If Sov wins

[blueberry]

I'm leaving the country for good, I've thought about it and Britain is in a massive state of decline and is infested with utter scum like Lady Sovereign,Dappy from N-Dubz,Chavs,Jordon,Kelly Katona etc.. and if the youth of today were to vote this thing the winner of the show then it would be time to leave. The country is on a road it can no longer turn off from.

Norway looks nice...............

[CornedBeef]

How exactly is she scum? What has she done that is SO bad to deserve all the hate?

Send us a postcard from Norway, won't you.

[Ramsay]

suuuure you will

[chuff me dizzy]

More chance of plaiting $hit than her winning

[Smithy]

Pssssssstttt. its Kerry Katona

[blueberry]

How exactly is she scum? What has she done that is SO bad to deserve all the hate?

Send us a postcard from Norway, won't you.

Do you really expect me to explain the obvious

[MusicMan]

Dappy from N-Dubz...

Oh my god he is such a douche! like seriously!!

[chuff me dizzy]

Do you really expect me to explain the obvious

I agree with you ,she really is as low as you can get

[Patrick]

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[BigBroFanHere]

Tbh your pathetic, and you don't know any of these people in person so you shouldn't base them on how they appear to the eye.
Leave the country it's not like we're that bothered anyway.

[CornedBeef]

Do you really expect me to explain the obvious

yes, go on...i'm intrigued.

[blueberry]

Tbh your pathetic, and you don't know any of these people in person so you shouldn't base them on how they appear to the eye.
Leave the country it's not like we're that bothered anyway.

Out of interest...do you like any of the other people i've listed in the first post?

[Tom]

The only thing shes winning is tomorrows eviction vote

[blueberry]

i wud love it if she won time for a change :) and anyone that wants to leave cuz of sov be my guest piss off

Is English your first language?

[BigBroFanHere]

Out of interest...do you like any of the other people i've listed in the first post?

Well as i don't know any of them in person, i can't judge them for who they are. But i'm not gonna say that i hate them and 'Leave the country' over them.

[blueberry]

Well as i don't know any of them in person, i can't judge them for who they are. But i'm not gonna say that i hate them and 'Leave the country' over them.

It's not over Lady Sovereign,it's about the direction the place is going and what people like her stand for. The fact we allow the exposure is the main problem.

[tintedshadow]

I'm leaving the country for good, I've thought about it and Britain is in a massive state of decline and is infested with utter scum like Lady Sovereign,Dappy from N-Dubz,Chavs,Jordon,Kelly Katona etc.. and if the youth of today were to vote this thing the winner of the show then it would be time to leave. The country is on a road it can no longer turn off from.

Norway looks nice...............

its funny though,because when you think things through you will come to realise your getting worked up thinking your country is in a state of emergency because of a few chavs? furthermore the mad thing is,judging someone based on class is a fairly scummy thing to do,so really you have a lot in common with those people you listed...

[JAJ1942]

It's not over Lady Sovereign,it's about the direction the place is going and what people like her stand for. The fact we allow the exposure is the main problem.

I agree, it is very disheartening

[BigBroFanHere]

If by 'the place' you mean the uk, it's not people like Sov, Dappy etc. who's taking the country in the wrong direction.

[Deliverance]

It's not over Lady Sovereign,it's about the direction the place is going and what people like her stand for. The fact we allow the exposure is the main problem.

It is a part of it. The media doesn't really do enough to include more serious social issues in the more mainstream popular culture programs due to ratings and viewings etc. This episode of BB as the last series does go to show that in a way.

There is a culture clash in the house for sure. At the same time a lot of hypocrosy and ingnorence is on display as well.

[HellShark]

There is a culture clash, but only one person is being a complete ****.

[Beastie]

If Sov wins.. tough ****!

[Shasown]

Tbh your pathetic, and you don't know any of these people in person so you shouldn't base them on how they appear to the eye.

Daft question, As a logical extension of your comment arent you then advocating not voting to evict or even supporting any of the housemates unless of course you have met them personally?

