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Tom
31-01-2010, 04:11 PM
I hope it doesn't go there, they have a habit of reviving high profile shows, murdering them then axing them after series 2

http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/bigbrother/a200539/five-sky-eye-big-brother-franchise.html

arista
31-01-2010, 04:31 PM
Yes but it 'may' be a Sky Deal
also shown on Five

Like other Sky/Five Special Deals.

Stacey.
31-01-2010, 04:32 PM
Hope it dont go to sky :sad:
but, at least thats better than nothing! :p

Tom
31-01-2010, 04:32 PM
Yes but it 'may' be a Sky Deal
also shown on Five

Like other Sky/Five Special Deals.

such as ....?

Captain.Remy
31-01-2010, 04:33 PM
I don't mind where the hell it goes as long as I can download it.

Tom
31-01-2010, 04:36 PM
I don't mind where the hell it goes as long as I can download it.

Depends how many series' you want. If it goes to Sky there will be a maximum of 2.

Patrick
31-01-2010, 04:36 PM
FIVE Want Celebrity Big Brother

SKY Want Big Brother

Personally, Big Brother is far better than the Celebrity show just because its on all summer and gives us somthing to be excited for instead of a series thats on for 3 weeks.

I hear alot of people dont get Sky so this may harm the ratings, unless its showen on Sky for Sky users and on another channel for Virgin Users if you get me?

Im glad now 2 channels are intrested in it because now there is deffenatly a better chance of BB12 Happening.

I really will love to see the face of all the haters who have said 'Thank god its being axed' and then they would see it on another channel lol

We have 5 months before BB11 which means about 8 Months before Big Brother finishes, lets hope Endemol get a few more offers from other channels, if BB11 Does do well I could see bigger and better channels like ITV being intrested.. it does depend on BB11.

*mazedsalv**
31-01-2010, 04:37 PM
Wow, barely 1 day since it finished and two channels wanting it.

Five is a terrestaral (sp?) channel so its better for ratings and media hype.
Sky is digital, less hype and llower ratings BUT more of a possibility for red button.

Captain.Remy
31-01-2010, 04:38 PM
Depends how many series' you want. If it goes to Sky there will be a maximum of 2.

2 is better than nothing isn't it ? I don't think it could interest BBC nor ITV so it's definitely down to a smaller network, unfortunately.

*mazedsalv**
31-01-2010, 04:38 PM
FIVE Want Celebrity Big Brother

SKY Want Big Brother

Personally, Big Brother is far better than the Celebrity show just because its on all summer and gives us somthing to be excited for instead of a series thats on for 3 weeks.

I hear alot of people dont get Sky so this may harm the ratings, unless its showen on Sky for Sky users and on another channel for Virgin Users if you get me?

Im glad now 2 channels are intrested in it because now there is deffenatly a better chance of BB12 Happening.

I really will love to see the face of all the haters who have said 'Thank god its being axed' and then they would see it on another channel lol

We have 5 months before BB11 which means about 8 Months before Big Brother finishes, lets hope Endemol get a few more offers from other channels, if BB11 Does do well I could see bigger and better channels like ITV being intrested.. it does depend on BB11.

ITV being interested would br brilliant, shame it would never happen though. 3m+ is normally considred a flop for ITV, unless BB11 gets 4.5m+ nightly, i dount ITV woudl want it/

Captain.Remy
31-01-2010, 04:40 PM
ITV being interested would br brilliant, shame it would never happen though. 3m+ is normally considred a flop for ITV, unless BB11 gets 4.5m+ nightly, i dount ITV woudl want it/

But it could attract more people as it's on ITV don't you think ?

(I'm rubbish at ratings analysis so I let the professionals speak :hugesmile:)

Jack_
31-01-2010, 04:41 PM
ITV would ruin it though. All the PC editing :yuk:

In a couple of years the digital/terrestrial channel thing won't matter, because of digital switchover.

We just have to hope BB11 performs as well as CBB7 does now.

Braden
31-01-2010, 04:41 PM
I'm glad because I can only picture Sky being the best option after the last series.

Tom
31-01-2010, 04:41 PM
FIVE Want Celebrity Big Brother

SKY Want Big Brother

Personally, Big Brother is far better than the Celebrity show just because its on all summer and gives us somthing to be excited for instead of a series thats on for 3 weeks.

I hear alot of people dont get Sky so this may harm the ratings, unless its showen on Sky for Sky users and on another channel for Virgin Users if you get me?

Im glad now 2 channels are intrested in it because now there is deffenatly a better chance of BB12 Happening.

