Fat People

[Crimson Dynamo]

99.9% eat too much and do not move enough.


a diet will not help, they need to stop eating so much and move.

why will they not learn?

should we start to fine them?

[farhad]

am i fat

[Twilight]

FYI
i'm on a diet and its working without me having to run 500 miles kk..

[NettoSuperstar!]

fat people cant stop eating even if theyre going to die, what makes you think fining will work?

[Jack_]

:joker: :joker:

[Crimson Dynamo]

fat people cant stop eating even if theyre going to die, what makes you think fining will work?

it would be a good money spinner and we could use the money to buy weapons and salt and the like

[Crimson Dynamo]

FYI
i'm on a diet and its working without me having to run 500 miles kk..

and when you stop the diet and the abnormal eating pattern and start back to your normal eating pattern?

[Crimson Dynamo]

am i fat

perhaps, i would take that camera back to comet

[NettoSuperstar!]

ahh rite a solution to the economic crisis...Labour should bang it on the manifesto quick smart! lol

[Twilight]

and when you stop the diet and the abnormal eating pattern and start back to your normal eating pattern?

Nope i'm not daft, i won't let it.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Nope i'm not daft, i won't let it.


:laugh2:

[Twilight]

:laugh2:

What???

[_Seth]

FYI
i'm on a diet and its working without me having to run 500 miles kk..

What diet is that? :D

[Twilight]

What diet is that? :D

I just count calories, only have 1600 a day.

[Crimson Dynamo]

I just count calories, only have 1600 a day.

slaps head with hand


this, my friends, is exhibit 1

[NettoSuperstar!]

slaps head with hand


this, my friends, is exhibit 1

Ahh leave Twilight alone shes only a bairn! Good luck Twilight...dont listen to the bogie man! Your doing well keep it up

[Twilight]

slaps head with hand


this, my friends, is exhibit 1

ok you have lost me?

[BB_Eye]

What else do you suggest? Compulsory liposuction and using the extracted fat to insulate people's houses?

[Twilight]

Ahh leave Twilight alone shes only a bairn! Good luck Twilight...dont listen to the bogie man! Your doing well keep it up

LOL thanks;)

[NettoSuperstar!]

What else do you suggest? Compulsory liposuction and using the extracted fat to insulate people's houses?

ahhh now wer're on a roll here... (pardon the pun) Saving the environment too!

[Crimson Dynamo]

LOL thanks;)

Twilight what you need to do is change for good your eating habits. Increase fresh food intake. Shop at the edges of supermarkets.

Only eat at mealtimes and increase you exercise. This way you can continue to live in a normal way and stop focussing on food.

do you eat sweets and do you eat between meals?

[Twilight]

do you eat sweets and do you eat between meals?

Yes because if i didn't i would want to eat them so much that, one day i would just think **** it and eat all i wanted, so if i eat one sweet everyday,
i don't want them has much.
btw fyi i have lost 2 stone so far.

[NettoSuperstar!]

Yes because if i didn't i would want to eat them so much that, one day i would just think **** it and eat all i wanted, so if i eat one sweet everyday,
i don't want them has much.
btw fyi i have lost 2 stone so far.

Everything in moderation! See shes got it

[Crimson Dynamo]

Yes because if i didn't i would want to eat them so much that, one day i would just think **** it and eat all i wanted, so if i eat one sweet everyday,
i don't want them has much.
btw fyi i have lost 2 stone so far.

do you eat take aways?

[Twilight]

do you eat take aways?

Once a every 2 month

[Crimson Dynamo]

Once a every 2 month

drink

exercise

fresh fruit and veg

?

[MarkWaldorf]

Twilight, I wouldn't even continue to answer his questions cause he's just going to mock it more.
Well done on the diet though! :D

[Twilight]

Lol i'm not going to:P and thank you:)

[xDramatick]

My boyfriend often swims and used to go to the Gym a lot, and he usually ate well too, but his weight gain is generally down to a slow metabolism (+his lack of resistence to a beer lol).

He's gone on a major diet for the new year though, eating extremely healthily, limiting himself to one meal/takeaway a month and currently on an abstinence to alcohol.

[ButterflyGirl]

:rolleyes:

[MissKittyFantastico]

Everything in moderation
Exercise regularly

That's really all there is to it, unless you have a medical reason why you hold onto or find it hard to lose weight.

[elliebrew]

What do you eat in a normal day Trumpet, how much excersise do you do and what do you way....im curious

[arista]

fat people cant stop eating even if theyre going to die, what makes you think fining will work?


Must think they can cut back on the Dumplings
and pay the Fine.


Do The Crime - Over Eating

Pay the Flipping Fine.

[arista]

Everything in moderation
Exercise regularly

That's really all there is to it, unless you have a medical reason why you hold onto or find it hard to lose weight.



More Hot Sex
gets you Slim.

[elliebrew]

Because i guarantee i eat better quality healthy super foods such as leafy green veg. I dont eat carbs or wheat, i dont drink alcohol oftn and i take prob more execise than most of you but im still a bit podgy.

Thats to do with metabolism, genes and natural body shape.

Leathertrumpet is probably naturally thin and can eat n drink what they like.

Prob just luck on behalf of his/her gene pool

[MissKittyFantastico]

More Hot Sex
gets you Slim.

