Why is the forum becoming so strict?

[Jack_]

Seriously? :shrug:

[Princess]

What do you mean by strict? Not allowing sick jokes? Maybe cos not everyone wants to put up with them. It's in the rules,no one has suddenly got any stricter.

[Shaun]

Is it? I haven't noticed.

Though about time...the moron density on this site lately is absurd.

[Jack_]

What do you mean by strict? Not allowing sick jokes? Maybe cos not everyone wants to put up with them. It's in the rules,no one has suddenly got any stricter.

No, not that, I'm over that.

Just all these threads being closed and people receiving infractions for making 'sexual' poems, as a joke.

It'll come to the point where any form of banter is banned.

[Smithy]

I got an infraction without a reason pmsl

[Twilight]

Princess you close everything funny, and give infractions out to much:(

[Beastie]

I got an infraction without a reason pmsl

You can't get one without a reason. You must have done something. lol

[Z]

No, not that, I'm over that.

Just all these threads being closed and people receiving infractions for making 'sexual' poems, as a joke.

It'll come to the point where any form of banter is banned.


Most of the time these things are moderated because somebody has reported it. You should see my email inbox - most of the emails I get are reported posts from TiBB.

[Beastie]

Princess has not gave me an infraction or warning yet. The warning for me was from James and the 2 infractions from Vicki J!

[Princess]

Princess you close everything funny, and give infractions out to much:(

I havn't closed anything or given any infractions out in a while.

And Smithy you can see the infraction reason on your profile.

[Ross]

Certain people take things way too far. The mods have to act, they have a duty to do so.

You shouldn't take things personal, if you do wrong then you live with the consequences not just on this forum but in life as a whole. Some people need to realise that some things they may find funny, not everyone will. That's it really. I don't think the mods/admins ban without reason, I've had my far share of bans believe me. I know my limits though.

[Smithy]

I havn't closed anything or given any infractions out in a while.

And Smithy you can see the infraction reason on your profile.

wel arguing is hardly a reason to recieve an infraction :P

[Jack_]

Most of the time these things are moderated because somebody has reported it. You should see my email inbox - most of the emails I get are reported posts from TiBB.

So if somebody reports something, mods/admins automatically have to close/delete the thread and hand out infractions, because somebody said it offends them?

[Princess]

Most of the time these things are moderated because somebody has reported it. You should see my email inbox - most of the emails I get are reported posts from TiBB.

LOL same! Reported post at TiBB(22 e-mails).

[Princess]

wel arguing is hardly a reason to recieve an infraction :P

Eh yeah it is.

[Smithy]

Eh yeah it is.

but everyones always arguin :conf:

[Z]

So if somebody reports something, mods/admins automatically have to close/delete the thread and hand out infractions, because somebody said it offends them?

Pretty much :). It comes down to our discretion, obviously, but if somebody's complained, it's our duty to react to that.

[Twilight]

Eh?? if there was no arguing, this site would be boring.

[Jack_]

Certain people take things way too far. The mods have to act, they have a duty to do so.

You shouldn't take things personal, if you do wrong then you live with the consequences not just on this forum but in life as a whole. Some people need to realise that some things they may find funny, not everyone will. That's it really. I don't think the mods/admins ban without reason, I've had my far share of bans believe me. I know my limits though.

It's not even anything to do with me this time, just other people.

Like that Tsunami thread that Tom made. Yeah, sure, some people didn't agree that they were disappointed, but I don't see why that's a reason for a thread to be closed. It's a debate...

[Princess]

It's not even anything to do with me this time, just other people.

Like that Tsunami thread that Tom made. Yeah, sure, some people didn't agree that they were disappointed, but I don't see why that's a reason for a thread to be closed. It's a debate...

A debate whether people were disappointed that a huge disaster hadn't happened? Can you honestly not see how that isn't offensive??

[Jack_]

Pretty much :). It comes down to our discretion, obviously, but if somebody's complained, it's our duty to react to that.

And people honestly care about some posts on a forum that much? I think I've only ever reported something once before, and I was much younger back then.

What's wrong with "don't like it, ignore it". Seems a bit silly to me, bit like OFCOM.

[Ross]

People will learn in time.

I personally would kick any of the mods/admins ass right now and not care but I'm a changed person. -sob-

[Jack_]

A debate whether people were disappointed that a huge disaster hadn't happened? Can you honestly not see how that isn't offensive??

See the points me and Tom made in the thread, because no one's saying that they were disappointed that thousands of people weren't killed.

[Vicky.]

So if somebody reports something, mods/admins automatically have to close/delete the thread and hand out infractions, because somebody said it offends them?

Well, not really...because we do get a lot of ridiculous reports...like when BB is on, some people feel the need to report people if they say they dislike a housemate.

But if something is reported and we feel people could take offense, the thread can be closed/infractions given

[Twilight]

See the points me and Tom made in the thread, because no one's saying that they were disappointed that thousands of people weren't killed.

This

[Z]

And people honestly care about some posts on a forum that much? I think I've only ever reported something once before, and I was much younger back then.

What's wrong with "don't like it, ignore it". Seems a bit silly to me, bit like OFCOM.

You need to take a step back and accept that not everyone will share your view of things (this goes for everyone) - you might find it ridiculous that some people "care about some posts on a forum that much" but you yourself care that the forum is becoming "strict." Maybe it seems silly to you, it doesn't seem silly to others, c'est la vie.

[Smithy]

Jack maybe you should just drop it, its you vs like 5 mods

[Jessica.]

I think thebeasts comments should have been deleted instead of the thread being closed!

[Patrick]

I thought this site was strict but then went to another forum for a day 'Walford Web' jesus I felt like I was in the army.
You have to have EVERY SINGLE post approved by a mod.
Your not allowed SIGs until you post 15 times.

Its crazy and strict compared to here.

[Jack_]

Well, not really...because we do get a lot of ridiculous reports...like when BB is on, some people feel the need to report people if they say they dislike a housemate.

But if something is reported and we feel people could take offense, the thread can be closed/infractions given

Hmm, I guess that's fair enough then.

You need to take a step back and accept that not everyone will share your view of things (this goes for everyone) - you might find it ridiculous that some people "care about some posts on a forum that much" but you yourself care that the forum is becoming "strict." Maybe it seems silly to you, it doesn't seem silly to others, c'est la vie.

I never said everyone is going to agree with me, again, that's the idea of the thread. To see who agrees and who doesn't.

Anyway, I know nothing is going to change and infact, if anything, it'll probably get worse. All I'm saying is that it just seems, at least from my time on here, that it's gone from people being able to get away from quite a lot, to hardly anything, and that threads are being closed left, right and centre, ending valuable discussions, something which people have been complaining there has been a lack of recently. That's all. I just think it's driving people away from this place.

[Patrick]

Oh and Jack, im 4 Clicks away from Hayley :thumbs:

[Beastie]

I think thebeasts comments should have been deleted instead of the thread being closed!

No! Plenty of other comments have been saved but the thread closed! A lot worse than mine..

[Jack_]

I thought this site was strict but then went to another forum for a day 'Walford Web' jesus I felt like I was in the army.
You have to have EVERY SINGLE post approved by a mod.
Your not allowed SIGs until you post 15 times.

Its crazy and strict compared to here.

Oh I'm not saying this forum is strict compared to many others, I'm just saying that I think it's stricter than it used to be on here.

Oh and Jack, im 4 Clicks away from Hayley :thumbs:

Good lad :thumbs:

[Patrick]

Oh I'm not saying this forum is strict compared to many others, I'm just saying that I think it's stricter than it used to be on here.





Oh right, yeah definiatly its became really strict like your afraid to say somthing incase its took the wrong way.

[Jack_]

I'm trying to think of comparisons, the only one I can think of from the past was Harry's first graphics shop. Plenty of 'bullying' like behaviour went on in that thread, and no posts were deleted, even though numerous posts from mods were made, and it took 28 pages before the thread was eventually closed.

That's unheard of now.

[Jack_]

Oh right, yeah definiatly its became really strict like your afraid to say somthing incase its took the wrong way.

Yeah, that's how I feel, and it shouldn't be like that on a forum.

Even posting this thread is the same. I'll probably get an infraction or something.

