View Full Version : Sisqó Sisqo and his sex with the 14 year old girl
Ghostinthehouse
18-01-2010, 09:50 PM
Why are Ch4 paying a pedo (and yes that what he is - a Swiss court stated he IS the father of a child of a girl that he had sex with when she was only 14 years old - a child) to be on TV?
What next, Gary Glitter?
Why are people ignoring the FACT that Sisqo has been judged in a court of law to have had sex with a child.
HellShark
18-01-2010, 10:08 PM
If there's grass on the wicket it's time to play cricket.
Marten
18-01-2010, 10:28 PM
That amazes me too. In Sweden he would have been crucified. In that sense people here are not at all tolerant.
Beastie
18-01-2010, 10:29 PM
Get the peedo and gold digger out!!!!!
Shasown
18-01-2010, 10:30 PM
If there's grass on the wicket it's time to play cricket.
If it's old enough to bleed, its old enough to butcher ?
biglover
18-01-2010, 10:31 PM
If there's grass on the wicket it's time to play cricket.
Thats Horrible
biglover
18-01-2010, 10:34 PM
It is true lol why is nobody making a big deal out of this? He is a pedofile!!!!!!!
Nemo123
18-01-2010, 10:34 PM
Did he do the deed with a 14 yo?
Wildcat!
18-01-2010, 10:36 PM
Oh typical. Lets bring out Sisqo's deamons now that he is a favorite.
He didnt get any jail time for it.
We've all met people that age that look like adults.
He met her in a club where you where supposed to be 18, thats why!
biglover
18-01-2010, 10:39 PM
Oh typical. Lets bring out Sisqo's deamons now that he is a favorite.
He didnt get any jail time for it.
We've all met people that age that look like adults.
He met her in a club where you where supposed to be 18, thats why!
I actually Love Sisqo, but when I found this out I am very shocked and disapointed. It is a VERY big deamon to have, ****ing a 14 yo is unforgivable, He shouldnt be allowed in there. He is worse than Gary Glitter as Gary didnt actually shag kids, Sisqo has.
Shasown
18-01-2010, 10:51 PM
I actually Love Sisqo, but when I found this out I am very shocked and disapointed. It is a VERY big deamon to have, ****ing a 14 yo is unforgivable, He shouldnt be allowed in there. He is worse than Gary Glitter as Gary didnt actually shag kids, Sisqo has.
Gary Glitter didnt what?
Yes he did
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/asia-pacific/4769164.stm
biglover
18-01-2010, 10:53 PM
He abused them, he didnt actually have intercourse with them, Sisqo has which is even worse than what Garry Glitter has done so why is there no uproar??? Its very bizzare
Shasown
18-01-2010, 10:54 PM
Oh typical. Lets bring out Sisqo's deamons now that he is a favorite.
He didnt get any jail time for it.
We've all met people that age that look like adults.
He met her in a club where you where supposed to be 18, thats why!
He hasnt had any jail time because he hasnt been back to Switzerland, they wont apply for him to be extradited till they have DNA test results.
He wont submit to Swiss demands for a DNA test coz he knows they will then bring charges and ask for his extradition.
Beastie
18-01-2010, 10:55 PM
The public are hypocrites. Sisqo (a peedo) is one of the faves to win but I thought 99% of the public are meant to detest peedo's?
Shasown
18-01-2010, 10:55 PM
He abused them, he didnt actually have intercourse with them, Sisqo has which is even worse than what Garry Glitter has done so why is there no uproar??? Its very bizzare
Yeah right he only abused them, get real, the girls were bought off so as he didnt get prosecuted for rape, that carries the death penalty over there.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/asia-pacific/4559658.stm
GypsyGoth
18-01-2010, 10:57 PM
Sisqo is not a peedo.
biglover
18-01-2010, 10:58 PM
Sisqo is not a peedo.
In the eyes of the law and 99% of the world....thats exactly what he is
Shasown
18-01-2010, 10:59 PM
Sisqo is not a peedo.
Ok if that is what you want to believe but the Swiss court has declared he is the father of a child who was conceived while the mother was only 14.
MissKittyFantastico
18-01-2010, 10:59 PM
Was it not a case of him sleeping with this girl he thought was of legal age that he picked up in a club then finding out later that she was 14?
That hardly makes him a paedo, just plain stupid.
And how you can compare him to Glitter I have no clue!
Shasown
18-01-2010, 11:01 PM
Was it not a case of him sleeping with this girl he thought was of legal age that he picked up in a club then finding out later that she was 14?
That hardly makes him a paedo, just plain stupid.
And how you can compare him to Glitter I have no clue!
ERRR no he denied having sex with her but wont submit for a DNA test to rule himself out as the father.
MissKittyFantastico
18-01-2010, 11:03 PM
ERRR no he denied having sex with her but wont submit for a DNA test to rule himself out as the father.
Hasn't he been talking about this kid in the house though? Or has he got more than one, I'm confused now.
30stone
18-01-2010, 11:04 PM
I dont really like sisqo.
But! I agree with Wildcat! A girl you meet in a club should be 18, and if she looked it its not really his fault imo.
Was it not a case of him sleeping with this girl he thought was of legal age that he picked up in a club then finding out later that she was 14?
That hardly makes him a paedo, just plain stupid.
And how you can compare him to Glitter I have no clue!
I wouldn't compare him to Glitter, but I've really gone off him for sleeping with an underage girl - plus I think he is mercenary and too impressed by how rich people are. He isn't that entertaining, anyway. :sleep:
blueberry
18-01-2010, 11:11 PM
Get the peedo and gold digger out!!!!!
That's a very serious accusation to make against any man...the worst.
Now unless you have a link to a story on his conviction i'd suggest you'd leave it.
Slagging off people because you don't like them is fair enough but this is a bit heavy.
Chuckyegg
18-01-2010, 11:12 PM
Vinnie consistently intimidates women and has punched several of them. Any complaints about that???
Thought not.
InOne
18-01-2010, 11:12 PM
She much have been quite a developed 14 year old. Alot look proper young to me.
Shasown
18-01-2010, 11:13 PM
Hasn't he been talking about this kid in the house though? Or has he got more than one, I'm confused now.
He also has a daughter he fathered when he was 17 - Shi. She cameoed in the video for The Thong song.
30stone
18-01-2010, 11:13 PM
Vinnie consistently intimidates women and has punched several of them. Any complaints about that???
Thought not.
There proof he has?
Beastie
18-01-2010, 11:14 PM
That's a very serious accusation to make against any man...the worst.
Now unless you have a link to a story on his conviction i'd suggest you'd leave it.
Slagging off people because you don't like them is fair enough but this is a bit heavy.
Sisqo is not going to care what I say on here..
Ghostinthehouse
18-01-2010, 11:14 PM
I dont really like sisqo.
But! I agree with Wildcat! A girl you meet in a club should be 18, and if she looked it its not really his fault imo.
It wasn't in a club. She came back stage after a gig. He knew she was a fan and he took advantage of that.
Supposed 'ignorance' of age is NO defence in law, or moral law. Or every pedo could use that excuse.
She was 14 and he had sex with her. He also owes her child support that he refuses to pay.
Sisqo is a pedo - the Swiss courts made the judgement.
You cannot defend what he has done unless you are saying you would do the same too?
Would you?
Jessica.
18-01-2010, 11:17 PM
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-1242357/Swiss-woman-claims-Celebrity-Big-Brother-star-Sisqo-fathered-love-child-just-14.html
'He never asked my age and I never told him I was 14.'
He was 20 and in the pics of when she was younger she looked over 18
Shasown
18-01-2010, 11:17 PM
Vinnie consistently intimidates women and has punched several of them. Any complaints about that???
Thought not.
Complete and utter BS, when has he even been questions about assualting women?
Marten
18-01-2010, 11:18 PM
Come on... how common is it that a 14 year old girl looks like 18? It could happen, but it's definitely not common.
Beastie
18-01-2010, 11:18 PM
It wasn't in a club. She came back stage after a gig. He knew she was a fan and he took advantage of that.
Supposed 'ignorance' of age is NO defence in law, or moral law. Or every pedo could use that excuse.
She was 14 and he had sex with her. He also owes her child support that he refuses to pay.
Sisqo is a pedo - the Swiss courts made the judgement.
You cannot defend what he has done unless you are saying you would do the same too?
Would you?
Yeah 30 stone would sleep with a 14 year old lol
Shasown
18-01-2010, 11:21 PM
That's a very serious accusation to make against any man...the worst.
Now unless you have a link to a story on his conviction i'd suggest you'd leave it.
Slagging off people because you don't like them is fair enough but this is a bit heavy.
Try googling "Sisqo swiss 14 year old" and take your pick
Wildcat!
18-01-2010, 11:29 PM
It wasn't in a club. She came back stage after a gig. He knew she was a fan and he took advantage of that.
Supposed 'ignorance' of age is NO defence in law, or moral law. Or every pedo could use that excuse.
She was 14 and he had sex with her. He also owes her child support that he refuses to pay.
Sisqo is a pedo - the Swiss courts made the judgement.
You cannot defend what he has done unless you are saying you would do the same too?
Would you?
Know the whole story, instead of talking craap!
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-1242357/Swiss-woman-claims-Celebrity-Big-Brother-star-Sisqo-fathered-love-child-just-14.html
Winston Smith
18-01-2010, 11:29 PM
Paedqo
blueberry
18-01-2010, 11:33 PM
Know the whole story, instead of talking craap!
