Bully or friendy banter?

[jtalh2003]

Just want to see what most people think
at the moment i am undecided

[reece(:]

borin bully

[Stacey.]

i think Its just a bit of friendly banter :)
but i dont like it when Vinnie is fine to stephens face,
but behind his back he is mean :nono:

[chuff me dizzy]

What you talking about Willis ?

[RealityTVisGreat]

I think it's the only way he knows, he is trying to dominate them, but it's up to Alex to stop him, which he easily could, but doubt he will

[Brad.]

Friendly banter

[WOMBAI]

He does have a tendency to throw his weight around! Bit of a bully I think!

[chuff me dizzy]

Are we talking about my beloved Vinnie ? hes lovely and having a laugh ,lighten up folks

[pixee]

*sigh* sick of saying this lol

Footballers do this kind of put down banter it is part of team sport and I assume because Alex is a sportsman he feels it is part of getting to know you.

I don't know how Alex will take it as it goes on as his sport is very much one on one, but I can understand how it might appear harsh but it is just part of team sports behaviour.

[pixee]

*sigh* sick of saying this lol

Footballers do this kind of put down banter it is part of team sport and I assume because Alex is a sportsman he feels it is part of getting to know you.

I don't know how Alex will take it as it goes on as his sport is very much one on one, but I can understand how it might appear harsh but it is just part of team sports behaviour.

[Okayjack]

Manipulation is the word!

[Enid]

Bully? Are you ****ing kidding me? It's all light-hearted banter.

[WOMBAI]

*sigh* sick of saying this lol

Footballers do this kind of put down banter it is part of team sport and I assume because Alex is a sportsman he feels it is part of getting to know you.

I don't know how Alex will take it as it goes on as his sport is very much one on one, but I can understand how it might appear harsh but it is just part of team sports behaviour.

Doesn't make it alright or excusable!

[pixee]

Doesn't make it alright or excusable!

lol I can't believe some people think this a genuine way a grown man of Vinnie Jones background would "have a go" at someone, have none have you playing in any kind of team sport?

I totally accept it could be taken the wrong way which is how some of you are taking it so it doesn't bode well for him.

[setanta]

It's footballing/sporting banter which I'm well used to myself but occassionally you have to stand up and give as good as you get. Unfortunately for Alex that's a bit difficult, especially when you're on live tv and don't have experience with the cams and don't want to end up looking like a fool. I personally think that Vinnie should cool down a bit because it's not the right enviroment to be going overboard with that kinda thing and he could go too far.

[Deliverance]

Friendly banter and a good craic at times. I think Vinnie is funny and he is kind of keeping some kind of reality going on in the house over the ridiculous egos that might get out of control.

At the same time he is being sneaky by bitching behind peoples backs which brings me back to it being a passive aggressive bullying thing that is going on. Of course we all know that BB editing is dubious as well though so it is anyones guess as to what is the real nature of the Vin man.

Genuine bully or Banter man having a larf? I'm still undecided at this point.

[pixee]

It's footballing/sporting banter which I'm well used to myself but occassionally you have to stand up and give as good as you get. Unfortunately for Alex that's a bit difficult, especially when you're on live tv and don't have experience with the cams and don't want to end up looking like a fool. I personally think that Vinnie should cool down a bit because it's not the right enviroment to be going overboard with that kinda thing and he could go too far.

Spot on, yeah I think Alex is taking it literally and so on so clearly isn't used to it so he should stop.

[abcd]

i quite like vinny jones, and enjoy his films, but he needs taking down a peg or 10 too be honest, poor alex is treading on egg shells every time vinnie takes the piss out of him or interrigates him, id love him to snap

[WOMBAI]

lol I can't believe some people think this a genuine way a grown man of Vinnie Jones background would "have a go" at someone, have none have you playing in any kind of team sport?

I totally accept it could be taken the wrong way which is how some of you are taking it so it doesn't bode well for him.

I think that is just making excuses for him. If it is making Alex feel uncomfortable - then it is unacceptable!

[setanta]

Spot on, yeah I think Alex is taking it literally and so on so clearly isn't used to it so he should stop.

Exactly. Vinnie has to realise that he should relax now, otherwise I'll end up calling him a tit.

[Clockers]

Alex training comes in handy because it keeps him calm. Vinnie is pushing his buttons, hoping for a reaction. Vinnie is confrontational person. Great TV though.

