Reasons why cameron is not fit to run a country

[NettoSuperstar!]

1-30
http://www.clawsfour.com/100-reasons-not-to-vote-tory.html

31. Top economists hit back at Tories over spending cuts. More than 60 academics issue stinging rebuke George Osborne's claim that consensus of economic experts supports his policies

http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2010/feb/18/spending-cuts-economists-deficit

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/8523034.stm

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/politics/conservative/georgeosborne/6224723/Tory-public-spending-cuts-could-push-unemployment-to-5-million.html

32. The Conservatives are refusing to take part in a conference about the future of social care in England, as they say the summit is a "political ploy".

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/8522734.stm

33. Ignore the propaganda and spin – the Tory party hasn't changed

http://www.independent.co.uk/opinion/commentators/johann-hari/johann-hari-ignore-the-propaganda-and-spin-ndash-the-tory-party-hasnt-changed-1903987.html


The Tories cannot continue to fight the election on the vague promise of ‘change’
http://www.spectator.co.uk/politics/all/5749738/the-tories-cannot-continue-to-fight-the-election-on-the-vague-promise-of-change.thtml

34.JUSTICE: Tory plans to scrap the Human Rights Act 1998 would be a “legal and political nightmare”

http://www.judgments.co.uk/ShowArticle.aspx?ID=170&AspxAutoDetectCookieSupport=1

[ElProximo]

People could vote BNP and actually make a real difference.
They won't.
They will vote in either of the mainstream parties as usual. Nothing will change. Nobody will do anything about it.
Voters just prove that over and over again and again.

[NettoSuperstar!]

People could vote BNP and actually make a real difference.
They won't.
They will vote in either of the mainstream parties as usual. Nothing will change. Nobody will do anything about it.
Voters just prove that over and over again and again.

Lol@ make a real difference! wtf? yeh that would be a real difference matey but not one we want:joker:

[NettoSuperstar!]

35. Crime, family break-up, drunks and drugs: the Conservatives—and apparently plenty of voters—think that Britain has a “broken society”. Does the claim stand up

http://www.economist.com/world/britain/displayStory.cfm?story_id=15452867&source=hptextfeature

[NettoSuperstar!]

36. Cameron prioritises exit from EU social chapter

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2007/mar/06/eu.politics

then

Tories in disarray over Lisbon treaty

http://www.politics.co.uk/news/foreign-policy/tories-in-disarray-over-lisbon-treaty-$1303962.htm

David Cameron is deceiving voters by suggesting that he might still stage a referendum on the Lisbon Treaty, a senior government minister has said.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/politics/conservative/6425468/David-Camerons-pledge-on-Europe-misleading-says-minister.html
http://www.politics.co.uk/news/foreign-policy/tories-in-disarray-over-lisbon-treaty-$1303962.htm

[NettoSuperstar!]

37. his own senior party members think hes an incompetent dick

Ken Clarke questions David Cameron's social and economic policies

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/politics/4360596/Ken-Clarke-questions-David-Camerons-social-and-economic-policies.html

[andyman]

The slick salesman.. Yep always full of BS.

[Shasown]

Lovely posts one and all, but think you are wasting your time. Most of the active membership of this site are too young to vote this summer, and those left will be able to think for themselves.

Its obvious you really hate the conservative party, fair does, so come on give us all a laugh, who would you like us to vote for?

[NettoSuperstar!]

hehe Im just passin the time...Well theres only one choice left, your wasting votes voting for anyone else...sad but true, I know Gordons a plonker and Labour aint much better but thats a sad fact I'll have to live with

[Stacey.]

:nono: he said Lily Allens music isnt suitable for his children :/

[NettoSuperstar!]

:nono: he said Lily Allens music isnt suitable for his children :/

Good one Stacey I'll put that as 38

38. he said Lily Allens music isnt suitable for his children

[NettoSuperstar!]

39. http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_ZAn-ABmM9m4/S0eOLoiCEUI/AAAAAAAAIKo/Y72_uEMgwA4/s640/go4th.jpg

http://images.google.co.uk/imgres?imgurl=http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2010/01/14/article-1243254-07DB9065000005DC-197_634x316_popup.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1243254/Tax-breaks-richest-3-000-estates-Because-I-m-worth--Spoof-posters-mock-David-Camerons-election-campaign.html&usg=__vH5bCnWjVCyu3HDx1MpSpILl2Lk=&h=481&w=964&sz=83&hl=en&start=8&itbs=1&tbnid=rIFxxtdW4qnpuM:&tbnh=74&tbnw=148&prev=/images%3Fq%3Ddavid%2Bcameron%2Bposter%2Bspoof%26hl %3Den%26tbs%3Disch:1

[NettoSuperstar!]

40.

http://mydavidcameron.com/images/gauche1.jpg

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[Stacey.]

Good one Stacey I'll put that as 38

38. he said Lily Allens music isnt suitable for his children

:thumbs:

[King Gizzard]

41. Because he is a bellend toff

[NettoSuperstar!]