That sex thread has brought out a whole other side to you! :laugh:

[cupid stunt]

hate when fat ****ers try blame there glands n that wot a load of bollox

[Jack_]

hate when fat ****ers try blame there glands n that wot a load of bollox

:joker:

LOL @ your username. Clever.

[NettoSuperstar!]

:joker:

LOL @ your username. Clever.

He/she got it from the late Kenny Everett RIP

[NettoSuperstar!]

Must think they can cut back on the Dumplings
and pay the Fine.


Do The Crime - Over Eating

Pay the Flipping Fine.

haha:joker:

[eye sea]

I have a fat friend and I have a thin friend.

The thin friend is 27 years old, can eat and drink as much as he likes yet he is just 11 stone and 6 feet tall. He doesn't work (although he's looking), and 'hardly moves about.'

One day we were in the pub with him and he drank 12 pints of beer and had a double order of fish and chips; on the way home, he went for a 14" pizza special.

The fat friend is very active, I never see him eat!! He swims and plays rugby. He also doesn't drink alcohol. At 33, he's 5 feet 10 and 19 stone.

He can't work it out either!!

[lily.]

LT.. quit interrogating Twilight ffs... she's 13 years old.

Twilight - well done on the weight loss kiddo.. you are doing well.. and you're doing it sensibly.. without crash-dieting. Don't pay any attention to LT.. he's being *****.. (and don't deny it LT.. cuz you know you are! lol)

Most fat people are fat due to lifestyle. I lost a bit of weight last year, and want to lose some more this year. I changed my lifestyle, exercised more.. and ate healthier.. got an average of a pound a week loss.. that way it stays off, and you don't feel starved.

I don't think people should be punished for being fat, even if they don't do eff-all about it. I don't think people should be punished for smoking or drinking alcohol. This is not effing Saudi Arabia. People can live their lives the way they want to. I don't really give a flying *****.

The only negative thing I have to say about fat people is this... Unless there is a genuine medical reason for you being overweight, you shouldn't blame it on anything else but your own actions.

[arista]

Yes Good Point
lili.

At 13 ,
no Bully should be done on her.


I agree LT - needs to know who he is talking to.

[ILoveTRW]

99.9% eat too much and do not move enough.

nar 100% eat too much and do not move enough FACT

[Captain.Remy]

I was an obese boy back in the day from 8 to 12. I couldn't help it, it was in the genes, some people will be bigger than the rest, and furthermore, I was playing rugby so it didn't help with the bone structure.
I took a drastic diet because I had to, I couldn't stand the bullies anymore and the look in my parents' eyes. I went to the hospital twice because I was declared as "Obscene obesity" and then I lost 20 kilos (about 44lb if I'm right ?).
I kept going with rugby all this time but it was harder you know, to run and all these things but at the end of the day, it helped me more than anything.

The biggest lesson I got from this, is that I've learnt to be confident and strong, to tell people to **** off right in the eyes. I had my vengeance, most of me bullies are now chavs and are doing **** studies while I have class, dignity and I've been doing great since.
I may seem overconfident and I probably have a damn big ego but I learnt to love myself. I will never be skinny and I don't want to. I'm big and muscly but not too much because I like to see myself as a teddy bear. And girls love teddy bears. Basically, I have a rugbyman type of body. You just have to deal with the way you look and try to match the outside with the inside. Some people I know lost so much weight and looked skinny...but got fatter immediately because being skinny doesn't match their inside.

So Twilight, keep going and **** the bastards. Trust me, it will get you anywhere you want to.

[Stacey.]

:joker:
lol, i always think this tbh!
fat people are so annoying, they should lose weight and excerise more,,
especially,Whenn you get those ones that complain about their weight :rolleyes:
when they don`t even try to do anything about it!!!
:mad: ughhh

Meself, im a bit under average! so Im happy :D haha

[Captain.Remy]

fat people are so annoying, they should lose weight and excerise more,,


And who the hell are you to tell people what they should and shouldn't do ? No one. Thanks.

[Vicky.]

Lots of people in my family dating from years back are/were overweight....but the ones I knew ate really healthy food and excercised loads, I have to work really hard to keep my weight down. Helps having a dog to walk all the time though :)

On the other hand, my mother is sooo skinny, but lives on pizza and takeaways...

So I believe there is an element of 'unlucky' genes to it.

[Stacey.]

And who the hell are you to tell people what they should and shouldn't do ? No one. Thanks.

what Im saying, is when fat people complain, saying:
'oh, i really need to lose weight',
and they dont even put any effort into it,,
Its not going to happen itself, is it?! :joker:
lol

[Vicky.]

what Im saying, is when fat people complain, saying:
'oh, i really need to lose weight',
and they dont even put any effort into it,,


Yeah, every overweight person is the same right? :rolleyes:

People try for years to lose weight and it doesnt happen, short of stopping eating altogether, what else can you do if excercising/healthy eating doesnt work?

[Captain.Remy]

what Im saying, is when fat people complain, saying:
'oh, i really need to lose weight',
and they dont even put any effort into it,,
Its not going to happen itself, is it?! :joker:
lol

It's not but sometimes the envy of losing weight doesn't take over the fact of losing weight because it's a vicious circle. I know that because I went through it. You know you need to but you can't get anywhere.
And some people are proud to be plus-size to be honest. I admire these people for daring to screw what people think of them in the street.

[Stacey.]