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-1242357/Swiss-woman-claims-Celebrity-Big-Brother-star-Sisqo-fathered-love-child-just-14.html
Well that's him gone. Fair enough...loser.
biglover
18-01-2010, 11:34 PM
Vinnie consistently intimidates women and has punched several of them. Any complaints about that???
Thought not.
Yeah, I didnt know that either!! GET VINNIE OUT!
blueberry
18-01-2010, 11:35 PM
Yeah, I didnt know that either!! GET VINNIE OUT!
He's never did that...he did assault a male neighbor and get convicted for it.
BBUK4LYFE
18-01-2010, 11:37 PM
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2010/01/11/article-1242357-07D19965000005DC-927_468x478.jpg
Does that look like a 14 year old to you?
By the way this story is false.
JTM45
18-01-2010, 11:42 PM
If there was a speck of truth in this story then there's no way on Earth they'd have put Sisqo into CBB.
He wouldn't have even got passed the security/criminal record checks stage.
blueberry
18-01-2010, 11:43 PM
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2010/01/11/article-1242357-07D19965000005DC-927_468x478.jpg
Does that look like a 14 year old to you?
By the way this story is false.
The Daily Mail,
(News International group) have left themselves wide open if it is false..he'd make 100 times more of this then of winning big brother if they have lied.
blueberry
18-01-2010, 11:44 PM
If there was a speck of truth in this story then there's no way on Earth they'd have put Sisqo into CBB.
He wouldn't have even got passed the security/criminal record checks stage.
Don't be daft
BB_Eye
18-01-2010, 11:45 PM
Normally I hate trigger happy libel lawyers, but I wish these red-top journalists would think about how much blinkered reports like this can hurt someone's family.
You know you're in trouble when the Daily Mail sounds balanced by comparison.
JTM45
18-01-2010, 11:49 PM
Don't be daft
How can i even argue when you put up such a strong case........DOUCHE:hugesmile:
Ghostinthehouse
18-01-2010, 11:50 PM
That's a very serious accusation to make against any man...the worst.
Now unless you have a link to a story on his conviction i'd suggest you'd leave it.
Slagging off people because you don't like them is fair enough but this is a bit heavy.
If by heavy you mean serious, then the matter of him having sex with an underage girl IS SERIOUS. Or did you mean something else?
a woman claims that she met Sisqo when she was 14, she is now 25 years old, after a concert in Zurich and claims that she got pregnant by Sisqo and he has done nothing for the child. She said : "After the concert Sisqo was standing with his band at the bar. We went over and talked to them. Then everything went very fast, I was so young, but I wanted to enjoy my life.
http://www.therundown.tv/headlines/say-what/sisqo-gets-his-with-a-surprise-daughter-child-support/
http://www.newsoftheworld.co.uk/showbiz/668999/RampB-star-bedded-fan-in-Zurich-after-1999-concert.html
CELEBRITY Big Brother star Sisqo fathered a child with a 14-year-old fan, a Swiss court decided. The American R&B singer - real name Mark Andrews - bedded the Kenyan-born girl after a concert in 1999.
So, Blueberry, are you ready with your apologies?
blueberry
18-01-2010, 11:51 PM
If by heavy you mean serious, then the matter of him having sex with an underage girl IS SERIOUS. Or did you mean something else?
http://www.therundown.tv/headlines/say-what/sisqo-gets-his-with-a-surprise-daughter-child-support/
http://www.newsoftheworld.co.uk/showbiz/668999/RampB-star-bedded-fan-in-Zurich-after-1999-concert.html
So, Blueberry, are you ready with your apologies?
Read my later posts
blueberry
18-01-2010, 11:53 PM
How can i even argue when you put up such a strong case........DOUCHE:hugesmile:
Sisqo would be loaded if the News international papers run a false story
http://www.therundown.tv/headlines/s...child-support/
http://www.newsoftheworld.co.uk/show...9-concert.html
Rupert Murdoch and his group are no mugs.
fitz2k2
18-01-2010, 11:55 PM
wow yall are late
Shasown
18-01-2010, 11:56 PM
If there was a speck of truth in this story then there's no way on Earth they'd have put Sisqo into CBB.
He wouldn't have even got passed the security/criminal record checks stage.
Yeah like Michael Barrymore and the Stuart Lubbock death in 2001, didnt Barrymore appear in the house in 2006?
Ghostinthehouse
18-01-2010, 11:57 PM
Read my later posts
I already had read you 'don't be daft' posts. Your pics of a heavily made up 14year old underage girl are not convincing. Unsurprisingly.
So, where is your apology for saying I made it up??????
You do realise YOU are defending a man, Sisqo, for having illegal sex with an underage girl?
I cannot believe the amount of adult males in this thread who are defending sex with a child if she (conveniently to them) appears a 'bit grown up' because of a bit of make up. Geez that is seriously bad. :nono:
Shasown
19-01-2010, 12:01 AM
Yeah, I didnt know that either!! GET VINNIE OUT!
LOL what proof did you get before making your mind up on that one?
Vinnie Jones was accused of assaulting 3 women in South Africa, however they withdrew the allegations and all charges on that case were dropped.
BB_Eye
19-01-2010, 12:07 AM
Must say I can't defend Sisqo on this one. Even if she has forgiven him for it, that still doesn't mean he is above the law. (see Roman Polanski)
The whole child support thing is an issue for the civil court, which is why I'm guessing they haven't made allegations of statutory rape. The criminal court may be waiting for the evidence from the DNA test itself.
blueberry
19-01-2010, 12:10 AM
LOL what proof did you get before making your mind up on that one?
Vinnie Jones was accused of assaulting 3 women in South Africa, however they withdrew the allegations and all charges on that case were dropped.
Lived and worked in Joburg in 2005 and would take the story with a pinch of salt until i found out more.
Wild accusations are made every day out there.
hennessy
19-01-2010, 12:11 AM
whichever way you look at it it's plain wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong
(couldn't help it)
danda012
19-01-2010, 12:12 AM
I wonder why this was brought up the one time he was up for eviction:rolleyes:
blueberry
19-01-2010, 12:14 AM
Becasue its the only time the media scratch below the surface ...do you think thay will print the dirt on every housemate in week one?
hennessy
19-01-2010, 12:21 AM
danda this was brought up way before, check the older thread
spitfire
19-01-2010, 12:26 AM
Lets bring out Sisqo's deamons now that he is a favorite.
:joker::joker:
Shasown
19-01-2010, 12:31 AM
http://translate.google.co.uk/translate?hl=en&sl=de&u=http://www.tagesanzeiger.ch/zuerich/region/RnBStar-Sisqo-behauptet-Ich-habe-kein-Kind-in-der-Schweiz/story/18782607&ei=MQlVS-l-nrzSBOOuvKoK&sa=X&oi=translate&ct=result&resnum=2&ved=0CA0Q7gEwAQ&prev=/search%3Fq%3Dsisqo%2Bich%2Bhab%2Bkein%2Bkind%2Bsch weiz%26hl%3Den%26sa%3DG
Thats a link to a translated page of a swiss newspaper, where Sisqo argues that he wasnt even in the country at the time of conception, the last paragraph it says that the Zurich District Court felt the weight of evidence presented to it backed up his claim.
The paternity claim then went to the Swiss High Court which looked at it again and using medial report on the date of conception decided the paternity claim and the maintenance action against him was fair. Then given the only proper defence for him under Swiss Law was to provide a DNA sample, which he refused to do. they had to state he was in Swiss Law the father of the child in question.
starry
19-01-2010, 01:08 AM
"The truth hurts" said Sisqo about Katia, erm....does it hurt for sisqo too? lol
ange7
19-01-2010, 03:52 AM
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-1242357/Swiss-woman-claims-Celebrity-Big-Brother-star-Sisqo-fathered-love-child-just-14.html
he's guilty of screwing a random fan when he was 21. Why was she at the club ya think?
blueberry
19-01-2010, 03:56 AM
He was "living the vida loca"
apparently she had "She had dumps like a truck, truck, truck
Thighs like what? What? What? "
blueberry
19-01-2010, 03:57 AM
Shall i sing I’ll again?
King Gizzard
19-01-2010, 03:58 AM
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-1242357/Swiss-woman-claims-Celebrity-Big-Brother-star-Sisqo-fathered-love-child-just-14.html
he's guilty of screwing a random fan when he was 21. Why was she at the club ya think?
see she looks at least 18 in that pic of her when she was pregnant with the child. i don't think hes to blame, he was 21, he thought she was 18.
blueberry
19-01-2010, 04:00 AM
see she looks at least 18 in that pic of her when she was pregnant with the child. i don't think hes to blame, he was 21, he thought she was 18.
did you really type that
King Gizzard
19-01-2010, 04:01 AM
did you really type that
Yes
blueberry
19-01-2010, 04:03 AM
Yes
It's a crime,it can be a mistake but it's a crime.
where do you draw the line
King Gizzard
19-01-2010, 04:06 AM
I suppose you're right. The dude was very unlucky though. (I'm not even a sisqo fan)
ange7
19-01-2010, 04:23 AM
see she looks at least 18 in that pic of her when she was pregnant with the child. i don't think hes to blame, he was 21, he thought she was 18.
yeah I agree ... don't listen to blue balls. He's got a hard on for sisqo :P
WOMBAI
19-01-2010, 07:35 AM
I dont really like sisqo.
