[POLL] Nicola V Stephen - whos side are you on?

[Conzors]

Who's side are you on with the argument that occured between Nicola and Stephen tonight?

Personally i am on Nicola's side, as he did say it but hes trying to say that Nicola did it to try and make her look bad, when really hes acting like a knob.

Go Nicola

;D

xx

[Jords]

Nicola, and not just because I am a big fan of hers, but she was in the right. :)

[Stacey.]

Stephen :)
nicola is turning out like, a bit fake.
:bored:

[Conzors]

Stephen :)
nicola is turning out like, a bit fake.
:bored:

How is Nicola fake, when Stephen is the one who is being fake by lying?

:|

[Jords]

Shes a Stephen fan Conzor.

[Stu]

I don't know how you can be on Stephens side, considering it's utter fact that he was the liar in the situation.

[Blink_Me]

Stephen was obviously in the wrong. He knows what he's doing.

[Stacey.]

How is Nicola fake, when Stephen is the one who is being fake by lying?

:|

thats what stephen believed is true though :/
shes nice to peoples faces, but not behind their back :nono:
eg. to katia

[Jordan.]

neither they had a disagreement not a war

[30stone]

Stephen :)
nicola is turning out like, a bit fake.
:bored:

How so?

I don't know how you can be on Stephens side, considering it's utter fact that he was the liar in the situation.

This.
It was rather crindgeworthy to watch him say he didnt say it, when big brother doesn't lie about something so serious. And never apologised either, man would get on my nerves.

[Jords]

Nominations are nominations, they all nominate but still nice to faces - Stephen included.

[Patrick]

The lovely Nicola T :lovedup:

[Beastie]

These 2 are my faves along with Sov. Lol my 3 faves are completely different :joker:

[chuff me dizzy]

There is no contest ,surely EVERYONE is on the side of the honest HM8 ,not the lier ?

[RCW1945]

If you listen again you will find that neither of them said "It's a bit late for that".
These words were said by Vinnie. NT said "Sorry, Stevie B", she could not have logically said to herself "It's a bit late for that". After V's interjection SB said "It's OK, you are safe".
So SB broke the rules and lied when he accused NT of saying V's words.

[Shasown]

Who's side are you on with the argument that occured between Nicola and Stephen tonight?

Personally i am on Nicola's side, as he did say it but hes trying to say that Nicola did it to try and make her look bad, when really hes acting like a knob.

Go Nicola

;D

xx

hear hear, Nicola, not only for all the points argued in her favour above but also because if anyone is to receive a reasonable portion of my man fat tonight between the two it would have to be her.

Old Cry Baby Baldwin or Spineless Stephen as we used to call him in the Betty Ford Clinic never warranted a load of baby gravy then and still doesnt.

[Athleticguy29]

Steven clearly lied,he just cant admit to it because he doesnt like to be wrong,thinks hes super clever.

[Ramsay]

Stephen
hes such a **** that hes a legend!

[3/5]

1:22pm
Vinnie: I wouldn't have a clue who he would vote for you know
NT: I know (agreeing with V)
NT: well probably me now because I have told him off today
NT: really sorry, Stevie B
SB: HA HA HA HA
Vinnie: a bit late for that eh
SB: Ah yeah you should have thought of that before
Vinnie: No he knows who he is
SB: Your nice and safe Nicky, don't worry about it

[RCW1945]

Excellent first post 3/5, 100% accurate.
So this whole thread pointless, SB was guilty on all counts (god gave him permission to be a lying miscreant).

[Felonious_monk]

Actually, Nicola attributed the 'you should have thought about that earlier' line to Stephen in the Diary room. Stephen never mentioned that she said that line. Vinnie actually said that line. When Nicola came back to confront Stephen, she told him that BB had said that Stephen had said that.

So then Stephen takes Nicola at her word and assumes BB is lying. She's kind of annoying to be making such a mountain out of it in that whiney voice.

and i'm kind of a sucker for spending time registering here to make such a trivial point. but anyway, he's not so in the wrong as people have been suggesting.

[Jords]

Actually, Nicola attributed the 'you should have thought about that earlier' line to Stephen in the Diary room. Stephen never mentioned that she said that line. Vinnie actually said that line. When Nicola came back to confront Stephen, she told him that BB had said that Stephen had said that.

So then Stephen takes Nicola at her word and assumes BB is lying. She's kind of annoying to be making such a mountain out of it in that whiney voice.

and i'm kind of a sucker for spending time registering here to make such a trivial point. but anyway, he's not so in the wrong as people have been suggesting.