Yeah, every overweight person is the same right? :rolleyes:

People try for years to lose weight and it doesnt happen, short of stopping eating altogether, what else can you do if excercising/healthy eating doesnt work?

no, im not saying everyone is like that, But lots of people i know, they do :joker:
no,Its not Your fault if its just like, in your family, but without trying ,you wont get anywhere :hugesmile:

[Stacey.]

It's not but sometimes the envy of losing weight doesn't take over the fact of losing weight because it's a vicious circle. I know that because I went through it. You know you need to but you can't get anywhere.
And some people are proud to be plus-size to be honest. I admire these people for daring to screw what people think of them in the street.

well, it was just my opinion :)
tbh, I Dont really find It pleasant ,seeing fat people in the street!
in lots of cases,people just need to either: cut down on food
: or eat more healthily :)

[Braden]

Fat people are cool :thumbs:

[InOne]

well, it was just my opinion :)
tbh, I Dont really find It pleasant ,seeing fat people in the street!
in lots of cases,people just need to either: cut down on food
: or eat more healthily :)

That is like saying I don't find it plesant seeing black people on the street. Good god Courtney, you need to watch what you type

[MissKittyFantastico]

tbh, I Dont really find It pleasant ,seeing fat people in the street!


I honestly can't believe you just came out and said that.

[Stacey.]

That is like saying I don't find it plesant seeing black people on the street. Good god Courtney, you need to watch what you type

*Stacey
:nono:

um, no I`m not racist!
but Fat people sweating, and they smell too :laugh:
no offence, Im just saying what i think,
also it draws attention to them

[Stacey.]

I honestly can't believe you just came out and said that.

my opinion :spin:

[InOne]

*Stacey
:nono:

um, no I`m not racist!
but Fat people sweating, and they smell too :laugh:
no offence, Im just saying what i think,
also it draws attention to them

That does cause offence though!!! How do you know? Jesus man!!!

[MissKittyFantastico]

So all fat people are sweaty and smelly according to Stacey?

I really have seen it all now.

[Stephanie]

i'm fat and proud :D

(lmfao i'm not proud but i feel like saying it)

[Jack_]

That is like saying I don't find it plesant seeing black people on the street. Good god Courtney, you need to watch what you type

This.

[Stacey.]

guys, Im just saying what i think, like!
its better for your health too, :)
just all round, it is better to be your average size.

[Vicky.]

Wow, some very ignorant people on here isnt there :rolleyes:

[InOne]

Wow, some very ignorant people on here isnt there :rolleyes:

I remember you had that pic when I first joined lol looking cool

[Vicky.]

I remember you had that pic when I first joined lol looking cool

Yeah, one of the rare photos where I actually look ok :D

[InOne]

Yeah, one of the rare photos where I actually look ok :D

I'm sure you always look cool!

[Captain.Remy]

my opinion :spin:

Oh right so being honest is an excuse for being nasty, ignorant and clueless ? Well done, I guess Mum and Dad are so proud of their racist daughter. And yes, being racist is not about black people, it's about all the rest too. Jesus...

[InOne]

Courtney is the future generation guys, be worried.

[Stacey.]

Oh right so being honest is an excuse for being nasty, ignorant and clueless ? Well done, I guess Mum and Dad are so proud of their racist daughter. And yes, being racist is not about black people, it's about all the rest too. Jesus...

im not racist!!!
And my opinions are what they are, No one can change that :spin:
and yeah, i dont care what people think,
Im honest :) and i think thats good,No matter what.

[Captain.Remy]

im not racist!!!
And my opinions are what they are, No one can change that :spin:
and yeah, i dont care what people think,
Im honest :) and i think thats good,No matter what.

Yes you clearly are towards fat people. Making assumptions they're all the same. It's like saying "Black people are all thief, rapists and murders, but it's just my opinion" That is racist my dear.
So being honest is not an excuse, you'll have to find something else.

[Jack_]

im not racist!!!
And my opinions are what they are, No one can change that :spin:
and yeah, i dont care what people think,
Im honest :) and i think thats good,No matter what.

There's a time and a place to be honest though, Stacey, that's one thing you have to learn...

[Stacey.]

Yes you clearly are towards fat people. Making assumptions they're all the same. It's like saying "Black people are all thief, rapists and murders, but it's just my opinion" That is racist my dear.
So being honest is not an excuse, you'll have to find something else.

Honesty is the best policy :)
and i believe in that

[InOne]

It's not honest, it's cruel.

[Stacey.]

There's a time and a place to be honest though, Stacey, that's one thing you have to learn...

well, sorry guys if you Dont likee my honesty :shrug:
but that is Something I cant change about meself. its just the way i am :)

[Captain.Remy]

Honesty is the best policy :)
and i believe in that

Oh well, you're only 14 so I don't expect you to understand anything intellectually deeper than Gossip Girl and Jedward.
You'll understand as you grow up.

[*mazedsalv**]

I have a feeling i will get very fat soon. I eat like a beast because i know i can and i have a super fast immune system... and it will come back to bite me in the arse!!

So in a few years i would admit to it being because i thought i would never put the weight out, but as you get older, and hit your 20s, your likely to pile the pounds on.

[Stacey.]

Oh well, you're only 14 so I don't expect you to understand anything intellectually deeper than Gossip Girl and Jedward.
You'll understand as you grow up.

why are you bringing Jedward into this? :conf:
because of me age?!
:rolleyes:
and fyi, Theyy are doing very well :thumbs:

[setanta]

I have a feeling i will get very fat soon. I eat like a beast because i know i can and i have a super fast immune system... and it will come back to bite me in the arse!!