[James]

Strict? This forum isn't strict. Some of these 'jokes' have a very negative effect for this forum. It is not always seen because people stay quiet about it but it puts them off the forum.

[Jords]

I find TiBB to be fairly lenient actually, and as it is a family forum and anybody can view it, it must be kept well moderated. But tbf, the crazyness tonight, although somethings were funny, it was hell not appropriate and things need to be deleted/shut therefore.

[Patrick]

I find TiBB to be fairly lenient actually, and as it is a family forum and anybody can view it, it must be kept well moderated. But tbf, the crazyness tonight, although somethings were funny, it was hell not appropriate and things need to be deleted/shut therefore.

What was so bad about tonight?

I just kept my head down on Hayley so I missed it all.

[Kerry]

This forums one of the most lenient I know of and is very fair (IMO). Some things go too far and for whatever reason I think people are actively trying to push the boundries this past week. It's been like a battle of 'who can get banned first'

[Jack_]

I can understand Steph's ban, as much as it was funny. Just other things confuse me.

But James, that Tsunami thread wasn't a joke. It was a real discussion. No matter whether people disagree or not.

During Big Brother, we have lots and lots of members posting threads about housemates sex tapes etc, and they aren't deleted. That's sort of the comparison I'm trying to make. Big Brother is an adult show, with adult content, and so adult discussion is going to take place on a forum about it.

[Jords]

What was so bad about tonight?

I just kept my head down on Hayley so I missed it all.

Blue waffle lmao, and just crude poems etc. Yeah soemthings can be funny but some people will take offence by it, and if not take offence by it, dont want to see that type of stuff. I think things just get taken too far at times, Frizl jokes for example but maybe Im too goody 2 shoes. :p

[Z]

I can understand Steph's ban, as much as it was funny. Just other things confuse me.

But James, that Tsunami thread wasn't a joke. It was a real discussion. No matter whether people disagree or not.

During Big Brother, we have lots and lots of members posting threads about housemates sex tapes etc, and they aren't deleted. That's sort of the comparison I'm trying to make. Big Brother is an adult show, with adult content, and so adult discussion is going to take place on a forum about it.

It's difficult to moderate during BB because of the increased activity, things slip through the net and stay around longer because there's more things to attend to, but if they get posted in off season, obviously they are deleted/locked far quicker.

[Jack_]

I can't understand how anybody would be offended by a sexual joke or post though, really. Do these people get offended when they're having sex? Because that's basically what it is, just in text form.

[Wildcat!]

This forum isnt strict at all! Are you kidding me? the type of idiotic craap people get away with over here is unbelievable! And yeah all these threads closed were inappropriate, regardless of your personal point.

And since you think people shouldnt care that much about posts on a forum, why do you care at all things are being closed, if it doesnt involve you?

[Kerry]

The only thing that bothers me are pics. I couldn't give a poop what people talk about and the only reason pics bother me is cos I view this board at any time of the day and my child may be stood beind me. I don't really want to explain why theres pics of knobs on my screen

[Beastie]

The only thing that bothers me are pics. I couldn't give a poop what people talk about and the only reason pics bother me is cos I view this board at any time of the day and my child may be stood beind me. I don't really want to explain why theres pics of knobs on my screen

:joker:

[Beastie]

I can't understand how anybody would be offended by a sexual joke or post though, really. Do these people get offended when they're having sex? Because that's basically what it is, just in text form.

I would like to edit this post as part of my signature. :D

[Jords]

I can understand Steph's ban, as much as it was funny. Just other things confuse me.

But James, that Tsunami thread wasn't a joke. It was a real discussion. No matter whether people disagree or not.

During Big Brother, we have lots and lots of members posting threads about housemates sex tapes etc, and they aren't deleted. That's sort of the comparison I'm trying to make. Big Brother is an adult show, with adult content, and so adult discussion is going to take place on a forum about it.

LOL at what Steph did, but again, I understand why she got banned - I could see it coming a mile off!

That Tsunami thread suggesting people were disappointed that a big natural disaster didnt happen is quite outragous really, and thats the reason why it got banned.

If BB was an adult show though, we shouldnt be watching it, right? And it would be on after 9pm.

[Kerry]

:joker:

Why is that funny?

[Jack_]

It's difficult to moderate during BB because of the increased activity, things slip through the net and stay around longer because there's more things to attend to, but if they get posted in off season, obviously they are deleted/locked far quicker.

Yes of course, but as I said, Big Brother is an adult show, with adult content, so the forum is going to be the same, is it not?

One other thing, why do old threads that are bumped get closed? I've really never understood the logic behind that. It's still a thread.

[Princess]

I can't understand how anybody would be offended by a sexual joke or post though, really. Do these people get offended when they're having sex? Because that's basically what it is, just in text form.

That's just silly now.

[Wildcat!]

I can't understand how anybody would be offended by a sexual joke or post though, really. Do these people get offended when they're having sex? Because that's basically what it is, just in text form.


Once Again, youre talking as if people have your moral standards, or are offended by the same things! You cant speak for others or say why should or shouldnt offend them!
You seem to worry more than anyone, for someone claiming not to care!

[Patrick]

Jack I have reached the big Five Oh ;)

Not bad, not bad at all eh?

[Twilight]

That's just silly now.

Well it is.

[James]

Yes of course, but as I said, Big Brother is an adult show, with adult content, so the forum is going to be the same, is it not?

One other thing, why do old threads that are bumped get closed? I've really never understood the logic behind that. It's still a thread.

Adult content? Some of the things on here tonight are the opposite.

[Jack_]

LOL at what Steph did, but again, I understand why she got banned - I could see it coming a mile off!

That Tsunami thread suggesting people were disappointed that a big natural disaster didnt happen is quite outragous really, and thats the reason why it got banned.

If BB was an adult show though, we shouldnt be watching it, right? And it would be on after 9pm.

Again, see the posts me and Tom made.

BB is an adult show. The old videos they used to sell were 15/18 rated. It has always been aimed at adults, it has adult content. Sure, kids watch it, but kids watch porn, doesn't mean it's not for adults. You see what I mean?

That's just silly now.

No it's not. The majority of people sign up to this site because they watch Big Brother. In Big Brother they talk about sex, are they offended by that too? Are they those people that complain to OFCOM? It's the same principle really.

Once Again, youre talking as if people have your moral standards, or are offended by the same things! You cant speak for others or say why should or shouldnt offend them!
You seem to worry more than anyone, for someone claiming not to care!

I've never said people shouldn't be offended by things, I'm just saying what I'm not offended by and how I think this forum has got stricter. That's all. Jeez.

[Patrick]

Jack has a very good point.

[Jack_]

Adult content? Some of the things on here tonight are the opposite.

Yeah, you could argue that posting it is childish, just like how you could argue that discussion of sex in the house is childish, but the content is still for adults.

[Jack_]

Oh, well done Patrick, not bad at all indeed :thumbs:

[Jords]

If somebody got their fanny out on big brother and it was all blue waffle-ised I doubt they would show it, espicially before 9pm when its not classed as adult TV. As this forum is always a family forum and never becomes an adult one, blue waffle would not ever be shown.

Tbh you should be thankful its not an adult forum else we wouldnt be allowed to come on..

[Jack_]

If somebody got their fanny out on big brother and it was all blue waffle-ised I doubt they would show it, espicially before 9pm when its not classed as adult TV. As this forum is always a family forum and never becomes an adult one, blue waffle would not ever be shown.

Tbh you should be thankful its not an adult forum else we wouldnt be allowed to come on..

I'm not on about that picture, Steph's ban was deserved, I can see that :tongue:

But thebeast's sex 'poems', they're still adult and sex is still discussed on Big Brother.

And people would still come on, they'd just lie about their age.

[Jack_]

Do the mods/admins not even think they themselves have tightened up on moderating?

I'm surprised that people can't see a difference from now to a few years back.

[Patrick]

If somebody got their fanny out on big brother and it was all blue waffle-ised I doubt they would show it, espicially before 9pm when its not classed as adult TV. As this forum is always a family forum and never becomes an adult one, blue waffle would not ever be shown.

Tbh you should be thankful its not an adult forum else we wouldnt be allowed to come on..

They wouldnt show a pussy on BB Blue or not, before 10PM but its offensive to women everywhere who have a Blue Vagina not to show it.