[Deliverance]

It's footballing/sporting banter which I'm well used to myself but occassionally you have to stand up and give as good as you get. Unfortunately for Alex that's a bit difficult, especially when you're on live tv and don't have experience with the cams and don't want to end up looking like a fool. I personally think that Vinnie should cool down a bit because it's not the right enviroment to be going overboard with that kinda thing and he could go too far.
Yep that is exactly what I feel, as mentioned previously he was almost killed in a bar fight by just this type of behaviour. BB needs to be careful on this. Vinnie was picking on Alex again tonight, it was straight talk but it was also personal.

If Alex snaps Vinnie might find himself picking up some teeth off the floor on the way out of the house!

Saying that though if Alex turned around and started questioning Vinnie in a suttle way about his own personal life i.e. the hard man image etc and the pitch ball grabbing incident etc in a funny way then they would probably actually get on better.

It could go either way.

[Mandyredlips]

Vinnie Jones has played too many 'hard men' action roles. he thinks he is jugernaught etc.
He beleives he is the only genuine celebrity in the house.

He has read all the nonsense about peter andre and jordan and is brainwashed into thinking peter andre is some kind on prince. I beleive he thinks by knocking Alex he is bonding with the public. He reakons he is mr daily mirror tell it how it is.

I think he is rather boring and IS being a bully, i care not if thats how it is in a football team. Same reasoning could be said of the school playground. Fact is he is acting just like a bully. Alex is unsure of what to do as he is all new to the celebrit circus.
I think it is not making vinnie jones look nice with his digs and snide remarks.

Would be great if he really pushed it and got ALex to take it to the mat like he did with dwane or whatever that boring bloke is that he punched on the head.

Vinnie is a meanie who thinks he is better then everyone else.


ps -I love Sovv! !!!!

[Chels]

christ the word bully is slapped around far, FAR too easily on here. :bored:

[setanta]

Yep that is exactly what I feel, as mentioned previously he was almost killed in a bar fight by just this type of behaviour. BB needs to be careful on this. Vinnie was picking on Alex again tonight, it was straight talk but it was also personal.

If Alex snaps Vinnie might find himself picking up some teeth off the floor on the way out of the house!

Saying that though if Alex turned around and started questioning Vinnie in a suttle way about his own personal life i.e. the hard man image etc and the pitch ball grabbing incident etc in a funny way then they would probably actually get on better.

It could go either way.

He should just realise that it's not working now and back down just a tad. Otherwise he's a moron.

[Mandyredlips]

i personally think vinnie jones makes shitty films too!

[pixee]

Vinnie Jones has played too many 'hard men' action roles. he thinks he is jugernaught etc.
He beleives he is the only genuine celebrity in the house.

He has read all the nonsense about peter andre and jordan and is brainwashed into thinking peter andre is some kind on prince. I beleive he thinks by knocking Alex he is bonding with the public. He reakons he is mr daily mirror tell it how it is.

I think he is rather boring and IS being a bully, i care not if thats how it is in a football team. Same reasoning could be said of the school playground. Fact is he is acting just like a bully. Alex is unsure of what to do as he is all new to the celebrit circus.
I think it is not making vinnie jones look nice with his digs and snide remarks.

Would be great if he really pushed it and got ALex to take it to the mat like he did with dwane or whatever that boring bloke is that he punched on the head.

Vinnie is a meanie who thinks he is better then everyone else.


ps -I love Sovv! !!!!

He hasn't been in the country he didn't even know Dane had gone out with her...I think maybe you are one of these people who actually care about Jordan and Peter? Alot of people IN THE COUNTRY don't even read about that ****.

I think deliverance is right, they would really get on if Alex gave a bit back they both have alot of similarities in many ways it seems as well, it is normal wind up joke stuff but as people have said he isn't taking it in the right way so he should stop or it will end badly.

[decisivemoment]

Bullying a cage fighter? Vinnie is a bit of a knob no doubt but he has been funny too. Its going to get to the stage that human interaction will be conducted via third party software for fear that someone may be offended. They are two big boys for gods sake, enjoy it, sooner or later if Mister Jordan gets really narked then let him take it up with Mister Jones. Now that could be fun.

