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ILoveTRW
10-02-2010, 07:01 PM
It effectively is already

but what would you think about this?

Id much rather see the UK join the US instead of the EU any day

Jack_
10-02-2010, 07:04 PM
Patrick is going to go explode when he sees this.

InOne
10-02-2010, 07:07 PM
Totally different cultures and ways of life. Like imagine if Yorkshire had the death penalty and Lancashire didn't lol

Maia
10-02-2010, 07:09 PM
No. Never. America should keep it's grubby mitts off of our wonderful country.

ILoveTRW
10-02-2010, 07:12 PM
Totally different cultures and ways of life. Like imagine if Yorkshire had the death penalty and Lancashire didn't lol

we have a hell of a lot more in common with the US than we do with Belgium, which is were twatface brown is giving all are rights to

Smithy
10-02-2010, 07:13 PM
would we get US tv channels but be able to keep UK ones aswel?

InOne
10-02-2010, 07:13 PM
we have a hell of a lot more in common with the US than we do with Belgium, which is were twatface brown is giving all are rights to

What do we have in common?

ILoveTRW
10-02-2010, 07:14 PM
would we get US tv channels but be able to keep UK ones aswel?

probs US States have there own channels as well as the main ones

ILoveTRW
10-02-2010, 07:14 PM
What do we have in common?

same language is one

InOne
10-02-2010, 07:21 PM
same language is one

And?

Tom4784
10-02-2010, 07:24 PM
No, our cultures are too different and we're better off as we are.

ILoveTRW
10-02-2010, 07:30 PM
And?

Media

Stephanie
10-02-2010, 07:37 PM
no!
never D:

Harry!
10-02-2010, 07:40 PM
The UK is a Europian (sp) country not a American country. So no I would not want the US taking over an extra 60 million people thanks.

LemonJam
10-02-2010, 07:44 PM
-awaits patricks rage-

Patrick
10-02-2010, 07:49 PM
would we get US tv channels but be able to keep UK ones aswel?

Oh like we already bloody dont.

Cant turn on the telly without seeing somthing to do with America, Alot of UK Chanenls even have 'USA' Versions of their channels. Its ridiculous, in all honestly if I wanted to watch an American Show I would go online like I did with the Real World.

And The UK is far better with EU than it would be with America, They can just **** off, I hate everything about them, Im glad we in the UK arent as annoying as them. I actually thought British People in England were annoying and Americans were brilliant, then I joined TiBB and realised people living in England are really sound and then I learnt more about how self obsessed and ****ed up in the head the Americans Are.
Im going to calm down and go eat Birthday Cake..

Stu
10-02-2010, 07:50 PM
LOL @ This being in Serious Debates.

King Gizzard
10-02-2010, 07:52 PM
And paddy is unleashed!! :joker:


gwaannn paddy

Beastie
10-02-2010, 07:55 PM
Paddy is a legend. A mini Hitler in the making :)

Maia
10-02-2010, 07:57 PM
LOL Patrick, you legend. :bigsmile:

Shaun
10-02-2010, 08:07 PM
Media

But what about the differences in culture, education systems, healthcare, immigration policy, attitudes to religion?

And, jesus, we couldn't possibly shift to driving on the other side of the road.

Stu
10-02-2010, 08:11 PM
But what about the differences in culture, education systems, healthcare, immigration policy, attitudes to religion?

And, jesus, we couldn't possibly shift to driving on the other side of the road.
And just ... why ... in general? Did ILoveDC give this any proper socio political thought or did a little neuron that wasn't thinking of The Real World whilst drooling all over the keyboard suddenly fire off without warning and we get this thread as a result?

Why, god? Why? Why are people so stupid? What are my still doing here?

Ahhhhhhhhhhh!

Smithy
10-02-2010, 08:17 PM
I find it hilarious that DC posts the hole topic and patrick takes his rage out on my post

ILoveTRW
10-02-2010, 08:19 PM
All States have differently laws ffs

Stu im smarter than you could ever be

just accept it

Smithy
10-02-2010, 08:21 PM
All States have differently laws ffs

Stu im smarter than you could ever be

just accept it

that is just asking for one of stu's essay long responces, to which the entire thread will erupt into argument

Beastie
10-02-2010, 08:23 PM
that is just asking for one of stu's essay long responces, to which the entire thread will erupt into argument

Lol. mmmm entertainment. Actually I think a part of Stu cannot be bothered with his long witty responses which usually owns a thread.. I bet a part of him thinks "I want to take a break from this ****"

Aww I like ILoveDC too though!