So in a few years i would admit to it being because i thought i would never put the weight out, but as you get older, and hit your 20s, your likely to pile the pounds on.

It starts at about 21 or 22. That's when you have to be more careful about your eating and general living habits cuz yes, it does have a tendency to bite you in the arse.

[Captain.Remy]

why are you bringing Jedward into this? :conf:
because of me age?!
:rolleyes:
and fyi, Theyy are doing very well :thumbs:

You know exactly what I meant. :wink:
Like InOne said, it's not honest, it's cruel. But I'll leave you to that, you'll understand deeper things one day.

[Stacey.]

You know exactly what I meant. :wink:
Like InOne said, it's not honest, it's cruel. But I'll leave you to that, you'll understand deeper things one day.

If you think its cruel, thats up to you,
In my opinion though, its just pure honesty:hugesmile:

[*mazedsalv**]

It starts at about 21 or 22. That's when you have to be more careful about your eating and general living habits cuz yes, it does have a tendency to bite you in the arse.

Im 8 stone, most of my mates are about 9-10 stone and are the same age as me (17). I WANT to put on weight, but I cant, not at the moment, and I dont get why. But if i was to put on weight i would want it to be slowly over the next 2 years. I dont want it to bite me in the arse, get up one morning and be considered a slob.:( I dont even exercise much, yes I walk to the station everyday (about 20 mins walk) thats it though.

If i did football/rugby like my friends, i would weigh even less.

[InOne]

If you think its cruel, thats up to you,
In my opinion though, its just pure honesty:hugesmile:

It's not honest though is it, saying you don't like fat people walking down the street? I mean who in their right mind says that?

[setanta]

Im 8 stone, most of my mates are about 9-10 stone and are the same age as me (17). I WANT to put on weight, but I cant, not at the moment, and I dont get why. But if i was to put on weight i would want it to be slowly over the next 2 years. I dont want it to bite me in the arse, get up one morning and be considered a slob.:( I dont even exercise much, yes I walk to the station everyday (about 20 mins walk) thats it though.

If i did football/rugby like my friends, i would weigh even less.

Well you can always really judge it from your parents and their siblings. What weight are they? It's usually a good indication as to how you'll fare.

[GhettoSuperstar]

Firstly, well done to Twilight, keep it up girl!

And secondly, I don't like to criticise larger people because I don't like when people tell me to eat more or interrogate me for being teeny. It's their body, they can do what they like - but just know that there isn't always going to be a helping hand.

[Captain.Remy]

Im 8 stone, most of my mates are about 9-10 stone and are the same age as me (17). I WANT to put on weight, but I cant, not at the moment, and I dont get why. But if i was to put on weight i would want it to be slowly over the next 2 years. I dont want it to bite me in the arse, get up one morning and be considered a slob.:( I dont even exercise much, yes I walk to the station everyday (about 20 mins walk) thats it though.

If i did football/rugby like my friends, i would weigh even less.

Football yes, Rugby definitely not. You would have gained muscular weight, not fat tho.

[Tom]

Fat people repulse me but then I've always been athletic

[eye sea]

And who the hell are you to tell people what they should and shouldn't do ? No one. Thanks.

Seconded. As my story testifies, you can be fat without gorging yourself, and you can be slim whilst pigging yourself out.

[InOne]

Fat people repulse me but then I've always been athletic

Repulse you? Bit strong isn't it??

[andyman]

Many studies on this have been done, Horizon had a good program about this subject last week.. Might be on iPlayer.

[Tom]

Repulse you? Bit strong isn't it??

No, just why would you let yourself get fat? Why don't people just look after themselves and watch what they eat? Its so easy to not get fat, and then they moan when they're fat anyway as though its someone elses fault

[andyman]

Repulse you? Bit strong isn't it??True..

[Stacey.]

No, just why would you let yourself get fat? Why don't people just look after themselves and watch what they eat? Its so easy to not get fat, and then they moan when they're fat anyway as though its someone elses fault

:thumbs: quite true

[andyman]

No, just why would you let yourself get fat? Why don't people just look after themselves and watch what they eat? Its so easy to not get fat, and then they moan when they're fat anyway as though its someone elses faultNot 100% true for all overweight people.. And mice.

[Tom]

Not 100% true for all overweight people.. And mice.

How did they get overweight in the first place?

[Captain.Remy]

No, just why would you let yourself get fat? Why don't people just look after themselves and watch what they eat? Its so easy to not get fat, and then they moan when they're fat anyway as though its someone elses fault

Because of psychological issues and some genes effect ? You do not become obese because you want to, you become obese without realizing you are. It's a body image issue. Food is the only place you feel good. It's a vicious circle.

[Tom]

Because of psychological issues and some genes effect ? You do not become obese because you want to, you become obese without realizing you are. It's a body image issue. Food is the only place you feel good. It's a vicious circle.

The 'fat gene' only makes you vulnerable to be overweight, it doesn't mean you will be overweight so obviously a good balance is needed there. As for psychological issues, well fair enough but if you don't want to be obese then you'll replace the 'addiction' with another one.

[Captain.Remy]

The 'fat gene' only makes you vulnerable to be overweight, it doesn't mean you will be overweight so obviously a good balance is needed there. As for psychological issues, well fair enough but if you don't want to be obese then you'll replace the 'addiction' with another one.

