Greece is Proof why the €uro is Not working as one

[arista]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1250094/Greece-debt-crisis-Britons-pay-3-5bn-bailout.html


The Euro is Selective
who they let in there club


Greece is not using the same standards as Germany and France.
But they are in the same €uro money.
So they will get in Debt even more
with even more new input of €uro Cash.



This is Why the UK
(Except a future Republic Of Scotland)
we will never get sucked into that Vortex of the €uro.




I am Sure Capt Remy
is with me on this.


Europe is Not United it is Split up into
those permitted to get into the Select €uro club.


Greece should ditch the Euro
and use the Universal Dollar.

[eye sea]

I suppose you're right, but then again all markets have gone **** up. :D

[arista]

I suppose you're right, but then again all markets have gone **** up. :D


Thats why Some Nations have said they will not pay for Greece
that makes the market more un stable.


But the Whole point of the €uro is one system
and Greece has there own system
that has made them , alone , bankrupt.


So it proves the €uro does not work.


Capt Remy knows all this as well


Europe is to selective
on who they let in,
Greece got in due to the Sports
and that wrecked them right up to their current death - now.


Germany anmd France have Standards
that Greece will never do.


Also in Greece now
they have Civil UnRest.

[Captain.Remy]

Well, Greece has always been a problem to solve for Europe. It's quite a complicated case but since last week, the EU Commission has been acting quite weird towards Greece. I just don't get why they wouldn't help them knowing they have one of the highest unemployment rate in Europe and its economy doesn't make it belong to the top European countries.

Fair enough, the Greek money management system is quite ****ed up but come on, I may not be an €uro fan, but Greek people need help from Europe right now. arista is right, €uro has proved it doesn't work quite well to help economic situations.
However, Europe isn't the USA, we're not a federation so the economic systems differ from one country to another hence some countries refusing to help Greece.

And we're still asking to see the point of having an European President, who's been useless so far.

[Ninastar]

Grease is a great film. What does it have to do with the euro!???







































:p

[Captain.Remy]

Right, I just became aware of Herman Van Rompuy announcing a settlement with Greece to help them but not providing them with any financial aid because "Greece needs to full fill its duties as an European country, there are rules to be respected. Angela Merkel said earlier today.

Interesting I think.

[arista]

Right, I just became aware of Herman Van Rompuy announcing a settlement with Greece to help them but not providing them with any financial aid because "Greece needs to full fill its duties as an European country, there are rules to be respected. Angela Merkel said earlier today.

Interesting I think.




Greece could be like what Turkey is Now,
not in the Euro.

[arista]

Grease is a great film. What does it have to do with the euro!???:p



Yes
thats why you a best off in Chat and Games
Hon.

[Ninastar]

*gives the finger*

[arista]

*gives the finger*


Yes very nice it is to.

[Ninastar]

:shocked:

[Shasown]

*gives the finger*

Hope you put a bit of lube on that,......... nothing worse than an unlubed finger........ maybe two unlubed fingers I suppose.

[Ninastar]

Pmsl. I never meant it like that in the first place.

[arista]

Pmsl. I never meant it like that in the first place.


Well you said it,
and you are better off in Chat and Games
Hon.

[arista]

Hope you put a bit of lube on that,......... nothing worse than an unlubed finger........ maybe two unlubed fingers I suppose.


Very True.

[Captain.Remy]

Greece could be like what Turkey is Now,
not in the Euro.

Speaking of this, Greece is having major problems with immigration as it's the eastern gate of Europe so not only they have a huge debt, but they can't get away with immigration. They're kind of screwed at the moment.

[arista]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worldnews/article-1250433/Greece-debt-bailout-EU-leaders-split-euro-crisis.html


David Cameron Confirmed we would never join the €uro.

Sticking plaster holding Greece up.

[Iceman]

Arista called it on Greece, props to you Arista, looks like the coutry will be bankrupt in 2 weeks time.

[setanta]

New World Order. We'll all be in the same boat eventually.

[Iceman]

New World Order. We'll all be in the same boat eventually.

Has this happened to a "well off" country since WWII??? i find it amazing the comments made today abotu fending for yourself and all...

[setanta]

Has this happened to a "well off" country since WWII??? i find it amazing the comments made today abotu fending for yourself and all...

Oh, wait awhile baby. I really think we'll all be in the shi% eventually. Well, we already are.