Its like not showing a ginger housemate and saying there diffrent, just because its blue doesnt mean it shouldnt treated the same as other pussies am I right?

Plus, its also like not showing a handicap housemate on telly, just because its distabled.
Well the Blue Waffle is a Vagina that is distabled, less fortunate than other women.


Do you all see where im coming from?

[Jack_]

As far as I'm aware, vaginas aren't even allowed to be shown on TV unless being used for educational purposes.

On the other hand, penises can and have been shown freely on Big Brother and other shows. Pathetic ruling, if you ask me.

[Patrick]

As far as I'm aware, vaginas aren't even allowed to be shown on TV unless being used for educational purposes.

On the other hand, penises can and have been shown freely on Big Brother and other shows. Pathetic ruling, if you ask me.

True true, like watching 'Partyland' or 'Babewatch' or 'Asian Girls' during midnight on those 999 channels but they never show the pussy ffs.

[Jords]

I'm not on about that picture, Steph's ban was deserved, I can see that :tongue:

But thebeast's sex 'poems', they're still adult and sex is still discussed on Big Brother.

And people would still come on, they'd just lie about their age.

I guess they went too far, they made me laugh but again I can see why she got an infraction, they wernt exactly appropriate. :laugh:

Yes but they shouldnt come on, thats a whole different story, this forum is for 13+ and people may be lying to get on still.

[Twilight]

Vagina's can't be shown but penis's can?
Thats messed up:P

[Jords]

They wouldnt show a pussy on BB Blue or not, before 10PM but its offensive to women everywhere who have a Blue Vagina not to show it.

Its like not showing a ginger housemate and saying there diffrent, just because its blue doesnt mean it shouldnt treated the same as other pussies am I right?

Plus, its also like not showing a handicap housemate on telly, just because its distabled.
Well the Blue Waffle is a Vagina that is distabled, less fortunate than other women.


Do you all see where im coming from?

They would not show it before 9pm because it wouldnt be appropriate for children viewing, unless it was on Embaressing Bodies where it would be allowed for educational reasoning.

[Jack_]

I guess they went too far, they made me laugh but again I can see why she got an infraction, they wernt exactly appropriate. :laugh:

Yes but they shouldnt come on, thats a whole different story, this forum is for 13+ and people may be lying to get on still.

Yeah, it's not appropriate for kids. Kids watch Big Brother. Discussion of sex happens on Big Brother. It might not be appropriate, but it still happens.

Yes, they will be lying already, but it won't change. Kids watch porn. No one is going to listen. If you tell someone not to do something they're more likely to want to do it more.

[Patrick]

Vagina's can't be shown but penis's can?
Thats messed up:P

Isnt it ffs!

Even on GTA they showed a mans dick in a sauna but didnt show a pornstar in Vice City nude.

[Princess]

*is slighty distrubed about 14/15 year olds talking about sex*

[Vicky.]

But thebeast's sex 'poems', they're still adult and sex is still discussed on Big Brother.



Thebeast only got an infraction because she got a warning for that already, then thought it was a smart move to post it again...


And in a way, yes, the moderating is stricter now, but thats because people seem to be pushing the boundaries more to see what they can get away with, and then twisting when they get an infraction/the thread gets locked.

[Patrick]

*is slighty distrubed about 14/15 year olds talking about sex*

Are you actually shocked? :joker:

They would not show it before 9pm because it wouldnt be appropriate for children viewing, unless it was on Embaressing Bodies where it would be allowed for educational reasoning.

Embaressing bodies shows Nude girls?

That would look nice on my HD TV. When is it on?

[Twilight]

*is slighty distrubed about 14/15 year olds talking about sex*
Why?
Sex is part of life.

[Princess]

Why?
Sex is part of life.

It shouldn't be when you're that young.

[Patrick]

It shouldn't be when you're that young.

It would be shocking 10 years ago yes, fair enough but not now surely?

[Jack_]

*is slighty distrubed about 14/15 year olds talking about sex*

Times have changed...I think :tongue:

Thebeast only got an infraction because she got a warning for that already, then thought it was a smart move to post it again...


And in a way, yes, the moderating is stricter now, but thats because people seem to be pushing the boundaries more to see what they can get away with, and then twisting when they get an infraction/the thread gets locked.

Oh, I see. But still, the warning confuses me.

I guess that's a fair point, but I've seen just as much, if not worse, on my years on here. It seems that it's just being cracked down upon now.

[Jords]

Its actually a bit ridiculous that you cant see reasons why infractions were given and threads were closed. You gotta look at it in 2 frames of minds, yes it may be funny to some (I admit to finding somethings funny) or just a debate, but it may offend others and it is not appropriate so deal with the consequences.

I disagree with Smithy getting an infraction for arguing though, plenty of that happens on here.

[Twilight]

It shouldn't be when you're that young.

Nothing wrong with talking about it though.
its not like i'm gonna go out and do it:P

[Vicky.]

Its actually a bit ridiculous that you cant see reasons why infractions were given and threads were closed.

Its up to the person who recieved an infraction to tell you about it, should they chose to.

Usually a reason is given when a thread is closed also. I tend to post on every thread I lock, and have seen most other mods do the same.

[Jack_]

I'll continue this tomorrow, should the thread still be open that is, I need sleep now.

[Jords]

Not like that Vicky, why people cant understand why infractions have to be given out in these sorts of situations.

[Vicky.]

I'll continue this tomorrow, should the thread still be open that is, I need sleep now.

Must you? Its getting old now...

Not like that Vicky, why people cant understand why infractions have to be given out in these sorts of situations.

I really dont get what you mean...

[Ross]

lol

[Jords]

Must you? Its getting old now...



I really dont get what you mean...

Jack saying he doesnt understand why infractions were given out, but its really quite blatent.

[Vicky.]

Jack saying he doesnt understand why infractions were given out, but its really quite blatent.

Ah right.

Thought you were saying it was bad that we dont tell everyone the reasons for every infraction and that

Sorry :)

[Stacey.]

yeah, it really is.
I got 2 infractions for giving my opinion!!

[Enid]

I can tell some **** went down last night.

Someone fill me in, please. :D

Also, the decision to disable postcounts is ****ing fantastic. THANK YOU.

[arista]

So if somebody reports something, mods/admins automatically have to close/delete the thread and hand out infractions, because somebody said it offends them?


Yes New Labour at fault.

[arista]

I can tell some **** went down last night.

Someone fill me in, please. :D

Also, the decision to disable postcounts is ****ing fantastic. THANK YOU.



Jack would need to Fill you in
Hon.

[arista]

I'll continue this tomorrow, should the thread still be open that is, I need sleep now.


Yes Jack get some Rest.

Catch you later tonight
you Devil.

[Sticks]

I am a moderator on another forum devoted to astronomy and aerospace with other sciences thrown in.

Some of the rules we have there would ban things I have done here, like image linking using the img tags. The owners worry this is a copyright violation, steals bandwidth and is not nice on those who still have dial ups instead of broadband.

Plus if someone wants to advocate a theory outside the mainstream of science, or with regard to conspiracy theories there are extra rules.

During my time as a moderator there I have been known for being severe and trigger happy, however that forum wants to be available to schools. If we allowed some things there that we see here, the forum would be blocked by various net nannies.

That said, this morning I found a lot of locked threads, one after just two posts and yet I saw no post that would have violated forum rules.

As for the tsunami thread, could the offending posts have just been delete and the posters warned?

As a suggestion, moderator to moderators, if a thread needs to be closed, please could the moderator closing it post a reason as to why it is being closed. when we close a thread on the forum I am a moderator, that is our procedure and it gives a degree of transparency.

[Stu]

Insults Deleted.

A strict forum that really wanted to keep the place clean looking would ban both offensive members and members who are ... well ... stupid? As it stands we have a great policy on banning people for making offensive jokes but absoloutely no policy at all on trolltastic Edit language who could be viewed as a benig offensive to humanity.

Edit of us filthy young things with our bad language but yeah. I wouldn't say this place is strict. Although locking that disaster thread was incredibly stupid. You don't like the thread? Aww. Leave then. I don't like plenty of threads. Can we close them based soley on my opinion or is that a luxury confined to moderators?

On a strict forum, we would never have had to put up with the MeMyself&I trouble becauce the IP would have been banned first day. Jobs done, case closed, thank you and don't come again.