But! I agree with Wildcat! A girl you meet in a club should be 18, and if she looked it its not really his fault imo.
It definitely is his fault - if he refuses to take responsibility for the child - which it appears he is doing!
chuff me dizzy
19-01-2010, 07:57 AM
Why are Ch4 paying a pedo (and yes that what he is - a Swiss court stated he IS the father of a child of a girl that he had sex with when she was only 14 years old - a child) to be on TV?
What next, Gary Glitter?
Why are people ignoring the FACT that Sisqo has been judged in a court of law to have had sex with a child.
TOTALLY agree ! and to think he still has fans is beyond me !! it would be like nominating the Mc Canns for parents of the year ......sick
chuff me dizzy
19-01-2010, 07:59 AM
I suppose you're right. The dude was very unlucky though. (I'm not even a sisqo fan)
I beg to differ ,the child he slept with and the other child he disowns are the unlucky ones
yousoboo!
19-01-2010, 08:08 AM
when girls put on makeup sometimes its really hard to tell.
chuff me dizzy
19-01-2010, 08:19 AM
Yeah like Michael Barrymore and the Stuart Lubbock death in 2001, didnt Barrymore appear in the house in 2006?
Barrymore was found NOT GUILTY in a court of law
arista
19-01-2010, 08:48 AM
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-1242357/Swiss-woman-claims-Celebrity-Big-Brother-star-Sisqo-fathered-love-child-just-14.html
he's guilty of screwing a random fan when he was 21. Why was she at the club ya think?
To Make Money.
Life In The City.
Shasown
19-01-2010, 10:33 AM
Barrymore was found NOT GUILTY in a court of law
Err beg to differ, he was never found not guilty, the September 2002 inquest returned an open verdict.
On Barrymore's high-profile return to the UK in January 2006 to take part in Celebrity Big Brother,(5-27 January) Essex lawyer and local activist Anthony Bennett initiated a private prosecution, comprising six charges regarding Barrymore's alleged misuse of drink and drugs on the night of the younger Lubbock's death. The action commenced in Epping Magistrates Court on 16 January 2006.
On 10 February, 2006, a District Judge at Southend Magistrates' Court blocked the private prosecution against Barrymore on the grounds of insufficient evidence being available for the case to continue
Obviously you can see from those dates the private prosecution was brought after he entered the house and was stopped by the judge after he left the house.
On 14 June, 2007, Essex police arrested Barrymore and two other men on suspicion of murder and serious sexual assault in the Lubbock case.
In September 2007 in a police interview Barrymore was told he would not face for the events that had occured.
karezza
19-01-2010, 10:35 AM
If Sisqo was white he would be crucified. Just look at Gary Glitters.
B19brother
19-01-2010, 10:41 AM
[QUOTE=MissKittyFantastico;2890387]Was it not a case of him sleeping with this girl he thought was of legal age that he picked up in a club then finding out later that she was 14?
That hardly makes him a paedo, just plain stupid.
And how you can compare him to Glitter I have no clue![/QU
YOU SEE SOME PPL DONT HAVE BRAINS ON HERE, THEY ARE EITHER PPEDOS THEMSELVES OR A BIBLE BASHER LIKE STEPHAN.
THEY DONT UNDERSTAND THAT THE INCIDENT TOOK PLACE IN phuking club. were they hav to be over 18.
obv the girl must hav been looking older for her age. and if they did hav intecourse she obc gace consent to do it. other wise rape charges could have been thrwn at him.
SISQO IS NOT A PEDO, HE IS THE WINNER OF CBB7
Shasown
19-01-2010, 10:46 AM
If Sisqo was white he would be crucified. Just look at Gary Glitters.
Gary Glitter wasn't crucified. Jesus was, but not I might add for any sexual offences against children. Ask Stephen when he gets out or Gavin.
Niamh.
19-01-2010, 10:48 AM
If Sisqo was white he would be crucified. Just look at Gary Glitters.
Don't be ridiculous! There's a big difference between what Gary Glitter did and what Sisqo did. Obviously it's not good that the girl was 14 but from what I can gather she looked alot older and he thought she was older, it's not a recurring thing that he's does, seems like a bad mistake on his part
MojoNixon
19-01-2010, 11:09 AM
Oh typical. Lets bring out Sisqo's deamons now that he is a favorite.
He didnt get any jail time for it.
We've all met people that age that look like adults.
He met her in a club where you where supposed to be 18, thats why!
ummmm....:conf: i see that you are Michael Jackson fan...Jesus Juice???
Chuckyegg
19-01-2010, 11:23 AM
The Daily Mail
hahahahahahahahahahaha
MojoNixon
19-01-2010, 11:28 AM
YOU SEE SOME PPL DONT HAVE BRAINS ON HERE, THEY ARE EITHER PPEDOS THEMSELVES OR A BIBLE BASHER LIKE STEPHAN.
THEY DONT UNDERSTAND THAT THE INCIDENT TOOK PLACE IN phuking club. were they hav to be over 18.
obv the girl must hav been looking older for her age. and if they did hav intecourse she obc gace consent to do it. other wise rape charges could have been thrwn at him.
SISQO IS NOT A PEDO, HE IS THE WINNER OF CBB7
Sorry but that pimp daddy ain't gonna win anything but a bucket of ****.
BB_Eye
19-01-2010, 12:48 PM
If Sisqo was white he would be crucified. Just look at Gary Glitters.
Ah there we go.
Karezza out with the racially incendiary comments once again.
wow i didnt know this:eek:
Crimson Dynamo
19-01-2010, 01:08 PM
what is more shocking is why was a 14 year old child at a nightclub. what were the parents doing, or the bouncers?
it is a horrible story
Niamh.
19-01-2010, 01:12 PM
what is more shocking is why was a 14 year old child at a nightclub. what were the parents doing, or the bouncers?
it is a horrible story
They obviously don't give a ****, she wasn't a virgin either so more than likely she's done it with someone else who didn't know she was so young before but they weren't famous so we don't know the full story at all
NadiasWilly
19-01-2010, 01:51 PM
He is worse than Gary Glitter as Gary didnt actually shag kids, Sisqo has.
Er, thats a very naive statement. I suspect what Glitter the shitter got charged with was just the tip of the iceburg. Hell yeah. He was visiting those "poor" Asian countries for years prior to his arrest.
Sisqo's crime was probably a one off mistake in a nightclub. We all know that 14 year old girls can pass as 18 these days. Alarmingly easy.
Not excusing him but he's nowhere near Glitters vile status. :nono:
Beastie
19-01-2010, 01:55 PM
Sisqo to get the boot on Friday along with Miss Piggy.
Niamh.
19-01-2010, 02:00 PM
Er, thats a very naive statement. I suspect what Glitter the shitter got charged with was just the tip of the iceburg. Hell yeah. He was visiting those "poor" Asian countries for years prior to his arrest.
Sisqo's crime was probably a one off mistake in a nightclub. We all know that 14 year old girls can pass as 18 these days. Alarmingly easy.
Not excusing him but he's nowhere near Glitters vile status. :nono:
Yeah this ^^^^^^^^^
Gary Glitter preyed on girls as young as 11 for a start and he did this numerous times as he was paedophile, he specifically seeked out children. Sisqo met a 14 year old in a night club (where 14 year olds are not supposed to be) who probably was wearing make-up and clothes to make her look older (she obviously also fooled the bouncers into thinking she was older). Big Difference.
Marten
19-01-2010, 02:14 PM
Gary Glitter preyed on girls as young as 11 for a start and he did this numerous times as he was paedophile, he specifically seeked out children. Sisqo met a 14 year old in a night club (where 14 year olds are not supposed to be) who probably was wearing make-up and clothes to make her look older (she obviously also fooled the bouncers into thinking she was older). Big Difference.
I agree there is a huge difference. I don't think Sisqo is a peado at all. However, in a court of law (at least here in Sweden) what a girl is wearing or whether she should have been in the club or not, cannot be used as an argument. I assume it works the same in Switzerland. If you claim the girl should have highlighted the fact that she was too young, you put the blame on the child. It doesn't work like that. It is up to the guy. If he's uncertain he better put his member back into his pants.
Niamh.
19-01-2010, 02:24 PM
I agree there is a huge difference. I don't think Sisqo is a peado at all. However, in a court of law (at least here in Sweden) what a girl is wearing or whether she should have been in the club or not, cannot be used as an argument. I assume it works the same in Switzerland. If you claim the girl should have highlighted the fact that she was too young, you put the blame on the child. It doesn't work like that. It is up to the guy. If he's uncertain he better put his member back into his pants.
Oh, I know that!! I'm just saying that whoever said he was worse than Gary Glitter is miles off the mark!
NadiasWilly
19-01-2010, 02:25 PM
I suspect most guys would look at Sisqo's case and think "there by the grace of God...". If you are in a nightclub then you are in a certain state of mind; a bit tipsy maybe, a bit horny maybe...all of which affects your judgement. Add to that dim lighting and a 14 year old girl who is dressed to deceive in full make up and sexy gear....DANGER ALERT!!