Nice one Nathan

[Shasown]

:nono: he said Lily Allens music isnt suitable for his children :/

He actually took his 6 yr old daughters Lily Allens CD of her because he thought some of the lyrics were unsuitable for a 6 yr old.

****ing and blowjobs arent really suitable for 6 yr olds, are they Netto, Stacey?

[NettoSuperstar!]

LoL

[Stacey.]

He actually took his 6 yr old daughters Lily Allens CD of her because he thought some of the lyrics were unsuitable for a 6 yr old.

****ing and blowjobs arent really suitable for 6 yr olds, are they Netto, Stacey?

well, who let them buy her CD in the first place? :shrug:

[Shasown]

well, who let them buy her CD in the first place? :shrug:

No Idea, you seem to have the inside scoop on what happens in his house perhaps you could tell us.

Parents do buy cd's/albums of their kids favourite singers/groups, for Christmas and birthdays etc, or even as a treat often ignoring that little sticker. (Parental Advisory Explicit Contents) and only realising the lyrics are unsuitable for their children upon hearing them played.

In fact if you go to sites like Play dot com and look at the CD picture you can see there is no advisory sticker on the images of her CDs.

http://www.play.com/Music/CD/4-/1021124/Alright-Still/Product.html#

http://www.play.com/Music/CD/4-/5984866/It-Not-Me-It-You/Product.html#


I know I have bought dvd's and cd's I initially thought were a good idea for my children, given them to them still sealed and only when listening to them or viewing them decided they werent suitable.

[NettoSuperstar!]

42. David Cameron is like a hollow Easter egg, with no bag of sweets inside. He's nothing. He's no one.

"The Conservative party
The Conservative party is an eternally irritating force for wrong that appeals exclusively to bigots, toffs, money-minded machine men, faded entertainers and selfish, grasping simpletons who were born with some essential part of their soul missing. None of history's truly historical figures has been a Tory, apart from the ones that were, and they only did it by mistake. To reach a more advanced stage of intellectual evolution, humankind must first eradicate the "Tory instinct" from the brain - which is why mother nature is gradually making them less sexy with each passing generation. The final Tory is doomed to spend his or her life masturbating alone on a hillside, which, let's face it, is the way things were supposed to be all along."

Charlie Brooker

http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2007/apr/02/comment.conservatives

[karezza]

I agree - David Cameron will make a great PM, unlike ugly, devious bully Brown.

[Crimson Dynamo]

42. David Cameron is like a hollow Easter egg, with no bag of sweets inside. He's nothing. He's no one.

"The Conservative party
The Conservative party is an eternally irritating force for wrong that appeals exclusively to bigots, toffs, money-minded machine men, faded entertainers and selfish, grasping simpletons who were born with some essential part of their soul missing. None of history's truly historical figures has been a Tory, apart from the ones that were, and they only did it by mistake. To reach a more advanced stage of intellectual evolution, humankind must first eradicate the "Tory instinct" from the brain - which is why mother nature is gradually making them less sexy with each passing generation. The final Tory is doomed to spend his or her life masturbating alone on a hillside, which, let's face it, is the way things were supposed to be all along."

Charlie Brooker

http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2007/apr/02/comment.conservatives

Charlie Brooker is a tv reviewer ffs


he is not some oracle:hugesmile:

[Mark]

http://i.imgur.com/Z818Z.jpg

Link contains explicit language, so click at your own peril :)

[Shasown]

http://i.imgur.com/z818z.jpg

link contains explicit language, so click at your own peril :)

pmsl

[cupid stunt]

You really don't like them toffs, do you! :hugesmile:

i dont think anyone likes posh bastards luv

[Stacey.]

No Idea, you seem to have the inside scoop on what happens in his house perhaps you could tell us.

Parents do buy cd's/albums of their kids favourite singers/groups, for Christmas and birthdays etc, or even as a treat often ignoring that little sticker. (Parental Advisory Explicit Contents) and only realising the lyrics are unsuitable for their children upon hearing them played.

In fact if you go to sites like Play dot com and look at the CD picture you can see there is no advisory sticker on the images of her CDs.

http://www.play.com/Music/CD/4-/1021124/Alright-Still/Product.html#

http://www.play.com/Music/CD/4-/5984866/It-Not-Me-It-You/Product.html#


I know I have bought dvd's and cd's I initially thought were a good idea for my children, given them to them still sealed and only when listening to them or viewing them decided they werent suitable.

The point is: its wrong to just accuse her of saying her music is 'unsuitable'..
he shouldnt let her listen to it! :bored:

[cupid stunt]

Extensive vocabulary as usual, luv!

yep its extensive enuff 4 me luv so u like dave cameron do ya well did ya know hes a corrupt ****

[WOMBAI]

yep its extensive enuff 4 me luv so u like dave cameron do ya well did ya know hes a corrupt ****

Did I say I liked him - another one that likes putting words in people's mouths, dear!