But generally you don't know you have the "fat" gene until you are fat and a doctor tells you you have it otherwise of course you need a good balance.
Nobody wants to be obese, it's ridiculous. Like I said, it's an addiction like another, you can't just replace it because you want to. It's all very complicated in your mind but simple at the same time.

[Tom]

But generally you don't know you have the "fat" gene until you are fat and a doctor tells you you have it otherwise of course you need a good balance.
Nobody wants to be obese, it's ridiculous. Like I said, it's an addiction like another, you can't just replace it because you want to. It's all very complicated in your mind but simple at the same time.

50% of people carry the fat gene, why isn't half of the country obese? Go figure.

[andyman]

How did they get overweight in the first place?Look into it, many studies have been done over 40 years.
Some do eat too much of the wrong food while being inactive, but its not the same for all.. Same with some slim people that can't gain weight while other could easy put weight on if they wanted..
Go seek the facts because sometimes that thought in your head is not always right..

I'm hungeeee :(

[Captain.Remy]

50% of people carry the fat gene, why isn't half of the country obese? Go figure.

I said "Generally" which means either people figure out themselves or a doctor tells them before, or it's too late. And a lot of people are overweight you know.

I'm past all of this really as you could have read, which means this issue is close to me so I'd better stay out of it lmao

[Tom]

Look into it, many studies have been done over 40 years.
Some do eat too much of the wrong food while being inactive, but its not the same for all.. Same with some slim people that can't gain weight while other could easy put weight on if they wanted..
Go seek the facts because sometimes that thought in your head is not always right..

I don't think people can't just not lose weight, I think thats another psychological issue (ie being too lazy or no will power but not realising it) and probably the fault of parents for over feeding them and not making them do exercise. If you're fat as a kid then the chances are its your parents fault.

[Tom]

I said "Generally" which means either people figure out themselves or a doctor tells them before, or it's too late. And a lot of people are overweight you know.

I'm past all of this really as you could have read, which means this issue is close to me so I'd better stay out of it lmao

40% of adults in the UK are overweight with half of them being obese. I don't think being overweight is that big a problem, I think its when you hit obesity that its a problem. If some people can avoid being overweight/obese with the fat gene then I don't think there is any excuse for most other people.

[*mazedsalv**]

Well you can always really judge it from your parents and their siblings. What weight are they? It's usually a good indication as to how you'll fare.

When my Dad was my age he was 10 stone, he is now 14 stone. So he is already 2 stone ahead of me. My Mum was quite thin for her age but now she is about 64kg (something like 9.5-10 stone right now).
My sister is 20 years old and she is about 7.5 stone, so quite light too.

I wanted to go my Dads way, but looks like im coming more from my Mums side.

However, heightwise im following my Dad, he is quite short and so am I... he's probably 5'9, Im about 5'6.

[Captain.Remy]

40% of adults in the UK are overweight with half of them being obese. I don't think being overweight is that big a problem, I think its when you hit obesity that its a problem. If some people can avoid being overweight/obese with the fat gene then I don't think there is any excuse for most other people.

Of course there is an excuse Tom. I'm not going to reveal all my personal issues there who put me in that situation back in the day but there are excuses such as depression, the loss of someone, being very very down, body image issues etc... Some people will fall into drugs, some into alcoholism, etc... and some into food. I've got the fat gene, I didn't control it therefore couldn't avoid being obese, does that make it up for the issues I had ? Of course not. I didn't get fat because I wanted to, I got fat because I got addicted and it made me feel good (4 years) then you realize it does not anymore, the reverse is happening.

I'm not saying all obese people have psychological issues because some of them are lazy and you're right but obesity is a disease and has been declared one of the biggest disease of the decade along with cancer and AIDS.

[*mazedsalv**]

And to Tom's comments.

A large % of people are fat because it runs in the family. I mean if a 20 stone woman gives birth to you, its about 70% likely or so, that you will be quite big for a small age and then be obese when your older.

However, some people do get themselves fat.
I dont like how they do that and then moan.

BUT, I like people who admit that they like being fat and dont have a problem with it. Its their life and if their happy the way they weigh, fair enough.

[Tom]

Of course there is an excuse Tom. I'm not going to reveal all my personal issues there who put me in that situation back in the day but there are excuses such as depression, the loss of someone, being very very down, body image issues etc... Some people will fall into drugs, some into alcoholism, etc... and some into food. I've got the fat gene, I didn't control it therefore couldn't avoid being obese, does that make it up for the issues I had ? Of course not. I didn't get fat because I wanted to, I got fat because I got addicted and it made me feel good (4 years) then you realize it does not anymore, the reverse is happening.

I'm not saying all obese people have psychological issues because some of them are lazy and you're right but obesity is a disease and has been declared one of the biggest disease of the decade along with cancer and AIDS.

If you don't want to be fat you'll do something about it no matter how addicted you are.

[Captain.Remy]

If you don't want to be fat you'll do something about it no matter how addicted you are.

That's when you realize you are fat. You are that happy to eat that you don't even realize what is going on but the day people will mock you, you realize something is wrong so you eat more to forget about it. But one day, you somehow realize enough is enough and it's time to put it to an end. Then begins the diet.

