Anyone know poker? FAO Mark...evidently... :)

[Vicky.]

How normal is it to be screwed over with pocket aces 11 times in an hour and a half?!

This is, other people having the aces, and hitting trips 8 times out if the 11...

[Vicky.]

AND AGAIN.

FFs thats 3 in a row now...


Was 200 quid up, only started with a tenner...now have nowt.

William hill does NOT use RNGs...not possible

[InOne]

What site do you go on? Do you do tornaments or just cash tables?

[Vicky.]

What site do you go on? Do you do tornaments or just cash tables?

Cash tables, and it was william hill.


Im positive that the odds of that happening are like a million to one...just the way it happened, straight after each other, as soon as I hit £200 profit...plus all the trips...am still so pissed off now. Played like 5 hours to get that money.

[InOne]

Cash tables, and it was william hill.


Im positive that the odds of that happening are like a million to one...just the way it happened, straight after each other, as soon as I hit £200 profit...plus all the trips...am still so pissed off now. Played like 5 hours to get that money.

Bad luck :S Cash tables are pretty risky though really, but you got very unlucky

[Vicky.]

Bad luck :S Cash tables are pretty risky though really, but you got very unlucky

Makes me question the RNG though...it just seems so...impossible, for it to happen that much in such a short time, Ive had my share of bad beats, I know they happen, but I have never ever seen anything like that in my life.

[InOne]

Makes me question the RNG though...it just seems so...impossible, for it to happen that much in such a short time, Ive had my share of bad beats, I know they happen, but I have never ever seen anything like that in my life.

You gonna complain?

[danda012]

That sounds almost rigged. Luck like that just isn't right..

[Vicky.]

You gonna complain?

Not sure...doubt it would do much good to be honest

Theyl just BS on about how their software is fair and that

[Vicky.]

That sounds almost rigged. Luck like that just isn't right..

Yeah... I know. Gavs just woke up and said the same also, but not in those words

'********* fix that is, stay the **** off that site'

lol

[danda012]

Do the other players get like loyals loads or like you have a flush and they have two-pair and they only have one out on the river (assuming Texas Hold'Em is the game) and they hit it?

[InOne]

Not sure...doubt it would do much good to be honest

Theyl just BS on about how their software is fair and that

I used to go in Pacific Poker $30 tornaments, only had to finish in the top 3 about of 10, used to make quite a bit.

[Vicky.]

you have a flush and they have two-pair and they only have one out on the river (assuming Texas Hold'Em is the game) and they hit it?

That happened a questionable amount of times too thinking about it...but didnt stand out as much as this million pocket aces s***....as it was spread out, and I know that that happens.

[danda012]

That happened a questionable amount of times too thinking about it...but didnt stand out as much as this million pocket aces s***....as it was spread out, and I know that that happens.

Royal Flushes are supposed to be very rare.. If you are seeing them often then something is definately wrong.

[lily.]

You should ask Mark about it.. he's the professional Poker player.. :thumbs:

[Vicky.]

Royal Flushes are supposed to be very rare.. If you are seeing them often then something is definately wrong.

I was playing for about 5/6 hours, and saw 4 royal flushes that I remember.

[Vicky.]

You should ask Mark about it.. he's the professional Poker player.. :thumbs:

Is he? God, I dont know anything on here...

[Novo]

Mark aint a proffessional is he LOL!

Thought it was just a hobby

[lily.]

Mark is a pro.

http://speedrunwiki.com/Mark (http://speedrunwiki.com/Mark_Rayson)

http://archive.oxfordmail.net/2007/6/28/163253.html

http://www.pokerpages.com/players/profiles/94244/mark-r.htm

[Vicky.]

Mark is a pro.

http://speedrunwiki.com/Mark (http://speedrunwiki.com/Mark_Rayson)

Is that actually mark?!

If so, Ive seen him on telly before :S

[lily.]

Yes, that's actually Mark.

How do you not know this? LoL..