It's a bad judgement call anybody could make in the right(or wrong) circumstances. And even at 14, that girl has to take some blame for her part in the deception. SHE knew how old she was...he didn't. She was the one out to deceive. Not only did she get Sisqo in trouble with her lies but she was also putting the clubs license at risk.
Very easy to get righteous and simplistic about such a case. But this **** happens ALL THE TIME. Just not with celebs involved.
Beastie
19-01-2010, 02:28 PM
I suspect most guys would look at Sisqo's case and think "there by the grace of God...". If you are in a nightclub then you are in a certain state of mind; a bit tipsy maybe, a bit horny maybe...all of which affects your judgement. Add to that dim lighting and a 14 year old girl who is dressed to deceive in full make up and sexy gear....DANGER ALERT!!
It's a bad judgement call anybody could make in the right(or wrong) circumstances. And even at 14, that girl has to take some blame for her part in the deception. SHE knew how old she was...he didn't. She was the one out to deceive. Not only did she get Sisqo in trouble with her lies but she was also putting the clubs license at risk.
Very easy to get righteous and simplistic about such a case. But this **** happens ALL THE TIME. Just not with celebs involved.
Yep it happens. Most people now lose their virginity before the age of 16 and some get pregnant.
Beastie
19-01-2010, 02:28 PM
I love your avatar btw.. Nadiaswilly!
InOne
19-01-2010, 02:29 PM
I suspect most guys would look at Sisqo's case and think "there by the grace of God...". If you are in a nightclub then you are in a certain state of mind; a bit tipsy maybe, a bit horny maybe...all of which affects your judgement. Add to that dim lighting and a 14 year old girl who is dressed to deceive in full make up and sexy gear....DANGER ALERT!!
It's a bad judgement call anybody could make in the right(or wrong) circumstances. And even at 14, that girl has to take some blame for her part in the deception. SHE knew how old she was...he didn't. She was the one out to deceive. Not only did she get Sisqo in trouble with her lies but she was also putting the clubs license at risk.
Very easy to get righteous and simplistic about such a case. But this **** happens ALL THE TIME. Just not with celebs involved.
True, it's not like he raped her or anything.
MojoNixon
19-01-2010, 02:30 PM
Eh??? So Sisqo did nothing wrong? Blame girl and nightclub? right.....
Niamh.
19-01-2010, 02:32 PM
True, it's not like he raped her or anything.
and she wasn't a virgin either so no doubt he wasn't the first older guy she'd got into bed with.
MojoNixon
19-01-2010, 02:33 PM
and she wasn't a virgin either so no doubt he wasn't the first older guy she'd got into bed with.
So it was ok?
Niamh.
19-01-2010, 02:33 PM
Eh??? So Sisqo did nothing wrong? Blame girl and nightclub? right.....
Blame her parents more to the point, what the ***** is a 14 year old doing out all night?
MojoNixon
19-01-2010, 02:34 PM
Blame her parents more to the point, what the ***** is a 14 year old doing out all night?
You are saved Sisqo! All forgiven by Niamhxo!
Beastie
19-01-2010, 02:34 PM
The 14 year old should be at the pictures, or ice skating or bowling.. NOT NIGHTCLUBS! Although they do have them "nappy nights" for 13-17 year olds usually..
Niamh.
19-01-2010, 02:38 PM
So it was ok?
I'm not saying it's ok but It's not a black and white case. Sisqo didn't intentionally set out to bed an under age child as Paedophiles do.
Niamh.
19-01-2010, 02:39 PM
You are saved Sisqo! All forgiven by Niamhxo!
So you don't blame her parents then?
MojoNixon
19-01-2010, 02:43 PM
So you don't blame her parents then?
Of course, it's not Sisqo's fault if he is horny.
MojoNixon
19-01-2010, 02:44 PM
I'm not saying it's ok but It's not a black and white case. Sisqo didn't intentionally set out to bed an under age child as Paedophiles do.
Cut that crap
Niamh.
19-01-2010, 02:45 PM
Of course, it's not Sisqo's fault if he is horny.
Right...................... silly me for trying to have a discussion with someone who isn't interested in disscussing.
MojoNixon
19-01-2010, 02:47 PM
Right...................... silly me for trying to have a discussion with someone who isn't interested in disscussing.
Try to talk with Sisqo's willie, he may answer for you.
Niamh.
19-01-2010, 02:47 PM
Cut that crap
The End.
MojoNixon
19-01-2010, 02:49 PM
The End.
The Ned.
Twilight
19-01-2010, 02:54 PM
Have you seen pics of girl when shes 15 she looked about 25. to me lol
Marten
19-01-2010, 02:56 PM
If you believe it's the girls fault, or her parents', or the club's, but not Sisqo's, then you should lobby for a more liberal legal system. Either you follow the laws or you don't, and in Sisqo's case he didn't.
MojoNixon
19-01-2010, 02:58 PM
If you believe it's the girls fault, or her parents', or the club's, but not Sisqo's, then you should lobby for a more liberal legal system. Either you follow the laws or you don't, and in Sisqo's case he didn't.
Extremely well said.
Niamh.
19-01-2010, 02:59 PM
If you believe it's the girls fault, or her parents', or the club's, but not Sisqo's, then you should lobby for a more liberal legal system. Either you follow the laws or you don't, and in Sisqo's case he didn't.
I'm not saying he wasn't wrong at all though, I'm saying that he was wrong but so was the night Club who broke the law by letting an under age girl in and her parents who should know where their 14 year old is at that time of night.
MojoNixon
19-01-2010, 03:00 PM
I'm not saying he wasn't wrong at all though, I'm saying that he was wrong but so was the night Club who broke the law by letting an under age girl in and her parents who should know where their 14 year old is at that time of night.
And you are woman??? geeze....
Niamh.
19-01-2010, 03:01 PM
And you are woman??? geeze....
Can you please stop talking to me. Thanks.
MojoNixon
19-01-2010, 03:02 PM
Can you please stop talking to me. Thanks.
I get it alright, you say that Sisqo did nothing wrong.
Marten
19-01-2010, 03:04 PM
I'm not saying he wasn't wrong at all though, I'm saying that he was wrong but so was the night Club who broke the law by letting an under age girl in and her parents who should know where their 14 year old is at that time of night.
In Sweden the club would probably have lost its license to serve alcohol, but Sisqo's would have spent time in jain. Both wrong, of course.
Niamh.
19-01-2010, 03:06 PM
In Sweden the club would probably have lost its license to serve alcohol, but Sisqo's would have spent time in jain. Both wrong, of course.
absolutely, I agree. As I've said on numerous occasions already though in this Thread, I'm simply saying that comparing him to Gary Glitter is just not a fair comparison. Although words that are not mine are being put in my mouth!!
MojoNixon
19-01-2010, 03:07 PM
absolutely, I agree. As I've said on numerous occasions already though in this Thread, I'm simply saying that comparing him to Gary Glitter is just not a fair comparison. Although words that are not mine are being put in my mouth!!
So it was ok because she was on night club?
NadiasWilly
19-01-2010, 03:08 PM
Try to talk with Sisqo's willie, he may answer for you.
Well I'm Nadia's willy but I never answer for Nadia. She'd cut me if I dared even try.
Actually, she cut me anyway! :bawling:
get the sex case nonce out
MojoNixon
19-01-2010, 03:10 PM
Well I'm Nadia's willy but I never answer for Nadia. She'd cut me if I dared even try.
Actually, she cut me anyway! :bawling:
:xyxwave:
Don't worry, maybe Nimxhao (or whatever it was) will talk to you.
NadiasWilly
19-01-2010, 03:13 PM
get the sex case nonce out
No, get the drug case fat bigot out!
No, hang on, get the gold digging bitch out!
Wow what a classy bunch this year!
Marten
19-01-2010, 03:15 PM
It was wrong for the club to let her in and her parents shouldn't have let her to go out, but those are minor offenses, compared to Sisqo's. You can feel sorry for Sisqo for being such a jerk though.
MojoNixon
19-01-2010, 03:23 PM
Title: Lil' Flip - Like A Pimp lyrics
Sisqo made you show your thong
Bitch im dead wrong
The playa from the crib
So get out on the flo'
And girl get it how you live
And since you so hot (hot)
Then show yo ***** lips
Go to Tugallo, but I know you still flip
Bitch don't trip
Aint a damn thang changed
I still love my queen
But bitches keep me to the game
So if you gotta hoe
Shake em up and let em go uhh
And let them girls get down on the flo' on the flo'
Like a Pimp
Ghostinthehouse
19-01-2010, 05:42 PM
Originally Posted by wannashag
get the sex case nonce out
No, get the drug case fat bigot out!
No, hang on, get the gold digging bitch out!
Wow what a classy bunch this year!
Hey, NadiasWilly, how do you think that drugs or 'gold digging' is the same as pedo Sisqo?
Pedos like Sisqo are the lowest of human life.
Stacey.
19-01-2010, 05:43 PM
Stop bringing this up.
Ghostinthehouse
19-01-2010, 05:44 PM
It was wrong for the club to let her in and her parents shouldn't have let her to go out, but those are minor offenses, compared to Sisqo's. You can feel sorry for Sisqo for being such a jerk though.
It was NOT a club, it was after a gig. How can you feel sorry for Sisqo when he has taken advantage of a child for sex? :nono:
Ghostinthehouse
19-01-2010, 05:48 PM
Stop bringing this up.