What I'm trying to tell you is that, you don't just decide not to be fat anylonger, it doesn't work like that, you're stuck in the middle of something you don't control anymore. I'm only about people who have food addiction related to personal issues, not people who just eat for the sake of eating.
See, I still played rugby while I was obese but it didn't help much.

[Tom]

That's when you realize you are fat. You are that happy to eat that you don't even realize what is going on but the day people will mock you, you realize something is wrong so you eat more to forget about it. But one day, you somehow realize enough is enough and it's time to put it to an end. Then begins the diet.

What I'm trying to tell you is that, you don't just decide not to be fat anylonger, it doesn't work like that, you're stuck in the middle of something you don't control anymore. I'm only about people who have food addiction related to personal issues, not people who just eat for the sake of eating.
See, I still played rugby while I was obese but it didn't help much.

But if you don't realise that you're fat, when you do realise it and thats when you start the diet, then thats you doing something about it because you no longer want to be fat. You can decide, you can just put a stop to it and go on a diet. It might not be that simple for some people I understand but if you want it that badly you will do it.

[andyman]

I don't think people can't just not lose weight, I think thats another psychological issue (ie being too lazy or no will power but not realising it) and probably the fault of parents for over feeding them and not making them do exercise. If you're fat as a kid then the chances are its your parents fault.Not always psychological for some but it can play a part. We have known this for some time with the fat animal study and how fat cells work with the brain, fat cells are not the dumb cells we once thought.. Plus in Germany a study was done with one young man that had to eat, always wanted food, has links with the animal study..

The science behind all this is what drug companies are pumping millions into to find that wonder pill, and it helps us understand more about the human body and the brain..

[James]

Our genes play a big part in deciding our weight. You see in ancient times our ancestors had to scavenge for any food they could get. Having a strong appetite is probably something that evolved because it was useful for our survival in those days.

Forward to modern times, and we live in a world (at least in the West anyway) where food is plentiful. However we still have genes which tell us to eat at every opportunity. Hence some people eat too much.

[setanta]

Look into it, many studies have been done over 40 years.
Some do eat too much of the wrong food while being inactive, but its not the same for all.. Same with some slim people that can't gain weight while other could easy put weight on if they wanted..
Go seek the facts because sometimes that thought in your head is not always right..

I'm hungeeee :(

No wonder you're hungry with those pics of food staring up at you! That's just teasing yourself.

[setanta]

Our genes play a big part in deciding our weight. You see in ancient times our ancestors had to scavenge for any food they could get. Having a strong appetite is probably something that evolved because it was useful for our survival in those days.

Forward to modern times, and we live in a world (at least in the West anyway) where food is plentiful. However we still have genes which tell us to eat at every opportunity. Hence some people eat too much.

I totally agree. And then we have access to mass produced, low grade food products that are extremely high in saturated fat which, according to what my cousin once told me, the body never realises when it's had enough of and so we continue to gorge. I can't relate to you what she said verbatim, but it was something along those lines. The brain doesn't know when it's full of that kind of fat.

[Captain.Remy]

But if you don't realise that you're fat, when you do realise it and thats when you start the diet, then thats you doing something about it because you no longer want to be fat. You can decide, you can just put a stop to it and go on a diet. It might not be that simple for some people I understand but if you want it that badly you will do it.

You can put a stop at it when it's already way too late and when you're physically damaged by what's going on around. I remember how it happened for me, it was very emotional and my Dad told me "Son, if you want people to change the way they see you, give them something to be jealous about". It's the best advice I've ever been given and that's what made me go for a diet and become who I am today.
Unfortunately, some people don't ever get that kind of advice or "mental shock" to put an end to it. You just don't wake up and say "Oh wait, let's get a diet". You have to want it, otherwise you'll never get it.
You're right on one point, if you want it badly, you'll do it but you have to want it and to keep it up. That's the hardest part.

[elliebrew]

Tom i'm 24 years old and am prob healthier and more active than you but I'm porgy so don't you dare say it's coz were lazy. You are just lucky that ure natural body shape is slim so don't dare look down your nose at me

[andyman]

Tom i'm 24 years old and am prob healthier and more active than you but I'm porgy so don't you dare say it's coz were lazy. You are just lucky that ure natural body shape is slim so don't dare look down your nose at meTom spends all his money on drugs though. :(

[InOne]

Tom i'm 24 years old and am prob healthier and more active than you but I'm porgy so don't you dare say it's coz were lazy. You are just lucky that ure natural body shape is slim so don't dare look down your nose at me

Just be yourself elliebrew :)

[Tom]

Tom i'm 24 years old and am prob healthier and more active than you but I'm porgy so don't you dare say it's coz were lazy. You are just lucky that ure natural body shape is slim so don't dare look down your nose at me

If you were as active as I am then you probably wouldn't be 'porgy' (whatever that means I'm just assuming you mean chubby or fat although from pics you've posted before IIRC you're nothing of the sort anyway). And I'm not looking down my nose. I also think its possible to be fat and healthy, just not obese and healthy ...

Tom spends all his money on drugs though. :(

Yes this is true, you name it I'm on it ...

[ButterflyGirl]

Could say the same about skinny people ,girls starving themselves to be like Cheryl Cole etc and it isn't healthy to be like that and doesn't always look attractive...

[andyman]

Half Ton Dad

1:20am - 2:20am, More 4.


Kenneth Brumley, 40, weighed 73 stone when he prepared for a do-or-die operation.
This is the story of a father, his family and his country, America, with 15 million morbidly obese people.

