Are Charity singles completely selfless?

[InOne]

Do you think all the stars involved are wholeheartedly with the cause or do they like the idea of being seen as a saint and to create the persona of 'the good star'?

[Chels]

no joe i think they're just being nice.

[Tom4784]

A bit of both but there's also the benefit of promotion especially if this Haiti single makes an impact in America. I'd say most of the agendas behind it are that of good will though.

[spitfire]

Why can't they just dig deep into their own pockets without forceing us to listen to this drivel.
I'm surprised Bono hasn't jumped on the bandwagon.

[Beastie]

Why can't they just dig deep into their own pockets without forceing us to listen to this drivel.
I'm surprised Bono hasn't jumped on the bandwagon.

Some of them are digging into their pockets as well. However making a single or an albulm for the benefit of Haiti will raise a hell of a lot of money because a lot of the public want to buy into it.

[InOne]

Why can't they just dig deep into their own pockets without forceing us to listen to this drivel.
I'm surprised Bono hasn't jumped on the bandwagon.

I always thought that really, instead of making a big song and dance about it and murdering a great song, they should just give the money. We're all aware of what has gone on and celebs singing if not going to change our minds if we decide to donate or not.

[InOne]

no joe i think they're just being nice.

Hmmm, probably not as simple as 'being nice'

[Stu]

Why can't they just dig deep into their own pockets without forceing us to listen to this drivel.
I'm surprised Bono hasn't jumped on the bandwagon.
It's called publicity. I imagine Jay-Z donating money in private to Haiti would inspire less people to do the same as him donating in public.

As for the topic question, no doubt it's a mixture. Many people donate to charity and it's not selfless, even if they don't realise it. You may genuinly have the best intentions when you drop a pound in a beggars cup but it's also giving yourself a pat on the back and telling you what a great dude you are.

[Captain.Remy]

Publicity purposes. Don't look any further. A few may be concerned by what's happening (George Clooney for example)

[spitfire]

Some of them are digging into their pockets as well. However making a single or an albulm for the benefit of Haiti will raise a hell of a lot of money because a lot of the public want to buy into it.
Madam Carey could pay for the whole of Haiti to be re built and still have a good few quid in the bank.
The public can still donate without buying the CD.It's not like no one knows it's happened.

[Stu]

Madam Carey could pay for the whole of Haiti to be re built and still have a good few quid in the bank.
The public can still donate without buying the CD.It's not like no one knows it's happened.
Of course they can. But many more will, and HAVE donated as a result of putting on a concert full of celebrities urging them to do so.

[Chels]

Hmmm, probably not as simple as 'being nice'

i'm simple minded so just let me think that :p

[InOne]

i'm simple minded so just let me think that :p

Awww you're not dear. Shush.

[Jessica.]

I think some of them actually do it for the charity but in my opinion most of them take part just for publicity!

[arista]

Do you think all the stars involved are wholeheartedly with the cause or do they like the idea of being seen as a saint and to create the persona of 'the good star'?



Of Course Some Stars
have no choice,
if they are not in this Mega Music Cash in and Help
they can be kicked to the background.

[Vicky.]

Some will be 'being nice'...but I imagine most are doing it for the publicitiy...oooh look at me, Im selfless I did such and such very publicly for charity...

Sceptic? Moi??

[Beastie]

Madam Carey could pay for the whole of Haiti to be re built and still have a good few quid in the bank.
The public can still donate without buying the CD.It's not like no one knows it's happened.

Yeah but most of the public would rather have something back. Most people would rather say spend a tenner on the albulm rather than just give a tenner away, or however much it will be.

[InOne]

Yeah but most of the public would rather have something back. Most people would rather say spend a tenner on the albulm rather than just give a tenner away, or however much it will be.

Does that not say something about the person if they 'want something back' for giving in the first place?

[Beastie]

Some celebrties may want the publicity etc.. but who cares, as long as they are raising money then that is all the matters. I know.. some celebrities could give a lot more.. the public could give a lot more but still millions of pounds has already been made. Celebrities want to still keep millions in their bank because they are used to their lifestyle and the joe average public.. well some could give more but it is wise to save money for yourself because of the recession and well it is good to have a safety net.

[Beastie]

Does that not say something about the person if they 'want something back' for giving in the first place?

Yeah it does.. so in other words celebrities putting on shows etc are pushing some of the public to pay up..

[Vicky.]

but it is wise to save money for yourself because of the recession

Havent you heard?

The recession is over! lol

:dance:

[Beastie]

Havent you heard?

The recession is over! lol

:dance:

Oh I think there was a thread about it earlier.. but erm.. I am not convinced. Anyway like I said the average Joe public want to save money for themselves and if they have families, to support those too. Charity starts at home for most people but yeah you should pat yourself on the back if you contribute a bit.

[Princess]

It depends who they are. I'd like to think TT are doing it just to be nice,cos they're on a holiday atm anyways,so they're not even meant to be working. And I doubt Gary climbed up a mountain just for publicity.

[Beastie]

I think some celebs want to do something different, such as contribute in some kind of down to earth charitable event, which is a change to most of the celebrities busy schedules.

[InOne]

Yeah it does.. so in other words celebrities putting on shows etc are pushing some of the public to pay up..

Not really, as I said, if people are going to give they would do it regardless of what charity singles come out. Singers have a lot less influence than they used to, especially when the single is mixed with reality tv show winners and stars. Also SuBo tinges the whole thing too.

