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Crimson Dynamo
11-01-2010, 12:53 PM
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/religion/6958571/Britons-are-suspicious-towards-Muslims-study-finds.html


I am and if i was a user of public transport I would be very wary.

lily.
11-01-2010, 12:58 PM
If I'm on the bus, I'm not distrustful of anyone on it with me.. no matter their race/religion.


... except the driver..

Shaun
11-01-2010, 12:59 PM
No more than I am about Christians.

lily.
11-01-2010, 01:00 PM
It's Jehovas that frighten me tbh.. -runs-

arista
11-01-2010, 01:03 PM
"The British public are concerned at the rise of Islam
in the UK and fear that the country is deeply divided
along religious lines, according to a major survey. "


Yes Islam is not British
Fact.

lily.
11-01-2010, 01:05 PM
I'm genuinely sick of other people's religion being shoved in my *****ing face all the time. I don't give a ***** what people want to believe in or what religion they want to adhere to... but seriously just **** about it and get on with it... it's your own business.. and I don't want to know.

I'm atheist... I don't go around yelling about it or protesting or waving *****ing banners...

Seriously..!

Crimson Dynamo
11-01-2010, 01:09 PM
No more than I am about Christians.

yes on that long haul flight to New York on one side you have a sweaty asian looking guy muttering the koran to himself and on the other side a Nun


but hey, both are making you anxious



get




real

Jack_
11-01-2010, 01:14 PM
yes on that long haul flight to New York on one side you have a sweaty asian looking guy muttering the koran to himself and on the other side a Nun


but hey, both are making you anxious



get




real

:joker:

In all honesty, yes. Though I don't want to be, just am.

Shaun
11-01-2010, 01:17 PM
yes on that long haul flight to New York on one side you have a sweaty asian looking guy muttering the koran to himself and on the other side a Nun


but hey, both are making you anxious



get




real

If I had the choice of sitting next to you or Cat Stevens I think I'd know which I'd choose.

setanta
11-01-2010, 01:19 PM
yes on that long haul flight to New York on one side you have a sweaty asian looking guy muttering the koran to himself and on the other side a Nun


but hey, both are making you anxious



get




real

I'd probably choose a Nun yeah, but if we're talking about a priest I'd take my chances with the nervous looking Asian rather than sweat buckets throughout the flight for fear of falling asleep beside a possible fiddler.

Dr.Gonzo
11-01-2010, 01:21 PM
Kudos Trumpet Trousers. I love Fern - I'd bum her in the mouth. However, your avatar is the only thing I will compliment today.

I'm not suspicious about them, but I am *****ing sick of hearing about them. What, they blow some **** up and turn into a bunch of attention *****s...? In spring the Paris fashion shows will have TNT vests and overlarge bandanas as the new look, whilst in McD's Summer Specials will include BBQ Terrorist burger. Let's get a grip eh? Was it them that expLOded things? Or do they just look alike? Don't answer because I don't *****ing care.

Crimson Dynamo
11-01-2010, 01:22 PM
If I had the choice of sitting next to you or Cat Stevens I think I'd know which I'd choose.

Cat Dealey and I will give you it.

Crimson Dynamo
11-01-2010, 01:23 PM
Kudos Trumpet Trousers. I love Fern - I'd bum her in the mouth. However, your avatar is the only thing I will compliment today.

I'm not suspicious about them, but I am *****ing sick of hearing about them. What, they blow some **** up and turn into a bunch of attention *****s...? In spring the Paris fashion shows will have TNT vests and overlarge bandanas as the new look, whilst in McD's Summer Specials will include BBQ Terrorist burger. Let's get a grip eh? Was it them that expLOded things? Or do they just look alike? Don't answer because I don't *****ing care.

Fern or Pickle (as her mum calls her) is suspicious too

Dr.Gonzo
11-01-2010, 01:24 PM
Fern or Pickle (as her mum calls her) is suspicious too

She isn't... she just has beady eyes.

Stacey.
11-01-2010, 01:59 PM
yeh i am really i suppose :/
Its just the fact that they look different and sound different,
And i feel quite unsafe around them :/

Dr.Gonzo
11-01-2010, 02:04 PM
I'm pretty sure that when you open your mouth you'd be quite unsafe around most people.

lily.
11-01-2010, 02:06 PM
Very true.