[cupid stunt]

Did I say I liked him - another one that likes putting words in people's mouths, dear!

your a troll aint ya

[WOMBAI]

your a troll aint ya

Oh somehow I think that applies much more to you! :joker:

[cupid stunt]

Did I say I liked him - another one that likes putting words in people's mouths, dear!

i bet you'd like to get something else in your mouth wunt u :joker:

[cupid stunt]

Oh somehow I think that applies much more to you! :joker:

how u work dat 1 out then sherlock

[WOMBAI]

i bet you'd like to get something else in your mouth wunt u :joker:

How old are you - about 10 - or the brain power of one, luv!

[WOMBAI]

how u work dat 1 out then sherlock

No - hardly surprising that it isn't obvious to you!

[cupid stunt]

How old are you - about 10 - or the brain power of one, luv!

nah im 20 nice try bet a reckon ur just a wind up merchant

[WOMBAI]

nah im 20 nice try bet a reckon ur just a wind up merchant

Nah! :joker:

[cupid stunt]

Nah! :joker:

ye in fact u remind me of sum **** from scallycentral called notonyournelly

[WOMBAI]

ye in fact u remind me of sum **** from scallycentral called notonyournelly

Took you a long time to come up with that! Wasn't worth the effort! :hugesmile:

[cupid stunt]

Took you a long time to come up with that! Wasn't worth the effort! :hugesmile:

i reckon u are dat twat u both seem 2 like arguin about bull****

[WOMBAI]

i reckon u are dat twat u both seem 2 like arguin about bull****

I love your reasoned debate!

[cupid stunt]

I love your reasoned debate!

better than the man hating crap wot u come out wiv int it

[WOMBAI]

better than the man hating crap wot u come out wiv int it

Oh here we go - someone has run out of something to say!

[cupid stunt]

Oh here we go - someone has run out of something to say!

ye i think its you wots run out ov tings 2 say

[WOMBAI]

ye i think its you wots run out ov tings 2 say

Your right, I have! :xyxwave:

[Tom4784]

I'm not voting, which will count for a vote for labour. It's the lesser of the evils.

[Shasown]

The point is: its wrong to just accuse her of saying her music is 'unsuitable'..
he shouldnt let her listen to it! :bored:

He didnt accuse her of anything, the comment about Lily Allen was taken slightly out of context, during an interview for Shortlist, he was actually talking about his daughter and himself arguing over the use of the cd player in his car, he mentioned she likes Lily Allen whereas he thought her lyrics are slightly unsuitable for a 6 year old.

This comment was picked up on and has since been exploited not only by his critics, but used by himself to announce he intends a future Conservative Government will take steps to protect children from inappropriate commercialisation and sexualisation. He wants to “make sure that our children get a childhood”.

Though how he intends to go about this god only knows, he did mention removing government advertising from agencies found guilty of inappropriate marketing to children. And providing a website specifically designed for parents to come together and complain about adverts they felt were inappropriate. Whoop whoop dee dooo

[karezza]

Only morons & muslims vote Labour.

[andyman]

Only morons & muslims vote Labour.That is like me saying.. All from Belfast are IRA scum. :p

[karezza]

That is like me saying.. All from Belfast are IRA scum. :p

Some from Belfast are IRA scum.:wavey:

[NettoSuperstar!]

Charlie Brooker is a tv reviewer ffs


he is not some oracle:hugesmile:

He is THE Oracle:nono:

[NettoSuperstar!]

43. His speeches are crap, banging on about change but not actually saying what that change will be (ie/ none as he hasnt got any idea)

[NettoSuperstar!]

44

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[ILoveTRW]

this thread infuriates me :mad:

[bananarama]

I'm not voting, which will count for a vote for labour. It's the lesser of the evils.

Understand why you might not want to vote......But how does not voting translate into a vote for Labour!!!!!!!!

[NettoSuperstar!]

this thread infuriates me :mad:

Do elaborate...

[NettoSuperstar!]

45. What a Twonk

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/politics/david-cameron/7530994/From-Boden-Man-to-Terminator-as-Cameron-goes-for-tough-look.html

[NettoSuperstar!]

46. It is very hard for the British people to make a serious choice in this election without talking about one factor above all others – class. This isn't about David Cameron's background; it's about his policies. It is a provable fact that he will redistribute wealth – substantially – but in a strange direction: from everyone in the big wide middle and bottom of British society, to the very top.

....Yes, the differences between New Labour and the Conservatives are far too small, on this as on all issues. There are myriad ways in which the current Government has also spoon-fed the super-rich. They cheer-led the economy-crashing deregulation of the banks; they turned Britain into a de facto tax haven for non-doms; when you add it all up, a tycoon still scandalously pays a lower proportion of his income in tax than his secretary.