ILoveTRW
10-02-2010, 08:24 PM
that is just asking for one of stu's essay long responces, to which the entire thread will erupt into argument

its true though, im not trying to be big headed but i doubt Stu has anywhere near the qualification that i have

he is always trying to put me down and act superior when the fact of the matter is, he isnt

Scarlett.
10-02-2010, 08:25 PM
UK is independant, we have our own currency, we arent like the rest of Europe, I like that

Stu
10-02-2010, 08:26 PM
Your right, thebeast.

that is just asking for one of stu's essay long responces, to which the entire thread will erupt into argument
I'm not going to give away the irony to you here, I'm just going to let you work it out all by yourself ...

ILoveTRW
10-02-2010, 08:26 PM
UK is independant, we have our own currency, we arent like the rest of Europe, I like that

but its only a matter of time until we do

Scarlett.
10-02-2010, 08:28 PM
but its only a matter of time until we do

Not really, we have always been independant...well apart from brief periods of history

Stu
10-02-2010, 08:29 PM
its true though, im not trying to be big headed but i doubt Stu has anywhere near the qualification that i have

he is always trying to put me down and act superior when the fact of the matter is, he isnt
I don't think one needs any qualifications to point out what an absoloutely abysmal excuse for a serious debate this is.

Braden
10-02-2010, 08:30 PM
American's say that we have rotten teeth, so if there going to bitch about us like that then they can **** right off :)

P.s - Except you ILoveDC, your cool.

Patrick
10-02-2010, 08:40 PM
I find it hilarious that DC posts the hole topic and patrick takes his rage out on my post

I just ment the first line of my post to do with you lol

Patrick
10-02-2010, 08:41 PM
American's say that we have rotten teeth, so if there going to bitch about us like that then they can **** right off :)

P.s - Except you ILoveDC, your cool.

Yeah Heidi said somthing like that about Sov.

The brits dont have Rotten Teeth well at least were not stuck up our own arse, can think for ourselfs, and arent fat ****s.

:)
So its all good.

Braden
10-02-2010, 08:42 PM
Yeah Heidi said somthing like that about Sov.

The brits dont have Rotten Teeth well at least were not stuck up our own arse, can think for ourselfs, and arent fat ****s.

:)
So its all good.

Well said ! :laugh:

Smithy
10-02-2010, 08:42 PM
Your right, thebeast.


I'm not going to give away the irony to you here, I'm just going to let you work it out all by yourself ...


:cloud:
your a Va-JJ

Stu
10-02-2010, 08:45 PM
:cloud:
your a Va-JJ
Your mum.

arista
10-02-2010, 08:52 PM
It effectively is already

but what would you think about this?

Id much rather see the UK join the US instead of the EU any day



You are having a Laugh.


And we are not in the Stinking €uro money,
anyway.

Smithy
10-02-2010, 08:53 PM
Your mum.

that doesnt even make sense

Braden
10-02-2010, 08:54 PM
that doesnt even make sense

I don't think it was intended to make sense, it was said to bother you, which it did :laugh:

Stu
10-02-2010, 08:54 PM
that doesnt even make sense
That's because your a ****ing moron.

ILoveTRW
10-02-2010, 08:55 PM
That's because your a ****ing moron.

why are you so mean :conf:

Smithy
10-02-2010, 08:58 PM
That's because your a ****ing moron.

People in glass houses shouldnt throw stones Stu

Patrick
10-02-2010, 08:58 PM
OMFG I just found out Stephen Baldwin is Related to that guy from Cat in the Hat.

Of topic, just found it out though and got excited..

Jack_
10-02-2010, 08:59 PM
LOL @ this thread

Captain.Remy
10-02-2010, 09:00 PM
Right, I'm going to take this topic on an economic level because it's what I do best (you bitches will be glad when I win the Nobel Prize in Economics :hugesmile:).

So, UK has pretty much been in Europe since the beginning (1973 which is about 20 years after the creation of Europe but still is considered as one of the first countries) so the fact it must belong to the US is out of question.
Furthermore, on an economic aspect, the fact UK doesn't have the same currency isn't a problem in itself as London is the first business place in Europe ahead from Paris, Milan and Frankfurt even though it's the 3rd ranked country in Europe (first is Germany, second is France) so on this aspect, the UK is not depending on the US.
Have you ever heard from the Blue Banana from Liverpool to Milan ? It's the economic heart of Europe, it's where it goes down to. It covers one of the world's highest concentrations of people, money, and industry. It speaks for itself.

I'm talking business and economic facts here. You may not agree but that's not a matter of opinion as it's been proved over and over again that the UK is fully part of Europe, no matter the currency differences. Let's take the Economic crisis as an example: Brown, Sarkozy and Merkel agreed to lead on the same economic policy to get Europe out of its mess so it's a sign UK is Europe.

And this topic is non sense anyway because even on other aspects (social, historic, cultural, ...) it's not the US.

That's it, feel free to comment on that but it's on your behalf, you don't want to challenge my economic skills. :tongue:

arista
10-02-2010, 09:04 PM
Wrong
to be in Europe Proper
you must have there money.


