Who would win a real fight; Jones Vs Reid

[Clockers]

If banter got to much for Alex and he throws down the gauntlet for a ruck with Vinnie, who would win?

Obviously it would be Alex, he has 11 years on Vinnie, is in great shape and a proffessional fighter.

[Jackie]

Vinnie i reckon.

[Brad.]

Vinnie

He would headbutt him straight away and knock Alex out

[flatron]

Yes. Alex wins.

[Stacey.]

vinnie :(

[WOMBAI]

Alex - Vinnie is too old! You can't fight nature!

[pixee]

Alex should he is a proffessional fighter.

[Chels]

Vinnie

[Chels]

Alex should he is a proffessional fighter.

professional fighter who's lost over 3/4 of his fights :joker:

[Vladimir]

Alex, obviously.

[jet]

Alex SHOULD win, but I think Vinnie in a temper would be kind of ruthless and mad - dog. He's scary.

[pixee]

professional fighter who's lost over 3/4 of his fights :joker:

I know but he should have some sort of advantage lol

Vinnie jones is just a big "geezer"

Alex has some training in combat sports

[Novo]

professional fighter who's lost over 3/4 of his fights :joker:

He's won 8 and Lost 8

The Papers did lie

[pixee]

He's won 8 and Lost 8

The Papers did lie

Yup the MMA website states that record

[Brad.]

Won 8, Lost 8

It's hardly great is it?

[flatron]

Won 8, Lost 8

It's hardly great is it?

No, but I bet Vinnies would be a LOT worse! He wouldn't win any. Too old. Trained in football and a little acting.

[Brad.]

No, but I bet Vinnies would be a LOT worse!

Superb. Thanks for that incredibly insightful input of yours, well done.

[flatron]

Superb. Thanks for that incredibly insightful input of yours, well done.

truth hurts. Actor v's professional fighter, LMAO! Funy that there's even a debate.

[Jords]

Reidy.

[Brad.]

truth hurts. Actor v's professional fighter, LMAO! Funy that there's even a debate.

I'm not questioning the fact that Vinnie wouldn't be a good professional cage fighter but in a pub brawl, Vinnie would have the edge because it wouldn't be in "controlled" circumstances and he's a tougher nut.

[InOne]

Vinnie, he has that natural anger about him

[MattBlake]

Alex i guess.. Vinnie's a boring prick.

[WOMBAI]

I'm not questioning the fact that Vinnie wouldn't be a good professional cage fighter but in a pub brawl, Vinnie would have the edge because it wouldn't be in "controlled" circumstances and he's a tougher nut.

He's vicious, but he is old. He cannot beat nature!

[arista]

Alex would Win
as his Pro Fighting Skills are better than Vinnie.

[Supermum]

I love Vinnie for his acting roles but he's actually not that entertaining as a housemate. He is purposely trying to wind Alex up & i'd pi$$ myself laughing if Alex just turned around and floored him. Vinnie thinks he's a gangsta. Someone needs to point out that he was a thug not a gangsta, that was acting. Maybe Alex should bite his nose or grab him by his balls.

[lily.]

Vinnie.

[WOMBAI]

I love Vinnie for his acting roles but he's actually not that entertaining as a housemate. He is purposely trying to wind Alex up & i'd pi$$ myself laughing if Alex just turned around and floored him. Vinnie thinks he's a gangsta. Someone needs to point out that he was a thug not a gangsta, that was acting. Maybe Alex should bite his nose or grab him by his balls.

:thumbs: He is an ex-thug, and a make-believe gangster - an old one at that! He needs a reality check! :joker:

[mlomax]

Alex no doubt,

Rembember vinnie does not have the training therefore wont be as fast, or no where near as good at blocking. this would allow alex to give him a few hits to the head and gut, slowing vinnie down allowing him to knee him in the face and but him in a submission and break his arm..


In a weapons fight.

Again i would say alex, as he is faster and would pick up the weapon faster and know where to hit them to cause the most damage, where as vinnie is slow and just a nut case.. which would make him just hit all over the place..