[edit: Just realised you have only been here for 6 months.. that explains it.. I always assumed you'd been around for years]

[Novo]

Professional Poker is the **** they play on Channel 5

The Elite is the home to speed run competition for GoldenEye 007 and Perfect Dark.

Wouldn't call that pro

:joker:

[lily.]

I call it 'pro' if someone can make enough money to live on by playing it.

[InOne]

He looks well different on that pic

[\PJ/]

Mark is a pro.

http://speedrunwiki.com/Mark_Rayson

http://archive.oxfordmail.net/2007/6/28/163253.html

stand back people and please welcome POKER MARK!!!!!!!!!!

*poker face plays and arista and jayson fan mark with feathers as he walks in to start playing*

[lily.]

He looks well different on that pic


I don't think he does tbh.


edit to add: LoL PJ.

[Vicky.]

Yes, that's actually Mark.

How do you not know this? LoL..


[edit: Just realised you have only been here for 6 months.. that explains it.. I always assumed you'd been around for years]

I knew he played from his facebook...but didnt realise how serious he was about it...and didnt realise Id seen him on tv before...looks loads different in shades :)

[lily.]

I dunno if he was on TV, but I did know he makes enough from playing to not have to work full-time, so I'd say it's more than just a hobby lol.

[Novo]

He hasn't been on tv surely

Bravo ameatur Poker Championships....

[\PJ/]

****ing hell he played for 12 mil.

[Vicky.]

I dunno if he was on TV, but I did know he makes enough from playing to not have to work full-time, so I'd say it's more than just a hobby lol.

I have definitely seen him on tv somewhere, Im sure of it. That picture is so familiar...was a couple of years back though I think...

[InOne]

I'm sure he'll pop in with a informative post lol

[lily.]

I was just about to say that Joe. He'll no doubt grace us with his presence to clarify all this at some point.. LoL

[Novo]

****ing hell he played for 12 mil.

Dont be silly PJ

[\PJ/]

Dont be silly PJ

He did it says it in that article LOL

[Vicky.]

Dont be silly PJ

Poker player Mark Rayson is hoping to come back from Las Vegas with some duty-free in his luggage - a staggering $12m.

Mr Rayson, 21, a computer science student at Oxford Brookes University, has got lucky by winning a place at the table in the world's biggest poker tournament.

He will be one of 6,000 contestants using skill and bluffing ability to try to win the World Series of Poker, which begins next Thursday

http://archive.oxfordmail.net/2007/6/28/163253.html

[Novo]

To much sillyness here

£12,000 not 12 Mil

a silly mistake from the oxford mail

[\PJ/]

If he would have won that we wouldn't all be here now LOL

[Vicky.]

To much sillyness here

£12,000 not 12 Mil

a silly mistake from the oxford mail

Was a 10k entry fee....

Also says that in the article.



"I have won $10,000 as my stake from pokerstars.com and they are also giving me $1,000 for travel expenses and paying for a week's accommodation if I wear a T-shirt with their logo on

[\PJ/]

pppoker mark ppoker mark muh muh muh

[Novo]

Was a 10k+ entry fee....

Also says that in the article.

Another silly mistake it was £10

[lily.]

Here's the winner table:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2007_World_Series_of_Poker_results


Andy, you're a bloody wind-up..

[Vicky.]

Another silly mistake it was £10

:laugh: Ok then :p

[danda012]

To much sillyness here

£12,000 not 12 Mil

a silly mistake from the oxford mail

If the article means the World Series of Poker Main Event then yes $12,000,000 sounds correct. That has a $10,000 and i think only the top 500 or something cash. If he DID enter, he either made the low money or went out before the "money".

[\PJ/]

danda012 you crazy cat.

[Novo]

PJ take on Mark at Poker and beat him

[lily.]

'Snap' is PJ's game... nobody can beat the snapmaster PJ!

http://i47.tinypic.com/33jo9zn.gif

[danda012]

danda012 you crazy cat.

