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Captain.Remy
22-02-2010, 06:24 PM
London, England (CNN) -- Bindi Dupouy, an Australian living in Paris, and her French husband, just had their first child, a son born in the country.

Dupouy, a 28-year-old lawyer, got almost five months paid maternity leave from her company for the birth. She can take another seven months off beyond that -- a year total -- unpaid, if she wants, with her job guaranteed under French law.

When her son Louis was born, healthy and by way of a normal delivery, she got to stay in her local French hospital, around the corner from where she lives, for five full days, to rest.

Welcome to France, voted the best place in the world to live for the fifth year in a row by International Living magazine, which has been analyzing data and publishing its annual Quality of Life Index for 30 years.

One of the reasons France keeps winning the ranking is its world-class health care system, which Dupouy just experienced first-hand.

"They treat expecting mums like treasures here," Dupouy told CNN from her Paris apartment. "They take really good care of you. The health care system is just amazing." She said she wouldn't have gotten the same maternity leave -- or care -- back home in Australia.

At her job, Dupouy also gets seven weeks paid vacation a year, although it's her first job as an attorney since graduating with a law degree in Australia. She doesn't think twice about taking the Metro across town -- for just $1.37 a ride -- to visit a friend. Or she picks up a rental bike at one of the many computerized bike hire racks in town to get around.

France scores high marks across the board in the survey, which is done every January, from health care (100 points) to infrastructure (92 points) to safety and risk (100 points).

"No surprise," said the magazine in its report. "Its (France's) tiresome bureaucracy and high taxes are outweighed by an unsurpassable quality of life, including the world's best health care."

"The bread, the cheese, the wine," Dan Prescher, special projects editor at the magazine, told CNN, when asked why France just keeps on winning year after year. "That weighs pretty heavily in quality of life."

Prescher admitted the magazine had an "American bias" since the vast majority of its subscribers are Americans spending in U.S. dollars. "France is one of those golden places in the American consciousness," he said.

The annual index ranks 194 countries and comprises nine categories: Cost of Living, Culture and Leisure, Economy, Environment, Freedom, Health, Infrastructure, Safety and Risk and Climate. The Index analyzes data from several official sources, including government web sites, the World Health Organization, and several media sources.

Following France in the top ten are Australia, Switzerland, Germany, New Zealand, Luxembourg, the U.S., Belgium, Canada and Italy, in that order.

"France always nets high scores in most categories," the magazine said. "But you don't need number-crunchers to tell you its 'bon vivant' lifestyle is special. It's impossible to enumerate the joy of lingering for hours over dinner and a bottle of red wine in a Parisian brasserie. Or strolling beside the Seine on a spring morning, poking through the book vendors' wares."

Other European countries slipped a little in the magazine's rankings this year, with the exception of France and Germany. Britain dropped to 25th place from last year's ranking of 20.

Variety is also seen as a major factor in France's appeal, with the survey noting that "romantic Paris offers the best of everything, but services don't fall away in Alsace's wine villages, in wild and lovely Corsica, in lavender-scented Provence."

The United States dropped from third to seventh place in this year's rankings, largely because of the grinding economic crisis last year. "Sustaining the American dream has escalated out of the reach of many," the magazine said.

"The depression hit the United States and Great Britain hard," Prescher told CNN. "That weighs down the ratings."

Of course, France too has its problems. The country suffers from high youth unemployment, particularly among the disaffected young people who live in its equivalent of the projects, known as les banlieues.

Late last year, the French government opened a national discussion about national identity, which has evolved into debates over whether immigrants, and particularly Muslim immigrants, are French enough. The country has the highest Muslim population of any European country, with an estimated six million living in the country.

But for the most part, French people enjoy a good lifestyle. International Living says that during their large chunk of leisure time, the French enjoy visiting the country's many beaches and Alpine ski resorts.

Dupouy -- like more famous expats Ernest Hemingway and Julia Child before her -- agrees.

She and her husband vacation every year at the seaside near Bordeaux, in the southwest corner of France, where her husband's family has a home. They also go skiing in the Alps during the winter.

She says that even if she and her husband decide to leave France for awhile during their lives, they'll always come back -- every year, probably.

"The culture, the food, the family, it's all just really nice here," said Dupouy.

Source. (http://edition.cnn.com/2010/WORLD/europe/02/11/france.quality.life/index.html)

Still doesn't make me want to live there forever.

Thoughts ? :hugesmile:

Braden
22-02-2010, 06:35 PM
France is a beautiful place and the language is one of the most attractive languages to speak. :)

Patrick
22-02-2010, 06:40 PM
Ireland > France

But then again I havent been yet, but Idc from what I have seen in pictures I dont think its all its cracked up to be.

