Foxhunting is coming back

[Crimson Dynamo]

Now that the Bun has decided that the Posh Eton Tories will be the new (English and Irish) government, one of the 1st things they will bring back is fox hunting

that is good in my book. how does it look in yours?

[InOne]

Bad, PETA are gonna go mental.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Bad, PETA are gonna go mental.

Andre can keep his oily nose out of this

[Ninastar]

No! Its horrible :'(

[Crimson Dynamo]

No! Its horrible :'(

what is?

a fox killing a new born lamb?

[WOMBAI]

what is?

a fox killing a new born lamb?

If foxes need culling - there are more humane ways of doing it! To enjoy it as a sport - speaks volumes about those that participate!

[Crimson Dynamo]

If foxes need culling - there are more humane ways of doing it! To enjoy it as a sport - speaks volumes about those that participate!

like they ever catch them..

live by the sword die by the sword

humane culling?

no

mother nature

yes

[Captain.Remy]

Good, my girlfriend needs a new coat. :hugesmile:














Kidding.

[Stu]

It's not mother nature. Fox's don't mount horses and organize lamb killing activities because they enjoy it. They do it because they are wild animals - something I'm sure these stuck up wankers would object to being called.

[Shasown]

I hope they do bring it back but only for one fox, that really annoying bastard fox Basil Brush.

[Harry!]

I hope they do bring it back but only for one fox, that really annoying bastard fox Basil Brush.

Ha ha ha boom boom (Hears gun shot)

[Tom4784]

I couldn't give a ***** either way. There's bigger things to concern ourselves with then foxes.

[Vicky.]

Fox hunting is disgusting.

Anyone who partakes in it is a disgusting vile excuse for a human.

Same for anyone who thinks its ok.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Fox hunting is disgusting.

Anyone who partakes in it is a disgusting vile excuse for a human.

Same for anyone who thinks its ok.

is a typical non-informed "disney character" response


get into the country and speak to a farmer lassie and stop watching Michaela Strachan

[Crimson Dynamo]

It's not mother nature. Fox's don't mount horses and organize lamb killing activities because they enjoy it. They do it because they are wild animals - something I'm sure these stuck up wankers would object to being called.

they "occasionally" die they way the live.

how do you view say the slaughter of cattle for common workers who eat macdonalds?

[Vicky.]

yeah, il talk to whoever you want...but I would still have the same view.

Killing animals for fun, especially the way they do while foxhunting is inhumane and disgusting.

and comparing it to a fox killing a lamb...is just a ridiculous comparison...foxs are wild...then again, it could be argued that people who enjoy foxhunting are also wild animals...not evolved in the brain area yet...

[Ninastar]

what is?

a fox killing a new born lamb?

They need to live. Its just how life is.

[Harry!]

By the way I am against fox hunting and I dont think it should be allowed at all.

[Crimson Dynamo]

They need to live. Its just how life is.

well we dont need to kill any animal to live but we kill millions daily so how does that work?

[Stu]

they "occasionally" die they way the live.

how do you view say the slaughter of cattle for common workers who eat macdonalds?
I'm a vegetarian. That's how I view it. Nice try.

Please don't compare a cognitive, fully functioning domesticated homo sapien killing a fox for fun to a fox killing a lamb. Your smarter than that.

[Ninastar]

well we dont need to kill any animal to live but we kill millions daily so how does that work?

We need to kill some of the animals for food and the other people who kill animals are just bastards.

[Stu]

We need to kill some of the animals for food and the other people who kill animals are just bastards.
Wrong. Plenty of other food out in the world to eat but meat. Sorry, but you can't have your cake and eat it. Killing animals is killing animals. Bottom line. Both are as unnecessary as the other unless your living in a climate that necessitates the eating of an animal for survival.

What the toffs do is worse, but only just. Double standards still exist if your going to hold the view that eating meat is good but killing foxes is bad.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Wrong. Plenty of other food out in the world to eat but meat. Sorry, but you can't have your cake and eat it. Killing animals is killing animals. Bottom line. Both are as unnecessary as the other unless your living in a climate that necessitates the eating of an animal for survival.

who says it is wrong?

[Stu]

who says it is wrong?
You do :

well we dont need to kill any animal to live but we kill millions daily so how does that work?