I forgot that 2007 just happened to be the year the changed the prize money around. The year before, the top 12 were all millionaires guaranteed but the next year, it got changed so that the prize was more leveled out. I think only top 4-5 won over $1m in the 2007 tournament.

[InOne]

Technically we could all find a table online. I'm game for a TiBB Poker match. £20's in. BOOOM Or less more, i'm easy.

[\PJ/]

Actually im a fireball when it comes to garden bowls,all the over 60's are **** scared of me,they call me THUNDERBOLT P

[lily.]

My reasons for not doing this are twofold..

1. I can't play poker for ****..
2. I don't have £20..

[InOne]

PJ NOVO Vicky and Mark seem game

[danda012]

Depends on what version we play :tongue:

[InOne]

What do you play Danda? lol

[Vicky.]

I can only play holdem

And I wont have any more money til saturday...possibly tomorrow but cant promise :p

[Novo]

Technically we could all find a table online. I'm game for a TiBB Poker match. £20's in. BOOOM Or less more, i'm easy.

Count me in

Could do with some easy money

[danda012]

What do you play Danda? lol

Mainly know good old Hold'em. I used to sorta know how to play 7 Card Stud but i can't remember now. I sound crazy but i kinda wanted to try Razz too.

[InOne]

Count me in

Could do with some easy money

Wheyyyyyyy lol fighting talk

It does not have to be £20 that was just random

[danda012]

I can only play holdem

And I wont have any more money til saturday...possibly tomorrow but cant promise :p

We could always find a free site temporarly. I dunno if I'd be in for the bet game though :(

[\PJ/]

Pppoker pj ppoker pj muh muh muh muh

[InOne]

Mainly know good old Hold'em. I used to sorta know how to play 7 Card Stud but i can't remember now. I sound crazy but i kinda wanted to try Razz too.

Yeah same, most people know Hold em'

[\PJ/]

20 **** dat **** raise it to 50 im not driving.

[Vicky.]

20 **** dat **** raise it to 50 im not driving.

Meh...I have a holiday coming up though, If I lost 50 quid (which I wont :p) Gav would kill me

[danda012]

Find a free table. There are quite a few free sites for Poker where you don't play for real money.

[Vicky.]

Find a free table. There are quite a few free sites for Poker where you don't play for real money.

Not as fun though :D

[InOne]

all sign up to Pacific Poker :D

[danda012]

Not as fun though :D

Heh I'm not much a gambler really :tongue:

[\PJ/]

Thats sites blocked at college inone.

[danda012]

all sign up to Pacific Poker :D

I don't feel like doin a cash game really unfortunately.

[Novo]

Bums

[danda012]

Lol at my anti-virus blocking the site as an ad or something.

[InOne]

Thats sites blocked at college inone.

Best wait till you're at home, you download it

[danda012]

Na I'd rather not play for real money. Not my style really

[\PJ/]

Best wait till you're at home, you download it

;)

[Stu]

I always knew Mark was bluffin with his muffin.

[King Gizzard]

I ll **** you all up at qudditch

[Stu]

I never understood quidditch. I mean, I know it's not real, but the game will never end until the snitch is caught and the person who catches the snitch automatically wins for his team, right, so what's the point in the rest of the game going on? Aint it all just a pointless spectator pleasing backdrop that means nothing?

[King Gizzard]

Yeah you re right

I'd fcking love to be a beater though

[Fom]

I never understood quidditch. I mean, I know it's not real, but the game will never end until the snitch is caught and the person who catches the snitch automatically wins for his team, right, so what's the point in the rest of the game going on? Aint it all just a pointless spectator pleasing backdrop that means nothing?

No I think if you grab the snitch it ends the game, but if your on 10 points and the other team is on 200 points you still wont win, because the snitch is worth 150 points. So its a strategy game for the seeker to put off the other seeker until they have enough points.

[King Gizzard]

They should seriously make a one off quidditch match and air it on tv that would be amazi ng

Gary lineker joined by hagrid and seamus finnigan

[Tom]

To much sillyness here

£12,000 not 12 Mil

a silly mistake from the oxford mail

and if it was 12m he clearly never won it :joker:

[Stu]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quidditch#Muggle_Quidditch

Muggle quidditch. It actually exists.