But it is wrong to say, on this issue, there is no difference at all. The gap is real, and millions of people live in that gap. The Institute of Fiscal Studies just published a long-term study of how Labour's tax changes have affected different classes, compared to the last Tory government. It found that the richest 10 per cent have seen their incomes cut by 9 per cent, to pay for an increase in the incomes of the poorest 10 per cent. A rich man has lost on average £25,000 a year; a poor woman has gained on average £1,700 a year. I have seen these changes among my own family and friends: gaining £1,700 is the difference between struggling to pay the bills, or being able to give your kids a summer holiday. Yes, there should have been much more – but the cigarette paper between the parties is big enough to make a pretty fat roll-up. Cameron's policies make it pretty plain: this redistribution will be slammed into reverse by him, with state cash flowing in the opposite direction.


http://www.independent.co.uk/opinion/commentators/johann-hari/johann-hari-if-youre-looking-for-class-war-just-read-camerons-policies-1939666.html

http://www.ifs.org.uk/

http://www.ifs.org.uk/publications/4806

[DrunkerThanMoses]

Oh I love this thread

[Shasown]

46. It is very hard for the British people to make a serious choice in this election without talking about one factor above all others – class. This isn't about David Cameron's background; it's about his policies. It is a provable fact that he will redistribute wealth – substantially – but in a strange direction: from everyone in the big wide middle and bottom of British society, to the very top.

....Yes, the differences between New Labour and the Conservatives are far too small, on this as on all issues. There are myriad ways in which the current Government has also spoon-fed the super-rich. They cheer-led the economy-crashing deregulation of the banks; they turned Britain into a de facto tax haven for non-doms; when you add it all up, a tycoon still scandalously pays a lower


http://www.independent.co.uk/opinion/commentators/johann-hari/johann-hari-if-youre-looking-for-class-war-just-read-camerons-policies-1939666.html

http://www.ifs.org.uk/

http://www.ifs.org.uk/publications/4806

Yes and Labour have done wonders for poverty in the UK havent they?

This election briefing note finds strong evidence of an increase in the rate of severe poverty since 2004-05, mirroring a rise in the official poverty rate, although the rate of persistent poverty does seem to have fallen under Labour, at least until 2007.
http://www.ifs.org.uk/publications/4809
http://www.ifs.org.uk/publications/4808

[Tom4784]

Understand why you might not want to vote......But how does not voting translate into a vote for Labour!!!!!!!!

If you don't vote it automatically goes as a vote for the party currently in charge or something like that.

[cupid stunt]

If you don't vote it automatically goes as a vote for the party currently in charge or something like that.

seriously? WELL THEN PEOPLE NEED TO VOTE FOR LIB DEM, BECAUSE THAT EVIL BAS GORDON BROWN IS GONNA SEND THIS COUNTRY TO HELL

[BB_Eye]

With Straw committing Labour to libel reform and the Liberal Democrats signed up, what of the Tories?

Liberal Tories tell the Eye the partyis as commited to relaxing the laws as its rivals. They believe David Cameron won't stop at libel but will order a comprehensive review of all restrictions of free speech New Labour as imposed. But if he does, he will face ferocious opposition from within his party (and not just top suer and secrecy champion Lord Ashcroft).

The campaign against libel reform kicked off with a debate in the Commons in December 2008. Although Michael Gove, the Tory education spokesman, vigourously supported changing the law, the status quo was defended enthusiastically by his fellow Tory MPs. Chief among them was Edward Garnier, who announced: "I am a member of the defamation Bar, and I have earned my living and paid my mortgage thanks to the claimants and media organisations."

Pained by apparent Labour and Lib Dem criticism of Mr Justice Eady, Garnier added: "He is a friend of mine - we used to share a room in the chambers - and an extremely bright, careful and sensitive man."

Later, when Carter-**** (notoriously greedy law firm Carter-Ruck for those wondering) went to parliament to tell MPs that they, s lawyers, were right to defy centuries of parliamentary privilege and threaten to injunct the questions from Labour MP Paul Farrelly in the Trafigura affair, Garnier sat next to the Carter-****ers and could not have been chummier. This would matter less if he were not set to be attorney-general in a Cameron government.
- Private Eye

So much for "changing politics", eh Cameron?

[NettoSuperstar!]

Yes and Labour have done wonders for poverty in the UK havent they?


http://www.ifs.org.uk/publications/4809
http://www.ifs.org.uk/publications/4808

Yeh bit of a mountain to climb after Thatcher eh! Labour havent done as much as they should I'll grant you but have tried! Its not just about tackling poverty, its about fairness and looking after the majority not the fat cats at the top. There is no chance of bridging the gap under a Tory govt.

"...the truth is that we are suffering the impact of the massive increases in income inequality under Thatcher, which Blair and Brown have since failed to reverse. In the 1980s the gulf between the top and bottom 20% widened by a full 60% – much the most dramatic widening of income differences on record. Since then there have been only minor fluctuations under Major, Blair and Brown. The result is that the gap between the top and bottom 20% in Britain is twice as big as among our more equal European partners.

