View Full Version : Is Snooker a sport?
Jack_
11-02-2010, 04:54 PM
Not sure whether this is the right forum, but meh. Other thread gave me an idea for this one.
Is snooker a sport, or not?
Iceman
11-02-2010, 04:55 PM
Yeah I would consider it a sport....they have skill and practice as much as any other sports .......
InOne
11-02-2010, 04:56 PM
Yes, Snooker is epic.
King Gizzard
11-02-2010, 04:57 PM
theres matches..one loses one wins..deffinetly a sport!
setanta
11-02-2010, 04:59 PM
Of course it is, and a very enjoyable one at that. The World Championship is coming up soon, right?
Jack_
11-02-2010, 05:00 PM
Of course it is, and a very enjoyable one at that. The World Championship is coming up soon, right?
17th April :hugesmile:
Of course it is, and a very enjoyable one at that. The World Championship is coming up soon, right?
This,
Lots of Skill involved in Snooker it's not as easy as potting the Ball Positioning is everything
setanta
11-02-2010, 05:01 PM
17th April :hugesmile:
It's great stuff. The final frame deciders are magic.
Jack_
11-02-2010, 05:03 PM
It's great stuff. The final frame deciders are magic.
Indeed, and you can get some epic safety exchanges too. Whoever said snooker is boring quite clearly has never watched enough of it.
Iceman
11-02-2010, 05:05 PM
This,
Lots of Skill involved in Snooker it's not as easy as potting the Ball Positioning is everything
Yeah plus you've got to try and break the pack up, plus the best one, trying to snooker people...
setanta
11-02-2010, 05:05 PM
Indeed, and you can get some epic safety exchanges too. Whoever said snooker is boring quite clearly has never watched enough of it.
Or hasn't played it themselves. The control and mastery involved is something to behold.
King Gizzard
11-02-2010, 05:05 PM
Remember as a kid thinking it would be easy to be a snooker player
but potting is hard enough...and they dont even think about that when they play, its second nature..let alone having to think about where the white ball will land
Iceman
11-02-2010, 05:06 PM
Remember as a kid thinking it would be easy to be a snooker player
but potting is hard enough...and they dont even think about that when they play, its second nature..let alone having to think about where the white ball will land
Yeah plus the fact that they are thinking 2-3 shots ahead...it still amazes me how they can think like that...
setanta
11-02-2010, 05:08 PM
yep and so is darts
Agree with this statement big time. Honestly don't know how they do it in Darts. I mean we've all hit big scores once in awhile, but to do it on that big stage, and perform at such a high level under that kind of pressure. Amazing.
Jack_
11-02-2010, 05:08 PM
Yeah, playing snooker is certainly not easy. A few shots after the break for me and the table is already an appalling looking mess.
King Gizzard
11-02-2010, 05:09 PM
Darts has really took off in the last 3 years
Sky of course
not that bbc cack
arista
11-02-2010, 05:10 PM
Yes.
InOne
11-02-2010, 05:12 PM
Snooker is sooo hard, I am ok, great at pool, but there is alot of difference.
setanta
11-02-2010, 05:13 PM
Snooker is sooo hard, I am ok, great at pool, but there is alot of difference.
Right you're on baby. Pool's my game.
Iceman
11-02-2010, 05:14 PM
Used to play in a pool club every saturday, was very good at it for a while, then i found alcohol..........:(
InOne
11-02-2010, 05:14 PM
Right you're on baby. Pool's my game.
It's my game ;)
I am the Fast Eddie of Yorkshire haha
Stacey.
11-02-2010, 05:23 PM
Yep, snookers good :thumbs:
setanta
11-02-2010, 05:24 PM
It's my game ;)
I am the Fast Eddie of Yorkshire haha
Yadda yadda. Bring it on.
InOne
11-02-2010, 05:27 PM
Yadda yadda. Bring it on.
Sounds good. I used to play for pub teams and that, but it was a really serious one and they got actually annoyed at you if you lost, not just banter. So like stopped all that, took the fun out of the game.
setanta
11-02-2010, 05:28 PM
Sounds good. I used to play for pub teams and that, but it was a really serious one and they got actually annoyed at you if you lost, not just banter. So like stopped all that, took the fun out of the game.
Yeah, I'd say it can get a bit mad when you involve yourself with a team.
InOne
11-02-2010, 05:29 PM
Yeah, I'd say it can get a bit mad when you involve yourself with a team.
Indeed lol I like the ones who get pissed before the game. It's on the older ones though, the 'big' names, still holding on to glory lol
PaulyJ
11-02-2010, 08:20 PM
Err No, it's a game, like Darts is, like Chess is, i love Darts don't like Snooker much now, it use to be full of characters like Taylor and Stevens, and the boozy Alex Higgins.
My rule of thumb, If you can wear shoes then it's not a Sport, add golf to the list of Games as well.
Patrick
11-02-2010, 08:21 PM
More of a sport than that WWE bollocks.
Err No, it's a game, like Darts is, like Chess is, i love Darts don't like Snooker much now, it use to be full of characters like Taylor and Stevens, and the boozy Alex Higgins.