[Deliverance]

There is a culture clash, but only one person is being a complete ****.
Well I personally wouldn't single out one person. However true it is that this person is a prat. It is easy though to put desperate folks together for entertainment and then sit back and watch the sparks fly. The responsibility for this in a wider social sense lies not with the individuals in the house.

But it is certainly something worth looking at from the responsibility of the media. Further than that it is the voyeurism type mentality combined with boredom from the public reaction and involvement that makes reality tv popular yet strange.

[BigBroFanHere]

Daft question, As a logical extension of your comment arent you then advocating not voting to evict or even supporting any of the housemates unless of course you have met them personally?


Well actually i don't vote. And atleast i'm not calling people scum over what i've seen on tv

[blueberry]

If this is the future of Britain then the Aztecs may aswell be right about 2012..whats the point.

[HellShark]

Well I personally wouldn't single out one person. However true it is that this person is a prat. It is easy though to put desperate folks together for entertainment and then sit back and watch the sparks fly. The responsibility for this in a wider social sense lies not with the individuals in the house.

But it is certainly something worth looking at from the responsibility of the media. Further than that it is the voyeurism type mentality combined with boredom from the public reaction and involvement that makes reality tv popular yet strange.

As much as there are other examples, e.g Stephanies blatant dislike of Jonas juvenile side, it's dealt with in an adult matter. Sov approaches confrontations by either provoking further, being stubborn or acting childish, it's a representation of her demographic though. The chavvish underbelly of society, they think every is owed to them and have no respect for themselves or others.

[blueberry]

Well actually i don't vote. And atleast i'm not calling people scum over what i've seen on tv

I see people like her everyday..lets call them the Jeremy Kyle generation,the pyjamas in the day time people.

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2377/2155635768_23c5ed37c7_m.jpg

http://paulfielding.files.wordpress.com/2008/01/00-30.jpg

I stopped on of the people once and asked why at 3pm is she going down the shops and still in her pyjamas to be told these were her "going out" pyjamas. I nearly collapsed ..lol

[tintedshadow]

There is a culture clash, but only one person is being a complete ****.

yeah.....vinnie...:spin:

[chuff me dizzy]

I see people like her everyday..lets call them the Jeremy Kyle generation,the pyjamas in the day time people.

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2377/2155635768_23c5ed37c7_m.jpg

http://paulfielding.files.wordpress.com/2008/01/00-30.jpg

I stopped on of the people once and asked why at 3pm is she going down the shops and still in her pyjamas to be told these were her "going out" pyjamas. I nearly collapsed ..lol

True Jezza material !!!

[ss00]

lol.

[tintedshadow]

I see people like her everyday..lets call them the Jeremy Kyle generation,the pyjamas in the day time people.

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2377/2155635768_23c5ed37c7_m.jpg

http://paulfielding.files.wordpress.com/2008/01/00-30.jpg

I stopped on of the people once and asked why at 3pm is she going down the shops and still in her pyjamas to be told these were her "going out" pyjamas. I nearly collapsed ..lol

because you felt the need to "understand" her mindframe?for wearing pj's?how about mind your own damn business?

[blueberry]

because you felt the need to "understand" her mindframe?for wearing pj's?how about mind your own damn business?

No i won't...we'll soon wake them up if we cut all benefits and issued food vouchers. Make them pick litter to earn them too.

[Shasown]

Well actually i don't vote. And atleast i'm not calling people scum over what i've seen on tv

Maybe not but you have a rather large banner saying support sov, isnt that a bit hypocritical unless you know her , in fact unless you know all the housemates personally, you shouldnt really have said banner saying she is worthy of support above any other housemate?

[tintedshadow]

No i won't...we'll soon wake them up if we cut all benefits and issued food vouchers. Make them pick litter to earn them too.

i never understand numb nuts like you,as if your so much more superior?tbh your probably a chav in disguise you seem to know alot on the subject.. hows about you dont judge someone based on class?because one day someone will be descriminating you for much the same reasons..