[spitfire]

I do have a wee chuckle when i see fat people stuffing McDonalds down their gobs.

[Tom]

I do have a wee chuckle when i see fat people stuffing McDonalds down their gobs.

and they order a DIET coke

[30stone]

and they order a DIET coke

LOL that is so comedy when i done work experience in pizza hut, "yeah ill have an extra large pepperoni with extra cheese, some garlic bread with cheese and a diet coke.. gotta stay healthy..

what? LOL

[30stone]

Could say the same about skinny people ,girls starving themselves to be like Cheryl Cole etc and it isn't healthy to be like that and doesn't always look attractive...

Hate people constantly brining that into debates like this, always is..


Anyway, id like to spend the day being fat, just to see what its like see what its like.

I eat healthy and exercise 5 - 6 times a week.. and ive never had any problem with my weight (getting fat) just realised i always have a problem with my weight (losing it), ate everything over christmas just everything was full for 4 straight days and i dropped 4 lbs LOL

[spitfire]

I do have a wee chuckle when i see fat people stuffing McDonalds down their gobs.
Having said that,i do feel sorry for their kids in pushchairs,who are also shoving Burger and chips down their throats.

[30stone]

Having said that,i do feel sorry for their kids in pushchairs,who are also shoving Burger and chips down their throats.

For me thats a bigger thing than this "fat gene"

How parents feed their children really depends on how they grow up, so many people overfeed their kids, so many chubbies nowadays.

[spitfire]

LOL that is so comedy when i done work experience in pizza hut, "yeah ill have an extra large pepperoni with extra cheese, some garlic bread with cheese and a diet coke.. gotta stay healthy..

what? LOL
I'll have a Kebab,please.Extra salad as i'm on a diet.

[spitfire]

For me thats a bigger thing than this "fat gene"

How parents feed their children really depends on how they grow up, so many people overfeed their kids, so many chubbies nowadays.
Many moons ago when i was a youngster,fast food/take aways was an absolute treat.Birthdays,special occasions etc.Sadly,it seems to be the norm now.

[30stone]

LOL.
Silly eh.

I have eaten well for 3 and a half years.
And occasionally for about 3 months go ultra strict diet.

Was told when dieting to eat 1 cheat meal a week or every 2 weeks lol (for gaining weight) and have to eat over 1500 calories in that one meal.

[andyman]

Some people can never be hugely fat no matter how hard they try, a study was done giving slim men upto 10,000 calories per day.. Many put on 20pounds and could not gain any more weight..

Horizon on BBC4 had a good program about this and other studies..

[andyman]

Half Ton Dad now on More4, then its Half Ton Man.. True!

[FelixO]

fat ******s lol

i used to be a lardyboy, and hate fat people that moan about it, its simple to do something about it and no exscuse really

[andyman]

Felix, do you like football? If so which club do you support?

[Captain.Remy]

I eat healthy and exercise 5 - 6 times a week.. and ive never had any problem with my weight (getting fat) just realised i always have a problem with my weight (losing it), ate everything over christmas just everything was full for 4 straight days and i dropped 4 lbs LOL

I'm like that too. I've never had any problem with my weight since I lost 20 kilos. Now I take care of it, exercising, still doing rugby, did some handball, eating healthy (let's say a good balance between everything). :hugesmile:

[Dr.Gonzo]

I'm one of those lucky bastards that can eat your house and still be slim - it drives my missus crazy.

[NettoSuperstar!]

Yer in all seriousness, some people are fat because they have deep psychological issues, possibly been abused and some through health problems/genes etc...bit harsh too judge

[Crimson Dynamo]

there were no fat people in the concentration camps...

no fat people in areas of famine

no metabolism issues there

[NettoSuperstar!]

there were no fat people in the concentration camps...

no fat people in areas of famine

no metabolism issues there

Oh I wonder why that was/is! lol

[Captain.Remy]

there were no fat people in the concentration camps...

no fat people in areas of famine

no metabolism issues there

Are you serious ? No, really ?

[eye sea]

Our genes play a big part in deciding our weight. You see in ancient times our ancestors had to scavenge for any food they could get. Having a strong appetite is probably something that evolved because it was useful for our survival in those days.

Forward to modern times, and we live in a world (at least in the West anyway) where food is plentiful. However we still have genes which tell us to eat at every opportunity. Hence some people eat too much.

Partly right, but it isn't all to do with what we eat.

An average, moderately active 19 year old can consume 5,000 calories per day, yet someone in their mid 30s on 2,500 calories per day can still gain substantial weight.

Look at the gangly teenagers walking the street, thin as poles, their jeans hanging down their butt cheeks. That after consuming numerous pizzas, chips and fizzy pop all day.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Oh I wonder why that was/is! lol

i say that for all the "fat" people who are fat because of "metabolism" "big bones" "just the way I am" etc

[Dr.Gonzo]

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[Crimson Dynamo]

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[NettoSuperstar!]

i say that for all the "fat" people who are fat because of "metabolism" "big bones" "just the way I am" etc

Well they are eating obviously!...point is I can eat the same as someone else and they may put on more weight than me because of metabolism etc

[Crimson Dynamo]

Well they are eating obviously!...point is I can eat the same as someone else and they may put on more weight than me because of metabolism etc

but it is not an excuse for being fat as some seem to be indicating.

