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cedkins
17-01-2010, 07:42 PM
On last nights show there was a toast to Kat & heidi where sov said Kat & heidi the fallen soldiers..... How can she compare our fallen soldiers to 2 people that have been evicted on a game show, I find this really disrespectful and insult to our fallen heroes.

becky123
17-01-2010, 07:43 PM
On last nights show there was a toast to Kat & heidi where sov said Kat & heidi the fallen soldiers..... How can she compare our fallen soldiers to 2 people that have been evicted on a game show, I find this really disrespectful and insult to our fallen heroes.

are you joking? Your reading too much into it.

LemonJam
17-01-2010, 07:44 PM
facepalm.

Clockers
17-01-2010, 07:46 PM
are you joking? Your reading too much into it.

The OP was made by a Junior member so only a newb would come up with something so preposterous.

becky123
17-01-2010, 07:47 PM
facepalm.

exactly.

Vicky.
17-01-2010, 07:48 PM
:rolleyes:

CornedBeef
17-01-2010, 07:48 PM
are you ACTUALLY serious?

Zippy
17-01-2010, 07:51 PM
Yeah! Another good reason to kick Lady Chaverly OUT!

LMFAO

cedkins
17-01-2010, 07:53 PM
No I am certainly not joking..... How can anyone compare a game show to the sad loss of anyones son/daughter/husband it's disrespectful

pixee
17-01-2010, 07:53 PM
If they had said "to our fallen soldiers...**** EM!" then i can understand your complaint.

cedkins
17-01-2010, 07:54 PM
I agree get her out I was a fan until she said that

cedkins
17-01-2010, 07:56 PM
He said to Kat and heidi the fallen soldiers not appropriate at a time when so many lives are being lost

Clockers
17-01-2010, 07:56 PM
My first thought when i read the subject was, "was they having a boiled egg and sliced toast (aka soldiers) and that where the comparisons lie."

cedkins
17-01-2010, 08:02 PM
The fact that you can't have a discussion without someone telling you to **** off this is my opinion and whether I'm new to this discussion or not is not irrelevant if you don't have anything constructive to say shut your mouth. When you lose someone you love in these circumstances then I suggest you don't reply unless you would like a debate in a adult manner- get sov out

hennessy
17-01-2010, 08:02 PM
too far fetched

Shaun
17-01-2010, 08:03 PM
Humour.

It opens doors.

Zippy
17-01-2010, 08:06 PM
OK she's an idiot but I think that particular remark was just a figure of speech tbh.

Lighten up, FFS.

cedkins
17-01-2010, 08:09 PM
Maybe she didn't realise what she was saying but I still think she should of thought before she said it

armygal
17-01-2010, 08:18 PM
On last nights show there was a toast to Kat & heidi where sov said Kat & heidi the fallen soldiers..... How can she compare our fallen soldiers to 2 people that have been evicted on a game show, I find this really disrespectful and insult to our fallen heroes.
i toatally agree that was my thought as being apart of an army family true fallen soldiers have gone not 2 stupid wanna bes who need to get on tv to get work and get payed more than men and women who fight for there bloody country!!!! vinnie jones should toatally understand as his son in armed forces

armygal
17-01-2010, 08:21 PM
Oh **** Off!

nice sort of wording i see !!!

chuff me dizzy
17-01-2010, 08:26 PM
On last nights show there was a toast to Kat & heidi where sov said Kat & heidi the fallen soldiers..... How can she compare our fallen soldiers to 2 people that have been evicted on a game show, I find this really disrespectful and insult to our fallen heroes.

I am just going to watch last nights show on catch up as i went out ,IF she did do this it will be one more thing for me to hate her for ,I am the very proud Aunty of a soldier who has just com back from his second tour of Afghanistan ,I truly hope her looby fans on here and not saying it is ok for her to do this

chuff me dizzy
17-01-2010, 08:27 PM
Maybe she didn't realise what she was saying but I still think she should of thought before she said it

Oh please :shocked::shocked::shocked:

cedkins
17-01-2010, 08:27 PM
At least all the others ignored her at that point vinnie to win

CornedBeef
17-01-2010, 08:27 PM
this is being blown way about of proportion.

cedkins
17-01-2010, 08:29 PM
So you think it's acceptable for 2 members of a game show to be compared to fallen soldiers no it's not been blown out it was the wrong comment to make

armygal
17-01-2010, 08:29 PM
as an aunt i see were you coming from i just think was insensetive her sayin that she never thinks b4 sge speaks that girl hope sov goes

cedkins
17-01-2010, 08:33 PM
If you are looking back to last nights it's during the party just after the last song played and they make a toast to Kat and heidi I wasn't sure if I picked it up wrong so watched it again today - she's complaining she's being singled out but comments like that no wonder she's up for eviction

GypsyGoth
17-01-2010, 08:42 PM
It's a phrase, she isn't comparing them to actual dead soliders.

cedkins
17-01-2010, 08:44 PM
Oh get a grip just because someone else agrees doesn't make them the same person

Shasown
17-01-2010, 08:47 PM
Was a bit like when she said she had dodged bullets, after beating Fridays eviction vote. I say Kit her up in combats and ship her off to Helmund, where she can dodge real bullets and maybe learn a bit of teamwork.