And We do not.

http://www.curbside.on.ca/blog/wp-content/uploads/2008/04/euro.jpg

Patrick
10-02-2010, 09:05 PM
Wrong
to be in Europe Proper
you must have there money.


And We do not.

Seriously is stupid how the UK doesnt use the Euro.

REP of Ireland does when I go down there its weird using it, but obviously because im in NI I have to use the stupid Pound.

Tbf it is easier, and I would be confussed if we switched to Euro as I have grown up using the Pound but I would rather the UK just used the Euro like everyone else.

Captain.Remy
10-02-2010, 09:11 PM
Wrong
to be in Europe Proper
you must have there money.


And We do not.

Like I said, I'm not talking about cultural differences with other European countries or as to why some European laws cannot be done but on an economic side, it is part of Europe and the fact UK will never change its currency isn't a big deal anymore.
I'm not a pro-Euro either but my opinion doesn't get into the equation this time, the UK will always belong to Europe on every aspect you might like. It is what it is. Fair enough it doesn't have the same currency, but so doesn't Sweden, Denmark, Romania, Poland, Czech Republic, Lithuania, Latvia, Hungary, Estonia or Bulgaria. :thumbs:

Scarlett.
10-02-2010, 09:21 PM
Seriously is stupid how the UK doesnt use the Euro.

REP of Ireland does when I go down there its weird using it, but obviously because im in NI I have to use the stupid Pound.

Tbf it is easier, and I would be confussed if we switched to Euro as I have grown up using the Pound but I would rather the UK just used the Euro like everyone else.
we've used the pound for centuries, why should we change now?

Beastie
10-02-2010, 09:23 PM
Keep the pound.

ILoveTRW
10-02-2010, 09:24 PM
we've used the pound for centuries, why should we change now?

1971 actually

Patrick
10-02-2010, 09:25 PM
we've used the pound for centuries, why should we change now?

I just hate the design lol

I like how it works, its very easy to use and that, The only 2 reasons I think it could change is because I hate the look of it, but thats not the big deal but just because every other country in Europe uses Euro so I was thinking its a little odd we use the Pound you know?

Captain.Remy
10-02-2010, 09:31 PM
I just hate the design lol

I like how it works, its very easy to use and that, The only 2 reasons I think it could change is because I hate the look of it, but thats not the big deal but just because every other country in Europe uses Euro so I was thinking its a little odd we use the Pound you know?

Read my latest post in this thread. :thumbs: UK isn't the only country not using €uro.

arista
10-02-2010, 09:37 PM
Seriously is stupid how the UK doesnt use the Euro.

REP of Ireland does when I go down there its weird using it, but obviously because im in NI I have to use the stupid Pound.

Tbf it is easier, and I would be confussed if we switched to Euro as I have grown up using the Pound but I would rather the UK just used the Euro like everyone else.




Pat
The Pound Ain't Stupid.

Your €uro will have to fund Bankrupt Greece
who are in your Europe.

arista
10-02-2010, 09:38 PM
Keep the pound.


We are Forever.

ILoveTRW
10-02-2010, 09:40 PM
Pat
The Pound Ain't Stupid.

Your €uro will have to fund Bankrupt Greece
who are in your Europe.

exactly, eastern europe pulls the whole of europe down

yes Remy was making a few good points but he was only look at the west

Captain.Remy
10-02-2010, 09:48 PM
exactly, eastern europe pulls the whole of europe down

yes Remy was making a few good points but he was only look at the west

Greece is another problem which has been complicated to solve and still is being solved today.
As for Eastern European countries, I'm not especially for them to enter the Europe but what's done is done and it has been the policy of the European Government. Eastern countries don't necessarily take Europe down because they've been helping in a few things such as production and new markets to explore even though it's the rule of "Whoever is richer pays for the poorest" which has taken the lead.
And to be honest, UK has been more of a disaster than Poland and Czech Republic combined which both countries have done quite well. UK and Spain are Europe's biggest disasters due to the Economic crisis.

Scarlett.
10-02-2010, 09:50 PM
1971 actually

No, that was when decimilization was brought in

Anglo-Saxon
Main article: Anglo-Saxon pound

The origins of sterling lie in the reign of King Offa of Mercia, who introduced the silver penny. It copied the denarius of the new currency system of Charlemagne's Frankish Empire. As in the Carolingian system, 240 pennies weighed 1 pound (corresponding to Charlemagne's libra), with the shilling corresponding to Charlemagne's solidus and equal to 12d. At the time of the penny's introduction, it weighed 22.5 troy grains of fine silver (30 tower grains; about 1.5 g, indicating that the Mercian pound weighed 5,400 troy grains (the Mercian pound became the basis of the tower pound, which weighed 5,400 troy grains, equivalent to 7,200 tower grains). At this time, the name sterling had yet to be acquired. The penny swiftly spread throughout the other Anglo-Saxon kingdoms and became the standard coin of what was to become England.