And seriously - how stupid is the obligation to close threads that offend people? Can these people not find the back button? Do they need the thread to be vaccum sealed and shot into space to sleep soundly at night?

Plus as Sticks said - GIVE REASONS WHY YOUR CLOSING YOUR THREADS. Do your job properly peeps. Nobody ever explains what's going on and we then have a further four threads wondering what's going on. Usually they end up locked too.

Insults deleted.

[arista]

"If we really did have a policy of banning stupid people - the number of moderators would drop quiet a bit I reckon. "


No that does not stand for Vicky

[Stu]

I agree.

[Enid]

We have no apparent set guidelines. That's why you get members whinging about getting banned for posting offensive sh!t. I could call somebody a ****** and then another person could say that about someone the next day and get banned. There needs to be consistency.

And members moaning about the postcount thing. Just shut up. You're the reason why it has been disabled. Stop spamming the forums with your bollocks. What does postcount mean really? Absolutely **** all. You just get your sh!ts and giggles from having a huge number of posts and getting your 10K awards because for some reason it makes you feel better about yourself. You can still post in Chat & Games. It's just this time your spam won't contribute to your obscenely large postcount.

Me thinks you need to go out and get some fresh air for a change because some of you are clearly not thinking straight.

[Stu]

Consistency. That's the one. Why didn't I just say that?

Postcount has been disabled? Well halle ****ing lujah. I love these dolts who pretend they don't care. Next step - remove the postcount numbers. That'll also stop any pre teen troll who will gauge any attack on them or their logic as being an attack soley based on postcount.

[Enid]

Consistency. That's the one. Why didn't I just say that?

Postcount has been disabled? Well halle ****ing lujah. I love these dolts who pretend they don't care.
Only in Chat and Games. Well I'm glad I'm not the only one to think positively of this. Maybe then all the spammers will **** off, since disabling postcount is apparently the crime of the century.

[Stu]

Expressing annoyance at it's removal is pretty much owning up to caring about your post count, and thus owning up to your 1337 noobtube skillz of posting.

Unless of course the postcount function has some hidden virtuous ability granting spiritual energy I have not yet tapped into that betters your life in some way.

[Braden]

I don't think the forum is strict.I find it annoying whenever there is an argument, infractions and the thread being closed is always the end outcome. Arguing is one of the only things that make all the members on this forum actully interact with each other, if there was no arguing it would be boring. I would hate it if I came onto this thread and everyone was just agreeing with each other and not expressing there opinions just because it may give them an infraction.

[Crimson Dynamo]

The forum should be stricter in order to maintain debate and chat

words like *******, ******, spas, abortion survivors etc should not be tolerated.

if you would not say it to your Mum then it should not be on the forum


Also if anyone uses the word Troll they should be banned for a week.

As with all forums attacks on person should be hammered down.

[Enid]

I don't think the forum is strict.I find it annoying whenever there is an argument, infractions and the thread being closed is always the end outcome. Arguing is one of the only things that make all the members on this forum actully interact with each other, if there was no arguing it would be boring. I would hate it if I came onto this thread and everyone was just agreeing with each other and not expressing there opinions just because it may give them an infraction.
You can express your opinion and interact with eachother without arguing. Arguing and debating is not the same. Disagreeing does not always have to lead to an argument either. It seems younger members are incapable of this.

[arista]

LT

"abortion survivors etc should not be tolerated. "


Abortion is Very Normal.


You seem to be deluded
thinking this is a Church.

[\PJ/]

TBH it's like jack finds something to pick on every week.

[Crimson Dynamo]

LT

"abortion survivors etc should not be tolerated. "


Abortion is Very Normal.


You seem to be deluded
thinking this is a Church.

No one is saying that the horrible act of abortion is now commonplace but using the killing of a child as a means to belittle and insult someone is not acceptable.

Surely I do not need to explain that to anyone on here?

[arista]

No one is saying that the horrible act of abortion is now commonplace but using the killing of a child as a means to belittle and insult someone is not acceptable.

Surely I do not need to explain that to anyone on here?


Terminating a UnBorn Baby is Legal
Utter Fact

[Crimson Dynamo]

Terminating a UnBorn Baby is Legal
Fact

please see my last post.

would you call your Mother an "abortion survivor" if you were cross with her Arista?

[arista]

please see my last post.

would you call your Mother an "abortion survivor" if you were cross with her Arista?


Never used that term.
Not a Problem.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Never used that term.
Not a Problem.

no, quite..

and if someone called your mother that in your company?

[arista]

no, quite..

and if someone called your mother that in your company?


Thats Not going to happen
this is a Forum.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Thats Not going to happen
this is a Forum.

and lets keep it a forum and not a playground.

[Stu]

No one is saying that the horrible act of abortion is now commonplace but using the killing of a child as a means to belittle and insult someone is not acceptable.

Surely I do not need to explain that to anyone on here?
Did you not read the 'survivor' part?

I call people abortion survivers to my dear mum all the time. She lolz at it. Your simply doing your best to make it sound incredibly evil and lord knows I don't know why.

[Shasown]

Expressing annoyance at it's removal is pretty much owning up to caring about your post count, and thus owning up to your 1337 noobtube skillz of posting.

Unless of course the postcount function has some hidden virtuous ability granting spiritual energy I have not yet tapped into that betters your life in some way.

You may be on to something there, maybe the postcount increases your longevity, maybe it grants the power of a demi god.

Something well worth looking into and debating. Unfortunately i dont have too much time to do either, I am off to start lots of threads in forums that count posts:wink:

[Crimson Dynamo]

Did you not read the 'survivor' part?

I call people abortion survivers to my dear mum all the time. She lolz at it. Your simply doing your best to make it sound incredibly evil and lord knows I don't know why.

It would be better to not call them anything. The inference is that the person was unwanted and somehow supernaturally survived an abortion and was thereafter brought up by the mother who did not want it?

Its not the wording but the leap of faith involved to conjure up the insult.

[Niamh.]

If somebody got their fanny out on big brother and it was all blue waffle-ised I doubt they would show it, espicially before 9pm when its not classed as adult TV. As this forum is always a family forum and never becomes an adult one, blue waffle would not ever be shown.

Tbh you should be thankful its not an adult forum else we wouldnt be allowed to come on..

Sorry but I'm an adult and really never ever want to see that blue waffle again, not because I get offended easily but because it is disgusting and looking at made me feel sick

[WOMBAI]

Seriously? :shrug:

To shut up the idiots!

[xDramatick]

I don't think the forum is strict.I find it annoying whenever there is an argument, infractions and the thread being closed is always the end outcome. Arguing is one of the only things that make all the members on this forum actully interact with each other, if there was no arguing it would be boring. I would hate it if I came onto this thread and everyone was just agreeing with each other and not expressing there opinions just because it may give them an infraction.

I can't speak for all the staff, but personally, there's a line with arguments that shouldn't be crossed on here. Arguments and debates are healthy, but when people start insulting each other because of a difference of opinions, and you've got teams of people ganging up on each other... that shouldn't be happening. The best way to deal with it is to close the thread to prevent more replies being posted, and explain why, then hand out infractions to any particular rule offenders. At the end of the day, the site has rules, whether you agree with them or not, that you should abide by when you sign up, and when these are smashed, then you should accept your punishment.
That's for me anyway, and I'm sure other mods/admins will agree.

[WOMBAI]

Unfortunately - there are always those that try to challenge rules that don't suit them in an attempt to big themselves up!

[Crimson Dynamo]

Unfortunately - there are always those that try to challenge rules that don't suit them in an attempt to big themselves up!

name them

[WOMBAI]

name them

Most can work it out for themselves. Not up to me to name people!

[Stu]

It would be better to not call them anything. The inference is that the person was unwanted and somehow supernaturally survived an abortion and was thereafter brought up by the mother who did not want it?

Its not the wording but the leap of faith involved to conjure up the insult.
Yes, sure. If you want to take it that litteraly.

Anyways, I have another three brand spanking new infraction points for my original post. From James, no less. By my thinking he thinking he is always right, I offended him, innit.

Apparently though I am wrong and he is right. What a beautiful illustration of sheer irony. I love when infraction points prove points.

[Sticks]

Also if anyone uses the word Troll they should be banned for a week.