Rob
11-01-2010, 02:42 PM
a little cautious but hey isn't everyone

BB_Eye
11-01-2010, 03:49 PM
Yeah, the chances of a muslim on public transport being a terrorist are about one in three million. You can never be too careful. ;)

BBUK4LYFE
11-01-2010, 04:22 PM
I'm suspicious of everyone. Thats how you have to live life in this day and age.

Captain.Remy
11-01-2010, 04:59 PM
I'm not suspicious of them, otherwise I wouldn't have dated a Muslim girl for 2 years and spent time in her house with her dad, mum and brothers who all are Muslims. What they taught me is that we should be careful or suspicious of extremists and not only Muslims but from other religions too. I guess it's too bad that some people out there make Islam look like terrorism or extremists, they're not all like that. But I can see why some people can get suspicious.

lily.
11-01-2010, 05:19 PM
I'm suspicious of everyone. Thats how you have to live life in this day and age.

I'd agree with that. I'm cynical though.. so maybe I tend to see the worst in people lol

InOne
11-01-2010, 05:21 PM
Not really suspicious, just kinda annoys me when the skyline of a city looks like Afghanistan

Spike
11-01-2010, 05:24 PM
No. No more suspicious of muslims than any other person about

Wildcat!
11-01-2010, 06:26 PM
LOL! This is hilarious. YOu do realise that maybe in 5% of the cases will you see muslims, and know that they are muslims by the way they look. Most of them look like the average joe in the street.
As a matter of fact, the muslim who is about to blow you up, make sure they look like the average Joe . They are not gonna show up dressed in traditional muslim clothes, and sport a long beard. LOL!

Captain.Remy
11-01-2010, 06:31 PM
LOL! This is hilarious. YOu do realise that maybe in 5% of the cases will you see muslims, and know that they are muslims by the way they look. Most of them look like the average joe in the street.
As a matter of fact, terrorists make sure they look like the average Joe if they are gonna do something. They are not gonna show up dressed in traditional muslim clothes, and sport a long beard. LOL!

Can you imagine them wearing traditional clothes at the airport saying 'Hello ladies and gentlemen I'm going to blow myself up, would you please step backwards." :joker:
I can see why people are stereotyping Muslims but they're wrong. Yet there are stereotypes for everything nowadays.

lily.
11-01-2010, 06:32 PM
That occurred to me when I read the title, and I did think it might have made more sense to say "Are you suspicious about asians?".

Wildcat!
11-01-2010, 06:33 PM
Can you imagine them wearing traditional clothes at the airport saying 'Hello ladies and gentlemen I'm going to blow myself up, would you please step forward." :joker:
I can see why people are stereotyping Muslims but they're wrong. Yet there are stereotypes for everything nowadays.


LMAO! Some just dont have any sense of logic. The Terrorist will do everything to blend in. The dude who "looks" like a muslim, is the last person I would be suspicious of. LOL.

Captain.Remy
11-01-2010, 06:34 PM
That occurred to me when I read the title, and I did think it might have made more sense to say "Are you suspicious about asians?".

Yeah these yellows are nasty. Kick the **** out of them and burn them on public places.

:joker:

lily.
11-01-2010, 06:42 PM
I think the BB4LYF person made a good point though.. nowadays we are suspicious of everyone. If I'm walking back to my car and it's dark and some poor fellow happens to be walking behind me going the same way.. I'm ready to roundhouse the *****er lol

InOne
11-01-2010, 06:43 PM
That is the sad thing, they are most likely well spoken, well dressed, intelligent young men who you'd probably get along with. Sad and scary at the same time.

setanta
11-01-2010, 06:44 PM
I blame Team America. If I ever hear badurka wurka in real life I'm hitting the deck immediately or doing a legger. hee hee

Stu
11-01-2010, 07:26 PM
I am suspicious of idiots in general, who span the whole gammot of religions and cultural stereotypes. Take LeatherTrumpet, for instance. I wouldn't trust a Muslim with a bomb but I wouldn't trust out illustrious thread starter with a book of fairytales. Who knows where it might lead.

Wait -

Crimson Dynamo
12-01-2010, 09:14 AM
LMAO! Some just dont have any sense of logic. The Terrorist will do everything to blend in. The dude who "looks" like a muslim, is the last person I would be suspicious of. LOL.