My rule of thumb, If you can wear shoes then it's not a Sport, add golf to the list of Games as well.
well you can add football, rugby, tennis and cricket to your list they're all games too
cant believe your comparing darts and snooker to hungry hippo's and twister
PaulyJ
11-02-2010, 08:39 PM
Shoes, as in I'm just off to the office Dear, Have you seen my Shoes
Football Boots
Tennis = Trainers
Cricket, erm, i'm not sure but they are not the type of shoe i had in mind.
Hungry Hippo is a game yes, yes how very sarcastic you made that connection, but i will say that Hungry Hippo is a Child's game, also a recreational game, also non professional. These are the things that seperate Snooker and Hungry Hippo, not the title of Sport or Game.
I have a second rule of thumb, If your heart rate does not increase substantially whilst playing then it's not a sport.
What activity breaks that rule which you would wish to call a sport?
Firewire
11-02-2010, 08:41 PM
Yes it's a sport.
Shasown
11-02-2010, 08:46 PM
I have a second rule of thumb, If your heart rate does not increase substantially whilst playing then it's not a sport.
What activity breaks that rule which you would wish to call a sport?
Fishing, shooting, archery, bowls(crown green) to name a couple or four.
Shoes, as in I'm just off to the office Dear, Have you seen my Shoes
Football Boots
Tennis = Trainers
Cricket, erm, i'm not sure but they are not the type of shoe i had in mind.
Hungry Hippo is a game yes, yes how very sarcastic you made that connection, but i will say that Hungry Hippo is a Child's game, also a recreational game, also non professional. These are the things that seperate Snooker and Hungry Hippo, not the title of Sport or Game.
I have a second rule of thumb, If your heart rate does not increase substantially whilst playing then it's not a sport.
What activity breaks that rule which you would wish to call a sport?
when your playing a game of snooker or darts for £50,000 in front of thousands of spectators, i think the heart will be racing a little bit dont you?
PaulyJ
11-02-2010, 09:11 PM
Fishing, shooting, archery, bowls(crown green) to name a couple or four.
Fishing is Hunting, even if you put the fishy back in. Yes you compete against people, but, Sport is about equal participation, between all participants, if you ask the fish he would agree with me that "This is no Sport"
Bowls, Archery, Shooting, are Professional Pass times................. Ok i am joking. Yep your right, Rule of Thumb Broken
But where are you drawing the line, do you consider Tidlywinks a Sport?
I draw the Line at a competition including Athletic Activity, and no Shoes.
LemonJam
11-02-2010, 09:12 PM
I really like snooker, I'd say it was.
More of a sport than that WWE bollocks.
Who said it was meant to be a sport? Was Die Hard a documentary? Mong.
Shoes, as in I'm just off to the office Dear, Have you seen my Shoes
Football Boots
Tennis = Trainers
Cricket, erm, i'm not sure but they are not the type of shoe i had in mind.
Hungry Hippo is a game yes, yes how very sarcastic you made that connection, but i will say that Hungry Hippo is a Child's game, also a recreational game, also non professional. These are the things that seperate Snooker and Hungry Hippo, not the title of Sport or Game.
I have a second rule of thumb, If your heart rate does not increase substantially whilst playing then it's not a sport.
What activity breaks that rule which you would wish to call a sport?
What a brilliantly convoluted way of looking at things.
PaulyJ
12-02-2010, 03:33 PM
What a brilliantly convoluted way of looking at things.
Ok i will stop prattling on and simply ask of the Forum
Is Conckers a Sport?
Is Croquet a Sport?
Is Cherards a Sport?
What definition defines a Sport? Because if it is not Athleticism then Sport is going to become a Pointless description for me
Ok i will stop prattling on and simply ask of the Forum
Is Conckers a Sport?
Is Croquet a Sport?
Is Cherards a Sport?
What definition defines a Sport? Because if it is not Athleticism then Sport is going to become a Pointless description for me
I know pretty much zero about those games to comment, but I think most people use common sense to define what's a sport.
Chess & Snooker for instance. Sure, they both require great mental thinking but pretty much zero physical strain but one is always on telly, is always played in front of crowds, has some very well known figures, officialy endorsed console games and pretty much operates like a sport from the ground up and is received as a sport because it is transmitted as a sport, public perception wise.
Ergo Snooker is a sport, Chess is not.
Mind you like Chess, Snooker can also be seen as a recreational 'game'. Two drunk goons in the backroom of a pub are not competing in a major sporting event.
Ronnie O'Sullivan, however, is.
PaulyJ
12-02-2010, 04:38 PM
It is not Common Sense to define such things by current trend, and public perception.
in the 60s and 70s Chess was tellevised, and competition today is in front of large crowds. Chess was a Sport then but now it is not now? There was a brief period in the 90's when Garry Kasperov was beaten by Deep Blue(a computer) Chess became very popular again, did Chess suddenly contain more "Sporting" content?
I dont think Sport should have a changeable Definition. I think it is fixed.