[Iceman]

Oh, wait awhile baby. I really think we'll all be in the shi% eventually. Well, we already are.

iirc we were put third on the list fo countries who are basically ****ed!! reckon we could make numero 2 by the end of May!!!???

[setanta]

iirc we were put third on the list fo countries who are basically ****ed!! reckon we could make numero 2 by the end of May!!!???

the bigwigs don't give two f£cks. They have it all sorted out.

[Iceman]

the bigwigs don't give two f£cks. They have it all sorted out.

reckon we'll be seeing Mr Punt again anytime soon?

[setanta]

reckon we'll be seeing Mr Punt again anytime soon?

Lol, mister ,"here do us a favour here and you can have a lock of spuds for your troubles". I'm telling you, we're bolloxed.

[Stu]

So we really are ****ed, eh? I know more about American politics than Irish, but you'd hear mixed reports all over the gaf.

What's going to be getting worse? I know it's a naive way of looking at things but the view from the ground seems to be okay. A bad recession with high unemployment, yeah, but I know plenty of people in jobs and the disposition seems as cheery as ever.

I'm never getting a job, are my :bawling:.

[Beastie]

the bigwigs don't give two f£cks. They have it all sorted out.

:laugh:

The big fat cats fending for themselves! Pretty much like most of us really!

[Iceman]

So we really are ****ed, eh? I know more about American politics than Irish, but you'd hear mixed reports all over the gaf.

What's going to be getting worse? I know it's a naive way of looking at things but the view from the ground seems to be okay. A bad recession with high unemployment, yeah, but I know plenty of people in jobs and the disposition seems as cheery as ever.

I'm never getting a job, are my :bawling:.

The debt is slowly crippling us....NAMA doesnt help neither does the big IT companies leaving......IBM gonna go completely and take a lot of jobs.....we owe more than the UK, that kind of put it onto perspective for me.

[setanta]

So we really are ****ed, eh? I know more about American politics than Irish, but you'd hear mixed reports all over the gaf.

What's going to be getting worse? I know it's a naive way of looking at things but the view from the ground seems to be okay. A bad recession with high unemployment, yeah, but I know plenty of people in jobs and the disposition seems as cheery as ever.

I'm never getting a job, are my :bawling:.

You're coming from the Irish perspective here....we've been f£cked for so long that the Celtic Tiger was a mere blip on our charts! I just think that politics means nothing at this stage and that there's a conglomerate of people and businesses who are in charge of the whole thing at this stage. We're at their mercy.

[Stu]

The debt is slowly crippling us....NAMA doesnt help neither does the big IT companies leaving......IBM gonna go completely and take a lot of jobs.....we owe more than the UK, that kind of put it onto perspective for me.
We always find a way though, look at us at the start of the 90's compared to the end. It's surreal how cyclic these things can be. Overoptimistic, I know.

[Beastie]

Become porn stars!!!!!

[Iceman]

We always find a way though, look at us at the start of the 90's compared to the end. It's surreal how cyclic these things can be. Overoptimistic, I know.

Well as far as I can tell next two weeks will be crucial......if Greece as a country announces bankruptcy, we're all ****ed. It's an unkown territory as far as i understand (my dad was telling me this earlier, usually im not clued into any of this, but he got me researching and im intrested now)

[Stu]

You're coming from the Irish perspective here....we've been f£cked for so long that the Celtic Tiger was a mere blip on our charts! I just think that politics means nothing at this stage and that there's a conglomerate of people and businesses who are in charge of the whole thing at this stage. We're at their mercy.
Yeah the vast majority of the country is sewn up in nationalist piggotry. We let the likes of Fianna Fail and the Catholic Church walk all over us and most of suburbia gleefully go along for the ride because it's 'Irish'.

The same people who rally GAA communities to protest headshops, bearing in mind Diageo is entertwined with the GAA and Guiness actually improves your hurling ability.

The tagline is even 'guiness is good for you' for **** sake. It's like priest, pints and a healthy sense of closeted racism is the aul Irish way.

But it's still a great place because the good folk have this whimsical 'ah sure **** it' view about it.

At this stage Bertie 'I don't know where it's all gone, lads, I had it a second ago' Ahern looks like one of the best things to ever happen to the country. It's that messed up.

[Iceman]

ah memories of the good auld Bertie Years.......who knew we'd want him back eh?