Sorry vinnie mate but alex would woop ur ass, and then dress u in a dress for taking the piss :P

[Prole]

Vinnie. No doubt.

All those who're saying Vinnie's too old at 45 for a scrap with a moron are probably confusing CBB with CBBC.

[Harry!]

Vinnie.

[tonysoprano0316]

Sorry but anyone saying Vinnie Jones would win in a real fight with a trained professional fighter has either started to believe that Vinnie Jones is really Juggernaut from X-Men or is just an idiot.

His MMA record currently stands at 8 wins and 8 losses, which isn't great, but this is an MMA record, not boxing, MMA is a much tougher sport in which to keep a good record.

He also has a seperate kickboxing record of which I am unsure, but I would bet that he has more wins than losses as he is more of a stand up fighter.

Annoying as he is, Alex Reid has over ten years of professional fighting under his belt and many more years of hardcore martial arts training to get him up to a professional fighting standard.

Vinnie Jones grabbed Gazzas groin in an aggressive manner.

I'm pretty sure everything else he did was in films.

I don't care how "hard" Vinnie Jones acts, or how "he looks" like a psycho, or how he grew up in a tough neighbourhood as a kid, he's still at a MASSIVE disadvantage if he ever had a fight with a professional.

And that's it.

No one can give any justifiable reason as to how Vinnie Jones would win a real fight against Alex Reid.

[WOMBAI]

Sorry but anyone saying Vinnie Jones would win in a real fight with a trained professional fighter has either started to believe that Vinnie Jones is really Juggernaut from X-Men or is just an idiot.

His MMA record currently stands at 8 wins and 8 losses, which isn't great, but this is an MMA record, not boxing, MMA is a much tougher sport in which to keep a good record.

He also has a seperate kickboxing record of which I am unsure, but I would bet that he has more wins than losses as he is more of a stand up fighter.

Annoying as he is, Alex Reid has over ten years of professional fighting under his belt and many more years of hardcore martial arts training to get him up to a professional fighting standard.

Vinnie Jones grabbed Gazzas groin in an aggressive manner.

I'm pretty sure everything else he did was in films.

I don't care how "hard" Vinnie Jones acts, or how "he looks" like a psycho, or how he grew up in a tough neighbourhood as a kid, he's still at a MASSIVE disadvantage if he ever had a fight with a professional.

And that's it.

No one can give any justifiable reason as to how Vinnie Jones would win a real fight against Alex Reid.

Well said! :thumbs:

[Sir_Diary_of_Roomus]

Alex, but it wouldn't be a blowout, Vinnie would put up a fight, but yeah eventually losing.

[tonysoprano0316]

I think it would be over quickly, Vinnie would swing once with a typical wild hay maker, the kind of punch someone who doesn't know how to fight would throw, then either get knocked out or choked out in under a minute.

This logic is like me saying I'd give Cristiano Ronaldo a good go if I was given the task of marking him if my pub team played Real Madrid.

Of course I'd give it a good go, but I'd totally embarrass myself in the process and be made to look extremely foolish at the end of it.

[Braden]

It would be close,
but i reckon Vinnie.

[WOMBAI]

It would be close,
but i reckon Vinnie.

Why would you say that! He is an old actor! His tough guy roles are pretend!

[Stephanie]

alex obviously.

[30stone]

professional fighter who's lost over 3/4 of his fights :joker:

I bloke ho has gone through hours of fighting training a day before big fights.

Is trained very well.

Vinnie.. hes just street wise and 'ard, if he couldnt knock alex out in 1 punch it would be lights for vinnie i reckon, couldnt keep up.

[Wildcat!]

Sorry but anyone saying Vinnie Jones would win in a real fight with a trained professional fighter has either started to believe that Vinnie Jones is really Juggernaut from X-Men or is just an idiot.

His MMA record currently stands at 8 wins and 8 losses, which isn't great, but this is an MMA record, not boxing, MMA is a much tougher sport in which to keep a good record.