Oh not you again. lol. You're still stalking me because of what I said about your Sov. lol.
Now your defending the Pedo Sisqo - who has been judged in court and found guilty of fathering the child of a 14 year old girl - having sex with a child. Why am I not surprised you are defending that.
How about you stop stalking every thread I post in?
Stacey.
19-01-2010, 05:51 PM
Oh not you again. lol. You're still stalking me because of what I said about your Sov. lol.
Now your defending the Pedo Sisqo - who has been judged in court and found guilty of fathering the child of a 14 year old girl - having sex with a child. Why am I not surprised you are defending that.
How about you stop stalking every thread I post in?
Im not stalking you. who would?!:joker:
im just replying to the thread,
No need to bring Sov into this.. just like there is no need to bring Sisqos background into CBB, :nono:
Ghostinthehouse
19-01-2010, 05:56 PM
there is no need to bring Sisqos background into CBB
So, you think Gary Glitter is fine also?
You don't care if the person you support is a pedo and has sex with children, that is OK for you?
Do you think Sisqo is OK to have sex with children then?
Or aren't you mature enough to answer that question?
Stacey.
19-01-2010, 06:01 PM
So, you think Gary Glitter is fine also?
You don't care if the person you support is a pedo and has sex with children, that is OK for you?
Do you think Sisqo is OK to have sex with children then?
Or aren't you mature enough to answer that question?
wtf?
Gary Glitter?
i was never talking about him. :conf:
we dont even know the full story, so you cant reallly comment on it.
txprincess311
19-01-2010, 06:02 PM
It was NOT a club, it was after a gig. How can you feel sorry for Sisqo when he has taken advantage of a child for sex? :nono:
Actually, it was in a club. Get your facts straight. Her own mother said so. And while, if it is true, is regrettable, how many people who meet someone in a bar would ever think the person they are talking to is underaged? What penalties should be filed against the bar for allowing minors in? Or the girls' own parents for allowing a minor to be at such a place and failing to protect their child? Very neglectful parenting if a 14 yo is in a bar. Not saying what he did was responsible(having unprotected sex with someone you know nothing about is obviously not a good choice) but this could happen to many people, considering how many people go home with one night stands from bars and I bet never ask to see an ID.
Shasown
19-01-2010, 06:08 PM
So where do you all stand on Child Support, the court has ruled he owes child support since the child was born. He could pay it without acknowledging the fact he is the father, thats allowed under Swiss Law as he is obeying the Swiss High Court ruling. If he wanted to prove it wasnt him as he insists though, surely he could just submit to a DNA test.
Marten
19-01-2010, 06:45 PM
It was NOT a club, it was after a gig. How can you feel sorry for Sisqo when he has taken advantage of a child for sex? :nono:
I guess you didn't read my earlier posts. "Feel sorry" was ironic.
NadiasWilly
19-01-2010, 07:00 PM
So where do you all stand on Child Support, the court has ruled he owes child support since the child was born.
He should see what the child looks like first.
If it's white she ain't got no right. If it's black he gotta payback.
As Shakespeare would say.
:dance:
Ghostinthehouse
19-01-2010, 07:06 PM
So where do you all stand on Child Support, the court has ruled he owes child support since the child was born. He could pay it without acknowledging the fact he is the father, thats allowed under Swiss Law as he is obeying the Swiss High Court ruling. If he wanted to prove it wasnt him as he insists though, surely he could just submit to a DNA test.
Sisqo hasn't paid the girl any money, apparently Sisqo owes the mother years of child support.
Niamh.
19-01-2010, 07:10 PM
He should see what the child looks like first.
If it's white she ain't got no right. If it's black he gotta payback.
As Shakespeare would say.
:dance:
The mother is black.
Ghostinthehouse
19-01-2010, 07:17 PM
Actually, it was in a club. Get your facts straight. ...
I have got my 'facts straight'. If you bother to read back through this thread you will see the post where I posted the quote from the child of 14 years (that the pedo Sisqo had sex with)herself she should know where she met Sisqo - duh.
Not saying what he did was responsible(having unprotected sex with someone you know nothing about is obviously not a good choice) but this could happen to many people,
Including your own experience?
Unprotected sex is not the issue here, it's the fact that a Swiss court has ruled that Sisqo is guilty of having sex with a 14 year old child and making her pregnant, and YOU call pedo underage sex with a child 'not a good choice', wtf, it's wrong and illegal - not an option just because you fancy sex with a kid like Sisqo did.
considering how many people go home with one night stands from bars and I bet never ask to see an ID.
Sex with a child is not defendable. Your defence of Sisqo, and other adult men, having sex with underage girls is disgusting and illegal.
Ghostinthehouse
19-01-2010, 07:20 PM
we dont even know the full story, so you cant reallly comment on it.
Yes we do know the full story. You clearly aren't following this are you!
And I'm sure the Swiss court had the full story when they made the judgement against Sisqo, stating that Sisqo is guilty of having sex with a 14 year old child and making her pregnant.
You think you know more than a Swiss judge in a court of law? - that is laughable Stacey. LOL.
Stacey.
19-01-2010, 07:34 PM
Yes we do know the full story. You clearly aren't following this are you!
And I'm sure the Swiss court had the full story when they made the judgement against Sisqo, stating that Sisqo is guilty of having sex with a 14 year old child and making her pregnant.
You think you know more than a Swiss judge in a court of law? - that is laughable Stacey. LOL.
who are you to comment on this, and think youre some sort of 'know it'?
:conf:
im just not getting you at all.
Ghostinthehouse
19-01-2010, 09:28 PM
who are you to comment on this...
It's called society. WTF?????
im just not getting...
The facts are there in a court of law. What don't you get?
The Swiss court judged Sisqo guilty of sex with a child aged 14 years old and they judged Sisqo guilty of fathering her child by having sex with a minor.
What don't you get????
Stacey.
19-01-2010, 09:32 PM
It's called society. WTF?????
:joker:
Ghostinthehouse
19-01-2010, 09:41 PM
:joker:
Stacey, stop spamming. If you are not discussing the topic don't post spam posts with nothing in them.
I notice (as everyone else has) that you have avoided answering about your support of a pedo Sisqo. LOL.
BlackOrWhite
19-01-2010, 09:43 PM
It was NOT a club, it was after a gig. How can you feel sorry for Sisqo when he has taken advantage of a child for sex? :nono:
Define child. How many 14/15 year olds do you see walking around in fish net tights, short tops, short skirts with about 90% of their body showing? It's very hard to actually determine if alot of girls are underage nowadays with all that **** they cake on their face and all the clothes they wear (or not wear should I say). This no doubt happens every single day somewhere in the world.
A guy goes out one night, meets a girl in a club whos says she's 18, takes her home and things go from there only to find out the next day that she's younger than she said. What should he have done? Asked her for ID?
And we don't have the 'full story'. Only 2 people know 100% what went on that night. What 'we' have is tabloid garbage which has been over exaggerated, misconstrued and 75% of it will no doubt have been made up. So we don't know the 'facts'. We don't know the 'full story'. We think we do.
Shasown
19-01-2010, 09:50 PM
Define child. How many 14/15 year olds do you see walking around in fish net tights, short tops, short skirts with about 90% of their body showing? It's very hard to actually determine if alot of girls are underage nowadays with all that **** they cake on their face and all the clothes they wear (or not wear should I say). This no doubt happens every single day somewhere in the world.
A guy goes out one night, meets a girl in a club whos says she's 18, takes her home and things go from there only to find out the next day that she's younger than she said. What should he have done? Asked her for ID?
And we don't have the 'full story'. Only 2 people know 100% what went on that night. What 'we' have is tabloid garbage which has been over exaggerated, misconstrued and 75% of it will no doubt have been made up. So we don't know the 'facts'. We don't know the 'full story'. We think we do.
So why wont Sisqo have a dna test which would prove 100% that he wasnt the father, or would it?
Ghostinthehouse
19-01-2010, 10:07 PM
Define child.
I presume you mean for the purposes of not having sex with them as Sisqo has.
The age of consent in the UK is 16 years.
You have real problems within yourself if you think having sex with a child is OK - IT IS NOT. The law defines the age of consent - not you or Sisqo.
How many 14/15 year olds do you see walking around in fish net tights, short tops, short skirts with about 90% of their body showing?
So you think that if a child wears a swimsuit, short skirt or whatever that it means adult men can choose to have sex with them because of it - what you're suggesting is disgusting.
It's very hard to actually determine if alot of girls are underage nowadays with all that **** they cake on their face and all the clothes they wear (or not wear should I say).
WTF. You trying to justify child rape. What planet do you live on Stacey?
Underage is underage, a child is a child. End of.
This no doubt happens every single day somewhere in the world.
What happens 'every single day' and what is that supposed to mean?
A guy goes out one night, meets a girl in a club whos says she's 18, takes her home and things go from there only to find out the next day that she's younger than she said. What should he have done? Asked her for ID?
How come you are so versed in pedo excuses?
And we don't have the 'full story'. Only 2 people know 100% what went on that night. What 'we' have is tabloid garbage which has been over exaggerated, misconstrued and 75% of it will no doubt have been made up. So we don't know the 'facts'. We don't know the 'full story'. We think we do.
It is not 'tabloid garbage' (you wish it was don't you stacey). lol.
It is the judgement of a court of law that has found Sisqo guilty of sex with a child and making that child pregnant at 14 years old. IT IS LEGAL FACT.