I really will love to see the face of all the haters who have said 'Thank god its being axed' and then they would see it on another channel lol

We have 5 months before BB11 which means about 8 Months before Big Brother finishes, lets hope Endemol get a few more offers from other channels, if BB11 Does do well I could see bigger and better channels like ITV being intrested.. it does depend on BB11.

ITV don't have the space for it because their budget is too big due to airing other stuff. The only option would be to axe News at Ten throughout the summer and I doubt they'll do that.

Wow, barely 1 day since it finished and two channels wanting it.

Five is a terrestaral (sp?) channel so its better for ratings and media hype.
Sky is digital, less hype and llower ratings BUT more of a possibility for red button.

Not really- Sky only own the rights to pay satellite, they don't actually own the channel space so they'll have to pay like every other channel. Again its another costs exercise and if its worth it.

arista
31-01-2010, 04:43 PM
such as ....?

Five News
and Live From Studio Five
are both made by Sky for Five

DigitalSid
31-01-2010, 04:44 PM
The article D.S. are quoting is actually from the mirror and says nothing of the sort:

http://www.mirror.co.uk/celebs/news/2010/01/31/the-show-will-go-on-115875-22007649/


Tom
31-01-2010, 04:46 PM
2 is better than nothing isn't it ? I don't think it could interest BBC nor ITV so it's definitely down to a smaller network, unfortunately.

Sky have a habit of reviving shows and making an absolute mess of them so I'd rather it never returned at all than going there. Sky are worse than C4 when it comes to getting their own input. Five don't really care, they just let the producers do whatever.

Five News
and Live From Studio Five
are both made by Sky for Five

They're not something shown on both channels though. Its like saying ITV News and Channel 4 News are both the same because they're made by ITN.

*mazedsalv**
31-01-2010, 04:47 PM
But it could attract more people as it's on ITV don't you think ?

(I'm rubbish at ratings analysis so I let the professionals speak :hugesmile:)

Very true. They would have to advertise between XF and BGT to ensure it gets huge media attention, as well as billboards.
But im not sure if people will just tune in just because its being aired on ITV.

Tom
31-01-2010, 04:47 PM
The article D.S. are quoting is actually from the mirror and says nothing of the sort:

http://www.mirror.co.uk/celebs/news/2010/01/31/the-show-will-go-on-115875-22007649/

Why would Endemol approach a channel that isn't interested? Go figure. Its an open secret that Sky have been after BB for some time

arista
31-01-2010, 04:48 PM
"They're not something shown on both channels though. Its like saying ITV News and Channel 4 News are both the same because they're made by ITN."

But it tells you
Five work with Sky.
Anything is possible.


And Poor 'Watch Ch.'
may die without this.

*mazedsalv**
31-01-2010, 04:49 PM
But, where do we go from here?

Do we email C5 and Sky asking them to consider it?

Jack_
31-01-2010, 04:50 PM
Surely if other channels are expressing their interest C4 would think that there's still life in the format themselves, and would want to offer Endemol more money so that they can keep it?

arista
31-01-2010, 04:51 PM
But, where do we go from here?

Do we email C5 and Sky asking them to consider it?


They may not be onto it yet.


these are Early Talks


Endemol are in the Business
section of the Sunday Times
they have big loans
so they need a station to take this Contract on fast.

Stephanie
31-01-2010, 04:52 PM
why don't channel 4 just keep it lmao, and bring it back in a few years?

arista
31-01-2010, 04:54 PM
why don't channel 4 just keep it lmao, and bring it back in a few years?


They can not
as 5 years ahead of Booked places and Shows are now to be on.

So Big Brother has been rubbed out by Ch4 (who are bankrupt)

Tom
31-01-2010, 04:57 PM
Surely if other channels are expressing their interest C4 would think that there's still life in the format themselves, and would want to offer Endemol more money so that they can keep it?

C4's "creative renewal" bollocks

I think C4 knew there would be a spike of popularity in the final year

*mazedsalv**
31-01-2010, 04:58 PM
They can not
as 5 years ahead of Booked places and Shows are now to be on.

So Big Brother has been rubbed out by Ch4 (who are bankrupt)

C4 will be even more bankrupt when all of their other shows fail. Dont they get profit from the votes? Without a reality show and no phone votes, they will be in more trouble possibly?

*mazedsalv**
31-01-2010, 05:00 PM
C4's "creative renewal" bollocks

I think C4 knew there would be a spike of popularity in the final year

Hm, Im not sure. I dont think they expected ratings to pick up by 1m since the summer, and i think that they will soon be regretting the decision to axe the BB franchise as a whole. I wonder what they will do after the summer...

DigitalSid
31-01-2010, 05:00 PM
Why would Endemol approach a channel that isn't interested? Go figure.

We don't know that they are.