I think your getting things mixed up here. I was pointing out like you were that's it's wrong to say we need to kill animals for food. Which is of course 100% factual. We don't.

[Crimson Dynamo]

You do :



I think your getting things mixed up here. I was pointing out like you were that's it's wrong to say we need to kill animals for food. Which is of course 100% factual.

no, i am merely pointing out the hypocrisy of the "ooh the poor fox" brigade who happily munch on animals who get slaughtered in a far more vile and violent way. (like sheep and cattle).

Whilst we eat these animals we dont really need to just like we dont really need to hunt foxes, just shoot them (but that actually takes quite a bit of effort from the farmer who happily lets Lord Cheese and his nobs do it for him)

[Stu]

no, i am merely pointing out the hypocrisy of the "ooh the poor fox" brigade who happily munch on animals who get slaughtered in a far more vile and violent way. (like sheep and cattle).

Whilst we eat these animals we dont really need to just like we dont really need to hunt foxes, just shoot them (but that actually takes quite a bit of effort from the farmer who happily lets Lord Cheese and his nobs do it for him)
Err ... yeah ... I'm point out the exact same thing?

I don't see the complication.

At least given my personal opinion on the matter I have sufficient privileges to be on the poor Fox brigade because I'm not in the process of devouring a Lamb. You may disagree with my views on Fox hunting but nobody can accuse me of double standards unlike Ninastar.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Err ... yeah ... I'm point out the exact same thing?

I don't see the complication.

At least given my personal opinion on the matter I have sufficient privileges to be on the poor Fox brigade because I'm not in the process of devouring a Lamb. You may disagree with my views on Fox hunting but nobody can accuse me of double standards unlike Ninastar.

and as a meat eater and supporter of fox-hunting i can also claim non ds status


cow hunting

now that would be a sport

[Stu]

and as a meat eater and supporter of fox-hunting i can also claim non ds status


cow hunting

now that would be a sport
Where's the challenge in that? They just stand around.

Chicken hunting is the future. Just toffs, pitchforks and chickens in a pit. Put it on Pay Per View and watch the revenues fly in.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Where's the challenge in that? They just stand around.

Chicken hunting is the future. Just toffs, pitchforks and chickens in a pit. Put it on Pay Per View and watch the revenues fly in.

Hosted by Tiger Woods and Fearne Cotton


each week they disappears at the end of the show and all you can hear is farmyard noises until the credits come up.

classic Sky TV show that

[Twilight]

Killing animals for fun is sick,fact.
They kill cattle to live,people that fox hunt are doing for fun:/

[Jords]

Ninastar wont be pleased!!

Edit: Just noticed shes already posted, I think its wrong killing animals for no specific reason but for fun too.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Killing animals for fun is sick,fact.
They kill cattle to live,people that fox hunt are doing for fun:/

It is not for fun. It is at the request of the landowner/farmer who has a fox problem (most do).

We do not kill animals to live, we kill them to make money.

[Captain.Remy]

My girlfriend doesn't want a fox coat anymore, she wants something more like "zebra". I guess I'll have to wait until next year. :laugh:

[Nicky.]

We need to kill some of the animals for food and the other people who kill animals are just bastards.

Well, fox hunting is killing for food, in the chain!
If they don't kill *some* of the foxes, then them foxes eat the sheep, and therefore, less sheep for us to eat. Therefore again, more sheep will need to be bred to be killed, which will either be humans or the hunt...
So even though they're killing foxes, they're saving extra sheep being bred to be killed.

That's how I look at it anyway, I'm glad it's coming back! A few foxes killed to save loads of sheep is a good thing, in my book!

[Stu]

It is not for fun. It is at the request of the landowner/farmer who has a fox problem (most do).

We do not kill animals to live, we kill them to make money.
Oh come on, plenty of toff's see it as an event. They enjoy it. You know that. It's ceremony.

The horseback? The drinks? The trumpet blowing? Why not just hire trained people to get down and dirty and kill the foxes if it's really just to get rid of them.

Trumpets. Hmm ...

[Crimson Dynamo]

My girlfriend doesn't a fox coat anymore, she wants something more like "zebra". I guess I'll have to wait until next year. :laugh:

I have heard that Zebra coats are very slimming

[Crimson Dynamo]

Oh come on, plenty of toff's see it as an event. They enjoy it. You know that. It's ceremony.