Almost all of Gordon Brown's budgets did at least something to redistribute from rich to poor. But because the benefit was entirely offset by the unconstrained rise in top earnings, he can claim no more than having prevented a greater rise in inequality...."


http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2010/jan/29/social-mobility-inequality-conservative-thatcher


"Income inequality
The latest data show that in 2007–08 income inequality was slightly higher than when Labour
came to power and higher than in any year since at least the 1950s. However, the rise in
income inequality under Labour is far smaller than the rise observed under the Conservatives
during the 1980s....Furthermore, Labour’s tax and benefit reforms have reduced income inequality compared
with the normal practice of the previous Conservative government of increasing all benefits and tax
credits broadly in line with prices. In other words, Labour’s tax and benefit reforms seem to have
prevented a larger rise in income inequality."

http://www.ifs.org.uk/bns/bn89.pdf

[NettoSuperstar!]

With Straw committing Labour to libel reform and the Liberal Democrats signed up, what of the Tories?

Liberal Tories tell the Eye the partyis as commited to relaxing the laws as its rivals. They believe David Cameron won't stop at libel but will order a comprehensive review of all restrictions of free speech New Labour as imposed. But if he does, he will face ferocious opposition from within his party (and not just top suer and secrecy champion Lord Ashcroft).

The campaign against libel reform kicked off with a debate in the Commons in December 2008. Although Michael Gove, the Tory education spokesman, vigourously supported changing the law, the status quo was defended enthusiastically by his fellow Tory MPs. Chief among them was Edward Garnier, who announced: "I am a member of the defamation Bar, and I have earned my living and paid my mortgage thanks to the claimants and media organisations."

Pained by apparent Labour and Lib Dem criticism of Mr Justice Eady, Garnier added: "He is a friend of mine - we used to share a room in the chambers - and an extremely bright, careful and sensitive man."

Later, when Carter-**** (notoriously greedy law firm Carter-Ruck for those wondering) went to parliament to tell MPs that they, s lawyers, were right to defy centuries of parliamentary privilege and threaten to injunct the questions from Labour MP Paul Farrelly in the Trafigura affair, Garnier sat next to the Carter-****ers and could not have been chummier. This would matter less if he were not set to be attorney-general in a Cameron government.
- Private Eye

So much for "changing politics", eh Cameron?

Stick a 47 on that my good man

[NettoSuperstar!]

48. Eddie Izzard says so and EeZer top geeZer!

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http://www2.labour.org.uk/eddie-izzards-brilliant-britain--labour-election-film-

[Firewire]

I hate David Cameron.

If the torries get into power, they will tear Britain right down. Also, about 10 millionaires will be in the parliament. They are all for the rich.

[Shasown]

I hate David Cameron.

If the torries get into power, they will tear Britain right down. Also, about 10 millionaires will be in the parliament. They are all for the rich.

Do you mean like Lord Mandelson, Sir Neil Kinnock (the man who would never wear ermine, as soon as the expenses etc in Europe started to be reduced he changed his mind), Sir Alan Sugar (Labour peer and donator) or perhaps Lord Salisbury?

David Cameron has 19 millionaires serving in his Shadow Cabinet.
There are 26 millionaire Labour MPs, and 3 Lib-Dem millionaire MPs. (Daily Telegraph)

[BB_Eye]

Do you mean like Lord Mandelson, Sir Neil Kinnock (the man who would never wear ermine, as soon as the expenses etc in Europe started to be reduced he changed his mind), Sir Alan Sugar (Labour peer and donator) or perhaps Lord Salisbury?

David Cameron has 19 millionaires serving in his Shadow Cabinet.
There are 26 millionaire Labour MPs, and 3 Lib-Dem millionaire MPs. (Daily Telegraph)

I'm not surprised. Whether the Tories or Labour are in power is completely immaterial to your average big business CEO. It is always the lower middle classes and even the working class that bear the brunt of the tax burden while the wealth gap widens further and further. The only difference is that we get a more volatile economy under Cameron as taxes and public spending are rolled back and more wasteful bureaucracy under Labour. Take your pick everyone. :tongue:

[NettoSuperstar!]

49. The UK economy is forecast to outstrip its G7 peers in the second quarter of this year, says the Organisation for Economic Co-operation and Development....thanks to Gordons actions, dont let Cameron **** it all up!

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/8606499.stm

[Shasown]

49. The UK economy is forecast to outstrip its G7 peers in the second quarter of this year, says the Organisation for Economic Co-operation and Development....thanks to Gordons actions, dont let Cameron **** it all up!

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/8606499.stm

Thats because of the ability of British Businesses to bounce back, and the Bank of England being freed from governmental interference, not because of any action Gordon undertook during the recession.

Oh I get you Gordons plan of action was to take no action, sort of suck it and see?

[NettoSuperstar!]

Thats because of the ability of British Businesses to bounce back, and the Bank of England being freed from governmental interference, not because of any action Gordon undertook during the recession.

Oh I get you Gordons plan of action was to take no action, sort of suck it and see?

Nah that was Camerons plan!

[Shasown]

Nah that was Camerons plan!

A supposition born out of your pathological hatred of all things tory, (was that genetic or brought on environmentally do you think?), given that Cameron wasnt in power. So we will never really know what would have happened if he had of been.

Whereas the point I made was proven by Browns inaction and indeciveness.