Its an open secret that Sky have been after BB for some time

Maybe once upon a time (http://www.guardian.co.uk/tv-and-radio/2010/jan/29/success-big-brother-channel-four?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter)

Jack_
31-01-2010, 05:01 PM
C4's "creative renewal" bollocks

I think C4 knew there would be a spike of popularity in the final year

I can't see whatever they're going to replace it with doing any better anyway. It'll probably be another reality TV show just in a different format anyway, something like Unanimous or Space Cadets. Either way, it's unlikely that it'll be the 'next big thing'.

Tom
31-01-2010, 05:01 PM
I can't see whatever they're going to replace it with doing any better anyway. It'll probably be another reality TV show just in a different format anyway, something like Unanimous or Space Cadets. Either way, it's unlikely that it'll be the 'next big thing'.

They should bring back Shattered

Jack_
31-01-2010, 05:02 PM
They should bring back Shattered

Ah yes, I saw an episode of that in that thread you posted, it was good actually :thumbs:

Firewire
31-01-2010, 05:04 PM
Five would be great.

BBLB/BBBM/Live could be shown on Fiver.

With Sky1, it's kinda limited because of the shows they have.

arista
31-01-2010, 05:06 PM
Five would be great.

BBLB/BBBM/Live could be shown on Fiver.

With Sky1, it's kinda limited because of the shows they have.

They could Use Sky3 if they wanted to.

arista
31-01-2010, 05:07 PM
C4 will be even more bankrupt when all of their other shows fail. Dont they get profit from the votes? Without a reality show and no phone votes, they will be in more trouble possibly?

Yes it will get harder at Ch4.


The Bloated BBC will not share it's Mega Cash.
Blame them Fuuuckers.

Firewire
31-01-2010, 05:09 PM
They could Use Sky3 if they wanted to.

I suppose.

But Five is best because it's a terrestrial channel.

Sky will ruin it.

starry
31-01-2010, 05:10 PM
As long as there's an internet feed with decent web site with news. The internet is an integral part of Big Brother now.

arista
31-01-2010, 05:11 PM
I suppose.

But Five is best because it's a terrestrial channel.

Sky will ruin it.



All I want is a Station to pick it up
Even Watch Ch.
want it - without it they may go under.

Tom
31-01-2010, 05:18 PM
As long as there's an internet feed with decent web site with news. The internet is an integral part of Big Brother now.

No live feed needed as CBB proved

Twitter feed was sufficient

arista
31-01-2010, 05:25 PM
No live feed needed as CBB proved

Twitter feed was sufficient


No UnCut Live Feed is great and better
I would pay £10 week for it.

starry
31-01-2010, 05:34 PM
No live feed needed as CBB proved

Twitter feed was sufficient

I don't agree really as twitter is a very restricted view, you only know what someone tells you. You can't really enjoy the tasks on twitter. But I'm thinking even more about the summer series. It's important that Endemol's manipulation is cut back and the audience can judge for themselves more.

Zippy
31-01-2010, 05:39 PM
Nobody watches Sky.

Theyll just spoil its memory.

Tom
31-01-2010, 05:41 PM
I don't agree really as twitter is a very restricted view, you only know what someone tells you. You can't really enjoy the tasks on twitter. But I'm thinking even more about the summer series. It's important that Endemol's manipulation is cut back and the audience can judge for themselves more.

Live feed is edited and you only see what they want you to see ...

Patrick
31-01-2010, 05:49 PM
In a couple of years the digital/terrestrial channel thing won't matter, because of digital switchover.



Whats that??

starry
31-01-2010, 05:51 PM
Live feed is edited and you only see what they want you to see ...

It is, but you can still get a general impression of someone by seeing them and hearing them say things. Twitter won't give you any of that expression behind words and actions.

Jack_
31-01-2010, 05:53 PM
Whats that??

They're switching off the analogue transmitters and reverting to digital signals, to improve quality etc.

More information here (http://www.digitaluk.co.uk/)

Tom
31-01-2010, 05:53 PM
It is, but you can still get a general impression of someone by seeing them and hearing them say things. Twitter won't give you any of that expression behind words and actions.

Does it matter anyway? 99% of viewers only watch the highlights show because its an entertainment show. It stopped being real life after about the first series or so.

Patrick
31-01-2010, 06:00 PM
They're switching off the analogue transmitters and reverting to digital signals, to improve quality etc.

More information here (http://www.digitaluk.co.uk/)

Oh right okay, thanks for the link. :thumbs:

I don't agree really as twitter is a very restricted view, you only know what someone tells you. You can't really enjoy the tasks on twitter. But I'm thinking even more about the summer series. It's important that Endemol's manipulation is cut back and the audience can judge for themselves more.