But Stephen himself accused Nicola of saying it, when it was infact Vinnie. And then told her she had selective memory before she went to the DR, when that is not true but he simply said it to try and win the debate and make Nicola look bad - when he broke the rules.

[LaLaLand]

Nicola, Stephen was just plain wrong doing that but good on her for confronting him!

[Prole]

I don't really like either of them, but Steven was clearly wrong.

[Felonious_monk]

But Stephen himself accused Nicola of saying it, when it was infact Vinnie. And then told her she had selective memory before she went to the DR, when that is not true but he simply said it to try and win the debate and make Nicola look bad - when he broke the rules.


dunno, i'll have to give the pre-diary room consultation / living room chat another watch. gawd, it's so easy to get drawn into this stuff.

On revision, I don't think Stephen is in the right but if someone brings up the subject of a nomination, like who you voted for you either have to say nothing or make a joke out of it. he was probably trying to do the latter but didn't deal with it that well when Nicola brought the subject up. She's over concerned with how she's coming across, he's somewhere else altogether. cuckoo.

[jegmeister]

A pathetic mountain out of a molehill that Nicola artificially made more significant than it should have been. Stephen shouldn't have accused BB of lying but then he didn't hear what was said.

Both behaved like pratts - both broke the rules. End of story. Move on.

[supergirthuk]

Stephen is a liar and a racist. How could he vote for Sov saying she does the least in the house when Heidi is in there. The woman is clearly bone idle even if she has had a bad time of it recently and his choice to ignore her is purely the fact that she is a fellow american. They always stick together in CBB like the proverbial to the blanket. Does he not know that lying is a sin and he will therefore be going straight to hell?

[supergirthuk]

A pathetic mountain out of a molehill that Nicola artificially made more significant than it should have been. Stephen shouldn't have accused BB of lying but then he didn't hear what was said.

Both behaved like pratts - both broke the rules. End of story. Move on.

She didnt brake the rules, he did. Confirmed by BB. He was his usual obnoxious self and tried to make her look bad and belittle her saying that she had selective hearing in a patronising manner. He was back-peddling so fast he nearly ended up in CBB4. Not a nice man at all.

[Iceman]

Nicola, clearly in the right, then that idiot asked her for an apology, what an asshole

[Big_Kahuna]

Stephen told what was said , we ALL saw it . He said it was a joke about nominations, it was, she started the nomination convo. Nicola is just looking for drama. They are both in the wrong.

[supergirthuk]

Stephen told what was said , we ALL saw it . He said it was a joke about nominations, it was, she started the nomination convo. Nicola is just looking for drama. They are both in the wrong.

All she said was that she had had an argument with Stephen and "Im sorry Stevie B". Jones said you'll be sorry now and Baldwin talked about her "being safe". Baldwin inferred that she would be safe from receiving his vote and hence broke the rules. Nicola broke no rule. Jones started the nomination talk by insinuating that she might be sorry for the argument, in that stephen may vote for her but Baldwin went too far by saying that he wouldnt.

Worse than all this though is the way he reacted towards her in the living room saying she had selective hearing and then twisting her words so she didnt even know what she said and then in the kitchen when, rather than accept that he may have made a mistake in what he had said and heard, he lied and said that BB had lied and expected Nicola to apologise to him AND then avoided any apology to Nicola for his earlier slurr infront of the other housemates.

As I said earlier not a nice man.

[Jessica.]

I hate stephen so much!

[Big_Kahuna]

Watch it again then you might see the joke. BB is stirring S**t so Heidi doesn't get all the blame and walk.

[supergirthuk]

Watch it again then you might see the joke. BB is stirring S**t so Heidi doesn't get all the blame and walk.

It doesnt matter if its a joke or not its a fundamental rule of big brother not to talk about nominations which he broke end of. No Biggy until he started trying to shift blame onto Nicola and being insulting to boot.

[supergirthuk]

Heidi wont walk and lose her fee when she will feel she is going on Friday anyway and will be receive it.

[Big_Kahuna]

I can see Stephen is a pain in the arse. He did say it as it was though.

[supergirthuk]

Being American he is probably so conditioned not to accept blame for anything as they are so litigious over there it may have been automatic to try and deflect blame but personally I beleive, with him being both an actor, a preacher and a man who has predominately used and worked with words throughout his life, that he has considered what he has said and lied through his teeth. Thats my opinion anyway.