[Crimson Dynamo]

For me thats a bigger thing than this "fat gene"

How parents feed their children really depends on how they grow up, so many people overfeed their kids, so many chubbies nowadays.

just look at fat parents


they have fat kids


and should be fined

[lily.]

LT - sometimes I think you are controversial just for the sake of being controversial... other times I think you really do look at the world in an unusual way.. I can't decide which it is..

[Twilight]

Whoa people are still talking about this:P

[lily.]

Yeah, LT is on a mission to make us all into Cheryl Cole.. lol

[NettoSuperstar!]

LT - sometimes I think you are controversial just for the sake of being controversial... other times I think you really do look at the world in an unusual way.. I can't decide which it is..

Yah me too hes a slippery fish that one

[Marc]

FYI
i'm on a diet and its working without me having to run 500 miles kk..

your young though. your supposed to lose weight when you grow up.

[lily.]

He's up there with arista on the.. "fuctifican figure you out" scale..

[NettoSuperstar!]

just look at fat parents


they have fat kids


and should be fined

Yeh but how can a kid who's been bought up that way be to blame, maybe the parents parents were the same ad infinitum...listen I support this woman, shes obese well over 20 stone, some of you would take the piss, call her lazy, stop eating simple! ...and Ive been guilty of saying them very same things I hold my hands up! But she was abused for most of her childhood by her mother father and their friends...she dont drink, smoke anything else, she eats and she cuts herself.to deal with the way she feels...do you think she really wants to be like that, or hasnt tried not to be like that? Its not a simple matter and I think deep down you know that really

[30stone]

I do think the vast majority of fat people are just.

Fed to much as a child,
Or have a job/no job so dont exercise and grow up just eating out of boredom.

[ButterflyGirl]

It depends on height too , some people can put put on a fair bit of weight and if their tall they still look slim.

[NettoSuperstar!]

your young though. your supposed to lose weight when you grow up.

Theres nowt wrong with starting a healthier lifestyle at a young age, best time to start, shes doing it sensibly

[Crimson Dynamo]

He's up there with arista on the.. "fuctifican figure you out" scale..

maybe he is Arista?

[Crimson Dynamo]

Yeh but how can a kid who's been bought up that way be to blame, maybe the parents parents were the same ad infinitum...listen I support this woman, shes obese well over 20 stone, some of you would take the piss, call her lazy, stop eating simple! ...and Ive been guilty of saying them very same things I hold my hands up! But she was abused for most of her childhood by her mother father and their friends...she dont drink, smoke anything else, she eats and she cuts herself.to deal with the way she feels...do you think she really wants to be like that, or hasnt tried not to be like that? Its not a simple matter and I think deep down you know that really

who are you on about?

[lily.]

maybe he is Arista?

It's you I was talking about. Are you arista?

[Crimson Dynamo]

It's you I was talking about. Are you arista?

or Sticks, who really is Stu.

[NettoSuperstar!]

who are you on about?

A fat bird I support! Get with the programme...Im saying its not a simple matter of stop eatin yer fat ****ers!

[lily.]

LT has finally lost the plot...


-backs out of this thread-

[Crimson Dynamo]

A fat bird I support! Get with the programme...Im saying its not a simple matter of stop eatin yer fat ****ers!

exceptions are what prove rules

[Crimson Dynamo]

LT has finally lost the plot...


-backs out of this thread-

I have drank many miniatures this week some of which were decidedly ropey and tasted funny. Who knows what was in them

[NettoSuperstar!]

exceptions are what prove rules

You're weird

[Crimson Dynamo]

You're weird

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[Captain.Remy]

but it is not an excuse for being fat as some seem to be indicating.

You just don't have a clue of what you're talking about so drop it. :wink:

[NettoSuperstar!]

Uh oh Mr Hyde has entered the building

[Crimson Dynamo]

You just don't have a clue of what you're talking about so drop it. :wink:


are you suggesting that there are other ways of being fat that do not involve eating above your calorie output per day?

lets hear about them..

[Captain.Remy]

are you suggesting that there are other ways of being fat that do not involve eating above your calorie output per day?

lets hear about them..

You haven't read the thread in its entirety have you ? Otherwise you wouldn't have asked this question. :wink:

[Crimson Dynamo]

You haven't read the thread in its entirety have you ? Otherwise you wouldn't have asked this question. :wink:

you have personal issues which is fine but facts are facts and obesity is nearing our number 1 problem. ignoring it will not make it go away. people eat too much. fact.

[Captain.Remy]

you have personal issues which is fine but facts are facts and obesity is nearing our number 1 problem. ignoring it will not make it go away. people eat too much. fact.

Of course people eat too much and it wasn't about the issues I had.
Like I said, personal issues don't explain everything. And it does become an issue even if you eat too much because people will see you differently, no matter the reason you eat. Obesity is not all black and white.
Sure you eat too much, but you should know the reasons behind it, and there are plenty, not just 'eating for eating'.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Of course people eat too much and it wasn't about the issues I had.
Like I said, personal issues don't explain everything. And it does become an issue even if you eat too much because you just eat too much. Obesity is not all black and white.
Sure you eat too much, but you should know the reasons behind it, and there are plenty, not just 'eating for eating'.

there is a reason behind every action that you take. The MAIN problem is poor food and access to poor food combined with a total lack of nutritional knowledge. Live on an island with just fruit and veg to eat and whatever your issues are you will reduce to your natural body with no excess fat.