All the successful plane bombers have looked like nervous Muslims to most people. The tube bombers looked like nervous Muslims with big backpacks.

Please read the report that started the thread and deal with the reality and not the happy liberal land that you would like to live in.

Crimson Dynamo
12-01-2010, 09:15 AM
I am suspicious of idiots in general, who span the whole gammot of religions and cultural stereotypes. Take LeatherTrumpet, for instance. I wouldn't trust a Muslim with a bomb but I wouldn't trust out illustrious thread starter with a book of fairytales. Who knows where it might lead.

Wait -

blah, blah, blah, personal insult, blah blah blah


I was hoping that you would have got laid at Christmas but alas....

Fom
12-01-2010, 09:17 AM
It annoys me when people get scared of men wearing muslim clothing and have a beard, if they were going to blow up transport they would shave first, if they knew they were going to heaven then it is their religion to leave clean shaved. If they have a beard then they are more likely to blow a bus up than anyone else.

Tom4784
13-01-2010, 05:34 PM
Not any more then I would be of anyone else, you're more likely to be attacked by chavs then by a terrorist really.

Beastie
13-01-2010, 06:12 PM
No

Freakmebaby_ahh..yh!
14-01-2010, 11:56 PM
yeah these yellows are nasty. Kick the **** out of them and burn them on public places.

:joker:

that is disgusting.

ILoveTRW
14-01-2010, 11:58 PM
im always ******** my self on the tube when a Muslim gets on, it not because im racist it because im cautious

ILoveTRW
15-01-2010, 12:00 AM
Not any more then I would be of anyone else, you're more likely to be attacked by chavs then by a terrorist really.

but your more likely to die when your attacked by a terrorist

Freakmebaby_ahh..yh!
15-01-2010, 12:12 AM
before 9/11, people didnt have the idea of associating terrorism with muslims as it had never happened. since 9/11 and 7/7 people are now scared of them.

what about the IRA ? they've committed many terrorist crimes, yet when an irishman boards a plane no 1 gets scared etc.

some religious muslims dont dress in western fashion, and yes they look odd compared 2 every1 else, people shouldnt be narrow minded and judge on ones appearance.

any one can be a terrorist is what im trying to say.

Freakmebaby_ahh..yh!
15-01-2010, 12:14 AM
but your more likely to die when your attacked by a terrorist

... who doesnt necessarily have to be a muslim

lily.
15-01-2010, 12:15 AM
It annoys me when people get scared of men wearing muslim clothing and have a beard, if they were going to blow up transport they would shave first, if they knew they were going to heaven then it is their religion to leave clean shaved. If they have a beard then they are more likely to blow a bus up than anyone else.


They're not going to heaven if they kill themselves... according to their own book.

ILoveTRW
15-01-2010, 12:17 AM
... who doesnt necessarily have to be a muslim

of course, but 4 in 5 are

Freakmebaby_ahh..yh!
15-01-2010, 12:18 AM
of course, but 4 in 5 are

your statistic is inaccurate.

Tom4784
15-01-2010, 12:20 AM
but your more likely to die when your attacked by a terrorist

But there's more deaths due to gang violence and knife crime each year then Terror attacks. It happens more often and more people die from it.

ILoveTRW
15-01-2010, 12:20 AM
your statistic is inaccurate.

no really, apart from the IRA and that one in spain, name a major terrorist organisation that doesnt have its root in the middle east

ILoveTRW
15-01-2010, 12:23 AM
But there's more deaths due to gang violence and knife crime each year then Terror attacks. It happens more often and more people die from it.

people who die divided by the number of attacks

will give you a bigger number for terrorist :thumbs:

Freakmebaby_ahh..yh!
15-01-2010, 12:25 AM
no really, apart from the IRA and that one is spain, name a major terrorist organisation that doesnt have its root in the middle east

well i was talking in the context of uk muslims.

and ur still wrong. thats practically saying the entire middle east population are terrorists.

anyway dont want 2 get heated. i will post on other threads now.

i understand your attitude i just didnt like the idea of grouping one kind of people into marking them as invalid. its not nice irregardless of what religion they are.

goodbye. have happy thoughts

InOne
15-01-2010, 01:35 AM
before 9/11, people didnt have the idea of associating terrorism with muslims as it had never happened. since 9/11 and 7/7 people are now scared of them.

what about the IRA ? they've committed many terrorist crimes, yet when an irishman boards a plane no 1 gets scared etc.

some religious muslims dont dress in western fashion, and yes they look odd compared 2 every1 else, people shouldnt be narrow minded and judge on ones appearance.

any one can be a terrorist is what im trying to say.