Maybe, I mean tbh I was against this whole BB Twitter Live **** when it was made but I love it now.
I spent the last 3 Weeks off School and the Bus Rides, on my phone on Twitter reading BBLive.

Made the day go quicker and now Im gona be so bored now without it :(

starry
31-01-2010, 06:43 PM
Does it matter anyway? 99% of viewers only watch the highlights show because its an entertainment show. It stopped being real life after about the first series or so.

I just wish there was less manipulation by them though, I think that's one of the reasons they lost some of the audience. A turning point may have been them allowing Nikki to return and be eligible to win in BB7. Cutting live feed is all part of the manipulation. Also live feed adds some buzz around the show for the media including the internet which is definitely an important part of the show and is likely to only increase in importance.

Patrick
31-01-2010, 06:49 PM
A turning point may have been them allowing Nikki to return and be eligible to win in BB7..

Oh yeah I remember that, so many people were pissed off and the producers were argueing over it too.

Tom
31-01-2010, 06:54 PM
I just wish there was less manipulation by them though, I think that's one of the reasons they lost some of the audience. A turning point may have been them allowing Nikki to return and be eligible to win in BB7. Cutting live feed is all part of the manipulation. Also live feed adds some buzz around the show for the media including the internet which is definitely an important part of the show and is likely to only increase in importance.

Huge buzz for CBB without live feed ...

georgehudson
31-01-2010, 07:06 PM
I saw in the papers that its going to Watch or Five so Sky could do a deal with Five or something :D

starry
31-01-2010, 07:24 PM
Huge buzz for CBB without live feed ...

Maybe CBB is a little bit different as it's so shorter and contains celebs.

*mazedsalv**
31-01-2010, 07:43 PM
I miss LF 24/7 so much, but lets not turn this thread to a LF discussion, i really hope they bring it back for the last series.

Anyways, I reckon C5 should get it, even though its seen as a "tacky" channel. Most of their shows are flopping compared to other channels,a nd they have no flagship show (Flashforward was a hit though, especially in the first 3 weeks). They need a flagship show, they would want BB. They will put 100% effort in it because they need a show for the channel that pulls ratings in.

But now C4 will lose their own flagship show, they only have the cooking channels and Location, Location... they pull in the biggest viewers after BB.

But C5 have no show they are known for. They will desperately want to have a hit.

Ramsay
31-01-2010, 08:03 PM
Even if it does come back it wont be the same

Shasown
31-01-2010, 08:20 PM
It would be good if FIVE did take on BB, with highlights etc on 5 itself and one of their subsidary channels, FIVER or FIVEUSA, being given over to live feed.

Patrick
31-01-2010, 08:29 PM
It would be good if FIVE did take on BB, with highlights etc on 5 itself and one of their subsidary channels, FIVER or FIVEUSA, being given over to live feed.

BBLB UK, BBBM UK, BBLive UK on FIVEUSA... Yeah that makes sense.

Shasown
31-01-2010, 09:11 PM
BBLB UK, BBBM UK, BBLive UK on FIVEUSA... Yeah that makes sense.

Given that its a UK channel owned and operated by FIVE showing all american shows, during the day it could show Live feed from within the house, it could revert to FIVEUSA for the evening shows it carries normally, then revert to live feed from the house about 11pm.

Its not an American Channel Patrick its a UK channel broadcasting to a largely UK based audience.

Tom
31-01-2010, 09:13 PM
What happened to Five Life?

Shasown
31-01-2010, 09:16 PM
What happened to Five Life?

That changed to FIVER (in 2008 , dont quote me on the year)

Patrick
31-01-2010, 09:21 PM
Given that its a UK channel owned and operated by FIVE showing all american shows, during the day it could show Live feed from within the house, it could revert to FIVEUSA for the evening shows it carries normally, then revert to live feed from the house about 11pm.

Its not an American Channel Patrick its a UK channel broadcasting to a largely UK based audience.



I didnt say it was American, I know it shows USA shows but it would still be stupid to put It on with all those American shows playing unless as you said, they could take the USA Shows off and put LF on and then at night go back to the USA Shows.

BB_Eye
01-02-2010, 01:46 AM
Sounds like ratings suicide. How does Sky 1 do for viewing figures anyway?

XFACTORFAN
01-02-2010, 10:37 AM
I would love BB to come back, but i would want the summer series to i know im being greedy:hugesmile:, i dont know what channel i would want it on, could someone tell me do you get sky 1 on freeview, cause at the moment i have both VM & freeview, but im thiningk of getting rid of my VM Box, but if there i as chance of it going to sky i want to keep it.