Captain.Remy
22-02-2010, 06:43 PM
Ireland > France

But then again I havent been yet, but Idc from what I have seen in pictures I dont think its all its cracked up to be.

You must be kidding Patrick ? For once, this isn't a matter of opinion, facts prove we are ahead of many countries, lifestyle wise. Ireland used to be the best place to live back in 2005 but since, France kept winning the prize.

But yeah, UK is more attractive to me but I have to say France is a great place to live. I mean, we don't have to care about Health and the most important issues. I think a lot of French people don't realize how lucky they are, they should go to some poor countries like I did (in Russia) to see how bad ass lucky we are.

Stacey.
22-02-2010, 06:44 PM
Ireland is the best place to live. :D
why?
Jedward live there :tongue:

InOne
22-02-2010, 07:00 PM
I do like France, and I agree with the others on the list. I'd rather live in any of them than the UK.

InOne
22-02-2010, 07:00 PM
Ireland is the best place to live. :D
why?
Jedward live there :tongue:

Back to Chat and Games you....

setanta
22-02-2010, 07:05 PM
France always scores well on these kinda surveys but fecking hell, Ireland has started tumbling badly.

Scarlett.
22-02-2010, 07:07 PM
Meh, every country has its downsides

I like England, it's where I belong

GunthersTeabag
22-02-2010, 07:08 PM
Ireland > France

But then again I havent been yet, but Idc from what I have seen in pictures I dont think its all its cracked up to be.
Who let you out of the asylum? Ireland is a hole. My parents live in Sligo and I have nothing against the place culturally but politically and economically it's in the pits right now.

Niamh.
22-02-2010, 07:08 PM
I'd love to live in Spain, never really took to France much (sorry Remy)

Scarlett.
22-02-2010, 07:09 PM
I'd love to live in Spain, never really took to France much (sorry Remy)That country's downside is they will snatch the land you live on

Stacey.
22-02-2010, 07:09 PM
Back to Chat and Games you....

:hugesmile:

Niamh.
22-02-2010, 07:09 PM
Who let you out of the asylum? Ireland is a hole. My parents live in Sligo and I have nothing against the place culturally but politically and economically it's in the pits right now.

you can't judge the whole of Ireland on Sligo! (sorry Karl)

arista
22-02-2010, 07:11 PM
France is Very Nice
but so many unemployed.

And so many French African Nations angry at France.

Niamh.
22-02-2010, 07:11 PM
That country's downside is they will snatch the land you live on

I've heard some horror stories alright, I just love the people, the weather and the pace of life over there

Scarlett.
22-02-2010, 07:12 PM
I've heard some horror stories alright, I just love the people, the weather and the pace of life over there

Aye its perfect apart from that aspect :joker:

arista
22-02-2010, 07:12 PM
I'd love to live in Spain, never really took to France much (sorry Remy)


Spain is not nice now
due to big money problems.

arista
22-02-2010, 07:14 PM
Capt Remy

"an Australian living in Paris"

You do know the Down Unders hate the English.

GunthersTeabag
22-02-2010, 07:14 PM
you can't judge the whole of Ireland on Sligo! (sorry Karl)
I'm not. I'm judging it on ... you know ... the news. Statistics. That sort of thing.

It's in a hole. No doubt about it.

Niamh.
22-02-2010, 07:15 PM
Spain is not nice now
due to big money problems.

well, I want to live there and not work hehe, that's the plan anyway.........someday!

Niamh.
22-02-2010, 07:16 PM
I'm not. I'm judging it on ... you know ... the news. Statistics. That sort of thing.

It's in a hole. No doubt about it.

well, all the politicans are thieving, lying conmen, no doubt, I won't argue with you there!

WOMBAI
22-02-2010, 07:23 PM
Never fancied France myself - don't know why - as I do like the accent - just never appealed to me somehow! Won a holiday there once, and couldn't be bothered to go. I have an English friend who lives there though - who seems to like it and married a French woman!

Captain.Remy
22-02-2010, 07:26 PM
France is Very Nice
but so many unemployed.

And so many French African Nations angry at France.

They should start respecting the law first. What they do in France, they would never do it in their country and that's what amazed me. They're so ungrateful, they think money falls out from the sky.

Captain.Remy
22-02-2010, 07:28 PM
Never fancied France myself - don't know why - as I do like the accent - just never appealed to me somehow! Won a holiday there once, and couldn't be bothered to go. I have an English friend who lives there though - who seems to like it and married a French woman!