[Angus]

46. It is very hard for the British people to make a serious choice in this election without talking about one factor above all others – class. This isn't about David Cameron's background; it's about his policies. It is a provable fact that he will redistribute wealth – substantially – but in a strange direction: from everyone in the big wide middle and bottom of British society, to the very top.

....Yes, the differences between New Labour and the Conservatives are far too small, on this as on all issues. There are myriad ways in which the current Government has also spoon-fed the super-rich. They cheer-led the economy-crashing deregulation of the banks; they turned Britain into a de facto tax haven for non-doms; when you add it all up, a tycoon still scandalously pays a lower proportion of his income in tax than his secretary.

But it is wrong to say, on this issue, there is no difference at all. The gap is real, and millions of people live in that gap. The Institute of Fiscal Studies just published a long-term study of how Labour's tax changes have affected different classes, compared to the last Tory government. It found that the richest 10 per cent have seen their incomes cut by 9 per cent, to pay for an increase in the incomes of the poorest 10 per cent. A rich man has lost on average £25,000 a year; a poor woman has gained on average £1,700 a year. I have seen these changes among my own family and friends: gaining £1,700 is the difference between struggling to pay the bills, or being able to give your kids a summer holiday. Yes, there should have been much more – but the cigarette paper between the parties is big enough to make a pretty fat roll-up. Cameron's policies make it pretty plain: this redistribution will be slammed into reverse by him, with state cash flowing in the opposite direction.


http://www.independent.co.uk/opinion/commentators/johann-hari/johann-hari-if-youre-looking-for-class-war-just-read-camerons-policies-1939666.html

http://www.ifs.org.uk/

http://www.ifs.org.uk/publications/4806

Well, perhaps if the Labour Party had controlled immigration which has now reached epic proportions, there would be a lot more wealth to distribute to those of us poor saps who work and pay taxes in this country, and are fed up to the back teeth seeing it being handed blithely over to all and sundry (and sometimes to a fair few who are here illegally!).

[Angus]

I hate David Cameron.

If the torries get into power, they will tear Britain right down. Also, about 10 millionaires will be in the parliament. They are all for the rich.

Oh dear, why is the vote given to people who have no idea what they are talking about?

[King Gizzard]

http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/47684000/jpg/_47684659_egg226bbc.jpg

I love this egg

[Angus]

If you don't vote it automatically goes as a vote for the party currently in charge or something like that.

Good grief - the ignorance displayed about the political system in this country is staggering - I really believe there everyone should have to take a test to ensure they actually know how the system works and what each party stands for before they are allowed anywhere near a voting booth. After all, the votes of idiots and morons could well propel us into a future with another Labour government.

[AndyJK]

NettoSuperstar!, you are obviously an apparatchik of the Labour party, and as a Tory its pointless attempting to respond, discuss or debate over anything you've posted here sensibly so I wont bother. You clearly feel very proud of yourself though.

On Facebook I have noticed lots of groups set up for people to join to vent their bile and hate towards everything Tory related. I have seen some of the comments like "death to all tories" "all tories are scum" etc etc. Pretty nasty stuff. Yet ironically its these people who say its tories are the nasty party of hate. Theyre easy to find on facebook if anyone is interested or wants to join. I expect NettoSuperstar! has already. He'll be in his element spewing out all the bile and diatribes to a respective audience eager to reply with an "lol".

[King Gizzard]

http://www.facebook.com/#!/event.php?eid=114120815277714&ref=nf

:dance:

[NettoSuperstar!]

:tongue:NettoSuperstar!, you are obviously an apparatchik of the Labour party, and as a Tory its pointless attempting to respond, discuss or debate over anything you've posted here sensibly so I wont bother. You clearly feel very proud of yourself though.

On Facebook I have noticed lots of groups set up for people to join to vent their bile and hate towards everything Tory related. I have seen some of the comments like "death to all tories" "all tories are scum" etc etc. Pretty nasty stuff. Yet ironically its these people who say its tories are the nasty party of hate. Theyre easy to find on facebook if anyone is interested or wants to join. I expect NettoSuperstar! has already. He'll be in his element spewing out all the bile and diatribes to a respective audience eager to reply with an "lol".

Bite Me:hugesmile:

PS debate all you like...tip: read what people have actually wrote first

[NettoSuperstar!]

Well, perhaps if the Labour Party had controlled immigration which has now reached epic proportions, there would be a lot more wealth to distribute to those of us poor saps who work and pay taxes in this country, and are fed up to the back teeth seeing it being handed blithely over to all and sundry (and sometimes to a fair few who are here illegally!).