[blueberry]

i never understand numb nuts like you,as if your so much more superior?tbh your probably a chav in disguise you seem to know alot on the subject.. hows about you dont judge someone based on class?because one day someone will be descriminating you for much the same reasons..

Through hard work and education most of the social barriers go away

[tintedshadow]

Through hard work and education most of the social barriers go away

apparently not as sovereign put in the work,as did half of the people on your feeble little list..

[Shasown]

i never understand numb nuts like you,as if your so much more superior?tbh your probably a chav in disguise you seem to know alot on the subject.. hows about you dont judge someone based on class?because one day someone will be descriminating you for much the same reasons..

i didnt realise we had a social class consisting of chavs or benefit spongers, please explain and qualify.

[Stacey.]

:xyxwave: see you!

[blueberry]

apparently not as sovereign put in the work,as did half of the people on your feeble little list..

She hasn't...she's a champion of a disgusting sub culture who with the others are put on a pedestal by the pyjama posse.

[blueberry]

i didnt realise we had a social class consisting of chavs or benefit spongers, please explain and qualify.

lol

[Deliverance]

Through hard work and education most of the social barriers go away

Very true. But it is easy to look at how the other half lives and judge them as an educated person?. That in itself could be seen as ironic when you really think about it. I am sure that some folks might find your opinions and views just as offensive as you may find theirs.

As much as you are educated and all that in your ways and views... then equally you could find an education from others as well (irrespective of their walks of life). Is that not the real key to education? and in fact is that what education is all about? I.e. about actual learning?

[tintedshadow]

She hasn't...she's a champion of a disgusting sub culture who with the others at put of a pedestal by the pyjama posse.

no,the diffrence between me and you is objectively i can see what she's achieved in her life,while you cant look past her class.. it's sad really.. she's twenty four and produced music which is obviosly an acquired taste,but even so she's worked hard for it,and toured in numerous countries,been signed to def jam (which i dont think she's apart of now). point being that sounds like someone who's grafted to me...


denying she's worked hard to be where she is doesnt make sense,since she's on the show for what she's done in the past..

anyways anyone who truly works hard knows not to knock someone else's hustle,which leads me to believe you've lead a very sheltered life..

[tintedshadow]

i didnt realise we had a social class consisting of chavs or benefit spongers, please explain and qualify.

me neither,but as it stands its true... what explanation do you require kid?

[Deliverance]

no,the diffrence between me and you is objectively i can see what she's achieved in her life,while you cant look past her class.. it's sad really.. she's twenty four and produced music which is obviosly an acquired taste,but even so she's worked hard for it,and toured in numerous countries,been signed to def jam (which i dont think she's apart of now). point being that sounds like someone who's grafted to me...

anyone who truly works hard knows not to knock someone else's hustle,which leads me to believe you've lead a very sheltered life..
I agree with you, it is rare to see anyone of this age to succeed as much in such a short time. That in itself deserves respect.

I don't agree with the personal points that you made though. The fella has a point, albeit a point that needs educating for sure.

[Shasown]

no,the diffrence between me and you is objectively i can see what she's achieved in her life,while you cant look past her class.. it's sad really.. she's twenty four and produced music which is obviosly an acquired taste,but even so she's worked hard for it,and toured in numerous countries,been signed to def jam (which i dont think she's apart of now). point being that sounds like someone who's grafted to me...

anyone who truly works hard knows not to knock someone else's hustle,which leads me to believe you've lead a very sheltered life..

I hate to say it but from what I have seen of Sov on the show, she wouldnt know hard work if it walked up and bit her on the arrrse. She had a little talent and got very very lucky to be picked up is all. If she was hard working etc, she would be using her hard work and talent to break the UK market as opposed to being lazy and using CBB to kickstart her UK career

[Shasown]

me neither,but as it stands its true... what explanation do you require kid?

Fuccking Kid? you naive numpty I am old enough to be your dad possibly even your grandad.