But I refer to trolls in my Mystical Realms Stories. They are big creatures who impose law and order, have a clan structure and motivated by honour.

Nothing like the anti-social types that give them a bad name.

[Shasown]

Yes, sure. If you want to take it that litteraly.

Anyways, I have another three brand spanking new infraction points for my original post. From James, no less. By my thinking he thinking he is always right, I offended him, innit.

Apparently though I am wrong and he is right. What a beautiful illustration of sheer irony. I love when infraction points prove points.

Yes, it is quite an amusing concept.

[InOne]

Crazy thread lol

[arista]

Crazy thread lol



Some Bitter Posters.




Life In The Fast Lane.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Some Bitter Posters.




Life In The Fast Lane.

Originally posted by Arista:

LT
"abortion survivors etc should not be tolerated. "
Abortion is Very Normal.
You seem to be deluded
thinking this is a Church.


---------------------------------

^^self ownage^^

sweet, not bitter

[Enid]

Yes, sure. If you want to take it that litteraly.

Anyways, I have another three brand spanking new infraction points for my original post. From James, no less. By my thinking he thinking he is always right, I offended him, innit.

Apparently though I am wrong and he is right. What a beautiful illustration of sheer irony. I love when infraction points prove points.
Wait. So, you received infraction points for one of your posts in this thread?

I really do think the admins have it in for you.

[Stu]

Wait. So, you received infraction points for one of your posts in this thread?

I really do think the admins have it in for you.
I bought Borderlands this morning though. Good thing. Universal balance has been restored :).

[Enid]

I bought Borderlands this morning though. Good thing. Universal balance has been restored :).
Indeed it has. Such a fun game.

Look out for the little green robot hiding on top of a cliff in the newbie town. He doesn't do anything, yet he's always trying to grab your attention. Very strange.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Wait. So, you received infraction points for one of your posts in this thread?

I really do think the admins have it in for you.

It is similar to Scottish referees and Celtic

its a conspiracy...

[30stone]

People are being silly now.

When me and Sia were first made mods we were very strict.

I feel thats what the new mods are like, but i think they are doing a great job, at one point (during start of bb9) often i was the only mod on and there was so many people causing trouble it was hard to do it myself, until another came online..

Its great having a few more of them now, they are doing well as there is quite a lot of stupid offensive and unnecessary threads.

It got to lax at one point, people thinking they could get away from anything..

[Vicky.]

"If we really did have a policy of banning stupid people - the number of moderators would drop quiet a bit I reckon. "


No that does not stand for Vicky

Im taking that as a compliment...as I dont quite understand what you meant arista...maybe because Ive had like 2 hours sleep :p

[Zippy]

As somebody who has been on a couple of adult forums I think this place is pretty tolerant in many respects. I dont hang around long enough to pay too much attention but Ive seen mods baited in ways that would have gotten permanent bans for sure elsewhere. I've also witnessed outrageous homophobic insults that would be perm banned elswhere. Not just a paltry few days.

Ok Ive seen a couple of threads closed for debatable reasons but thats a judgement call. Somebody has to make it.

But its good for members like Jack to keep questioning how the wheels turn here. As long as he's doing it from a genuine place then it's all good. Im not here enough to really give a monkeys. But he is and seems to really care about the place and how it's run.

[WOMBAI]

Jack just wants to tell dirty jokes!

[Tom]

See the points me and Tom made in the thread, because no one's saying that they were disappointed that thousands of people weren't killed.

People would not have been watching if they didn't think anything was going to happen. People were watching waiting for something to happen. Whilst its good that noone is harmed, I think most people are disappointed they didn't see anything at all whether or not they admit it. Its kind of like when you slow down on a motorway when theres a crash on the other side, and can't wait to tell someone about it. You don't consider for a second about the people involved in the crash ...

Anyway I don't think its getting any stricter, I just think there have been more moronic events lately than usual

[Stu]

People would not have been watching if they didn't think anything was going to happen. People were watching waiting for something to happen. Whilst its good that noone is harmed, I think most people are disappointed they didn't see anything at all whether or not they admit it. Its kind of like when you slow down on a motorway when theres a crash on the other side, and can't wait to tell someone about it. You don't consider for a second about the people involved in the crash ...
I agree completely. It dosn't fundamentally make you a bad person but watching the news is a voyeuristic activity. News channels got huge ratings the day of 9/11 because it was an event. It was a spectacle. One derived directly from human misery. And by god, people sat watching that all day. Were the people watching the 9/11 coverage in Scunthorpe watching soley to keep updated in case Al Quabadeda set their sights on Scunthorpe? I highly doubt it.

[Tom]

I agree completely. It dosn't fundamentally make you a bad person but watching the news is a voyeuristic activity. News channels got huge ratings the day of 9/11 because it was an event. It was a spectacle. One derived directly from human misery. And by god, people sat watching that all day. Were the people watching the 9/11 coverage in Scunthorpe watching soley to keep updated in case Al Quabadeda set their sights on Scunthorpe? I highly doubt it.

... and people who were watching BBC News brag about seeing the second tower going down, because they saw it on live TV.

Some people are far too PC these days and speak what others want to hear.

[WOMBAI]

It is morbid curiosity!

[Stu]

E.g. voyeurism.

[Enid]

Schadenfreude is the word to describe that. We all love to watch others suffer - from silly little things like falling over, to crashing and burning to death. It's human nature. Nothing to be ashamed of.

[Niamh.]

Schadenfreude is the word to describe that. We all love to watch others suffer - from silly little things like falling over, to crashing and burning to death. It's human nature. Nothing to be ashamed of.

Some people might but not everyone does

[arista]

Im taking that as a compliment...as I dont quite understand what you meant arista...maybe because Ive had like 2 hours sleep :p


It means no one can
call you stupid.

[Tom]

Some people might but not everyone does

It depends if you have control over it or not

[WOMBAI]

Schadenfreude is the word to describe that. We all love to watch others suffer - from silly little things like falling over, to crashing and burning to death. It's human nature. Nothing to be ashamed of.

I would be ashamed if I loved to watch someone burning to death! I don't think people other than sociopaths, as mentioned in another thread, would actually love to see that!

[Niamh.]

It depends if you have control over it or not

No, I have to disagree with you, I hate watching people suffer, I don't even watch the news

[Enid]

Some people might but not everyone does
No I think we all do to some extent. Obviously, with some people it can become an obsession and quite sick, like me - I search for these things, FFS lol.

But it's all about survival, really. You see someone falling over, you laugh, not just because it's funny, but because you DIDN'T. You watch a tragic car crash and subconsciously think, "I've got one up on this dead guy". It may sound ridiculous, but it's true.

[arista]

Schadenfreude is the word to describe that. We all love to watch others suffer - from silly little things like falling over, to crashing and burning to death. It's human nature. Nothing to be ashamed of.



Yes Ultra Evil Big Brother
is Bliss.




Life In The Fast Lane.

[InOne]

I would be ashamed if I loved to watch someone burning to death! I don't think people other than sociopaths, as mentioned in another thread, would actually love to see that!

Nah, I don't enjoy it but is fascinates me, like not people burning to dead but death and all that stuff in general.

[Niamh.]

No I think we all do to some extent. Obviously, with some people it can become an obsession and quite sick, like me - I search for these things, FFS lol.

But it's all about survival, really. You see someone falling over, you laugh, not just because it's funny, but because you DIDN'T. You watch a tragic car crash and subconsciously think, "I've got one up on this dead guy". It may sound ridiculous, but it's true.

You might think like that but I certainly don't and I don't get how you can say that everyone thinks like that? All I know for sure is my own mind and what I think, and I hate seeing people suffer and do not get any enjoyment from it

[Tom]

I would be ashamed if I loved to watch someone burning to death! I don't think people other than sociopaths, as mentioned in another thread, would actually love to see that!

Do you watch the news? Even if you don't enjoy it at face value, you still have an interest in these things. For example if the woman who lives next door but one left her cooker on and burnt her house down and died, I bet you'd want to know all about it.

[Enid]

You might think like that but I certainly don't and I don't get how you can say that everyone thinks like that? All I know for sure is my own mind and what I think, and I hate seeing people suffer and do not get any enjoyment from it
Because it's all in the subconscious mind.