Ghostinthehouse
19-01-2010, 10:08 PM
So why wont Sisqo have a dna test which would prove 100% that he wasnt the father, or would it?
Good point Shasown.
BB_Eye
19-01-2010, 10:16 PM
He's going to have to do something when he gets out the house. Looks like more people will know about it now.
BlackOrWhite
19-01-2010, 10:34 PM
I presume you mean for the purposes of not having sex with them as Sisqo has.
The age of consent in the UK is 16 years.
You have real problems within yourself if you think having sex with a child is OK - IT IS NOT. The law defines the age of consent - not you or Sisqo.
So you think that if a child wears a swimsuit, short skirt or whatever that it means adult men can choose to have sex with them because of it - what you're suggesting is disgusting.
WTF. You trying to justify child rape. What planet do you live on Stacey?
Underage is underage, a child is a child. End of.
What happens 'every single day' and what is that supposed to mean?
How come you are so versed in pedo excuses?
It is not 'tabloid garbage' (you wish it was don't you stacey). lol.
It is the judgement of a court of law that has found Sisqo guilty of sex with a child and making that child pregnant at 14 years old. IT IS LEGAL FACT.
Erm... first of all... I'm not Stacey.
You've completely misunderstood my post. I'm not 'justifying child rape', I'm saying that if you've seen the way girls dress then it's very easy to think that they're alot older than they are. I have in no way said that I condone paedophilia.
Marten
19-01-2010, 10:36 PM
I don't know if it interests anyone, but according to a this webpage
http://www.20min.ch/unterhaltung/people/story/16374547
Sisqo was performing in this club
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yXxd-Ku5XPI
It seems that the club was frequently visited by high-school kids, but I haven't found any information on what the age limit was that particular evening. Honestly, it really doesn't matter. A kid is a kid is a kid. However, if the place was in fact open for youngsters, Sisqo should definitely have known better.
MojoNixon
20-01-2010, 05:58 AM
Erm... first of all... I'm not Stacey.
You've completely misunderstood my post. I'm not 'justifying child rape', I'm saying that if you've seen the way girls dress then it's very easy to think that they're alot older than they are. I have in no way said that I condone paedophilia.
No wonder that you are Michael Jackson fan....
Why are Ch4 paying a pedo (and yes that what he is - a Swiss court stated he IS the father of a child of a girl that he had sex with when she was only 14 years old - a child) to be on TV?
What next, Gary Glitter?
Why are people ignoring the FACT that Sisqo has been judged in a court of law to have had sex with a child.
he got named as father because he never showed up to court. doesnt actually mean hes Blood-related.
hennessy
20-01-2010, 09:46 AM
Lemo if someone accused me of sleeping with an underage girl I would do everything in my power to disprove it, the fact he keeps running from these court summons is to me an ommision of guilt. just because you haven't been caught doesn't mean you're not guilty
Stacey.
20-01-2010, 09:49 AM
Erm... first of all... I'm not Stacey.
:joker:
:xyxwave:
BlackOrWhite
20-01-2010, 12:32 PM
No wonder that you are Michael Jackson fan....
I'm not even gonna' start on that so don't bring that **** in here.
:joker:
:xyxwave:
:hugesmile: :joker:
PaulyJ
20-01-2010, 01:15 PM
First and For most MojoNixon please pretend i am not here.
Gary Glitter is one thing Sisqo is another, sticking the two in the same box and labelling it Pedo, well wtf for if we we're to list the specific crimes of Gary Glitter he're and compare it to Sisqo's story then we would be in no doubt that we are talking about different things.
The girl looks about 15 to me in that photo of her, if she's at a club, dressed up to look 18 which i assume she would of been, then only Sisqo knows what Sisqo saw, but sadly the law cannot take into account what he says he saw only what he is convicted of doing, and if he is convicted of sleeping with a 14 yr old girl he should be jailed.
Best case scenario is he assumed she was of age given the situation they we're both in
Worst case Scenario, He thought she looked 15 but thought he'd get away with it.
Stupid comparisons with Gary Glitter are foolish and only serve to muddy the waters turning an truly uncertain situation into a falsely certain one so as to heap Hell on an individual tagged by a label we love to hate.
Stacey.
20-01-2010, 01:16 PM
:hugesmile: :joker:
LOL :D haha
Niamh.
20-01-2010, 01:19 PM
First and For most MojoNixon please pretend i am not here.
Gary Glitter is one thing Sisqo is another, sticking the two in the same box and labelling it Pedo, well wtf for if we we're to list the specific crimes of Gary Glitter he're and compare it to Sisqo's story then we would be in no doubt that we are talking about different things.
The girl looks about 15 to me in that photo of her, if she's at a club, dressed up to look 18 which i assume she would of been, then only Sisqo knows what Sisqo saw, but sadly the law cannot take into account what he says he saw only what he is convicted of doing, and if he is convicted of sleeping with a 14 yr old girl he should be jailed.
Best case scenario is he assumed she was of age given the situation they we're both in
Worst case Scenario, He thought she looked 15 but thought he'd get away with it.
Stupid comparisons with Gary Glitter are foolish and only serve to muddy the waters turning an truly uncertain situation into a falsely certain one so as to heap Hell on an individual tagged by a label we love to hate.
Yes, exactly. There is a big difference between preying on a child because you find chilrden attractive (which is what peadohiles do) and mistaking someone who was trying to look older for being older. Remember Sisqo was not much older than a teenager himself then.
bananarama
20-01-2010, 01:31 PM
If he thought she was an adult then he is not at fault.......If he knew or suspected she was not an adult then he is guilty of breaking societies rules........
The problem with calling people padoe's is that mother nature (not cultural decisions) decides what is normal and not normal. The fact is mother nature prepares what we call children for procreation long before society agrees it to be right......
Stacey.
20-01-2010, 01:32 PM
i wish this thread could be closed :bawling:
Yes, exactly. There is a big difference between preying on a child because you find chilrden attractive (which is what peadohiles do) and mistaking someone who was trying to look older for being older. Remember Sisqo was not much older than a teenager himself then.
Agree Niamh ,but I still think he should submit a DNA sample and let this child know if Sisqo is his farther or not.Of course I understand why he wouldn't want to as if he is proven to be the farther then I am sure he has been advised he could face prosecution .
but his plan at the moment of ignoring it and hoping it goes away is not working..I for one did not know about this until he entered the CBB house as I guess is the same with others .It really pisses me of the fact that he knows he may have a son and does fcuk all about it.
Niamh.
20-01-2010, 01:34 PM
If he thought she was an adult then he is not at fault.......If he knew or suspected she was not an adult then he is guilty of breaking societies rules........
The problem with calling people padoe's is that mother nature (not cultural decisions) decides what is normal and not normal. The fact is mother nature prepares what we call children for procreation long before society agrees it to be right......
The law is the law but alot of times these cases aren't very black and white. I mean If a 16 year old boy sleeps with a 15 year old girl does that make him a paedophile?? He is breaking the law after all.......................
Niamh.
20-01-2010, 01:36 PM
Agree Niamh ,but I still think he should submit a DNA sample and let this child know if Sisqo is his farther or not.Of course I understand why he wouldn't want to as if he is proven to be the farther then I am sure he has been advised he could face prosecution .
but his plan at the moment of ignoring it and hoping it goes away is not working..I for one did not know about this until he entered the CBB house as I guess is the same with others .It really pisses me of the fact that he knows he may have a son and does fcuk all about it.
Yeah, you're right absolutely, my real issue here was only with people who were saying he was the same if not worse than Gary Glitter which is just crazy
Yeah, you're right absolutely, my real issue here was only with people who were saying he was the same if not worse than Gary Glitter which is just crazy
Yeah ,Sisqo may have made a bad decision but he is no Gary Glitter.
Now if there was a string of minors coming forward that's another story..but this seems to be a one off.
He still though should man up and do the right thing.
Niamh.
20-01-2010, 01:47 PM
Yeah ,Sisqo may have made a bad decision but he is no Gary Glitter.
Now if there was a string of minors coming forward that's another story..but this seems to be a one off.
He still though should man up and do the right thing.
yes he should definately.
hennessy
20-01-2010, 01:49 PM
If it is proved that it is his child or if he did have sex with her than he will be guilty of statutory rape.
And also the American age of consent is 18, you may argue that he was in a different country and was just outside of their age of consent but could you forgive a man if he went to Thailand to sleep with young girls?
I'm not calling him a paedo (a nonce maybe) but I think he thought he could get away with it
bananarama
20-01-2010, 01:54 PM
The law is the law but alot of times these cases aren't very black and white. I mean If a 16 year old boy sleeps with a 15 year old girl does that make him a paedophile?? He is breaking the law after all.......................
Indeed that's what I was implying about mother nature and societies laws being out of line with reality....
If a 16 year old fancies a 15 year old is he going change his fancies when he reaches the age of lets say 18!!!! When mother nature gives off sexuality it knows no age but the age of attraction.....
I think real paedo's are the ones that go for pre- puberty kids........They should be executed......
Marten
20-01-2010, 01:56 PM
The law is the law but alot of times these cases aren't very black and white. I mean If a 16 year old boy sleeps with a 15 year old girl does that make him a paedophile?? He is breaking the law after all.......................