The horseback? The drinks? The trumpet blowing? Why not just hire trained people to get down and dirty and kill the foxes if it's really just to get rid of them.

Trumpets. Hmm ...

one word

because they do it for free


tally hooooooooooooooooe

[Stu]

I can't believe people still think it's primarily a sheep culling practice and nothing more. LOL.

Go watch some documentaries or something. Christ almighty.

[Mystic Mock]

[QUOTE=LeatherTrumpet;30 I ****ing hate judas iscariot[/QUOTE]

:shocked:

[Sophii3x]

Well as a veggie and a person who's completely against cruelty against animals, I hope to god it isn't legalised again!

[WOMBAI]

Well, fox hunting is killing for food, in the chain!
If they don't kill *some* of the foxes, then them foxes eat the sheep, and therefore, less sheep for us to eat. Therefore again, more sheep will need to be bred to be killed, which will either be humans or the hunt...
So even though they're killing foxes, they're saving extra sheep being bred to be killed.

That's how I look at it anyway, I'm glad it's coming back! A few foxes killed to save loads of sheep is a good thing, in my book!

That is a crap excuse! There are more humane ways of killing them - therefore it is only done for sport! I would love to see some of those b****rds themselves hunted down and ripped to pieces - now wouldn't THAT be FUN! :hugesmile:

[Stu]

:shocked:
Wow your a ****.

[Mystic Mock]

Wow i love depeche mode.

huh

[Crimson Dynamo]

That is a crap excuse! There are more humane ways of killing them - therefore it is only done for sport! I would love to see some of those b****rds themselves hunted down and ripped to pieces - now wouldn't THAT be FUN! :hugesmile:

why is carting sheep off in a wheeled crate 100 miles, penning them in tight pens for 5 hours and then lining them up and blowing out their brains with a steel bolt one after the other, just for shareholder profit any better?

are you asking the same fate for the board at Findus?


(answer: no)

[Crimson Dynamo]

i lack guile

bingo

[PaulyJ]

like they ever catch them..

live by the sword die by the sword

humane culling?

no

mother nature

yes

Human Nature is only one side of the coin, upon the other is civilized Nature. It depresses me that some people want to keep dragging the human Race back toward, are animal past.

Why people don't want to save a fox from unnecessary cruelty is beyond me. I wouldn't mind but it's not as if you can put it down to self interest, when some of them don't even hunt in the first place. Baffling

My Great, Great, Great, Great, Great, Great, Great, Great, Great, Great, Great, Great, Great, Great, Great, Great, Great, Great, Great, Great, Great
Uncle Bonehead would be very proud.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Human Nature is only one side of the coin, upon the other is civilized Nature. It depresses me that some people want to keep dragging the human Race back toward, are animal past.

Why people don't want to save a fox from unnecessary cruelty is beyond me. I wouldn't mind but it's not as if you can put it down to self interest, when some of them don't even hunt in the first place. Baffling

My Great, Great, Great, Great, Great, Great, Great, Great, Great, Great, Great, Great, Great, Great, Great, Great, Great, Great, Great, Great, Great
Uncle Bonehead would be very proud.

and your answer to the numerous posts about cattle, pig and sheep slaughter for shareholder profit is what?

You know the lovely modern thing we do to animals

:whistle:

[WOMBAI]

Cattle etc are bred for that purpose - and wouldn't have existed otherwise - although that isn't right either, but it certainly isn't done for sport - so how does that justify reintroducing fox hunting?

[Alf]

a very noble and traditional sport
i'm all for it
the upper class need to have fun aswell, let's face it, their sh*t at football

[WOMBAI]

a very noble and traditional sport
i'm all for it
the upper class need to have fun aswell, let's face it, their sh*t at football

They are ****e at fox-hunting too - and must have sad lives if that is how they get their kicks!

[NettoSuperstar!]

Fox Hunting never went away, they ignore the ban and do it anyway cos theyre bloody toffs, they're above the law, they own this feckin country and they'll do as they please what what

[musical]

Evil

[Crimson Dynamo]

Evil

yes foxes can be very evil

[PaulyJ]

and your answer to the numerous posts about cattle, pig and sheep slaughter for shareholder profit is what?