He also has a seperate kickboxing record of which I am unsure, but I would bet that he has more wins than losses as he is more of a stand up fighter.

Annoying as he is, Alex Reid has over ten years of professional fighting under his belt and many more years of hardcore martial arts training to get him up to a professional fighting standard.

Vinnie Jones grabbed Gazzas groin in an aggressive manner.

I'm pretty sure everything else he did was in films.

I don't care how "hard" Vinnie Jones acts, or how "he looks" like a psycho, or how he grew up in a tough neighbourhood as a kid, he's still at a MASSIVE disadvantage if he ever had a fight with a professional.

And that's it.

No one can give any justifiable reason as to how Vinnie Jones would win a real fight against Alex Reid.



Pretty much sums up what I think. I laugh at people thinnking Vinnie woul have a chance with that Alex dude. He would beat the hell out of Vinnie.

Remember, its not who you hope would win, its who would obviously win. Vinnie is not only old, but he is saggy old. He hasnt really kept up his body. Ive seen people his ag look a lot stronger and fitter. So not even a chance.

[tonysoprano0316]

It would be close,
but i reckon Vinnie.

No offence but that comment sums up your lack of knowledge.

It wouldn't be close at all.

[Clockers]

When I started this thread I knew some Vinnie fans would back him with out thinking logically. Fan Boys and Teeny Boppers never think logically.

[lily.]

Interesting..

[catesy]

Vinnie hands down
Alex is to slow
Alexs` too exposed

Vinnies` more head strong
Vinnie has already studied his weaknesses

Alex WOULD REALLY HAVE TO LOSE HIS TEMPER 4 any chance of a head start
VINNIE WOULD TAKE HIM LIKE SLAPPING DOWN A YOUNG PUP
Vinnie would get in quick and Street fight him
Alex would show us all he has a glass jaw

I would pay monies to see it...... but Alex would neva push it cos he knows vince the mence would do him like a bitch and laugh like a devil at the same time.

[Vicky.]

Alex...obviously.

[catesy]

I bloke ho has gone through hours of fighting training a day before big fights.

Is trained very well.

Vinnie.. hes just street wise and 'ard, if he couldnt knock alex out in 1 punch it would be lights for vinnie i reckon, couldnt keep up.

Edited insulting.

Edited insulting now thats funny.....No it`s not insulting But/and even if it was taken as insulting them you had better go home and crawl under the covers, this no place for sensitive mods.

[30stone]

Edited insulting.

Goodbye :)

[lily.]

The upside to being a moderator - the power of edit.

The downside to being a moderator - you can't give a *****y reply to him lol

[Vicky.]

Goodbye :)

Harsh :laugh:

[Brad.]

No messing Ben lol

[Gavin]

Alex as he's a professional cage fighter. Vinnie is a "hard man" and I'm sure he can beat most people up, but he probably wouldn't be able to compete against the ultra strong Mr Reid.

[Brad.]

Alex as he's a professional cage fighter. Vinnie is a "hard man" and I'm sure he can beat most people up, but he probably wouldn't be able to compete against the ultra strong Mr Reid.

If Vinnie got in first then he would win, if Alex did then he would. Simple.

[30stone]

The upside to being a moderator - the power of edit.

The downside to being a moderator - you can't give a *****y reply to him lol

Yep :)

Harsh :laugh:

Im back to zero tolerence.

Insulting any mod's = straight ban.

[Clockers]

Goodbye :)

I dont get it 30 stones, what just happend with casey and why?

[InOne]

Vinnie, he has that natural anger about him

I was drunk when I replied to this.

But yeah Alex, he looks in pretty good shape.

[Vicky.]

Im back to zero tolerence.

Insulting any mod's = straight ban.

Still, quite harsh for what was said :shocked:

Edit: Thought you meant you were banning her...

Your call I guess.


And brad...vinnie wouldnt get first punch in, and even if he did, alex has taken a lot of hits over the years...sure he could withstand one from a forty odd year old man...

[30stone]

I dont get it 30 stones, what just happend with casey and why?

