI]

Thats about 80% of the actors on Hollywood described there. Thats how that industry kinda works, not his fault, fair play to him cos if i got movie roles jobs for a physical trait i had then great!

But he isn't even a pretty boy! He just looks like a thug! And indeed has been one too! So he fits those roles nicely! But how that deserve respect! Don't get that I'm afraid.

[Johnni]

But he isn't even a pretty boy! He just looks like a thug! And indeed has been one too! So he fits those roles nicely! But how that deserve respect! Don't get that I'm afraid.

Hence why he gets movie roles, have you seen any of his films, he aint taking Tom Cruises roles away from him.

[pixee]

But you tried to help out the other member but you explained nothing really as i still dont know what EXACTLY he has done apart from being glassed. Hence i was 'having a go' at you as you put it at you cos what YOU wrote didnt make sense.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vinnie_Jones

Read.

[Johnni]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vinnie_Jones

Read.

Got there in the end but i had to Google it myself cos i got jack from here lol

[pixee]

Got there in the end but i had to Google it myself cos i got jack from here lol

haha we did seem to complicate it.

[Brad.]

Vinnie has been great this episode, some great one-liners!! :joker:

[WOMBAI]

Vinnie has been great this episode, some great one-liners!! :joker:

Are you sure you didn't imagine them! :hugesmile:

You seem to have a bit of a thing with so-called 'one-liners'.

[BigBroNewb]

He is just so boring, I like him but people love him and want him to win?!, why?!
All he does is lye on the bed talking...

hes gettin old, he talks sense and seems to be the only one with there head on

no disrespect to the other blokes, most of them are cool and im supporting them

[ElProximo]

I don't respect him - because as far as I can see - he has simply been lucky. He just happens to have the right look and image for the roles he gets offered! No acting required!

OK, but that is true for most actors and models and singers and probably most every CBB HM.
Which is not saying he can 'act' either although I would say he is as good as any number of actors (more in the USA than UK),
and,
I really don't know too much about the guys personal life (if he was a bully, obnoxious etc),
but,
I did think he came off as genuinely humble and considerate in his US 'most dangerous' Cop reality show.

But if he has been a bully, braggart and obnoxious in life I wont ever defend that.
I just haven't seen it.

[Brad.]

Are you sure you didn't imagine them! :hugesmile:

You seem to have a bit of a thing with so-called 'one-liners'.

Lighten the **** up.

Vinnie had some great banter with the others and was really entertaining in this HL show.

[Stu]

Lighten the **** up.

Vinnie had some great banter with the others and was really entertaining in this HL show.
Agreed. He was very witty as host. I think he is over the whole settling in process now.

[WOMBAI]

Lighten the **** up.

Vinnie had some great banter with the others and was really entertaining in this HL show.

They were all quite entertaining in that show - as it was all a bit of a laugh! A good atmosphere. I don't think he stood out in particular.

[Brad.]

They were all quite entertaining in that show - as it was all a bit of a laugh! A good atmosphere. I don't think he stood out in particular.

Who stood out for you then?

[jet]

Agreed. He was very witty as host. I think he is over the whole settling in process now.

If you call Vinnie as host very witty you should get out more. :hugesmile:

[WOMBAI]

Who stood out for you then?

The guys who were good enough sports to 'dress up' and the girls and their shock/embarassment.

[Brad.]

The guys who were good enough sports to 'dress up' and the girls and their shock/embarassment.

So... everyone else.

Sounds like you've got a grudge against Vinnie.

[Johnni]

So... everyone else.

Sounds like you've got a grudge against Vinnie.

Definatly has.
They all didnt want to dress up and calling to be the host Wombai not just Vinnie.

[Claymores]

hes gettin old, he talks sense and seems to be the only one with there head on

no disrespect to the other blokes, most of them are cool and im supporting them

The younger ones seem to have cast him in the role of 'daddy' and unfortunately he seems to be playing that role as opposed to a 'wilder' Vinnie Jones that fans of the show were expecting. So there is a difference between preconceptions and the man, hence the flood of posts complaining he's boring. I didn't think he was oldest male to be cast as 'daddy' until Baldwin said he's only 43 (or did I mishear?!)

But then again, who'd want Baldwin to be their daddy - he'd gladly see you shot rather than renounce God.

[WOMBAI]

So... everyone else.

Sounds like you've got a grudge against Vinnie.

I answered your question - simple as! Just cause you don't like the answer - don't try and turn it on me by saying I bear a grudge. Grudges are personal - how could I bear a grudge! I have never met him.

On the other hand - you seem pretty obsessed with him. That's up to you - but it doesn't mean everyone else has to like him. I don't. Make of that what you will!