Think that is a race issue tbh.

andyman
15-01-2010, 01:45 AM
Off topic but I do enjoy watching BBC4.. Intresting programs like how does a universe that starts off as dust end up with intelligent life.. On now!

Shaun
15-01-2010, 01:47 AM
before 9/11, people didnt have the idea of associating terrorism with muslims

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1993_World_Trade_Center_bombing

But I do agree with the rest of what you said.

andyman
15-01-2010, 01:49 AM
Well it was.. It might be repeted at a later date.

Next on BBC4.. Time. Part 2 of 4.

Series in which Michio Kaku goes on an exploration of the world in search of time. This edition looks at the human life span and scientific research into extending it.

Captain.Remy
15-01-2010, 07:05 AM
that is disgusting.

I wasn't being serious I hope you get that lol

Sticks
15-01-2010, 07:48 AM
Let's correct a few misconceptions here


Islamic fundamentalists are different from the IRA. The IRA did not have a pholosophy that was twisted by others to produce suicide bombers. IRA members wanted to get out alive.
The Jihadi is taught that what he is doing is striking at the enemy and that any good muslim who dies fighting for Allah will enter paradise with a certain number of virgins
Jihad is just meant to be a struggle - A good muslim's jihad may be his struggle to quit smoking - the term Jihad has been hijacked and missused


Now on to things you do not hear.

When muslims move into an area, like say the West End of Newcastle near where I live, crime goes down. I'll say that again, crime goes down.

Some of them are the most devoted and hard working people I have come across.

Not all of them are exxtremists, in fact on the night of 9/11 the muslim who runs the local chippy was appauled at what had been done in the name of Islam.

Halal cooking really tasty and I quite like it*

* Before you talk about slaughtering techniques we in the west are not that much better

Vicky.
15-01-2010, 07:55 AM
Indeed sticks, the majority are lovely. However, we had one muslim man in our bar the other day, mortal drunk shouting on about how he agreed with 9/11 etc.

Needless to say, one of the regulars kicked the sh** out of him. Deserved, I'd say, harsh as that sounds.

Wildcat!
15-01-2010, 08:51 AM
Let's correct a few misconceptions here


Islamic fundamentalists are different from the IRA. The IRA did not have a pholosophy that was twisted by others to produce suicide bombers. IRA members wanted to get out alive.
The Jihadi is taught that what he is doing is striking at the enemy and that any good muslim who dies fighting for Allah will enter paradise with a certain number of virgins
Jihad is just meant to be a struggle - A good muslim's jihad may be his struggle to quit smoking - the term Jihad has been hijacked and missused


Now on to things you do not hear.

When muslims move into an area, like say the West End of Newcastle near where I live, crime goes down. I'll say that again, crime goes down.

Some of them are the most devoted and hard working people I have come across.

Not all of them are exxtremists, in fact on the night of 9/11 the muslim who runs the local chippy was appauled at what had been done in the name of Islam.

Halal cooking really tasty and I quite like it*

* Before you talk about slaughtering techniques we in the west are not that much better

A well thought out, and very informed post, based on what actually is true. I am glad it comes from a Christian as well. Much respect.

Yeah what you said is exactly true what Jihad means. And terorists are just brainwashed. I call them evil really, and everything they stand for is completely opposite to Islam. The killing of innocent people. They arent killing people who are oppressing them.
In the 9/11 bombing for example, what people dont know is obviously, a lot of muslim people die. How can you kill innocent people, but furthermore, innoent muslims, in the name of islam?

Wildcat!
15-01-2010, 08:53 AM
Indeed sticks, the majority are lovely. However, we had one muslim man in our bar the other day, mortal drunk shouting on about how he agreed with 9/11 etc.

Needless to say, one of the regulars kicked the sh** out of him. Deserved, I'd say, harsh as that sounds.


The fact that you said muslim/bar/drunk, should tell you everything. A true Muslim, wouldnt be drunk, or in a bar, in the first place.