Ahaha yeh thats it blame everything on the immigrants lol, nevermind the large proportion that contribute to the economy and our own homegrown drain on resources...All parties are cracking down on immigration which is needed as we cant contain too many people obviously, but Cameron's policies are pie in the sky wishy washy unworkable in the global world we're living in

"•Research from the National Institute of Economic and Social research found that 17 percent of economic growth between 2004 and 2005 was a result of immigration.
•Migrants are net contributors to the public purse and therefore subsidise services for UK born residents. Immigrants paid £41.2 billion in tax during 2003-4, according to IPPR.
•Any reduction in student visas would devastate higher and further education. Students from overseas contribute at least £3.74 billion annually to UK universities and add £1 billion in GDP. Border and Immigration Minister Phil Woolas said that overseas students are worth £8.5 billion to the UK economy.
•The public sector could not function without immigration: a third of doctors and dentists qualified abroad, according to Migration Watch. Almost half (47 percent) of nurses in London are immigrants"

[NettoSuperstar!]

A supposition born out of your pathological hatred of all things tory, (was that genetic or brought on environmentally do you think?), given that Cameron wasnt in power. So we will never really know what would have happened if he had of been.

Whereas the point I made was proven by Browns inaction and indeciveness.

No ok funny I thought he was pretty decisive and coordinated, he only bailed the banks out persuaded Obama and others to do the same, (something Cameron didnt agree to yet had no viable alternative suggestions of his own), introduced fiscal stimulus plans and encouraged others to do the same, now we're starting to show signs of lifting out of recession ahead of predictions...I think its quite clear what cameron would and will do, take an axe to public services and put the majority in the crap, create high unemployment and send us into double dip recession

[NettoSuperstar!]

50, Dr Who says so and he is da timelord innit!

"I would rather have a prime minister who is the cleverest person in the room, than a prime minister who looks good in a suit."

"I think David Cameron is a terrifying prospect," added the 38-year-old star.

The Scottish actor, a long-term Labour supporter who appeared in a party political broadcast in 2005, likened the Conservative leader to "a regional newsreader who will jump on whatever bandwagon flies past".

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/8449895.stm

Ok the old Dr Who...but lets face it he was da best

[Angus]

50, Dr Who says so and he is da timelord innit!

"I would rather have a prime minister who is the cleverest person in the room, than a prime minister who looks good in a suit."

"I think David Cameron is a terrifying prospect," added the 38-year-old star.

The Scottish actor, a long-term Labour supporter who appeared in a party political broadcast in 2005, likened the Conservative leader to "a regional newsreader who will jump on whatever bandwagon flies past".

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/8449895.stm


Well what do you expect? Tennant is Scottish, as is Brown, and we English are fed up to the back teeth subsidising the Scots who supposedly wish to be independent and devolve from the Union, yet still receive massive financial handouts from the English.


By the way Brown is an unelected Prime Minister utterly lacking in integrity and decency or he would have called a General Election when Blair, the traitor and war monger resigned. Instead he has clung on by his fingertips dragging this once great country right down in the sh*t.

[Angus]

No ok funny I thought he was pretty decisive and coordinated, he only bailed the banks out persuaded Obama and others to do the same, (something Cameron didnt agree to yet had no viable alternative suggestions of his own), introduced fiscal stimulus plans and encouraged others to do the same, now we're starting to show signs of lifting out of recession ahead of predictions...I think its quite clear what cameron would and will do, take an axe to public services and put the majority in the crap, create high unemployment and send us into double dip recession

Seeing as how Brown (when he was Chancellor of the Exchequer) was enormously influential in landing us in the financial mess we now find ourselves in, is it any wonder? Labour have always been good at one thing, and that is massive borrowing and chucking money at unworthy causes, they always have done, always will - theirs has always been the politics of envy and mediocrity.

[Lucy.]

He wears too much foundation in his posters?

[Angus]

NettoSuperstar!, you are obviously an apparatchik of the Labour party, and as a Tory its pointless attempting to respond, discuss or debate over anything you've posted here sensibly so I wont bother. You clearly feel very proud of yourself though.

On Facebook I have noticed lots of groups set up for people to join to vent their bile and hate towards everything Tory related. I have seen some of the comments like "death to all tories" "all tories are scum" etc etc. Pretty nasty stuff. Yet ironically its these people who say its tories are the nasty party of hate. Theyre easy to find on facebook if anyone is interested or wants to join. I expect NettoSuperstar! has already. He'll be in his element spewing out all the bile and diatribes to a respective audience eager to reply with an "lol".

Typical Labourite actually - full of envy and spite, shouting down all requests for serious debate about the huge level of immigration to this country with screams of "racism". Such intimidation has unfortunately had the desired effect in that people have been too afraid to voice dissent about the open border policies adopted by Labour for fear of persecution by the thought police. Even Trevor Phillips of the Commission for Racial Equality has been vociferous about his concerns about uncontrolled immigration. Now we find ourselves in the sh*t and one has to wonder what is the Labour Party Agenda?

Fact is that for every immigrant who contributes to our economy, we have nine who we have to support within an infrastructure straining at the seams and on the point of collapse. No matter what spin Labour tries to put on it, us poor saps who live in the real world know the score. We have to battle and compete for every service and resource. And for the record, I came to this country when I was 4 years old and my family never expected, nor did they receive, special treatment. I was brought up in a council flat and went to a comprehensive till I was 16 at which time I left to go to work and contribute to my family's finances. I don't believe the world owes me a living, and I certainly don't expect to be shoved to the back of the queue for everything after paying into the system all these years.