I know that in swedish law there are exceptions if both are similar in age. There probably exist similar exceptions in other countries. In Ukraine there is not real age of consent. They instead talk about sexual maturity, that in practise can be anything between 14 and 16. Maybe that makes more sense. However, it opens up the problem of how to define maturity.
bananarama
20-01-2010, 02:02 PM
The law is an ass if it does not take the laws of nature into account as well.......
If a child has sex with another child then both are paedoe's.........
When I was in my early teens at school I fancied females but not fellow children...I fancied adult women as far as I can recall.........And never looked back....:hugesmile:
CaudleHalbard
20-01-2010, 02:04 PM
In Spain, the age of consent is 13.
Sisqo would have been OK if he had chosen his country more carefully! :joker:
hennessy
20-01-2010, 02:07 PM
bananarama society has changed, there is no excuse for underage sex among an adult and an adolescent. We're not animals.
Marten there shouldn't be exceptions, surely they should show some restraint
If a 16 and a 15 year old has sex than the 16 year old will be giulty of statutory rape, it's the law
bananarama
20-01-2010, 02:13 PM
bananarama society has changed, there is no excuse for underage sex among an adult and an adolescent. We're not animals.
Marten there shouldn't be exceptions, surely they should show some restraint
If a 16 and a 15 year old has sex than the 16 year old will be giulty of statutory rape, it's the law
Sorry to burst your fantacy bubble. But yes we are animals.......We hunt like them. We breed like them. We are part of mother nature and the entire life on this planet...
Problem is so many humans like to delude themselves into thinking we are not as primitive as animals. We are........Face reality.......We have laws that defy reality thats a fact but does not make it right in the eyes of nature....
Niamh.
20-01-2010, 02:14 PM
bananarama society has changed, there is no excuse for underage sex among an adult and an adolescent. We're not animals.
Marten there shouldn't be exceptions, surely they should show some restraint
If a 16 and a 15 year old has sex than the 16 year old will be giulty of statutory rape, it's the law
It is the law, fair enough but it doesn't make that 16 year old the same as someone like Gary Glitter - That's all I'm saying!!
hennessy
20-01-2010, 02:24 PM
Niamhxo I don't disagree
and bananaram you sound sick trying to justify this.
My fanciful bubble? Like NOT wanting to sleep with 14 year old girls?
How do we hunt like animals? Never have I seen an animal flicking through a Ikea catalogue, we don't breed like them as I prefer reverse cowboy (I've never seen an animal do that, no matter how many time I go).
We are animals but we don't have to act like animals.
Now I'm going to go now and lick my nuts
BB_Eye
20-01-2010, 02:58 PM
It is the law, fair enough but it doesn't make that 16 year old the same as someone like Gary Glitter - That's all I'm saying!!
Gary Glitter is simply programmed that way. He is an abuser who gained gratification by downloading images of child rape and deserves to be regarded as evil.
The comparisons with Sisqo border on witchhunting and he doesn't deserve to be compared to serial predators like Glitter, but that still shouldn't let him off the hook and he has not done himself any favours refusing the DNA test. He more or less admitted to his guilt in doing this. Sisqo is not above the law and blaming this incident on the injured party (she shouldn't have been in the club, etc, etc) as another poster correctly pointed out, is a paedo's defence.
Zippy
20-01-2010, 03:08 PM
Gary Glitter is simply programmed that way. He is an abuser who gained gratification by downloading images of child rape and deserves to be regarded as evil.
And the rest!!
He gained gratification by constant visits to certain countries(over numerous years) and having sex with God knows how many children. I can't even bare to think how young some of them were.
Comparing Sisqo to him is just disgraceful. Glitter is a monstrous predator.
Marten
20-01-2010, 03:39 PM
We should just forget that Glitter thing, at least in this discussion. An even worse wrong, does not make a wrong right. Sisqo broke the law in Switzerland and that was wrong. Given the circumstances, he might have been able to ditch a jail sentence, but the circumstances can never turn the blame on someone else. The fact that refused to provide a DNA sample is what troubles me the most.
Ghostinthehouse
21-01-2010, 01:24 AM
Gary Glitter is simply programmed that way. He is an abuser who gained gratification by downloading images of child rape and deserves to be regarded as evil.
Sisqo has not done himself any favours refusing the DNA test. He more or less admitted to his guilt in doing this. Sisqo is not above the law and blaming this incident on the injured party (she shouldn't have been in the club, etc, etc) as another poster correctly pointed out, is a paedo's defence.
Sisqo knows that if he has a DNA test he will have to pay towards the upkeep of his own kid.
People are always going on about run away Dads who refuse to pay towards their kids, and there is Sisqo with all his cash (boasting on CBB, not to mention the money he is getting for CBB) and still refusing to pay to raise his own kid leaving it to the taxpayer to pay for the upkeep of his kid instead.
Shasown
21-01-2010, 01:33 AM
Niamhxo I don't disagree
and bananaram you sound sick trying to justify this.
My fanciful bubble? Like NOT wanting to sleep with 14 year old girls?
How do we hunt like animals? Never have I seen an animal flicking through a Ikea catalogue, we don't breed like them as I prefer reverse cowboy (I've never seen an animal do that, no matter how many time I go).
We are animals but we don't have to act like animals.
Now I'm going to go now and lick my nuts
If you hold a small dog or a chicken just right you can do them reverse cowboy.
Cats two probably, Hamsters you have to tape up with duct tape, coz they split.
Shasown
21-01-2010, 01:39 AM
Sisqo knows that if he has a DNA test he will have to pay towards the upkeep of his own kid.
People are always going on about run away Dads who refuse to pay towards their kids, and there is Sisqo with all his cash (boasting on CBB, not to mention the money he is getting for CBB) and still refusing to pay to raise his own kid leaving it to the taxpayer to pay for the upkeep of his kid instead.
You are are missing the main point of his refusal, if he is found to be the father through a DNA test then he can be charged with sex with a minor/statutory rape. Once paternity has been proven criminal charges can then be prepared. The Swiss can then apply for his extradition because thats a criminal offence but at the moment they cant because its a civil paternity suit its down to the fact he refused the DNA test because he is probably the father.
dollypeg
21-01-2010, 01:51 AM
so does that mean sisqo was 21 at the time?can hardly compare him with a 60 odd YO scumbag.i doubt very very much he was aware of her age, doesnt strike me as being that stupid/immoral.
Shasown
21-01-2010, 01:58 AM
so does that mean sisqo was 21 at the time?can hardly compare him with a 60 odd YO scumbag.i doubt very very much he was aware of her age, doesnt strike me as being that stupid/immoral.
Am not judging him on that. I do think he is a bit spineless not either paying without admitting or providing a dna sample to either rule himself out or proving he is.
Why do you think he wont give a dna sample?
MojoNixon
21-01-2010, 06:39 AM
Funny how there are those few persons who try to justify Siqos act....
Then your interpretation of the posts is all ballsed up.
They aren't trying to 'justify' what he done, merely helpfully pointing out that Sisqo is not in fact coming for your children.
MojoNixon
21-01-2010, 06:54 AM
Then your interpretation of the posts is all ballsed up.
They aren't trying to 'justify' what he done, merely helpfully pointing out that Sisqo is not in fact coming for your children.
Yes he will.
hennessy
21-01-2010, 08:20 AM
If you hold a small dog or a chicken just right you can do them reverse cowboy.
Cats two probably, Hamsters you have to tape up with duct tape, coz they split.
never have I been so disgusted and strangley turned on in all my life.
Shasown
21-01-2010, 10:19 AM
never have I been so disgusted and strangley turned on in all my life.
That may be because you are one sick individual :joker:
MojoNixon
21-01-2010, 10:21 AM
Sisqo did nothing wrong (at least Nimxhao says so) so go away everyone. Thank you.
Ghostinthehouse
23-01-2010, 01:07 AM
Funny how there are those few persons who try to justify Siqos act....
By 'funny' you mean disgusting!
Athleticguy29uk
23-01-2010, 01:13 AM
Peadophile.....shoot the ****...and glitter!
Anyone who sais there not are probably into kids aswell!
Peadophile.....shoot the ****...and glitter!
Anyone who sais there not are probably into kids aswell!
A paedophile [or Pedophile], to help you out with your spelling, is someone who shows an ongoing, consistent sexual attraction to children. Not a young, drunk idiot who slept with a 14 year old dressed up to look much older because ... well ... he was an idiot and he made a stupid mistake.
There has been no evidence since then in any way to prove that he is in fact a full blown paedophile. It's like me calling your fantasy **** Vinnie Jones a wifebeater or a violent thug. Sisqo's not the only one who has made some mistakes, is he?
Athleticguy29uk
23-01-2010, 01:27 AM
You've obviously never had much experience with girls!
When clubbing me and my friend's can INSTANTLY spot the underage one's when they try talking to any of us,wether they look there age or not,and no matter how drunk we are.
They just stand out a mile.
Ghostinthehouse
23-01-2010, 01:28 AM
A paedophile [or Pedophile], to help you out with your spelling, is someone who shows an ongoing, consistent sexual attraction to children. Not a young, drunk idiot who slept with a 14 year old dressed up to look much older because ... well ... he was an idiot and he made a stupid mistake.
WRONG.