Thats what's missing in the playstation generation: self discipline, bring back cold showers and national service I say.

cedkins
17-01-2010, 08:49 PM
Excuse me as I said before this is my opionion I don't personnally attack any of your comments. I have just lost 5 very good friends in afghan and don't appreciate comments referring to our fallen heroes if you don't wish to be part of this debate without being rude and calling someone names then I suggest you seriously look at yourself

cedkins
17-01-2010, 08:51 PM
I don't mine comments like dodging bullets but I think mentioning fallen soldiers is disgusting

GypsyGoth
17-01-2010, 08:52 PM
Maybe we could get the words "fallen" and "soldiers" banned?

30stone
17-01-2010, 08:53 PM
Oh **** Off!

You are stupid.

Less of the insults

cedkins
17-01-2010, 08:54 PM
Now that's being childish it's not about banning those words but wrong time to say them

Shasown
17-01-2010, 08:55 PM
Its modern street talk, from the states where the members of gangs are referred to as soldiers, she didnt mean any disrespect towards any member of any armed forces killed in any current or previous conflict.

Or then again we could petition Davina to wash the little thugs mouth out with bleach and a scrubbing brush when she gets evicted tomorrow?

chuff me dizzy
17-01-2010, 08:58 PM
If you are looking back to last nights it's during the party just after the last song played and they make a toast to Kat and heidi I wasn't sure if I picked it up wrong so watched it again today - she's complaining she's being singled out but comments like that no wonder she's up for eviction

its not on catch up yet ?????

chuff me dizzy
17-01-2010, 08:59 PM
Its modern street talk, from the states where the members of gangs are referred to as soldiers, she didnt mean any disrespect towards any member of any armed forces killed in any current or previous conflict.

Or then again we could petition Davina to wash the little thugs mouth out with bleach and a scrubbing brush when she gets evicted tomorrow?

She not from "the states" and shes not "on the street" she in Boreham wood on cbb :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:

GypsyGoth
17-01-2010, 09:01 PM
Now that's being childish it's not about banning those words but wrong time to say them

Ok but I don't see how it is the wrong time to say it, her intention wasn't to offend people who have lost loved ones and friends (by the way I'm sorry for your loss), it was her just remembering her housemates.

I think you are having a go at her unfairly.

cedkins
17-01-2010, 09:04 PM
Not at all as I said before I liked her until that comment I just think in any circumstance it shouldn't be said especially when it's a game show and 2 people have only been evicted.

spitfire
17-01-2010, 09:07 PM
I despise anyone who disrespects our soldiers fallen or not.
I can not stand that little chav,Sov but i don't think she was disrespecting fallen soldiers for one minute.

cedkins
17-01-2010, 09:12 PM
Not saying she meant it but she still should not of said it

RCW1945
17-01-2010, 09:13 PM
The phrase "fallen soldiers" has been in common usage for centuries.
It is applied to all sorts of situations especially in sport related prose.
It has no direct relevance to Afganistan or Iraq as some of you youngsters might think.
I found it quite pleasing that LS's speech can occasionally be decorated by an appropriate metaphor; or do you prefer "suck my tits"!

Shasown
17-01-2010, 09:13 PM
She not from "the states" and shes not "on the street" she in Boreham wood on cbb :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:

Maybe not but the poor little misunderstood darling is a wanna be gansta, dont forget she has hung with rap artists etc who were gang members and she has a lot of reeespect for them, coz day woz sodjas.

She wasnt dissing anyone with what she said, she just doesnt know any better, she is more to be pitied than scorned.

spitfire
17-01-2010, 09:17 PM
Not saying she meant it but she still should not of said itIt's a bit like when a child falls and grazes its knee,the Mother would say,"Aww come here and let mummy kiss her little soldier better".Is that calling soldiers babies?Of course not,it's just a phrase.

cedkins
17-01-2010, 09:20 PM
No but that's not mentioning dead soldiers is it it's different it should not of been said

spitfire
17-01-2010, 09:22 PM
I think you're over sensitive.

Shasown
17-01-2010, 09:25 PM
I think you're over sensitive.

Yeah me too.

cedkins
17-01-2010, 09:26 PM
Were all entitled to our opinions as I said it's my opinion that fallen soldiers should not be used in any context out of respect.

InOne
17-01-2010, 09:28 PM
It is a well known saying. This thread is pointless.

cedkins
17-01-2010, 09:30 PM
Lol yeah ok

James
17-01-2010, 09:35 PM
It's just a metaphor really. If that is the quote she wasn't comparing them to actual soldiers.

Anyway, no need to argue about it.

cedkins
17-01-2010, 09:40 PM
Thank you James when I joined this I didn't realise I would be personnaly attacked and been called so many names lesson learnt never join a forum because there just full of rude people

cedkins
17-01-2010, 09:41 PM
Can someone please tell me how I can delete this account

*mazedsalv**
17-01-2010, 09:42 PM
Its a phrase.

"Fallen soldiers" doesnt always mean it literally.
It could also mean for people that didnt make something eg.Katia and Heidi who have fallen at the hurdle... not literal soldiers.