The Labour Party are traitors to this country and in my book anyone crazy enough to vote them back in are either incredibly stupid or cynically self serving, but unfortunately its my family and yours who will have to face the consequences which I fear would be the total annihilation of this country.

[Shasown]

50, Dr Who says so and he is da timelord innit!

"I would rather have a prime minister who is the cleverest person in the room, than a prime minister who looks good in a suit."

"I think David Cameron is a terrifying prospect," added the 38-year-old star.

The Scottish actor, a long-term Labour supporter who appeared in a party political broadcast in 2005, likened the Conservative leader to "a regional newsreader who will jump on whatever bandwagon flies past".

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/8449895.stm

Ah Netto once again you show how ignorant you are in the ways of the real world and how rooted in the past you are. Doctor Who actor Matt Smith isnt 38 year old. Nor is he Scottish, should I continue with a lot more contradictions to your post? :wink:

[NettoSuperstar!]

Ah Netto once again you show how ignorant you are in the ways of the real world and how rooted in the past you are. Doctor Who actor Matt Smith isnt 38 year old. Nor is he Scottish, should I continue with a lot more contradictions to your post? :wink:

Haha

[NettoSuperstar!]

Typical Labourite actually - full of envy and spite, shouting down all requests for serious debate about the huge level of immigration to this country with screams of "racism". Such intimidation has unfortunately had the desired effect in that people have been too afraid to voice dissent about the open border policies adopted by Labour for fear of persecution by the thought police. Even Trevor Phillips of the Commission for Racial Equality has been vociferous about his concerns about uncontrolled immigration. Now we find ourselves in the sh*t and one has to wonder what is the Labour Party Agenda?

Fact is that for every immigrant who contributes to our economy, we have nine who we have to support within an infrastructure straining at the seams and on the point of collapse. No matter what spin Labour tries to put on it, us poor saps who live in the real world know the score. We have to battle and compete for every service and resource. And for the record, I came to this country when I was 4 years old and my family never expected, nor did they receive, special treatment. I was brought up in a council flat and went to a comprehensive till I was 16 at which time I left to go to work and contribute to my family's finances. I don't believe the world owes me a living, and I certainly don't expect to be shoved to the back of the queue for everything after paying into the system all these years.

The Labour Party are traitors to this country and in my book anyone crazy enough to vote them back in are either incredibly stupid or cynically self serving, but unfortunately its my family and yours who will have to face the consequences which I fear would be the total annihilation of this country.

I beg your pardon, obviously immigration needs to be tackled noone would deny it, but the conservatives are just extremely short sighted and inept in their plans to tackle such a global issue, simply putting a cap on it is not the answer. All too often immigrants are made the scapegoat for problems that occur from a lack of public spending...which will only get worse from here on in

[NettoSuperstar!]

Seeing as how Brown (when he was Chancellor of the Exchequer) was enormously influential in landing us in the financial mess we now find ourselves in, is it any wonder? Labour have always been good at one thing, and that is massive borrowing and chucking money at unworthy causes, they always have done, always will - theirs has always been the politics of envy and mediocrity.

How was that? He's been calling for international financial regulation for years...pity noone listened to him

[NettoSuperstar!]

51 He wears too much foundation in his posters?

Good one:hugesmile:

[Angus]

How was that? He's been calling for international financial regulation for years...pity noone listened to him

You've clearly swallowed Labour spin hook line and sinker. Not only is Brown one of the worst Chancellors ever, he is definitely in the top three worst Prime Ministers ever.

It's all academic anyway since Cameron will be in charge tomorrow.

[NettoSuperstar!]

You've clearly swallowed Labour spin hook line and sinker. Not only is Brown one of the worst Chancellors ever, he is definitely in the top three worst Prime Ministers ever.

It's all academic anyway since Cameron will be in charge tomorrow.

Hows that then?

[NettoSuperstar!]

Last chance guys STOP DAVE

heres the best way to vote in your area to keep Dave out...you know it makes sense

http://www.theobverse.com/stopdave/

[Angus]

The countdown to the ceremonial booting out of the Labour mob has started - Dave gets the keys to No 10 tomorrow - yaaay!

[NettoSuperstar!]

...So drop your pants everyone and prepare to get ****ed by the Tories (unless you have a double barrel surname or live in t'south)...says something doesnt it when Gordon Brown the most unpopular prime minister for years doesnt even get a right royal whipping on election day! Good Luck UK we're gonna need it

[Crimson Dynamo]

Reasons why Cameron is PM

1. he won

[NettoSuperstar!]

Reasons why Cameron is PM

1. he won

Oh put yer trumpet away, hes not got it yet:nono:

[Crimson Dynamo]

Oh put yer trumpet away, hes not got it yet:nono:

Sam Cam is already on the John Lewis website looking at curtains and stair carpets for No 10.

[NettoSuperstar!]

Sam Cam is already on the John Lewis website looking at curtains and stair carpets for No 10.

lol