[Shaun]

I never understood quidditch. I mean, I know it's not real, but the game will never end until the snitch is caught and the person who catches the snitch automatically wins for his team, right, so what's the point in the rest of the game going on? Aint it all just a pointless spectator pleasing backdrop that means nothing?

God you're stupid.

The snitch ends the game, it's only worth 150 points though.

****S SAKE.

and lmfao @ this thread. particularly PJ's offerings.

[Tom]

Not as fun though :D

Go to a proper casino, its so much better when you can see the people face to face rather than over the internet

Plus there was a woman on This Morning who had a gambling addiction due to being online. She couldn't help herself so her brother had to lock her in a room for a while and didn't let her see her kids/go in the internet etc. That could be you :nono: Although if you got to go on This Morning that would be pretty amazing

[Stu]

God you're stupid.

The snitch ends the game, it's only worth 150 points though.

****S SAKE.

and lmfao @ this thread. particularly PJ's offerings.
FINE JEEZ!

I'm going for a ... cry in the forbidden forest.

[Wildcat!]

Go to a proper casino, its so much better when you can see the people face to face rather than over the internet

Plus there was a woman on This Morning who had a gambling addiction due to being online. She couldn't help herself so her brother had to lock her in a room for a while and didn't let her see her kids/go in the internet etc. That could be you :nono: Although if you got to go on This Morning that would be pretty amazing

Straight up1 The casino is a lot more fun. Great atmosphere.

My usual town, probably got the best casinos. Tucson Arizona, in the indian reservations. Awesome casinos.

I only go maybe once a month and plan to blow 2 or $300. And I have an amazing time :)
I cant be asked playing any games over the internet, let alone poker, or card games.
THey do have some nice casinos in London too by the way.

[Wildcat!]

I do have a frined, compltely addicted to gambling online. HE goes to casinos once in a while, but mostly online, unless he has no mney, but then he will find plACES WHere you can just play for chips and real money involved.

You havent seen an addict, until youve seen someone addicted of gambling, or games. Worth than any substance abuse.

[Jords]

Oh no!

I like that Texas Hold'em on facebook.

[sooty]

Na I'd rather not play for real money. Not my style really

Wise.

[sooty]

You havent seen an addict, until youve seen someone addicted of gambling, or games. Worth than any substance abuse.

My husband was (roullet at casino).
If he loses, he wants to win back.
If he wins, he wants to win more.
If he won ten times continuously, he would lose all money (or more) at 11th bet.

If he did not gamble, I could have retired long time ago.

[Mark]

Hiya,

Sorry didn't see this thread, been staying with my gf for a day or two and didn't have much net time.

I don't really understand the question Vicky, but if you ran into ran into aces 11 times in 75 minutes, it's pretty unlucky. It's hard to know exact percentages without seeing hand histories though.

The sites are legit though, I used to do the same in blaming the RNG when I lost money, it's just natural :) I can't be sure for smaller sites, but the big ones like PStars, FullTil, WillHill are definitely regulated by gambling comissions and their software isn't rigged. If you think about it, if they 'were' going to rig a site, it would be in their best interest to make sure players didn't lose all their money to people. They'd make it so money was kept around longer, meaning they can rake it more and make more money. I do have a few trust issues with sites though. A few years ago I was cheated out of anywhere up to $8000 on ultimate bet (google for 'ultimate bet scandal'), money which I never got back. There were accounts which people could see my hole cards, and I lost big money. At the time I thought the site was rigged for sure, as I was losing at a big rate. Then eventually the scandal came out, I think something like 10m+ was taken from players like me, but since the site is regulated and hosted on a small island outside of any formiddable jurisdiction, legal proceeding would be tricky. I think the court case might even still be going on trying to recover and find where the money went.