[Beastie]

Not really, as I said, if people are going to give they would do it regardless of what charity singles come out. Singers have a lot less influence than they used to, especially when the single is mixed with reality tv show winners and stars. Also SuBo tinges the whole thing too.

Well obviously if the albulm and singles sell copies then the public have bought into them?

[Smithy]

I think some celebs are very selfless but others such as Simon are only doing it to come across good

[Enid]

This reminds me of the charity system in Waitrose. You shop in their supermarket and they give you a little green token when you pay for your goods. With this token you're supposed to then choose out of three charities which one you think is most deserving of their money. Now I dunno about you, but I think this is just ****ed up. Firstly, we are meant to choose only one out of three good causes? What happens to the other two? Are they kicked to the curb? Secondly, Waitrose can most definitely afford to give out money to charity - all three in fact! This is just a ploy to make them seem more charitable. This is good for their image and that is all they are concerned about. Same could be said for these charity singles too. Oh how lovely of you Cheryl Cole, to donate some of OUR money to Haiti. You must be a very generous person. Oh and I assume you won't be taking any of that money for yourself or using this grandiose gesture to up your profile??

[InOne]

Well obviously if the albulm and singles sell copies then the public have bought into them?

Who knows, guess we'll see, obviously it's a good thing, but I also like to question motives.

[Beastie]

This reminds me of the charity system in Waitrose. You shop in their supermarket and they give you a little green token when you pay for your goods. With this token you're supposed to then choose out of three charities which one you think is most deserving of their money. Now I dunno about you, but I think this is just ****ed up. Firstly, we are meant to choose only one out of three good causes? What happens to the other two? Are they kicked to the curb? Secondly, Waitrose can most definitely afford to give out money to charity - all three in fact! This is just a ploy to make them seem more charitable. This is good for their image and that is all they are concerned about. Same could be said for these charity singles too. Oh how lovely of you Cheryl Cole, to donate some of OUR money to Haiti. You must be a very generous person. Oh and I assume you won't be taking any of that money for yourself or using this grandiose gesture to up your profile??

Lol I see you are a sceptic Enid. You are probably right. However it is all good if it is raising money.. Yes celebrties will end up in our faces even more, pushing their charitable generosity into our faces.

Oh I disagree to that choose a charity at Waitrose.. why not give a third of the money to each of the 3 charities? but hey ho!

[Beastie]

Who knows, guess we'll see, obviously it's a good thing, but I also like to question motives.

Lol yes it it nice to have a discussion about the motives of these fundraises and different theories..

[InOne]

This reminds me of the charity system in Waitrose. You shop in their supermarket and they give you a little green token when you pay for your goods. With this token you're supposed to then choose out of three charities which one you think is most deserving of their money. Now I dunno about you, but I think this is just ****ed up. Firstly, we are meant to choose only one out of three good causes? What happens to the other two? Are they kicked to the curb? Secondly, Waitrose can most definitely afford to give out money to charity - all three in fact! This is just a ploy to make them seem more charitable. This is good for their image and that is all they are concerned about. Same could be said for these charity singles too. Oh how lovely of you Cheryl Cole, to donate some of OUR money to Haiti. You must be a very generous person. Oh and I assume you won't be taking any of that money for yourself or using this grandiose gesture to up your profile??

Yep indeed, I think it is alot more to do with image, how could the 'UK's sweetheart' (That sickens me btw) not be in the single. It's a rather odd mix too I thought which also, gives the 'stars coming together' look. It would be nice to know how much they're giving really. Also it would be nice to know why they feel the need to release an overly patronising song, i'd rather give the money and not buy it. At least I know where it's going.

[arista]

Havent you heard?

The recession is over! lol

:dance:



1% Over.

If you think we are out of this New Labour Depresssion
you are dreaming.

We are going into a Double Dip Zone soon.


A Top Football Club has just gone under
due to banks.

[eye sea]

If they really cared about those unfortunate people, they'd donate money themselves. Instead, they **** about posing in music vids and really they couldn't care less.

They want to take a leaf out of actor John Travolta's book and GO OUT THERE THEMSELVES. John recently flew into the country with his plane full of food and medicine, with doctors and aid workers in tow.

[Enid]

A lot of people don't realise that Simon Cowel only proposed this charity event because Gordon Brown told him to!

[Beastie]

If people are pissed off with these "celebrities" then just don't buy the single. You should not have to feel inclined to purchase it. Celebrties do not personally know who you are anyway.

However the singles/albulm will sell a lot in the younger market.

[InOne]

I think most people, well i'd like to hope so, can see past the shallowness of the whole thing.

[Beastie]

I think most people, well i'd like to hope so, can see past the shallowness of the whole thing.

But most of the public are getting more shallow by the day.. people like Cheryl Cole are just so god damn lucky to be where they are now..

[InOne]

But most of the public are getting more shallow by the day.. people like Cheryl Cole are just so god damn lucky to be where they are now..

Yeah it's ridiculous, also people aspiring to be like her, thinking it all comes so easy.

[Harry!]

Take for example Madonna who sung at the Haiti concert, She donated alot of money to the Haiti charity and actully helps the people in her charity Raising Malawi by building schools plus donates alot of money for her charity too.

A real icon and she sees where her money goes too.

[M X]

both i think.

[Scarlett.]

A bit of both, I think, but only during disasters like this

Though some artists do charity work all the time, but dont go to the length of publicising every little event