[WOMBAI]

You might think like that but I certainly don't and I don't get how you can say that everyone thinks like that? All I know for sure is my own mind and what I think, and I hate seeing people suffer and do not get any enjoyment from it

Completely agree! I think we all have a natural curiosity about death, based on fear - but I don't think most would enjoy seeing others suffer to any degree!

[Niamh.]

Because it's all in the subconscious mind.

So I think I'm not enjoying something but I actually am? eh no.

[Enid]

Completely agree! I think we all have a natural curiosity about death, based on fear - but I don't think most would enjoy seeing others suffer to any degree!
So both of you are saying you don't slightly giggle or smile at the sight of someone slipping or falling over?

[Tom]

So both of you are saying you don't slightly giggle or smile at the sight of someone slipping or falling over?

Its a shame I've changed my avatar thanks to the new forum :(

[Stu]

We all carry the ability to take pleasure from others suffering. Sorry, but that's just what evolution has given to us. Some people can control it in a certain way and others can not.

Without it, shows where fat people fall into wedding cakes on someones Sony Mini DV on Sky 3 would not exist. Without it videogames based around shooting the **** out of things would not exist.

[Enid]

Its a shame I've changed my avatar thanks to the new forum :(
What was it before?

[WOMBAI]

So both of you are saying you don't slightly giggle or smile at the sight of someone slipping or falling over?

Maybe - in some circumstances - but that is only minor. You wouldn't enjoy seeing someone suffer like in burning to death, surely!

[Iceman]

Bit stupid to throw everyone in the same category.....not everyone takes pleasure from someone falling over or dying......

[Enid]

We all carry the ability to take pleasure from others suffering. Sorry, but that's just what evolution has given to us. Some people can control it in a certain way and others can not.

Without it, shows where fat people fall into wedding cakes on someones Sony Mini DV on Sky 3 would not exist. Without it videogames based around shooting the **** out of things would not exist.
Without this, You've Been Framed would not exist, and that is a classic TV show.

[Niamh.]

So both of you are saying you don't slightly giggle or smile at the sight of someone slipping or falling over?

That's not seeing someone suffer though

[Niamh.]

We all carry the ability to take pleasure from others suffering. Sorry, but that's just what evolution has given to us. Some people can control it in a certain way and others can not.

Without it, shows where fat people fall into wedding cakes on someones Sony Mini DV on Sky 3 would not exist. Without it videogames based around shooting the **** out of things would not exist.

I take no pleasure in watching people suffer thank you very much.

[Tom]

What was it before?

cG07DqewQN0

The memories

[Enid]

Maybe - in some circumstances - but that is only minor. You wouldn't enjoy seeing someone suffer like in burning to death, surely!
Well that was just an example, and a great extent of this. It doesn't matter how minor it is, it is still taking pleasure from the suffering of others!

[Enid]

That's not seeing someone suffer though
Of course it is. That other person's humiliation and possible injury! You don't take into account that someone could seriously injure their back when falling over.

[Enid]

cG07DqewQN0

The memories
Oh yes, now I remember. :D

[Jords]

I take back saying all actions they do have fair reasons, last night was terrible. :bored:

But anyway gotta move on its only a forum afterall!

[Stu]

That's not seeing someone suffer though
Yes it is. Falling over is suffering. Nobody wants to fall over. There are different degrees of suffering just like everybody has a different control on their subconcious.

Do I take pleasure from people burning? No. Do I take pleasure from watching stupid people meet their fate? Hell yeah.

[Tom]

Of course it is. That other person's humiliation and possible injury! You don't take into account that someone could seriously injure their back when falling over.

Even if they do its still funny, especially if they seriously damage their fringe when they fall

gvsoS_fGl4E

[WOMBAI]

Well that was just an example, and a great extent of this. It doesn't matter how minor it is, it is still taking pleasure from the suffering of others!

I might find it funny if it was some cocky little twit showing off and tripping up and making a fool of himself - but I wouldn't find it funny if it was an 80 year old who fell over and broke their hip - big difference!

[Niamh.]

Yes it is. Falling over is suffering. Nobody wants to fall over. There are different degrees of suffering just like everybody has a different control on their subconcious.

Do I take pleasure from people burning? No. Do I take pleasure from watching stupid people meet their fate? Hell yeah.

tbh, I don't even find people falling over funny, you've been framed is crap. Don't tell me what I think, how could you possibly know?

[Tom]

I might find it funny if it was some cocky little twit showing off and tripping up and making a fool of himself - but I wouldn't find it funny if it was an 80 year old who fell over and broke their hip - big difference!

Oh you never laugh at old people when falling, thats a crime against humanity :nono:

[Enid]

I might find it funny if it was some cocky little twit showing off and tripping up and making a fool of himself - but I wouldn't find it funny if it was an 80 year old who fell over and broke their hip - big difference!
But I bet you'd still watch it happen. ;)

[Enid]

Even if they do its still funny, especially if they seriously damage their fringe when they fall

gvsoS_fGl4E
I love the vintage Bettie Page style hairdo.

[Stu]

tbh, I don't even find people falling over funny, you've been framed is crap. Don't tell me what I think, how could you possibly know?
I'm not trying to tell you what you think. It's in your subcouncious. Your not thinking it.

People missing the point all round the gaf here.

[Crimson Dynamo]

AtboTwW-Jao

[Stu]

Schadenfreude is the word to describe that. We all love to watch others suffer - from silly little things like falling over, to crashing and burning to death. It's human nature. Nothing to be ashamed of.
I might find it funny if it was some cocky little twit showing off and tripping up and making a fool of himself - but I wouldn't find it funny if it was an 80 year old who fell over and broke their hip - big difference!
Point proved.

[Enid]

I'm not trying to tell you what you think. It's in your subcouncious. Your not thinking it.

People missing the point all round the gaf here.
Yeah.

Why do we listen to depressing music or films that we know will make us feel depressed? Why, when we have the feeling our partner is cheating, do we feel the need to check their inbox and discover their dirty little secret when we know it will break our heart?

It's subconscious behaviour. We can deny it all we like, but we like to suffer and we like to watch others suffer too.

[Harry!]

I'm trying to think of comparisons, the only one I can think of from the past was Harry's first graphics shop. Plenty of 'bullying' like behaviour went on in that thread, and no posts were deleted, even though numerous posts from mods were made, and it took 28 pages before the thread was eventually closed.

That's unheard of now.

Yes I agree with that post (Maybe as it has my name, You never know). There was a few 'bullies' in that thread and locking of it was partly my option. Other graphics shops were locked for other reasons. But yet again I was at fault also by being a 'diva' as it were. They failed looking back now. Never again.

[\PJ/]

People hate to admit they find bad things funny because they care to much about what others think.

[WOMBAI]

Yeah.

Why do we listen to depressing music or films that we know will make us feel depressed? Why, when we have the feeling our partner is cheating, do we feel the need to check their inbox and discover their dirty little secret when we know it will break our heart?

It's subconscious behaviour. We can deny it all we like, but we like to suffer and we like to watch others suffer too.

I think what you are talking about is curiosity - which is based on fear - but it is far too sweeping a statement to say that subconciously we all like to see others suffer in any serious kind of way!

[Niamh.]

I'm not trying to tell you what you think. It's in your subcouncious. Your not thinking it.

People missing the point all round the gaf here.

So I'm feeling it then? I'm just trying to understand what you mean by that, I know I don't enjoy it so what do you mean by subconsciously exactly?

[Crimson Dynamo]

People hate to admit they find bad things funny because they care to much about what others think.

I think most would draw the line at My Family?

[Niamh.]

Yeah.

Why do we listen to depressing music or films that we know will make us feel depressed? Why, when we have the feeling our partner is cheating, do we feel the need to check their inbox and discover their dirty little secret when we know it will break our heart?

It's subconscious behaviour. We can deny it all we like, but we like to suffer and we like to watch others suffer too.

Because we don't want to be taken for a fool

[Zippy]

Without this, You've Been Framed would not exist, and that is a classic TV show.

I dread to think how many babies and young kids lives have been put at risk because daddy wanted to win £500 by sending in a "hilarious" video clip of his baby somersaulting off a swing or falling headfirst off a highchair.

Stupid irresponsible show. And faker than Pammys t*ts.