They decided to insult me.

Decided not to ban as i felt harsh as they may not know im a mod..

If it happens again, they will be banned :)

[30stone]

Still, quite harsh for what was said :shocked:

Your call I guess.




When i first came a mod i was told if someone insults a mod, they are deserving of a ban pretty much straight away.

I followed that when people were seirously insulting, which it was (as in it wasnt a joke).

I gave infraction but not ban due to the member being new.

[Brad.]

Still, quite harsh for what was said :shocked:

Your call I guess.


And brad...vinnie wouldnt get first punch in, and even if he did, alex has taken a lot of hits over the years...sure he could withstand one from a forty odd year old man...

Admittedly Alex would probably get the first punch in and win but if Vinnie caught him off guard then he would have a chance.

Not that they would fight anyway, they are good friends with each other.

[lily.]

Do we get banned for violating you Ben? LoL

[Clockers]

They decided to insult me.

Decided not to ban as i felt harsh as they may not know im a mod..

If it happens again, they will be banned :)

I am in dumb ***** mode at the moment. I just dont get what was insulting. Please explain cos I am trying to suss it out.

[30stone]

Do we get banned for violating you Ben? LoL

No, thats acceptable. Its not all bad.. lol

I am in dumb ***** mode at the moment. I just dont get what was insulting. Please explain cos I am trying to suss it out.

Pretty much saying i was dyslexic from how i was typing..

[catesy]

The upside to being a moderator - the power of edit.

The downside to being a moderator - you can't give a *****y reply to him lol

Lmfao Not *****y at all but true......... is a bad spelling typing moderator needed and worse still paid???

Thats why theres a response `cause others where thinking along the same lines...... look 2 see where the keys are, turn a lite on or atleast font in a way thats eledgeable

Truth makes me smile :spin: truth hurts you.:bawling:

[lily.]

Ironic that you aren't very good at typing either.

And the word you were looking for was 'legible'.

[Brad.]

LOL the mods don't get paid.

Edit: and as Linda said, you're typing is much worse than Ben's anyway.

[catesy]

I am in dumb ***** mode at the moment. I just dont get what was insulting. Please explain cos I am trying to suss it out.
:cat:
No i did not know you are a moderator...... and don`t threaten me with banning as i promise i will complain to your employer...... you can not type in a clear manner and that is the truth

[lily.]

'employer'?

This is an internet forum. People moderate in their free time.. for free.

[catesy]

Ironic that you aren't very good at typing either.

And the word you were looking for was 'legible'.

Nope i meant the other but u understood it right ? haha

[30stone]

:cat:
No i did not know you are a moderator...... and don`t threaten me with banning as i promise i will complain to your employer...... you can not type in a clear manner and that is the truth

If you had said i dont understand what your typing, because i wasn't typing properly maybe, but my typing wasn't that bad at all im guessing everyone bar you understood it..

But you straight insulted me after having about 8 posts on here, i can give you a ban if i want to :)

[Clockers]

:cat:
No i did not know you are a moderator...... and don`t threaten me with banning as i promise i will complain to your employer...... you can not type in a clear manner and that is the truth

Mocking people spelling on fourms is so last decade. I am doing to much sh!t to give a flying ***** about my grammer. Suss what I am saying and if you cannot then just ask. We are all friends here.

[tonysoprano0316]

If Vinnie got in first then he would win, if Alex did then he would. Simple.

If Vinnie connected with a HUGE over hand hay maker after eating plenty of Shredded Wheat while Alex had his eyes closed, then yes, Vinnie might win.

But if it was face to face, no, he wouldn't.

Being a professional fighter, Alex is trained how to slip and dodge much faster and accurate punches from other professional fighters.

I assume Vinnie is a great deal slower than your average professional fighter with much less accuracy.

Hence as quick as Vinnie comes forward, he will be on the deck whether he throws a punch or not.

Looking and acting hard doesn't make you hard.

Alex Reid is a (albeit less than average) mixed martial arts fighter, he might be a bit of a knob, but he's trained for years and put those skills to test against other professionals, something Vinnie hasn't done, ever.