[Deliverance]

He should just realise that it's not working now and back down just a tad. Otherwise he's a moron.
Yep, if he has a brain he will back off a bit via not getting the banter back and seeing that the lad has no come backs. If not then he will keep it up. I think this will be the measure of him in that way.

I used to think Vinnie was a bit of a legend but now I'm wondering, time will tell.

[Deliverance]

Bullying a cage fighter? Vinnie is a bit of a knob no doubt but he has been funny too. Its going to get to the stage that human interaction will be conducted via third party software for fear that someone may be offended. They are two big boys for gods sake, enjoy it, sooner or later if Mister Jordan gets really narked then let him take it up with Mister Jones. Now that could be fun.

BB should lock them both in a room as a punishment in the early stages for a whole day. Then they will have no choice but to face each other and their differences without the other HM's to bounce off.

Bloody hell I sound like Stephen Baldwin now!

[Mandyredlips]

I am sure vinnie Jones consulted the internet or google or something with an idea of who may be in the house. I heard him say he was expecting pamala anderson, ice t and a jackson. No matter if you care of could not careless about jordan etc but you cannot get away from hearing about them if you either watch television, read any newspaper except the financial times or listen to the radio.

"Alot of people IN THE COUNTRY don't even read about that ****." - the daily star, sun, mirror are the biggest selling papers in the world. People are interested in tabloid ****. Hello this is big brother forum, hello, ok.

Actually i watch and read a lot of crap i dont care about but i'd never heard of dane either. I imagine dane has known people for years that forget who is is. Wasn't he in a band that no one cared about too. - he is a bit embarressing to watch around alex though because you can see he is intimidated.


He hasn't been in the country he didn't even know Dane had gone out with her...I think maybe you are one of these people who actually care about Jordan and Peter? Alot of people IN THE COUNTRY don't even read about that ****.

I think deliverance is right, they would really get on if Alex gave a bit back they both have alot of similarities in many ways it seems as well, it is normal wind up joke stuff but as people have said he isn't taking it in the right way so he should stop or it will end badly.

[pixee]

I am sure vinnie Jones consulted the internet or google or something with an idea of who may be in the house. I heard him say he was expecting pamala anderson, ice t and a jackson. No matter if you care of could not careless about jordan etc but you cannot get away from hearing about them if you either watch television, read any newspaper except the financial times or listen to the radio.

"Alot of people IN THE COUNTRY don't even read about that ****." - the daily star, sun, mirror are the biggest selling papers in the world. People are interested in tabloid ****. Hello this is big brother forum, hello, ok.

Actually i watch and read a lot of crap i dont care about but i'd never heard of dane either. I imagine dane has known people for years that forget who is is. Wasn't he in a band that no one cared about too. - he is a bit embarressing to watch around alex though because you can see he is intimidated.

I just think it is concievable some one living in america might not have heard about an ex page 3 models latest **** buddy.

[decisivemoment]

BB should lock them both in a room as a punishment in the early stages for a whole day. Then they will have no choice but to face each other and their differences without the other HM's to bounce off.

Bloody hell I sound like Stephen Baldwin now!

Make them listen to Basshunter or Sov non stop see who cracks first.

[jet]

The question is WHY is Vinnie is pushing it with Alex?
I'm disappointed in Vinnie - I thought he was going to be great, but he just seems to want to get laughs at the expense of others. Insecurity maybe?
He does seem to be the type of insensitive plonker that I dislike. Oh well. His behaviour towards Alex is making me LIKE Alex, and I didn't want to do that!

[Mandyredlips]

its been crazy the amount of press coverage about her. Alex needs to come out of himself more (no, not like that!) - his body looks out of porportion to me, like big head and a weird flat leathery bum!

forgot what the discussions about. :spin:

I just think it is concievable some one living in america might not have heard about an ex page 3 models latest **** buddy.

[Jords]

A bit of both, he appeared very intimidating, but he probably only meant to be having a bit of banter.

[Mandyredlips]

I think Vinnie thinks he's the voice of the people (tabloids) and is treating Alex badly as he thinks its what the public want. Would be nice if they could proper sit down, get drunk and forget about the cameras, have a real open chat.
Alex is holding back all the time 'emotionally'. Vinnie needs to back off and be more friendly as Alex has no idea of how to behave. If vinnie befriended him it would be good for vinnie. I think thats the problem; when people are friends they can be rude to each other in a friendly way. If they are not good friends then it comes out wrong.