[Enid]

I dread to think how many babies and young kids lives have been put at risk because daddy wanted to win £500 by sending in a "hilarious" video clip of his baby somersaulting off a swing or falling headfirst off a highchair.

Stupid irresponsible show. And faker than Pammys t*ts.
That isn't the point.

Fake or not, we still watch it, and it makes us laugh. How else is it so popular?

[Niamh.]

That isn't the point.

Fake or not, we still watch it, and it makes us laugh. How else is it so popular?

I don't watch it, I think it's stupid tbh

[Enid]

I don't watch it, I think it's stupid tbh
Why do you think many people do watch it though?

[Enid]

I'm sorry, this has become some irrelevant debate now, hahah.

[Niamh.]

Why do you think many people do watch it though?

I understand what you're saying but like I said I can only speak for myself and what I think and what I feel.

[Stu]

So I'm feeling it then? I'm just trying to understand what you mean by that, I know I don't enjoy it so what do you mean by subconsciously exactly?
Your subconscious as in, say, the thoughts that never get thunk [?!]. Your conscious mind is made up of thoughts you decided to drag up from the subconscious. That's who you are. All those other junk thoughts and who you are not, they stay down in the subconscious. Who knows, it could be in my subconscious to be a murderer. That shouldn't shock you. What matters is what makes it to the conscious state and the choices you make. That defines who you are.

[Zippy]

That isn't the point.

Fake or not, we still watch it, and it makes us laugh. How else is it so popular?

Because the masses are dumb. Wasn't that long ago that public hangings were all the rage. No doubt they'd still pull in the crowds if brought back.

Personally, seeing people, especially children, get hurt just makes me cringe. And Im a huge horror film fan! But real suffering is different.

[Niamh.]

Your subconscious as in, say, the thoughts that never get thunk [?!]. Your conscious mind is made up of thoughts you decided to drag up from the subconscious. That's who you are. All those other junk thoughts and who you are not, they stay down in the subconscious. Who knows, it could be in my subconscious to be a murderer. That shouldn't shock you. What matters is what makes it to the conscious state and the choices you make. That defines who you are.

So how could anybody possibly know what is in our subconscious mind If they haven't been thought at all?

[Stu]

So how could anybody possibly know what is in our subconscious mind If they haven't been thought at all?
Beats me. I'm not a neurological scientist. But neurological scientists exist.

Your dreams, for instance, are often a result of your subconscious slipping in and taking control when you fall asleep.

[Enid]

Survival of the fittest and social comparison. That's all it is really.

[Niamh.]

Beats me. I'm not a neurological scientist. But neurological scientists exist.

Your dreams, for instance, are often a result of your subconscious slipping in and taking control when you fall asleep.

even if neurological scientists can see what thoughts are in your subconscious, every person is different so they still couldn't say for definite that every person enjoys watching others suffer unless they've tested every person (or whatever they do)

[Stu]

even if neurological scientists can see what thoughts are in your subconscious, every person is different so they still couldn't say for definite that every person enjoys watching others suffer unless they've tested every person (or whatever they do)
They can't see specific thoughts. It's not like a cystal ball nestling in the basement of a neuroscience lab. But evolution has afforded us all certain things. Girls have vaginas. Men have dicks. We all share certain thought patterns and whatnot. Amongst them, the instinctual ability to take pleasure from human suffering.

It's not a case of 'everyone is different'. Everyone is different, yes, consciously speaking. But we are not consciously speaking, here.

Why do children have an instinctual fear of monsters? Because in the early stages of human evolution, our predecessors were snatched away in the jaws of cougars at night.

[Jack_]

Its actually a bit ridiculous that you cant see reasons why infractions were given and threads were closed. You gotta look at it in 2 frames of minds, yes it may be funny to some (I admit to finding somethings funny) or just a debate, but it may offend others and it is not appropriate so deal with the consequences.

I disagree with Smithy getting an infraction for arguing though, plenty of that happens on here.

You're missing the point. I can see why the threads were locked/infractions were handed out. I can see that.

All I'm trying to say is that:

A) The forum has become stricter than it was
B) It's a Big Brother forum, which is related to adult content, as I've already been through a thousand times.

Insults Deleted.

A strict forum that really wanted to keep the place clean looking would ban both offensive members and members who are ... well ... stupid? As it stands we have a great policy on banning people for making offensive jokes but absoloutely no policy at all on trolltastic Edit language who could be viewed as a benig offensive to humanity.

Edit of us filthy young things with our bad language but yeah. I wouldn't say this place is strict. Although locking that disaster thread was incredibly stupid. You don't like the thread? Aww. Leave then. I don't like plenty of threads. Can we close them based soley on my opinion or is that a luxury confined to moderators?

On a strict forum, we would never have had to put up with the MeMyself&I trouble becauce the IP would have been banned first day. Jobs done, case closed, thank you and don't come again.

And seriously - how stupid is the obligation to close threads that offend people? Can these people not find the back button? Do they need the thread to be vaccum sealed and shot into space to sleep soundly at night?

Plus as Sticks said - GIVE REASONS WHY YOUR CLOSING YOUR THREADS. Do your job properly peeps. Nobody ever explains what's going on and we then have a further four threads wondering what's going on. Usually they end up locked too.

Insults deleted.

Couldn't have put that any ****ing better. How I wish I could have seen the edited bits, though :(

But its good for members like Jack to keep questioning how the wheels turn here. As long as he's doing it from a genuine place then it's all good. Im not here enough to really give a monkeys. But he is and seems to really care about the place and how it's run.

Exactly, and thanks :thumbs:

Jack just wants to tell dirty jokes!

:sleep:

Again, someone else who is completely missing the point of the thread and is choosing to ignore posts. This isn't about dirty jokes. Hell, we even got our thread, and it wasn't closed. I'm over it. This is a seperate matter. Good lord.

[setanta]

Yeah.

Why do we listen to depressing music or films that we know will make us feel depressed? Why, when we have the feeling our partner is cheating, do we feel the need to check their inbox and discover their dirty little secret when we know it will break our heart?

It's subconscious behaviour. We can deny it all we like, but we like to suffer and we like to watch others suffer too.

Nah, I think that's masochistic behaviour, which we all have a natural tendency to partake in from time to time. And then yeah, there's a sadistic element in all humans, which is more pronounced in some individuals.

[Zippy]

Why do children have an instinctual fear of monsters? Because in the early stages of human evolution, our predecessors were snatched away in the jaws of cougars at night.

lol

Who doesn't have a fear of monsters? :joker:

Lets not start bringing cougars into it. Unless you mean ladies of the older persuasion hunting down young boys.

[Niamh.]

They can't see specific thoughts. It's not like a cystal ball nestling in the basement of a neuroscience lab. But evolution has afforded us all certain things. Girls have vaginas. Men have dicks. We all share certain thought patterns and whatnot. Amongst them, the instinctual ability to take pleasure from human suffering.

It's not a case of 'everyone is different'. Everyone is different, yes, consciously speaking. But we are not consciously speaking, here.

Why do children have an instinctual fear of monsters? Because in the early stages of human evolution, our predecessors were snatched away in the jaws of cougars at night.

I need to read up on this a bit more

[setanta]

They can't see specific thoughts. It's not like a cystal ball nestling in the basement of a neuroscience lab. But evolution has afforded us all certain things. Girls have vaginas. Men have dicks. We all share certain thought patterns and whatnot. Amongst them, the instinctual ability to take pleasure from human suffering.

It's not a case of 'everyone is different'. Everyone is different, yes, consciously speaking. But we are not consciously speaking, here.

Why do children have an instinctual fear of monsters? Because in the early stages of human evolution, our predecessors were snatched away in the jaws of cougars at night.

Nah Stu, you're talking about the fear reflex there. We laugh at people falling because at first it gives us a shock and we're in fear of them injuring themselves but then when we see that they're ok we laugh at the whole experience out of relief. It's the bodies natural reaction.

But taking pleasure in actual real suffering is a totally different thing.

[Stu]

You're missing the point. I can see why the threads were locked/infractions were handed out. I can see that.

All I'm trying to say is that:

A) The forum has become stricter than it was
B) It's a Big Brother forum, which is related to adult content, as I've already been through a thousand times.