[Deliverance]

Fuccking Kid? you naive numpty I am old enough to be your dad possibly even your grandad.
Oh get over yourself for fecks sake. Reacting like this is just plain daft and is going to bring a genuine intelligent debate down (the same could be said of others as well). Best of luck with that I'm out of it as such.

Gonna look for some more humourous, less chip on the shoulder types.

[tintedshadow]

I hate to say it but from what I have seen of Sov on the show, she wouldnt know hard work if it walked up and bit her on the arrrse. She had a little talent and got very very lucky to be picked up is all. If she was hard working etc, she would be using her hard work and talent to break the UK market as opposed to being lazy and using CBB to kickstart her UK career

thats a matter of perspective i suppose,since i work in the music industry i know of the work she had to put in,so i can appreciate it more i suppose.. if we're basing how hard someone works by how they are on this show,then truly stephanie,stephan,dane and sisqo are all lazy too,since theyre careers have been dead for a while now..

[tintedshadow]

Fuccking Kid? you naive numpty I am old enough to be your dad possibly even your grandad.

k kid...

[blueberry]

k kid...

If that is your picture on the Avatar then you'd be barely 15

[tintedshadow]

I agree with you, it is rare to see anyone of this age to succeed as much in such a short time. That in itself deserves respect.

I don't agree with the personal points that you made though. The fella has a point, albeit a point that needs educating for sure.

agreed it was a cheap shot,im just tired of the new found snobbery on this forum,its almost impossible to have a coherant debate on here anymore,its just about rediculing her based on her social background...
i take your point though i shouldnt have gotten personal..

[tintedshadow]

If that is your picture on the Avatar then you'd be barely 15

lol twenty two years young.. problem?

[Jords]

:wavey:

[blueberry]

agreed it was a cheap shot,im just tired of the new found snobbery on this forum,its almost impossible to have a coherant debate on here anymore,its just about rediculing her based on her social background...
i take your point though i shouldnt have gotten personal..

I stand by all my statements

[mike888]

If Sov wins.. tough ****!

That comment just about sums up Sov and the type of people that are supporting her... it's not even worth argueing with scum like you, you'll see tomorrow night you represent the minority that gives this country a bad name!!! :yuk: Sov won't win CBB, Big Brother viewers are more sensible than to vote for selfish childish brats like that!!!

[mike888]

:xyxwave: see you!

You waving her goodbye already then Stacy? :laugh:

[Shasown]

thats a matter of perspective i suppose,since i work in the music industry i know of the work she had to put in,so i can appreciate it more i suppose.. if we're basing how hard someone works by how they are on this show,then truly stephanie,stephan,dane and sisqo are all lazy too,since theyre careers have been dead for a while now..

Do you "do" anything meaningful or are you just a tea boy?

You would then know that Island Records shitcanned Lady Sov,(because of a dispute according to her people) as did Def Jam (mutual parting of the ways) nothing to do with "Def Jam having the hump with her for " a. refusing to record or perform, b. Cutting herslef and refusing medical care c. Overdosing, etc etc etc

[Shasown]

agreed it was a cheap shot,im just tired of the new found snobbery on this forum,its almost impossible to have a coherant debate on here anymore,its just about rediculing her based on her social background...
i take your point though i shouldnt have gotten personal..

beg to differ soft lad I aint slagged her off for her class, that is something I just dont do. I have criticised her for her manners rather lack of them. her stupidity, her arrogance, her greed I could go on for hours or just put etc. etc. etc. everything but her class, or lack of.

[Deliverance]

agreed it was a cheap shot,im just tired of the new found snobbery on this forum,its almost impossible to have a coherant debate on here anymore,its just about rediculing her based on her social background...
i take your point though i shouldnt have gotten personal..
There is a snobbery that is getting out of control. Some folks are using the 'education card' in the wrong way. It really brings the debate down a lot. It makes me think that some individuals are not as learned as they think they are.

That is their problem really and they are best ignored, unless of course they actually learn something from debates and interesting conversations. I have learned to give them some time (not much) to get over daft opinions which are fired for effect.

Ignore them if they carry on because they can be a total downer. Kudos to you though for being the opposite of them.