NettoSuperstar!
15-01-2010, 09:16 AM
No more than anyone else, I've known many muslims throughout my life, I know the likelihood of them being a terrorist is extremely low, people are people, most people just wanna get on with their lives, bring their families up, get good jobs etc etc, no different for muslims lol

kcmik
17-01-2010, 05:00 AM
i feel sorry for the genuine muslims, who pray and obey as their way of life, have people thinking they're terrorists , because of the fake muslims. So so sad :-(

andyman
17-01-2010, 06:22 AM
Any muslims on the forum? :shrug:

ange7
17-01-2010, 06:28 AM
That is the sad thing, they are most likely well spoken, well dressed, intelligent young men who you'd probably get along with. Sad and scary at the same time.
Sad and scary at the same time
got it "InOne"

ange7
17-01-2010, 06:32 AM
Indeed sticks, the majority are lovely. However, we had one muslim man in our bar the other day, mortal drunk shouting on about how he agreed with 9/11 etc.

Needless to say, one of the regulars kicked the sh** out of him. Deserved, I'd say, harsh as that sounds.
nah he didn't... . You sound like you hate the violence of 9/11 and then give this guys beating a tick?

ange7
17-01-2010, 06:35 AM
great post Sticks

Crimson Dynamo
17-01-2010, 01:33 PM
Let's correct a few misconceptions here


Islamic fundamentalists are different from the IRA. The IRA did not have a pholosophy that was twisted by others to produce suicide bombers. IRA members wanted to get out alive.
The Jihadi is taught that what he is doing is striking at the enemy and that any good muslim who dies fighting for Allah will enter paradise with a certain number of virgins
Jihad is just meant to be a struggle - A good muslim's jihad may be his struggle to quit smoking - the term Jihad has been hijacked and missused


Now on to things you do not hear.

When muslims move into an area, like say the West End of Newcastle near where I live, crime goes down. I'll say that again, crime goes down.

Some of them are the most devoted and hard working people I have come across.

Not all of them are exxtremists, in fact on the night of 9/11 the muslim who runs the local chippy was appauled at what had been done in the name of Islam.

Halal cooking really tasty and I quite like it*

* Before you talk about slaughtering techniques we in the west are not that much better


That is why they need PR in the UK and the USA. They have no spokesperson who can speak out against terrorism, correct stereotypes and talk up Muslims in the UK.


The vacuum is filled in a negative way and will continue to be so.

spitfire
17-01-2010, 01:40 PM
Islamic fundamentalists are different from the IRA. The IRA did not have a pholosophy that was twisted by others to produce suicide bombers.
Instead they forced innocent people to become suicide bombers.


IRA members wanted to get out alive.
Shame about poor old Thomas Begley.:joker::laugh3:

MarkWaldorf
17-01-2010, 01:46 PM
It depends on the situation. If I saw a stereotypical one in the street (long beard, clothing etc) then no I wouldn't be, but if I was on a tube/bus I can't say I wouldn't be a little bit suspicious.

But I agree with Sticks. Some muslims are the nicest people I know. I have a friend who's a muslim and I'm quite close with his family and they're extremely welcoming of me and what I am. And he's pretty appalled that some of the people who commit these crimes are from the same religion as him and worship the same God.

Tom4784
17-01-2010, 03:14 PM
Let's correct a few misconceptions here


Islamic fundamentalists are different from the IRA. The IRA did not have a pholosophy that was twisted by others to produce suicide bombers. IRA members wanted to get out alive.
The Jihadi is taught that what he is doing is striking at the enemy and that any good muslim who dies fighting for Allah will enter paradise with a certain number of virgins
Jihad is just meant to be a struggle - A good muslim's jihad may be his struggle to quit smoking - the term Jihad has been hijacked and missused


Now on to things you do not hear.

When muslims move into an area, like say the West End of Newcastle near where I live, crime goes down. I'll say that again, crime goes down.

Some of them are the most devoted and hard working people I have come across.

Not all of them are exxtremists, in fact on the night of 9/11 the muslim who runs the local chippy was appauled at what had been done in the name of Islam.

Halal cooking really tasty and I quite like it*

* Before you talk about slaughtering techniques we in the west are not that much better

*applauds*

I agree completely, I can't comment on the IRA stuff though as I don't really know much about it but everything else I can say is spot on.

Crimson Dynamo
17-01-2010, 03:30 PM
* Before you talk about slaughtering techniques we in the west are not that much better

What do you mean by that?