Couldn't have put that any ****ing better. How I wish I could have seen the edited bits, though :(



Exactly, and thanks :thumbs:



:sleep:

Again, someone else who is completely missing the point of the thread and is choosing to ignore posts. This isn't about dirty jokes. Hell, we even got our thread, and it wasn't closed. I'm over it. This is a seperate matter. Good lord.
I said James always thinks his right and if he isn't, the thread gets locked/post gets removed. This was regarded as an insult and was worth three infraction points.

And proving my point better than I ever could myself, of course.

[Jack_]

I said James always thinks his right and if he isn't, the thread gets locked/post gets removed. This was regarded as an insult and was worth three infraction points.

And proving my point better than I ever could myself, of course.

Trufax, and that's typical, really.

[Stu]

Nah Stu, you're talking about the fear reflex there. We laugh at people falling because at first it gives us a shock and we're in fear of them injuring themselves but then when we see that they're ok we laugh at the whole experience out of relief. It's the bodies natural reaction.

But taking pleasure in actual real suffering is a totally different thing.
No doubt. Obviously you can draw all sorts of lines in all sorts of places. I'm not trying to put murderers on the same wavelenght as people who actually find You've Been Framed funny.

Although in retrospect, maybe we should :wink:.

[Jords]

Jack I understand where your coming from now, you know why infractions were given and threads were close which is cool. Last night was a good example of the forum being too strict though which I never really saw. Chat and games posts dont add to your count as apparently there is too much spamming, and although post counts dont matter its just a silly thing to do (spamming in other places now, its just a bit of fun keeping track of post counts?). He then allowed it again, then stopped it after a troll came on and Mark banned Jaye for no reason but he was being patronising to her. :shrug: Then for making silly threads being wound up me and Jess got 5 infraction points which is a crazy amount (mine were removed though as it was a first time offence).

So the forum can be very lenient at times but also very strict when it wants to be, I conclude it has a menstrual cycle. :)

[Mrluvaluva]

What the hell are infraction points? And are referrals on your statistics the same as warnings?

[Jords]

What the hell are infraction points? And are referrals on your statistics the same as warnings?

Warnings when youve been naughty, I lost my virginity of them last night. :(

[Mrluvaluva]

Warnings when youve been naughty, I lost my virginity of them last night. :(

:nono: Terribly naughty. I myself of course have never received any so was unsure what you were referring to. :whistle:

[Jords]

:nono: Terribly naughty. I myself of course have never received any so was unsure what you were referring to. :whistle:

I know. :blush:

Well I dont have any as they were reversed but the 'Infraction' tab stays on your profile. :shocked:

[Raph]

chatandgames thread posts don't count? :O

[Crimson Dynamo]

Perhaps the upside of this ranging thread will be that people will be a little nicer to each other and will avoid hurling insults right, left and centre - like the Hulk would do if he were real..

[Jords]

Perhaps the upside of this ranging thread will be that people will be a little nicer to each other and will avoid hurling insults right, left and centre - like the Hulk would do if he were real..

Love you LT!

Nope not anymore Samy.

[arista]

Perhaps the upside of this ranging thread will be that people will be a little nicer to each other and will avoid hurling insults right, left and centre - like the Hulk would do if he were real..



No No
This is not a Stinking Yanks Starbucks Forum



And leave the Hulk out of this.

[Wildcat!]

I want some infraction points!!! :mad:
What does a brotha gotta do to get those? :conf:

[Crimson Dynamo]

No No
This is not a Stinking Yanks Starbucks Forum



And leave the Hulk out of this.

Aha, here is a man that knows about infractions and lengthy bans

[Stu]

looooooooooooolz

[Raph]

Love you LT!

Nope not anymore Samy.

omg, really! that's terrible! :bawling:

[Jords]

omg, really! that's terrible! :bawling:

Mark's just explained why in The Cabin and it seems pretty fair, and theyre working on ways to get it so posts count only if its a sentece + long and not just like 'lol :p', then itll be back on in Chat and Games, I agree with it tbh.

[2010..BB]

am appalled at how strict tibb has got, i have made a few threads which i think are good debates

should thailand be blown up (prostitution)
should that whale be eaten (animal rights)
children and there rights (peodophila)

also i have 2 infractions for "disguting" and rasicm?

[Enid]

TiBB is not strict. Admins and mods are incredibly lenient.

[Mrluvaluva]

Mark's just explained why in The Cabin and it seems pretty fair, and theyre working on ways to get it so posts count only if its a sentece + long and not just like 'lol :p', then itll be back on in Chat and Games, I agree with it tbh.

That just made me think. On DS you cannot post unless you type in a minimum amount of characters. So you cannot type things like "lol" only, although I think most of us are guilty of that once in a while.

[2010..BB]

TiBB is not strict. Admins and mods are incredibly lenient.

what are you chatting? of course they are. there stricter than the police!!!

[arista]

what are you chatting? of course they are. there stricter than the police!!!



They are Not Police.

For Example
Vicky is a Cool Mod
she is most wise.

[Captain.Remy]

The forum wouldn't have gotten this strict (I don't think it changed to be honest) if the amount of "roflmaololz ikr bitch gurl ily" morons didn't sky rocked for the past few months.

[arista]

The forum wouldn't have gotten this strict (I don't think it changed to be honest) if the amount of "roflmaololz ikr bitch gurl ily" morons didn't sky rocked for the past few months.



Yes the Nappy Gang.

[2010..BB]

vicky dont npo her head from her arse however she did make me laugh yeah i like vicky, 2bh shes the onbly on i know?

[Enid]

what are you chatting? of course they are. there stricter than the police!!!
Stricter than the police?

O...kay...

[arista]

vicky dont npo her head from her arse however she did make me laugh yeah i like vicky, 2bh shes the onbly on i know?


This Site does not have Text Use.
Stop it it before you get done.

[2010..BB]

look.. im saying there stricter than the police and judge courts because i was accused of being disgusting for saying its a childs fault if they got raped!!

im outraged

[arista]

Stricter than the police?

O...kay...


You might like some of that.

[Enid]

look.. im saying there stricter than the police and judge courts because i was accused of being disgusting for saying its a childs fault if they got raped!!

im outraged
Oh I get it now. :)

[Jords]

look.. im saying there stricter than the police and judge courts because i was accused of being disgusting for saying its a childs fault if they got raped!!

im outraged

:crazy:

[arista]

look.. im saying there stricter than the police and judge courts because i was accused of being disgusting for saying its a childs fault if they got raped!!

im outraged





Outraged in what way?

[Captain.Remy]

look.. im saying there stricter than the police and judge courts because i was accused of being disgusting for saying its a childs fault if they got raped!!

im outraged

Anyone else thinks there is a problem out there or is it me being extremely tired ?

[2010..BB]

arista YOUR A MORON YOUVE DONE IT LOADS OF TIMES YOU CHEEKY DEVIL!

[Enid]

You might like some of that.
I just love it when someone dressed in uniform inserts a baton into my cooch.

[arista]

:crazy:

Stop picking on the Nappy Gang.

[Stu]

Yes the Nappy Gang.
Yeah if the trolls were banned on site we wouldn't have to go vigilante on their asses and risk bans.

[arista]

I just love it when someone dressed in uniform inserts a baton into my cooch.


You will be Spitting in my Gob soon.

[Jords]

Stop picking on the Nappy Gang.

You agree its the child's fault they got raped then?

[Enid]

You will be Spitting in my Gob soon.
;)

[arista]

arista YOUR A MORON YOUVE DONE IT LOADS OF TIMES YOU CHEEKY DEVIL!


Caps are Banned on here
Hon.

[arista]

You agree its the child's fault they got raped then?

No.
I do not know that Topic.

[Shasown]

It is similar to Scottish referees and Celtic

its a conspiracy...

Dont see the similarity about the admin staff here. but its nice to see to a gers fan actually admit the truth, that Scottish refs are biased against Celtic.

Cheers leather :wink:

[2010..BB]

children are not as vunerable as you all seem to think, my sister was accused of looking at kids last june she was a nursery nurse...

[Stu]

children are not as vunerable as you all seem to think, my sister was accused of looking at kids last june she was a nursery nurse...
yOuR hIlLaRiOuS

[Patrick]

I love how 21 Hours on and this thread is still at the top and not closed lol

[Stu]

I suppose they would look like complete fools if they closed it at this stage.