[Deliverance]

I stand by all my statements
You stand by yourself so. I agree with some of your statements but you failed to back anything up via your chip on your shoulder that you obviously have.

That leads me to think that you need to learn some more things about the issues that you have. I had the same issues recently and got v.angry and dangerously bitter. I took a step back and learned to live and let live as an 'educated' person.

You should try to do the same.

Anyway I want to have a laugh and enjoy this forum so I'm off to do that now.

[Shasown]

You stand by yourself so. I agree with some of your statements but you failed to back anything up via your chip on your shoulder that you obviously have.

That leads me to think that you need to learn some more things about the issues that you have. I had the same issues recently and got v.angry and dangerously bitter. I took a step back and learned to live and let live as an 'educated' person.

You should try to do the same.

Anyway I want to have a laugh and enjoy this forum so I'm off to do that now.

PMSL Fucck me with a stick staff, did you go to the same "Holy Me!" school as Stephen?

[tintedshadow]

beg to differ soft lad I aint slagged her off for her class, that is something I just dont do. I have criticised her for her manners rather lack of them. her stupidity, her arrogance, her greed I could go on for hours or just put etc. etc. etc. everything but her class, or lack of.

i was refering to the OP and other members on this forum,not you.. alright little one?

[Shasown]

i was refering to the OP and other members on this forum,not you.. alright little one?

Apology accepted

[tintedshadow]

PMSL Fucck me with a stick staff, did you go to the same "Holy Me!" school as Stephen?

leave him be cock juggler

(ps i dont mind if i get an infraction for this as this may warrant one)

[Shasown]

leave him be cock juggler

(ps i dont mind if i get an infraction for this as this may warrant one)

OOOhhh get her!!!!

[tintedshadow]

Now now knob rott, Make me, na na na nana ;)

nah im good thanks... just ease off and stop taking shots at him for nothing..

[Shasown]

Didnt realise someone had died and left you as king of the forum

[tintedshadow]

lmao @ changing your post since you didnt feel it was funny... and you'd be right in thinking so

[Shasown]

Nah just rethought about sitting and engaging in a slagging war with you

[tintedshadow]

Didnt realise someone had died and left you as king of the forum

nor did i realise you had to act a fool in every thread,you seem content with flaming,well stick with me and leave him out of it,he's decent and actually one of the very few who speaks real sense on here..(in before smarmy comments about him being my homosexual lover)

[tintedshadow]

Nah just rethought about sitting and engaging in a slagging war with you

and yet here you sit?

[Deliverance]

PMSL Fucck me with a stick staff, did you go to the same "Holy Me!" school as Stephen?

I'm in it for the humour...

lhmjnYKlVnM

[tanita]

If this is the future of Britain then the Aztecs may aswell be right about 2012..whats the point.

Mayans, not Aztecs..

[blueberry]

True

[Shasown]

I'm in it for the humour...

lhmjnYKlVnM

Yeah I remember some of the threads you started last year and some of the posts you made.

[tanita]

IMO yo ushould learn to see deeper then a cover. Sov is by far not a chav. She is a complicated person, and it makes her interesting to watch and to know. I think you are wrong here. I think you shouldn't lable people like that. I think she is a great character, she plays people a lot and makes them think what she wants them to think of her. it seems shee has fooled you too.

[HellShark]

IMO yo ushould learn to see deeper then a cover. Sov is by far not a chav. She is a complicated person, and it makes her interesting to watch and to know. I think you are wrong here. I think you shouldn't lable people like that. I think she is a great character, she plays people a lot and makes them think what she wants them to think of her. it seems shee has fooled you too.

So she makes the whole house and public hate her so she can get evicted? Great tactic, she really does have me fooled!

All sov fans do appear to be morons...

[Trisomy21]

As much as I hate douchebag Stephen, he was right when it comes to British tabloids. The paparazzi there is so invasive and dramatic, you make these ridiculous ******* famous. Plus you also have tits in your paper, but then again who doesn't like tits?