A celebrity can lose the Celebrity tag when they become unpopular, but i don't think Sport can be treated that way.
Even the Dictionary definitions of Sport are confused on this matter so public perception and trends will hold the majority view i guess. But if memory serves Snooker has been finding it hard to get revenue's for Prizes, Top Players needing to get jobs to pay the bills, it may soon fall the way of Chess, by your thinking it is losing it's "Sportiness"
Not with Barry Hearn taking charge this year. He saved Darts, so hopefully he can do some good for Snooker.
Snooker has been finding it hard to get revenues for some time now since it became illegal for them to use tobacco companies as sponsers - who traditionally would have sponsered the big tournaments.
The game has two primary problems : Not enough characters - people pay to see Ronnie, but that's about it - and the new generation of sports fan just dosn't have the attention span to absorb what a great game it can be.
If television as a whole is going down the toilet in favour of the internet due to the short attention span of youth, Snooker - a pedantic and calculating game at the best of times - was clearly always going to suffer.
Claymores
12-02-2010, 05:12 PM
Topless Darts is the biggie sport JI - came on in early 90s just after the weather with midget on trampoline called bouncy trying to bounce high enough to show us where it was gonna Snow in Scotland
Claymores
12-02-2010, 05:15 PM
Topless snooker? the ref a female lying over tbe table relpacing the balls? No wornder LIVE TV went bust with only topless darts
Topless snooker? the ref a female lying over tbe table relpacing the balls? No wornder LIVE TV went bust with only topless darts
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ILoveTRW
12-02-2010, 05:22 PM
OMG how dare you have this pathetic topic in the serious debate section
im going to have an uber fit because im a premenstrual slag
OMG how dare you have this pathetic topic in the serious debate section
im going to have an uber fit because im a premenstrual slag
What sort of a debate is it then, a parody debate?
ILoveTRW
12-02-2010, 05:28 PM
What sort of a debate is it then, a parody debate?
this should be in the sport section *hyperventilates*
Jack_
12-02-2010, 05:31 PM
http://images.google.ie/images?hl=en&client=firefox-a&channel=s&rls=org.mozilla:en-GB:official&hs=xiz&resnum=0&q=michaela%20tabb&um=1&ie=UTF-8&sa=N&tab=wi
:lovedup:
I love that woman, feisty - you would not mess with her.
Oh, and ILoveDC, if it makes you feel any better, I don't think your topics should've been moved either.
ILoveTRW
12-02-2010, 05:33 PM
I love that woman, feisty - you would not mess with her.
Oh, and ILoveDC, if it makes you feel any better, I don't think your topics should've been moved either.
lol this wasnt targeted at you sorry
its targeted at the thick **** mod who are incapable of moderating
this should be in the sport section *hyperventilates*
It's a debate. A debate with room for an intelligent debate. Ergo, It can be in either section.
PaulyJ
12-02-2010, 05:52 PM
Yep, i'd agree there Judas. Although Snooker delivers a spectacle of Skill to viewers, once you know what can be expected of a top Snooker player, the attraction faids. Excitement is squeezed into a few moments at the end of a close game, or when safety shots are at there best.
If you contrast the Atmoshere of a Darts game to a Snooker game, there is the problem
Cricket developed 1 day 50 over's cricket for this very reason, and Chess developed Speed Chess also. Hard to say how Snooker could evolve a faster, more exiting version of itself. But i would love to see it.
Beastie
12-02-2010, 05:53 PM
Pool >>>>>> Snooker
Claymores
13-02-2010, 04:33 AM
Is tiddlywinks a sport or pastime? Is golf a sport or pastime? Is texas holdem as sport or pastime?
Not everybody can just do these things and even those who do have to practice 70 hours a week to be really good at it.
Is it a physical ability - snooker is certainly not. Is golf? emmmm? Is high jump a physical ability or ability to use a different stick than golfers or snooker players?
Answer my questions
Zippy
13-02-2010, 12:52 PM
No, it's a game.
My definition of sport is an activity that requires physical prowess.
People who play darts, snooker and golf do not look like athletes. Indeed, many top ranked players look unfit and/or old. They are more about skill and precision than physical ability.
And none of these activities are in the Olympics.
Claymores
13-02-2010, 01:07 PM
No, it's a game.
My definition of sport is an activity that requires physical prowess.
People who play darts, snooker and golf do not look like athletes. Indeed, many top ranked players look unfit and/or old. They are more about skill and precision than physical ability.
And none of these activities are in the Olympics.
Is driving a car a sport? Fat beggars drive rally cars really fast, F1 drivers have to keep the weight down and really fit as ounces cost 0.01 seconds. Your definition seems to fail in my head - where is the cut-off between rally and F1?
No, it's a game.
My definition of sport is an activity that requires physical prowess.
People who play darts, snooker and golf do not look like athletes. Indeed, many top ranked players look unfit and/or old. They are more about skill and precision than physical ability.
And none of these activities are in the Olympics.
And is skill and precision not merit enough to consider something a sport when it's pro ranking tournaments are watched by millions on sports channels?
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