It's a love or hate country. I'm French myself and I can see why some people are hating on the French: they're arrogant, rude and think they're above anything else. They're also the worst tourists in the world. But then there is something that makes you like it and I believe this is why we have many immigrants coming in (but not staying).

I like this country but I cannot see myself living there. UK is more appealing to me, it's a lifestyle that fits me.

Captain.Remy
22-02-2010, 07:30 PM
Also, I love to see these American narrow-minded rednecks who never left their state hating on the French in the comments on the online article. They're so ridiculous.

Shasown
22-02-2010, 07:50 PM
France is a truly beautiful country, filled with fanatastic secenery, the architecture in some cities is a joy to behold, the food is wonderful, the wines divine. france really does have everything.

The only thing spoiling it is the Locals.





"Cry 'God for Harry, England and Saint George!'"

Arneldo
22-02-2010, 07:52 PM
I know a LOT of people who have been. And I've only ever heard bad things.

InOne
22-02-2010, 08:04 PM
I have only been twice, and once was to the port thing where the hyper market is. And then the other was Key Camp or something like that

Captain.Remy
22-02-2010, 08:09 PM
I have only been twice, and once was to the port thing where the hyper market is. And then the other was Key Camp or something like that

Keycamp isn't a city, it's a holidays thing lol And what port with a hyper market (!) do you mean ?

arista
22-02-2010, 08:12 PM
Hyper Markets are good
if any are left.

Captain.Remy
22-02-2010, 08:12 PM
Hyper Markets are good
if any are left.

Carrefour is the best. :hugesmile: You do remember that right ?

InOne
22-02-2010, 08:15 PM
Keycamp isn't a city, it's a holidays thing lol And what port with a hyper market (!) do you mean ?

I know it's not a city lol Just dunno where in France that was. And the one in Cali

Captain.Remy
22-02-2010, 08:16 PM
I know it's not a city lol Just dunno where in France that was. And the one in Cali

Oh right, Calais ! It's in the very North (booo to Northern people lol) :joker:

Braden
22-02-2010, 08:17 PM
I loved France when I went, but I saw so many unemployed people harrasing people to buy keyrings,bracelets etc.. Someone at my school even got her money took from her.

Captain.Remy
22-02-2010, 08:18 PM
I loved France when I went, but I saw so many unemployed people harrasing people to buy keyrings,bracelets etc.. Someone at my school even got her money took from her.

They ain't French. :wink:

Braden
22-02-2010, 08:19 PM
They ain't French. :wink:

But they were in France :laugh2:

Captain.Remy
22-02-2010, 08:21 PM
But they were in France :laugh2:

They're immigrants who are exploited. It's quite an issue out there. :thumbs:

InOne
22-02-2010, 08:22 PM
Didn't France have problems with Muslims at one point? And it's banned the Burka right?

Captain.Remy
22-02-2010, 08:25 PM
Didn't France have problems with Muslims at one point? And it's banned the Burka right?

Yes it does. It's one of the most controversial law yet (and God knows France loves controversy). We had terrorist attacks threats from Al Quaida for this. It's a huge debate out there, very complicated to solve. A lot of people are worried France will become an Islam state in a few years.

InOne
22-02-2010, 08:28 PM
Yes it does. It's one of the most controversial law yet (and God knows France loves controversy). We had terrorist attacks threats from Al Quaida for this. It's a huge debate out there, very complicated to solve. A lot of people are worried France will become an Islam state in a few years.

Where are they from??? Like what decent?

Shasown
22-02-2010, 08:33 PM
But they were in France :laugh2:

So were you, does that make you part French?

Captain.Remy
22-02-2010, 08:37 PM
Where are they from??? Like what decent?

They don't know, they just received a tape. Then a few French journalists have been kidnapped in the Middle East since Christmas as a revenge for this law. It's not going to stop anytime soon. In the tape, they said they'll destroy a strong French symbol. The Government thinks about either the National Assembly or the Stock Exchange.

InOne
22-02-2010, 08:39 PM
They don't know, they just received a tape. Then a few French journalists have been kidnapped in the Middle East since Christmas as a revenge for this law. It's not going to stop anytime soon. In the tape, they said they'll destroy a strong French symbol. The Government thinks about either the National Assembly or the Stock Exchange.

What about most of the Muslims who live in France? And they like the Bosnian ones and that?

Captain.Remy
22-02-2010, 08:43 PM
What about most of the Muslims who live in France? And they like the Bosnian ones and that?