[setanta]

Yeah the vast majority of the country is sewn up in nationalist piggotry. We let the likes of Fianna Fail and the Catholic Church walk all over us and most of suburbia gleefully go along for the ride because it's 'Irish'.

The same people who rally GAA communities to protest headshops, bearing in mind Diageo is entertwined with the GAA and Guiness actually improves your hurling ability.

The tagline is even 'guiness is good for you' for **** sake. It's like priest, pints and a healthy sense of closeted racism is the aul Irish way.

But it's still a great place because the good folk have this whimsical 'ah sure **** it' view about it.

At this stage Bertie 'I don't know where it's all gone, lads, I had it a second ago' Ahern looks like one of the best things to ever happen to the country. It's that messed up.

Was he lucky or clever when he left the party? I feel he was just a lucky fecker, as per usual.

But nah, you should read or watch some of the stuff about the New World Order. Very enlightening.

Our democratic rights are being minimalized slowly but surely.

[Iceman]

^^ look at Lisbon treaty......we said no they didnt like it so we voted again??? why werent we allowed a third vote???

[setanta]

^^ look at Lisbon treaty......we said no they didnt like it so we voted again??? why werent we allowed a third vote???

Exactly baby. That's actually constitutionally illegal because no amendments were made. It was the same fecking paper!

[Iceman]

Exactly baby. That's actually constitutional illegal because no amendments were made. It was the same fecking paper!

Thats when i said to myself right **** were in the ****ter......complete bollocks was that Treaty and NAMA jesus dont get me started on NAMA

[Stu]

Was he lucky or clever when he left the party? I feel he was just a lucky fecker, as per usual.

But nah, you should read or watch some of the stuff about the New World Order. Very enlightening.

Our democratic rights are being minimalized slowly but surely.
I have read it all and I'm not sure what to think. I believe that our rights are being undermined. I don't believe for a second we are free. But the whole sinister imagery of the thing I don't buy into. They are *****, sure, but they don't meet in robes deliberately plotting ways to undermine us, and they don't feel the bizarre need to give themselves away in the most abstract methods of iconography known to man. Let's not give them that much credit. Just greedy morons.

I'm on the Chomsky end of the scale, taking David Icke to be the highest point of nuttyness.

^^ look at Lisbon treaty......we said no they didnt like it so we voted again??? why werent we allowed a third vote???
Because we were 'better informed' this time, apparently. This was our 'informed' vote. Not the first one. Sure we all stumbled into the polling stations blindfolded the first time, knocking over ballot boxes. Thank god Europe stepped in and showed us the light.

[setanta]

Because we were 'better informed' this time, apparently. This was our 'informed' vote. Not the first one. Sure we all stumbled into the polling stations blindfolded the first time, knocking over ballot boxes. Thank god Europe stepped in and showed us the light.

Please tell me that you're taking the pi$$, right?

[setanta]

Thats when i said to myself right **** were in the ****ter......complete bollocks was that Treaty and NAMA jesus dont get me started on NAMA

We're following suit. The states started it so we followed. It would have been the same thing if any party had been in charge. New World Order baby.

[Iceman]

were actually gonna be proper screwed and im just concerned that nobody really gives a **** about it....

[setanta]

were actually gonna be proper screwed and im just concerned that nobody really gives a **** about it....

Apathy. It's like Tubridy said on the Late Late a couple of weeks ago. If this had happened in France they would have revolted.

[Iceman]

Apathy. It's like Tubridy said on the Late Late a couple of weeks ago. If this had happened in France they would have revolted.

im deadly serious though i said it to a few people now (young and old) and they asked what i was on about......i was going, seriously?? you dont know whats happening....

[Stu]

Please tell me that you're taking the pi$$, right?
Of course.
were actually gonna be proper screwed and im just concerned that nobody really gives a **** about it....
That's the thing. Everyone, down to my own parents, have no idea how much they are getting ****ed over right in front of there faces. Why didn't everyone take to the ****ing streets when that yes vote came through? The only people making noise were Fianna Fail's little college society bum buddies patting themselves on the back for saving democracy.

We should put all those Vote Yes For Jobs[?] signs back up and they might get just how riddiculous the whole thing really is.

Apathy is as dangerous as the ***** that got us in this mess.

[setanta]

im deadly serious though i said it to a few people now (young and old) and they asked what i was on about......i was going, seriously?? you dont know whats happening....