The question is WHY is Vinnie is pushing it with Alex?
I'm disappointed in Vinnie - I thought he was going to be great, but he just seems to want to get laughs at the expense of others. Insecurity maybe?
He does seem to be the type of insensitive plonker that I dislike. Oh well. His behaviour towards Alex is making me LIKE Alex, and I didn't want to do that!

[WAYNEEBRUM]

Vinnie seems obsessed with Alex.

[InOne]

Vinnie seems obsessed with Alex.

Obsessed? Nah, just giving him what he deserves for hooking up with that slut

[WAYNEEBRUM]

whats it got to do with him ?

[InOne]

Vinnie is a bit bored maybe, Alex is an idiot?

[MattBlake]

Bully. Vinnie is a boring douchebag.

[Stacey.]

I think it could turn into bullying, if he carries on like this.
its obviously meant to be fun,but he does take it too far.
i would like vinnie... if he wasnt 2-faced :D

[rusticgal]

Its none of those....its pure SARCASM.... Loving it!!! However I think Alex is holding his own by laughing it off and not taking offense.Admiring him for that...but we WILL have to see cos I think it will wear thin soon and it could backfire on Vinnie....although I hope not.:dance:

[WOMBAI]

Its none of those....its pure SARCASM.... Loving it!!! However I think Alex is holding his own by laughing it off and not taking offense.Admiring him for that...but we WILL have to see cos I think it will wear thin soon and it could backfire on Vinnie....although I hope not.:dance:

I am not a fan of either - but I have to say that Alex is coming out of this a lot better. He is behaving with some dignity - whereas Vinnie is just a jealous bitch!

[rusticgal]

Its none of those....its pure SARCASM..and I am loving it.Hope it doesnt backfire cos I like Vinnie but Alex is holding his own by laughing it off and that will go in his favour.

[WOMBAI]

Its none of those....its pure SARCASM..and I am loving it.Hope it doesnt backfire cos I like Vinnie but Alex is holding his own by laughing it off and that will go in his favour.

Sarcasm - lowest form of wit! Face it - he gets his kicks by attempting to put others down - lovely bloke - not to mention a hugh sign of insecurity! :rolleyes:

[supergirthuk]

*sigh* sick of saying this lol

Footballers do this kind of put down banter it is part of team sport and I assume because Alex is a sportsman he feels it is part of getting to know you.

I don't know how Alex will take it as it goes on as his sport is very much one on one, but I can understand how it might appear harsh but it is just part of team sports behaviour.

It does not mean it is acceptable either in sport or here to intimidate or attack someone the way he does and did. Jones is a thug and a bully and I would love someone in there to really rip him apart. He needs total public humiliation and throwing back in the gutter where he belongs.

[Prole]

It does not mean it is acceptable either in sport or here to intimidate or attack someone the way he does and did. Jones is a thug and a bully and I would love someone in there to really rip him apart. He needs total public humiliation and throwing back in the gutter where he belongs.

Hilarious! Your personal venom toward Vinnie Jones big thing for you obviously, but do try to get a grip. He is not bullying the CAGE FIGHTER.

The words THUG and BULLY crop up every time CBB or BB is on TV. Maybe you don't really know what a thug or a bully is.

[WOMBAI]

Hilarious! Your personal venom toward Vinnie Jones big thing for you obviously, but do try to get a grip. He is not bullying the CAGE FIGHTER.

The words THUG and BULLY crop up every time CBB or BB is on TV. Maybe you don't really know what a thug or a bully is.

What you mean just like the words slut and ***** do - of course, always directed at the girls!

[Jordan.]

Borderline bullying now i believe it was friendly at first but hes going too far.

[supergirthuk]

Check the Avatar!

[lily.]

He's just taking the piss...

Having been one of 2 females working in a male-dominated workplace, I am used to people like Vinnie. If it's bothering Alex then he needs to *****ing grow a pair.



I am sure vinnie Jones consulted the internet or google or something with an idea of who may be in the house. I heard him say he was expecting pamala anderson, ice t and a jackson. No matter if you care of could not careless about jordan etc but you cannot get away from hearing about them if you either watch television, read any newspaper except the financial times or listen to the radio.

"Alot of people IN THE COUNTRY don't even read about that ****." - the daily star, sun, mirror are the biggest selling papers in the world. People are interested in tabloid ****. Hello this is big brother forum, hello, ok.