A paedophile isn't like a frequent shopper card where you collect points and only 'become' a paedophile after your have had sex with five kids. If an adult has had sex with a child they ARE a paedo. Also, you are overlooking the fact that the only reason this girl got to court against Sisqo is that she has the DNA evidence of the child to prove he had sex with her. All the other girls 'after gigs', etc. have never come to court. Or are you stupid enough to think Sisqo only ever picked up one girl like that in his whole life? LOL.
And here is a definition to help you grasp the concept.
Sisqo was attracted to the 14 year old girl sexually so he IS a paedo. Simple.
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/paedophile
Sisqo's not the only one who has made some mistakes, is he?
Is there something you're trying to tell us about yourself that we'd rather not know Judas?
You've obviously never had much experience with girls!
When clubbing me and my friend's can INSTANTLY spot the underage one's when they try talking to any of us,wether they look there age or not,and no matter how drunk we are.
They just stand out a mile.
Good for you. It's a shame you don't appy those same braincells you use to spot peoples age when it comes to using the internet.
Athleticguy29uk
23-01-2010, 01:31 AM
Good for you. It's a shame you don't appy those same braincells you use to spot peoples age when it comes to using the internet.
Shame u still live with ure mom and dont have a life!
Shame u still live with ure mom and dont have a life!
And you base all of this on what?
Oh yeah, nothing. I'm not the one slagging off nineteen year olds for still living with there family at two in the morning. Where's your marvellous life?
insults removed - Darenn
Athleticguy29uk
23-01-2010, 01:33 AM
WRONG.
A paedophile isn't like a frequent shopper card where you collect points and only 'become' a paedophile after your have had sex with five kids. If an adult has had sex with a child they ARE a paedo. Also, you are overlooking the fact that the only reason this girl got to court against Sisqo is that she has the DNA evidence of the child to prove he had sex with her. All the other girls 'after gigs', etc. have never come to court. Or are you stupid enough to think Sisqo only ever picked up one girl like that in his whole life? LOL.
And here is a definition to help you grasp the concept.
Sisqo was attracted to the 14 year old girl sexually so he IS a paedo. Simple.
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/paedophile
Is there something you're trying to tell us about yourself that we'd rather not know Judas?
Woops...and there was Judas thinking he was all intelligent and king of these forums because he lives here! lol doh! :joker:.
Athleticguy29uk
23-01-2010, 01:35 AM
You started on me for no reason...dont dish it if u cant take it, peedo lover!
I live here now? And how did you come to that conclusion darling?
Athleticguy29uk
23-01-2010, 01:39 AM
I live here now? And how did you come to that conclusion darling?
to post about 12,000 posts or so u would of had to spend a hell of alot of time here, and u told me earlier u come on everyday for 3 years!
double doh! :joker:
Now leave those children alone! :nono:
Is there something you're trying to tell us about yourself that we'd rather not know Judas?
Yes.
insult removed - Darenn
You have no proof that either
A) Sisqo knew she was underage.
or ...
B) Sisqo has done the same thing with other kids.
Especially for point B, you are basing this purely on assumption.
And AthleticGuy, I think you will find you started on me first when you made mention to the fact that anybody who thinks Sisqo is not a paedo is a paedo themselves. I take that as a personal insult. You essentialy called me, like this **** I am quoting, a paedophile. That's called starting on someone, sweetie. People actually take offence to being called a paedophile - believe it or not.
to post about 12,000 posts or so u would of had to spend a hell of alot of time here, and u told me earlier u come on everyday for 3 years!
double doh! :joker:
Now leave those children alone! :nono:
Yeah. Because I use the internet everyday. People do that you know. It's not that uncommon.
How dare you call me a paedophile? You claim to be an intelligent, grown adult with a life full of wonders and you are sitting here at quater to three in the morning calling me a paedophile?
How do you rationalize that? I mean ... how do you defend that?
Get ****ed. I hope you make it to the family gravesite sooner rather than later.
[Edit : I know I'm getting angsty here, but the reason outweights the rules of this forum IMO, so it had to be done.]
Athleticguy29uk
23-01-2010, 01:55 AM
How do i defend it?
Simple......im not tired and as its 3 am ive nothing better to do!
Now stop tugging ure little willy over sisqos girlfriend or ill report u!
So when you have nothing better to do you like to talk about teeangers wanking over other teenagers?
Right.
Athleticguy29uk
23-01-2010, 01:56 AM
And here i was thinking u was intelligent...ure about as intelligent as pissing into the wind. lol
You can't type. You can't spell. You can't answer anything anybody else has posted properly without going off into a tangent about something entirely different.
You have no right to talk about anybody elses intelligence. If you really are an adult you should be absoloutely ashamed of yourself. Fortunately for the human race you are not an adult. You are an ignorant, twelve year old bully trapped inside a frame of muscle.
You will be eaten alive and banned on this website in a matter of days. Then you can go back to your fantastic social life with a vaccant grin on your face, content in the knowledge that you are 'intelligent'.
Athleticguy29uk
23-01-2010, 02:06 AM
so i dont have the rite to insult others intelligence but the oh great mighty Judas does?
Slagging someone beacuse they dont type correct is very iggnorant and judgmental,after all Albert Einstein was riddled with things but he was the most intelligent man in the world.
not an intelligent thing to do!
And just beacuse someone doesnt type proper doesnt stop them being a sucess in life. my job and pay is fantastic, earn more than u and im apparantly less intelligent! lol
Athleticguy29uk
23-01-2010, 02:08 AM
Anyway ill leave u to it numbnut im off to bed. =D
kiss kiss kiss xxx
so i dont have the rite to insult others intelligence but the oh great mighty Judas does?
Slagging someone beacuse they dont type correct is very iggnorant and judgmental,after all Albert Einstein was riddled with things but he was the most intelligent man in the world.
not an intelligent thing to do!
And just beacuse someone doesnt type proper doesnt stop them being a sucess in life. my job and pay is fantastic, earn more than u and im apparantly less intelligent! lol
Why do you keep mentioning your job? I'm nineteen years old. Of course you are going to be making more money than me. Money is in no way tied to intelligence. A lot of silly people get rich.
And that's why you are in no position to talk about intelligence.
Do you think talking about teenagers wanking each other off and calling strangers paedos at three in the morning is an intelligent thing to do? Yes or no?
Athleticguy29uk
23-01-2010, 02:12 AM
and u make fun of me saying i cant spell!
tripple doh for u! lmao
anyway bed! lol
Yeah. Because you can't spell.
Now prove your almighty intelligence by answering the points I raised above. If you are so intelligent it should be no problem to you. You should be able to answer the points like a pro. Like why you think it's intelligent to be talking about teenagers wanking at three in the morning. Or why you feel you are better because you make more money than a ninteen year old. Or because said nineteen year old still lives with his family - which is pretty common as far as nineteen year olds go.
Athleticguy29uk
23-01-2010, 02:21 AM
Do i think its intelligent calling u a peado beacuse your a peado lover and favour sisqo?
Its not intelligent but if you favour a peado your looking for trouble,just the way it goes.
And all this is 3 am, i cant sleep nothing else to do,and im entertaining myself by winding u up on purpose and watching u ( being oh so intelligent as u are) FALL FOR IT! lmao
its not bothering me in the slightest,im giggling away at winding u up and ure taking what someone else sais over the internet serious. lol seriously if u take what people say over the net serious u realy need to get out more.
but if u was intelligent as u keep making out u would of realised all this to begin with! lol
Athleticguy29uk
23-01-2010, 02:22 AM
oh and check ure spelling...its "peado" not "paedo"
doh!
ure being taught to spell by someone who cant spell now,whatever next!
InOne
23-01-2010, 02:23 AM
Do i think its intelligent calling u a peado beacuse your a peado lover and favour sisqo?
Its not intelligent but if you favour a peado your looking for trouble,just the way it goes.
And all this is 3 am, i cant sleep nothing else to do,and im entertaining myself by winding u up on purpose and watching u ( being oh so intelligent as u are) FALL FOR IT! lmao
its not bothering me in the slightest,im giggling away at winding u up and ure taking what someone else sais over the internet serious. lol seriously if u take what people say over the net serious u realy need to get out more.
but if u was intelligent as u keep making out u would of realised all this to begin with! lol
Are you seriously 29? O.o
InOne
23-01-2010, 02:23 AM
oh and check ure spelling...its "peado" not "paedo"
doh!
ure being taught to spell by someone who cant spell now,whatever next!
No it is 'Paedophile'
setanta
23-01-2010, 02:24 AM
Are you seriously 29? O.o
Age - yes, IQ - possibly. Don't know why he's continuing with this shite to be honest with you.
Athleticguy29uk
23-01-2010, 02:26 AM
Genuine IQ of 130 to 132. =D
Athleticguy29uk
23-01-2010, 02:27 AM
Average is 100 btw! =D
oh and check ure spelling...its "peado" not "paedo"
doh!
ure being taught to spell by someone who cant spell now,whatever next!
No. It's not. It's Paedophile or Pedophile. They are the two accepted spellings.
Who said I was taking you seriously? Why on earth would I take you seriously? I'm replying to these posts same as you are.
You can't answer all my points, which is why you had to bring in the classic 'It's a wind up and it's worked on you' line to redeem something from this.
If anything it's me winding you up. Didin't you say you were going to bed like twenty minuets ago?
Get going, sport!
James
23-01-2010, 02:28 AM
Thread is now just an argument so locking.
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