[Clockers]

Nic T accidently set Steven up for what came out of his mouth as he assumed it was about Nominations (possibly was). Aftermath is Nic spoke to big brother about the situation to confirm in her own thick skull what she actually DIDN'T say. Steven is in the wrong but he still doesn't realise that Nic has been confirmed by BB for not saying anything wrong herself during pre nomination conversation (ironically he has selective memory). Not defending the *****ing Dork just explaining the dynamics of that scenario.

I hope that makes sense for you Mother *****ers.

[WAYNEEBRUM]

i dont care who is in the wrong,Stephen makes me laugh but nics just boring me with the dumb act.

[Stacey.]

How so?





eg. katia :shrug:

[BBUK4LYFE]

Why call Stephen a liar when he was mistaken? **** happens, not that serious. I re-watched that part and Stephen did say what bigbrother said, BUT bigbrother also left out the part where Nicola brought up the discussion about nominations. She started the convo, whats why Stephen was mistaken. He was right about that part, not just what he said.

[BBUK4LYFE]

Stephen is a liar and a racist.

Do you know what racist means or are you just an idiot?

[BBUK4LYFE]

Stephen told what was said , we ALL saw it . He said it was a joke about nominations, it was, she started the nomination convo. Nicola is just looking for drama. They are both in the wrong.

EXACTLY.

Thats why Stephen was mistaken. BigBrother willfully did not mention that part, because they wanted drama. She is just as guilty as Stephen. She started the convo, because she thought that she got nominated. Re-watch the clip and you'll see it for yourself.

[BBUK4LYFE]

She didnt brake the rules, he did. Confirmed by BB. He was his usual obnoxious self and tried to make her look bad and belittle her saying that she had selective hearing in a patronising manner. He was back-peddling so fast he nearly ended up in CBB4. Not a nice man at all.
Watch it over, dude. Bigbrother did not repeat the whole convo and you'll clearly see what happened. Stephon did not start it, she did.

[BBUK4LYFE]

Watch it again then you might see the joke. BB is stirring S**t so Heidi doesn't get all the blame and walk.

Yep.

[BBUK4LYFE]

All she said was that she had had an argument with Stephen and "Im sorry Stevie B".



Thats not all what she said. They only repeated that part. By the way you sound, like an effing idiot. But "hes not a nice man". Wtf is wrong with you honestly?

[Stu]

I wonder would you be sticking up for him so hard if he wasn't ~AMERICAN MAN!

[BBUK4LYFE]

I wonder would you be sticking up for him so hard if he wasn't ~AMERICAN MAN!
What does American have to do with it?

I'm not an American.

[Stu]

Really? Like ... you don't live there or anything? Seems like you do.

[Chels]

Nicola, simply because Stephen was in the wrong.
I don't like Nicola or anything.

[BBUK4LYFE]

Really? Like ... you don't live there or anything? Seems like you do.

I feel insulted.

[yousoboo!]

Stephen was so manipulative.

[Niamh.]

I thought it was hilarious how Stephen just will not admit he's wrong lol Nicola is not as stupid as she acts

[Stu]

I feel insulted.
Then you are a bit of a sensitive girl. I'm only wondering if you are living in America. The fact that you won't answer, have 'BBUK4LYF' as a username, and a sig/avatar set of an American sports star makes it pretty easy to assume you are living in America.

[30stone]

eg. katia :shrug:

You said she seems a bit fake,

i say how so..
and you say "eg. Katia" tell me what you mean by that?
What has she done to make her fake.

Steven was in the wrong 100% he didn't want to believe he was part of the reason everyone got punished so blamed and insulted nicola, needs to just take responsibility for his actions, they were both in the wrong (him moreso) she took it, he says big brother lied and that he never said it.. he did.

[Niamh.]

You said she seems a bit fake,

i say how so..
and you say "eg. Katia" tell me what you mean by that?
What has she done to make her fake.

Steven was in the wrong 100% he didn't want to believe he was part of the reason everyone got punished so blamed and insulted nicola, needs to just take responsibility for his actions, they were both in the wrong (him moreso) she took it, he says big brother lied and that he never said it.. he did.

Yeah, I agree, I bet Stephen knew it was him but thought to himself Nicola is thick as a ditch, I'll be able to blame it on her and she won't have a clue! But like I said she's not as stupid as she makes out!!

[BBfan46]

I'm supporting Stephen.
But Nicola was right, I think Stephen doesn't realise Big Brother doesn't lie when replaying conversations. They said "Hell Lies in others." and that's what he's been expecting.

[Jack_]

Nicola's, but when Stephen said 'Big Brother is lying. It's a game' I laughed. That was a classic :joker:

[supergirthuk]

Do you know what racist means or are you just an idiot?