Most of them are unemployed and think they're above the law. I'm not being racist but it's definitely the truth. Especially in Marseilles where I live because it's right in front of Algeria so it has the biggest Muslim community and in a few areas, it's a right mess. They have to understand there are laws in this country and you need to respect the values. My parents are both immigrants from two different countries and they told me they'd have never behaved like that in a million years back in the 70's, they were too happy of the opportunity they had to start something in a better place. That's why I said in a post above that some people need to understand how lucky they are to live in France.

Immigration is a real issue and the 2012 Presidential elections are going to be all about this topic.

InOne
22-02-2010, 08:46 PM
Most of them are unemployed and think they're above the law. I'm not being racist but it's definitely the truth. Especially in Marseilles where I live because it's right in front of Algeria so it has the biggest Muslim community and in a few areas, it's a right mess. They have to understand there are laws in this country and you need to respect the values. My parents are both immigrants from two different countries and they told me they'd have never behaved like that in a million years back in the 70's, they were too happy of the opportunity they had to start something in a better place. That's why I said in a post above that some people need to understand how lucky they are to live in France.

Immigration is a real issue and the 2012 Presidential elections are going to be all about this topic.

Ahhhh damn :S sounds what is like happening here really. In the 50's 60's and 70's them coming over worked great and they intergrated well, but it's just this new generation of immigrants who are after whatever they can get. Also the areas they live in are dumps also.

Captain.Remy
22-02-2010, 08:53 PM
Ahhhh damn :S sounds what is like happening here really. In the 50's 60's and 70's them coming over worked great and they intergrated well, but it's just this new generation of immigrants who are after whatever they can get. Also the areas they live in are dumps also.

I think it's the biggest issue right now. But apart from that, it's a nice country to live in. Like I said, either you love it or hate it. :hugesmile:

Loukas
22-02-2010, 08:59 PM
London > Paris

Paris is beautiful however i just prefer London, probably being bias but London <3

Captain.Remy
22-02-2010, 09:04 PM
London > Paris

Paris is beautiful however i just prefer London, probably being bias but London <3

I couldn't agree more. London is amazing. Paris is just...repulsing.

GypsyGoth
22-02-2010, 09:15 PM
J'aime Paris, I think it is one of the most beautiful places. I would adore to live there one day, not sure how that is going to happen but I dream of it.

Captain.Remy
22-02-2010, 09:18 PM
J'aime Paris, I think it is one of the most beautiful places. I would adore to live there one day, not sure how that is going to happen but I dream of it.

Make sure you are a snobby obnoxious bitch before you get in there otherwise you have no chance of having friends. :tongue: Parisians are so up themselves, they make the city look so awful.

GypsyGoth
22-02-2010, 09:23 PM
Make sure you are a snobby obnoxious bitch before you get in there otherwise you have no chance of having friends. :tongue: Parisians are so up themselves, they make the city look so awful.

:laugh: I could probably manage two out of those three.

And I really don't mind them being rude, I kind of expect it, but the majority have been extremely polite to me and they've been helpful too whenever I've asked.

I find London a lot ruder.

Braden
22-02-2010, 09:27 PM
So were you, does that make you part French?

I didn't emigrate to France though.

Ramsay
23-02-2010, 01:06 AM
you can't judge the whole of Ireland on Sligo! (sorry Karl)

lol its grand
sligo is ****

Tom4784
23-02-2010, 01:33 AM
I like France but I wouldn't live there, the cuisine doesn't agree with me really. I'd stay in England given the choice, it's not perfect but it's what I know. If I had to live in another country though I'd choose Canada.

I'm surprised the US is higher then the UK though, I thought the NHS would give us the edge.

Crimson Dynamo
23-02-2010, 10:14 AM
France is a beautiful place and the language is one of the most attractive languages to speak. :)

this

Niamh.
23-02-2010, 10:38 AM
Carrefour is the best. :hugesmile: You do remember that right ?

I love Carrefour, they're all over Spain too

Captain.Remy
23-02-2010, 10:39 AM
I love Carrefour, they're all over Spain too

They're all over China too :joker:

Niamh.
23-02-2010, 10:41 AM
They're all over China too :joker:

Is it a chinese company?

Captain.Remy
23-02-2010, 10:59 AM
Is it a chinese company?

Oh God no ! It's pure French. :hugesmile:

Niamh.
23-02-2010, 11:01 AM
Oh God no ! It's pure French. :hugesmile:

haha, sorry! It's a pretty cool place though, they sell everything!!

Beastie
23-02-2010, 12:00 PM
France is a beautiful country. It is clean, has lovely beaches, amazing panoramic views of the countryside. Great food and achitecture and history! It also has Disney Land Paris :D

cupid stunt
23-02-2010, 12:07 PM
i dont like french ppl but they had the rite idea about banning burkas