Actually i watch and read a lot of crap i dont care about but i'd never heard of dane either. I imagine dane has known people for years that forget who is is. Wasn't he in a band that no one cared about too. - he is a bit embarressing to watch around alex though because you can see he is intimidated.

I don't know much about Jordan/Peter/Alex. I don't live in a bubble.. I just choose not to read about tedious **** like that.

[supergirthuk]

I would love Alex to wake Jones up with a kitchen knife at his neck and see who needed to grow a pair then.

[lily.]

I love how contradictory that last post was.

[supergirthuk]

Thanks!

[Athleticguy29]

Vinnie is just one of the lads its friendly banter is all.

He can take it back its just alex is scared to give any back.

[WOMBAI]

Vinnie is just one of the lads its friendly banter is all.

He can take it back its just alex is scared to give any back.

You're just making excuses for him!

[Stacey.]

Vinnie is just one of the lads its friendly banter is all.

He can take it back its just alex is scared to give any back.

:rolleyes:
Typical vinnie fan

[lily.]

I agree with him. Alex is scared to give it back. I don't get why people are being so *****ing over-sensitive about this to be honest.

[InOne]

:rolleyes:
Typical vinnie fan

Alex is a joke.

[WOMBAI]

There is an imbalance of power - that is why I think it has become bullying. Vinnie is a lot better known, full of himself with a reputation for having a temper. Alex has been given a very hard time by the press, not very well known and probably doesn't want to rock the boat. It stands to reason that he is likely to feel intimidated by Vinnie - and what's more Vinnie knows it - that's why he is doing it. Alex makes an easy target! So does Katia - the two most likely to be disliked. Nothing heroic about that in my book!

[lily.]

Maybe I'm too much like Vinnie to see things from that perspective.

[setanta]

There is an imbalance of power - that is why I think it has become bullying. Vinnie is a lot better known, full of himself with a reputation for having a temper. Alex has been given a very hard time by the press, not very well known and probably doesn't want to rock the boat. It stands to reason that he is likely to feel intimidated by Vinnie - and what's more Vinnie knows it - that's why he is doing it. Alex makes an easy target! So does Katia - the two most likely to be disliked. Nothing heroic about that in my book!

Totally agree with you there.

[Xabinight]

Vinnie is taking the piss no doubt about it, he has read the papers and been clued up by his agent whatever. He knows Jordan is hated and as such so is AR. What some people forget is that a few years back Vinnie was in almost the same position as this muppet Alex, most people hated him, he had a reputation as a thug etc. when in reality he was about as useful as an ashtray on a motorbike. Would love to see the two of them get it on tbh, probably the best thing either of them would ever have done.

[HellShark]

There is an imbalance of power - that is why I think it has become bullying. Vinnie is a lot better known, full of himself with a reputation for having a temper. Alex has been given a very hard time by the press, not very well known and probably doesn't want to rock the boat. It stands to reason that he is likely to feel intimidated by Vinnie - and what's more Vinnie knows it - that's why he is doing it. Alex makes an easy target! So does Katia - the two most likely to be disliked. Nothing heroic about that in my book!

There can only be one alpha male in the house. Alex is the closest challenger so he ass must be kept in the beta-zone.

This **** is like watching the nature channel.

[Shasown]

Bullying? PMSL some of you really do need to get out into the real world, and not remember back to how you felt when someone said something nasty in the schoolyard.

Bloody playstation generation.

[Jay_1986]

How could anyone think it's bullying? Compare it to the whole house bullying Shahbaz(BB7) or Lesley bullying Sam(BB6) or Darnell bullying Sara(BB9) or Bea, Karly, Kris and Lisa bullying Freddie(BB10) or Michael Barrymore bullying Jodie Marsh(CBB4) or Danielle, Jade and Jo bullying Shilpa(CBB5).

All of that was clear victimisation, Vinnie is just messing around with Alex, and Alex is having a laugh with him, there have been real cases of bullying in BB, but thankfully none in this series!

[MissKittyFantastico]

Obviously a lot of people on here have no idea what the concept of bullying actually is.

[Stacey.]

Alex is a joke.

:bored:

[yousoboo!]

Vinnie is used to ruling through fear. he doesn't have the personality to rule through respect or inspiration.