Source (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pound_sterling)

You have been schooled, again, biatch

ILoveTRW
10-02-2010, 09:58 PM
No, that was when decimilization was brought in



Source (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pound_sterling)

You have been schooled, again, biatch

nah they still changed it so your original statement is wrong :p

ILoveTRW
10-02-2010, 09:58 PM
No, that was when decimilization was brought in



Source (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pound_sterling)

You have been schooled, again, biatch

nah they still changed it so your original statement is wrong :p

Scarlett.
10-02-2010, 10:00 PM
nah they still changed it so your original statement is wrong :p

Plenty of currency has changed since its inception, that proves nothing it was called sterling back then, its called sterling now

F
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:3

ILoveTRW
10-02-2010, 10:02 PM
Plenty of currency has changed since its inception, that proves nothing it was called sterling back then, its called sterling now

F
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:3

you had to just read up about it anyways so you fail

ILoveTRW
10-02-2010, 10:02 PM
Plenty of currency has changed since its inception, that proves nothing it was called sterling back then, its called sterling now

F
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:3

you had to just read up about it anyways so you fail

ILoveTRW
10-02-2010, 10:03 PM
why the **** am i posting two posts at once

Scarlett.
10-02-2010, 10:03 PM
you had to just read up about it anyways so you fail

I was right anyway, so I dont see your point, since the debate is about money and not wether or not I research what I say

Captain.Remy
10-02-2010, 10:04 PM
Guys, you shouldn't be worried about UK not changing its currency. It's the day they will decide to change it that you must be worried about. :wink:

ILoveTRW
10-02-2010, 10:07 PM
Guys, you shouldn't be worried about UK not changing its currency. It's the day they will decide to change it that you must be worried about. :wink:

Pounds to Euros is simples

you have to be a ****** for it to give you a mind ****

Captain.Remy
10-02-2010, 10:12 PM
Pounds to Euros is simples

you have to be a ****** for it to give you a mind ****

First of all, unless something absolutely awful happens to the UK, the Euro will never be the official currency.
Secondly, bringing Europe wasn't that "simples". Yes it has for Easter European countries as it couldn't get any worse for them but for richer countries, it may not have been so good. Yes, it has increased Europe's strength on the International scene but prices have increased quite badly.

But then, it's out of context as the UK is one special context in itself. Like I said, the day UK will change its currency means it's not good, at all.

Vicky.
10-02-2010, 10:47 PM
I don't think one needs any qualifications to point out what an absoloutely abysmal excuse for a serious debate this is.

:laugh:

Agreed. And moved.

InOne
10-02-2010, 10:57 PM
I would like American size portions in McDonalds, our ones are getting to be rip offs

arista
11-02-2010, 06:59 AM
I would like American size portions in McDonalds, our ones are getting to be rip offs


In that case why not change to the Dollar.

Shasown
11-02-2010, 08:39 AM
Surely the question should be, "Should we integrate further with Europe or allow Johnny Yank to come snivelling back, like a well whipped bitch and become a county of the UK, or should we treat them as grown ups and let them have the same status as Scotland, a devolved government etc?"

Niamh.
11-02-2010, 09:27 AM
This is one the thee most ridiculous threads I've seen here yet!

arsenalforever
11-02-2010, 09:40 AM
Totally different cultures and ways of life. Like imagine if Yorkshire had the death penalty and Lancashire didn't lol

oh what a lovely world that be :)

kill a few hoodies and chavs

Dr.Gonzo
11-02-2010, 09:53 AM
They'd never allow it. We don't have guns in every home and we're not anywhere close to being fat enough.

ILoveTRW
11-02-2010, 12:23 PM
:laugh:

Agreed. And moved.

how dare you move my thread from the serious debate forum

I am seriously offended

how is this less serious than "Hypatia is dead" and "Should sugar be banned?" and "Pornography is addictive for the male brain"?

Reinstate it now

Vicky.
11-02-2010, 12:24 PM
Reinstate it now

Uh...no

ILoveTRW
11-02-2010, 12:27 PM
Uh...no

why not?

this is a very serious debate

Stu just came on a ruined it like the **** he is

Vicky.
11-02-2010, 12:34 PM
why not?

this is a very serious debate

Stu just came on a ruined it like the **** he is

Its not a serious debate at all.

Its nothing more than your obsession with america. Which is getting old...fast.

ILoveTRW
11-02-2010, 12:38 PM
Its not a serious debate at all.

Its nothing more than your obsession with america. Which is getting old...fast.

gets some colour into your life ffs

Dr.Gonzo
11-02-2010, 12:43 PM
Calm down you two. Don't make me throw jelly on yous.