Yeah, I'm with you here, but unfortunately it's very hard to shake people out of it when we're holding on like this.

[Iceman]

Of course.

That's the thing. Everyone, down to my own parents, have no idea how much they are getting ****ed over right in front of there faces. Why didn't everyone take to the ****ing streets when that yes vote came through? The only people making noise were Fianna Fail's little college society bum buddies patting themselves on the back for saving democracy.

We should put all those Vote Yes For Jobs[?] signs back up and they might get just how riddiculous the whole thing really is.

Apathy is as dangerous as the ***** that got us in this mess.

couldnt agree more it was so ****ed that they did that and we sat there and went okay.......we might as well all have bent over and went "go for it"

[Niamh.]

^^ look at Lisbon treaty......we said no they didnt like it so we voted again??? why werent we allowed a third vote???

Speaking of that, Brian Cowens reason for us voting Yes to the Lisbon treaty was, "we're a small nation, Europe don't need us but we need them" I heard a guy on the radio yesterday say he met Brian Cowen and asked him If we're such a small insignificant nation as you say how is it that our politicians are one of the highest paid in the world, he had no answer.

[arista]

New Dead Labour has Put UK Tax money into a €uro Ban Holding
who the will burn it in Doomed Dead Greece.


We are Skint and using our Tax for a Doomed €uro Mess
is Illegal.


Fecking Outrage.

[Angus]

New Dead Labour has Put UK Tax money into a €uro Ban Holding
who the will burn it in Doomed Dead Greece.


We are Skint and using our Tax for a Doomed €uro Mess
is Illegal.


Fecking Outrage.

Exactly. Who the ***** does Alastair Darling think he is, committing this country's money to shore up the *****ing Euro? - let them clean up their own mess with their own money.

[arista]

Exactly. Who the ***** does Alastair Darling think he is, committing this country's money to shore up the *****ing Euro? - let them clean up their own mess with their own money.



Yes its a Utta Outrage.



Feck the
Fecking €uroPoo

[Angus]

Haha German coalition in tatters because Angela Merkel committed so much money to shore up Greece - the German people ain't happy!

[arista]

http://news.sky.com/sky-news/content/StaticFile/jpg/2010/May/Week3/15635228.jpg

The German Leader Panics
stops Short Selling saying it will help the market
infact it made the World markets go down.


Germany has paid even more for Greece
against the Public view.


Greece is turning into a growing swamp
they should get out of the €uro Money system
for the sake of Eire, Spain and Germany.

[Angus]

So all that money that's been poured into propping up the Euro, including the millions pledged by Alastair Darling when he had technically just been kicked out of office, have had the opposite effect, and resulted in a run on the markets. Wow, all that money down the drain.

[arista]

So all that money that's been poured into propping up the Euro, including the millions pledged by Alastair Darling when he had technically just been kicked out of office, have had the opposite effect, and resulted in a run on the markets. Wow, all that money down the drain.


Yes more proof that New Labour
are/were
out of touch.

[arista]

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/business/comment/hamish-mcrae/hamish-mcrae-a-future-without-the-euro-is-a-distinct-possibility-1979947.html

Hamish McRae: A future without the euro is a distinct possibility.

http://news.sky.com/sky-news/content/StaticFile/jpg/2010/May/Week3/15636394.jpg



One thing any nation can do in Europe fast
is Ditch the €uro and transfer to the Dollar.
America will not mind
and it means they will have freedom to trade without German
Finger pointing.

Then watch the €uro go down the plugg hole
without being stuck to it.


The whole point of Europe is to be United
now Greece is pulling them all under
they are not United.

[Angus]

At least Cameron has told them straight - we are not going to shore up the Euro with British money - it would just be throwing good money after bad.

[arista]

At least Cameron has told them straight - we are not going to shore up the Euro with British money - it would just be throwing good money after bad.

Bang On Right.

We have enough Problems after New Labour
over spent our money.

[Shasown]

At least Cameron has told them straight - we are not going to shore up the Euro with British money - it would just be throwing good money after bad.

If only.


Thing is we pay into Europe on a yearly basis, if the European Union needs to borrow money to shore up its flawed currency unit, they borrow against our future payments.

Its not quite as simple as them being on the lookout for a sub till the next pay day.

Plus any fiscal measures Europe adopts to shore up the Euro will have a knock on effect on the day to day running of Europe and consequently onto us.