The thing with poker is, it's a long term game if you're looking to make money. Anything can happen in the short term, and since hundreds of millions of hands are played online every day, weird things are going to happen. I occasionally see things that are ridiculous, but with a fixed set of cards, it's not that impossible. What's important isn't to lose focus when you lose money. If you're getting your money in spots where you're a favourite, if you carry on playing, in the long run you're going to make money.

Andy, yeah I play for a living. I have done ever since I graduated uni, and it's something I'll probably be doing for a while. 2010 is going to be big for me, I'm working my ass off playing 9+ hours a day online, playing 24 tables at a time. Playing about 15,000 hands a day. I should make 6 figures this year :blush:

Thanks Linda for dragging up my info :hugesmile:

[InOne]

You remind of those Geeks Mark (not saying you're a geek) that were maths whizzes and all learnt to count cards and then took millions from vegas. They all got arrested though, but don't think it's illegal here.

[Tom4784]

You remind of those Geeks Mark (not saying you're a geek) that were maths whizzes and all learnt to count cards and then took millions from vegas. They all got arrested though, but don't think it's illegal here.

They did a film about that.

[InOne]

They did a film about that.

Think i've seen some of that actually, but saw the doc on the crime channel lol

[James]

Worked out there that the chance of someone being dealt 2 aces in a 5-player hand is 36-1. So 11 times in half an hour seems pretty unlikely... assuming I have calculated it right (probably haven't :P).

[Vicky.]

I would be pissed if I played on UB at that time :S

Though I dont have the money to lose much really...only play 20 quid at the most usually.

[Z]

Hiya,

Sorry didn't see this thread, been staying with my gf for a day or two and didn't have much net time.

I don't really understand the question Vicky, but if you ran into ran into aces 11 times in 75 minutes, it's pretty unlucky. It's hard to know exact percentages without seeing hand histories though.

The sites are legit though, I used to do the same in blaming the RNG when I lost money, it's just natural :) I can't be sure for smaller sites, but the big ones like PStars, FullTil, WillHill are definitely regulated by gambling comissions and their software isn't rigged. If you think about it, if they 'were' going to rig a site, it would be in their best interest to make sure players didn't lose all their money to people. They'd make it so money was kept around longer, meaning they can rake it more and make more money. I do have a few trust issues with sites though. A few years ago I was cheated out of anywhere up to $8000 on ultimate bet (google for 'ultimate bet scandal'), money which I never got back. There were accounts which people could see my hole cards, and I lost big money. At the time I thought the site was rigged for sure, as I was losing at a big rate. Then eventually the scandal came out, I think something like 10m+ was taken from players like me, but since the site is regulated and hosted on a small island outside of any formiddable jurisdiction, legal proceeding would be tricky. I think the court case might even still be going on trying to recover and find where the money went.

The thing with poker is, it's a long term game if you're looking to make money. Anything can happen in the short term, and since hundreds of millions of hands are played online every day, weird things are going to happen. I occasionally see things that are ridiculous, but with a fixed set of cards, it's not that impossible. What's important isn't to lose focus when you lose money. If you're getting your money in spots where you're a favourite, if you carry on playing, in the long run you're going to make money.

Andy, yeah I play for a living. I have done ever since I graduated uni, and it's something I'll probably be doing for a while. 2010 is going to be big for me, I'm working my ass off playing 9+ hours a day online, playing 24 tables at a time. Playing about 15,000 hands a day. I should make 6 figures this year :blush:

Thanks Linda for dragging up my info :hugesmile:

You sir, are an absolute hero.

I prefer to play Blackjack if I hit the casino; much less complicated and quite good odds on making money if you know what you're doing. One of my friends is much like yourself Mark (although not on such a grand scale!); plays a lot of online poker and plays in a lot of casinos; earns several hundred quid just playing for fun, he's started entering poker tournaments now too.

Good luck with it all this year!

[Ramsay]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quidditch#Muggle_Quidditch

Muggle quidditch. It actually exists.

holy ****

[sooty]

Look

Mark is professinal.

Porker or not porker, guys, please be careful.