You know the lovely modern thing we do to animals

:whistle:

My answer is to accept what i can not control. If it is a contradiction that you are looking for then i can give you one. Part of me thinks it is wrong to eat meat because of the cruelty that is part of the industry. However there is another part of me that loves the smell and taste of meat, and i am happy to eat it.

Given the Human internal struggle for contentment i understand this contradiction as

Human Nature 1, Human Civility 0

But Fox hunting is totally different from eating meat. It is Not a natural thing to hunt for pleasure , and it is as weird as me getting into my car and driving around the streets of Manchester running dogs over. The only reason it appears as "arguably acceptable" is because it is part of history, like Stoning people was, or Public Execution is in some parts of the world today.

Labour got rid of Fox Hunting and if the Tories bring it back, it won't be because they believe it to be a

"Humane way of pest control" Come on! does anyone really believe that head****?

It will be because it fulfills a part of their strategy in being elected.
Talliho Mr Fox you just got shafted by Tory Boy.

[Crimson Dynamo]

My answer is to accept what i can not control. If it is a contradiction that you are looking for then i can give you one. Part of me thinks it is wrong to eat meat because of the cruelty that is part of the industry. However there is another part of me that loves the smell and taste of meat, and i am happy to eat it.

Given the Human internal struggle for contentment i understand this contradiction as

Human Nature 1, Human Civility 0

But Fox hunting is totally different from eating meat. It is Not a natural thing to hunt for pleasure , and it is as weird as me getting into my car and driving around the streets of Manchester running dogs over. The only reason it appears as "arguably acceptable" is because it is part of history, like Stoning people was, or Public Execution is in some parts of the world today.

Labour got rid of Fox Hunting and if the Tories bring it back, it won't be because they believe it to be a

"Humane way of pest control" Come on! does anyone really believe that head****?

It will be because it fulfills a part of their strategy in being elected.
Talliho Mr Fox you just got shafted by Tory Boy.

you took all day for that ^^^^


please see me after class:nono:

[PaulyJ]

you took all day for that ^^^^


please see me after class:nono:

Blah!

[Shasown]

why is carting sheep off in a wheeled crate 100 miles, penning them in tight pens for 5 hours and then lining them up and blowing out their brains with a steel bolt one after the other, just for shareholder profit any better?

are you asking the same fate for the board at Findus?


(answer: no)

Purely incidental, bolt guns arent used any more, spraying brains and other tissue around isnt hygienic. It also means the head and brains would then be unfit for consumption.

High Voltage electrocution, using two shocks, first to stun and kill, second to confirm death. A lot quicker and more humane than being run to ground and ripped apart by a pack of hounds.

That is except for abattoirs certified and licensed to carry out other methods of slaughter for religious purposes etc. eg Halal and Kosher.

If god didn't want us to eat animals he wouldnt have made them out of meat.

[bananarama]

Fox hunting is disgusting.

Anyone who partakes in it is a disgusting vile excuse for a human.

Same for anyone who thinks its ok.


That certainly sums up fox hunters and their pathetic supporters......

Any one hunting or supporting should be made to run for their lives while being chased by a pack of pitt bulls.......

The money spent dressing up like clowns on horse back and maintaining the horses and dogs could be spent on hiring humane pest controllers.......But only where farm animals were genuinly at risk......


The fox like the rest of us and indeed all living creatures are just doing what it takes to survive.......

Fox hunting is not about survival it's about pandering to blood lust half wits with nothing better to do.......

[Crimson Dynamo]

That certainly sums up fox hunters and their pathetic supporters......

Any one hunting or supporting should be made to run for their lives while being chased by a pack of pitt bulls.......

The money spent dressing up like clowns on horse back and maintaining the horses and dogs could be spent on hiring humane pest controllers.......But only where farm animals were genuinly at risk......


The fox like the rest of us and indeed all living creatures are just doing what it takes to survive.......

Fox hunting is not about survival it's about pandering to blood lust half wits with nothing better to do.......

Your reply is typical. Full of insult and bile but very little understanding.


memo to all Tibbers: if you disagree with a pov insulting those who oppose your opinion does not strengthen your case it undermines it. and that goes to you bananarama you stupid feck-monkey.