Maybe should have called him a Nazi instead of a racist actually.

[supergirthuk]

BBUK4LYFE, if you are going to quote me then quote the whole post and not just a portion as if you read, assuming you can, I usually explain where I am coming from. Go back and have another go at reading the bigger words again.
Oh and as you will see I have admited that racist was the wrong word as being from the uk, ie not from america, we are not a race but a nation, as america is and therefore nazi(nationalist) would have been more appropriate. Well done for noticing that! It must have been really difficult spotting that with your head so far up Stephen's backside.

[stickydatepudding]

1:22pm
Vinnie: I wouldn't have a clue who he would vote for you know
NT: I know (agreeing with V)
NT: well probably me now because I have told him off today
NT: really sorry, Stevie B
SB: HA HA HA HA
Vinnie: a bit late for that eh
SB: Ah yeah you should have thought of that before
Vinnie: No he knows who he is
SB: Your nice and safe Nicky, don't worry about it

I came here to post my transcription of it, it's pretty much the same as yours.

Vinnie: I wonder, I wouldn't have a clue who he'd vote for, you know.

Nicola: I know. Well probably me now, because I've told him off today. Really sorry Stevie B.

Stephen laughs, so does Nicola.

Vinnie: Bit late for that, ey?

Stephen: You should have thought of that before.

Vinnie: No, he knows who it (he?) is

Stephen: You're nice and safe Nicky. Don't worry about it.

I think they both believed what they were saying. Stephen was confused, I was thinking it might be part of being a former drug addict, that his memory isn't great, and that he can't see when he's wrong?

Notice that BB wrote Vinnie out of his recap though? Was it to protect the favourite maybe, to not remind people that he was the one who started the conversation (most viewers probably wouldn't re-watch it)?

[Felonious_monk]

Let's remember something. We're arguing about whether either a deluded creationalist bible basher or a passive-aggressive dumb ass serial wag is in the right or wrong.

[BBUK4LYFE]

BBUK4LYFE, if you are going to quote me then quote the whole post and not just a portion as if you read, assuming you can, I usually explain where I am coming from. Go back and have another go at reading the bigger words again.
Oh and as you will see I have admited that racist was the wrong word as being from the uk, ie not from america, we are not a race but a nation, as america is and therefore nazi(nationalist) would have been more appropriate. Well done for noticing that! It must have been really difficult spotting that with your head so far up Stephen's backside.

:joker:

Thanks for the laugh.

[supergirthuk]

I came here to post my transcription of it, it's pretty much the same as yours.



I think they both believed what they were saying. Stephen was confused, I was thinking it might be part of being a former drug addict, that his memory isn't great, and that he can't see when he's wrong?

Notice that BB wrote Vinnie out of his recap though? Was it to protect the favourite maybe, to not remind people that he was the one who started the conversation (most viewers probably wouldn't re-watch it)?

Exactly this except if Baldwin wasnt sure of what he had said then why not just admit it instead of deny it was his fault! After this the insulting selective hearing remark and the inablity to admit he was either wrong or accept any blame or offer Nicola an apology, (all in a considered/thought out manner) makes me feel he may have known exactly what was said and went on the defensive to try and save face.
Deffo noticed Jones's comments being omitted though and thought exactly the same as yourself as they try and ease him into the last week. Just the same as the coverage of Stephen being relaxed when the bible bashing threads took over this place.

[supergirthuk]

:joker:

Thanks for the laugh.

Your welcome. :)

[Conzors]

ooo i like these opinions! x

[Jessica.]

Nicola > Stephen!

[txprincess311]

I came here to post my transcription of it, it's pretty much the same as yours.



I think they both believed what they were saying. Stephen was confused, I was thinking it might be part of being a former drug addict, that his memory isn't great, and that he can't see when he's wrong?

Notice that BB wrote Vinnie out of his recap though? Was it to protect the favourite maybe, to not remind people that he was the one who started the conversation (most viewers probably wouldn't re-watch it)?


Trust me, its not from his drug use, its his self entitled ego that doesn't allow him to see he could be wrong. Which probably spurs from somewhere in his religion - once again, trust me on this one, I live in texas, unfortunately surrounded by "bible bashers" who act in almost the exact manner.

Side note: When I heard him being called a bible basher, I lol'd, because here in the states if you call someone a bible basher, it means they don't believe in the bible and literally bash what it says. Probably my fave part of BBUK is listening to the different slang :)

[georgehudson]

"Big Brother is wrong, Big Brothers lying to you" Yer **** off Stephen !
TEAM NICOLA.