It's all image with Vinnie Jones.

I bet some of the very best mixed martial arts fighters on the planet could enter the Big Brother house next week and some of you people would still go "umm, Vinnie would win, he's streetwise and he was in Lock Stock".

[Jen]

LOL@Employer...

[lily.]

Nope i meant the other but u understood it right ? haha

Illegible.

[30stone]

LOL@Employer...

My pay will be docked and will be given a warning.. :bawling:

[WOMBAI]

:cat:
No i did not know you are a moderator...... and don`t threaten me with banning as i promise i will complain to your employer...... you can not type in a clear manner and that is the truth

As someone already pointed out - your spelling and grammar are not so perfect either - so who are you to complain?

[lily.]

My pay will be docked and will be given a warning.. :bawling:

Could be worse.. ;)

[supergirthuk]

Jones is the sort to catch Alex unaware with a punch to the throat. He is a huge bloke/thug with good upper body strength and reasonably fit by the looks. Toe to toe you would say Alex as he is the fitter but I think Jones is more naturally aggressive and if he got the first one in, in a vital area, when Alex was off guard, then he might win. I would love the fight to happen by the way as its a no lose situation for myself Jones wins thug forever:Alex wins Jones with egg on his face (and hopefully blood too). By the way I doubt either are thick enough to kick off in the house.

[spitfire]

Alex,with ease.

[MojoNixon]

Ross Kemp would win. "Super Army Soldier".....

http://i3.digiguide.com/up/0901/1234130400-684909-RossKemp-12327275750.jpg

[Xabinight]

Jones is the sort to catch Alex unaware with a punch to the throat. He is a huge bloke/thug with good upper body strength and reasonably fit by the looks. Toe to toe you would say Alex as he is the fitter but I think Jones is more naturally aggressive and if he got the first one in, in a vital area, when Alex was off guard, then he might win. I would love the fight to happen by the way as its a no lose situation for myself Jones wins thug forever:Alex wins Jones with egg on his face (and hopefully blood too). By the way I doubt either are thick enough to kick off in the house.

Lol thats about it tbh, Vinnie built his image by picking his fights carefully, what has been missed though is that Lawrie Sanchez kicked the crap out of him at Wimbledon. John Fashanu his big mate tried to get Sanchez back but it ended about even forget what the papers say, look up (dave beasant/Wally Downes etc.). John Hartson his Welsh team mate used to offer Vinnie out every International game, strangely Vinny refused, wonder why?

[arista]

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2010/01/10/article-1242100-07D052B0000005DC-760_468x248.jpg


Alex the Pro Fighter would Win.

[tonysoprano0316]

Jones is the sort to catch Alex unaware with a punch to the throat. He is a huge bloke/thug with good upper body strength and reasonably fit by the looks. Toe to toe you would say Alex as he is the fitter but I think Jones is more naturally aggressive and if he got the first one in, in a vital area, when Alex was off guard, then he might win. I would love the fight to happen by the way as its a no lose situation for myself Jones wins thug forever:Alex wins Jones with egg on his face (and hopefully blood too). By the way I doubt either are thick enough to kick off in the house.

Am I missing something?

Is Vinnie Jones all of a sudden some sort of Steven Seagal type with the skills to aim faster than lightning blows at his opponents weak areas?!

How is Vinnie more naturally aggressive than a person who's job it is to be naturally aggressive?

Alex Reid has fought REAL FIGHTERS many times.

Vinnie Jones hasn't, ever.

Alex Reid can wrestle and knows Jiu Jitsu, if he wanted he could take Vinnie Jones off his feet and pull his arm out of the socket, it wouldn't even be a fight, people AMAZE me saying that an actor would even stand a chance against him in a real fight.

Because Alex Reid is a knob people are underestimating his martial arts skills, and although he is far from the best mixed martial arts fighter, he is still much more skilled than Vinnie.

[Damaris]

Alex

he is a cage fighter.
He fights for a living,