Should they bring Titanic Home for 2012?

[Patrick]

There have been a few articals I have read about plans to re-build the Titanic in Belfast.
Some are saying it will include a Cinema,Restraunt,Gift Shop.. others are saying Hotel,Cruise Ship or Muesum.


The first artical was posted in 2000.
Read Here (http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2000/dec/31/theobserver.uknews2)

The second and most recent artical was 2008.
Read Here (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/northern_ireland/7464369.stm)

So that 2nd Artical tells us that they would basically confirm it in Summer 2008.

Summer 2008 has came, and what a lovely time it was but its 2 years ago now.

And they didnt get back to us.

There are still some rumours going about here in Belfast of this happening, apperantly its going to be built beside the Odyssey Arena, just the front of the Titanic.


I think this would take ages to make am I right?
People on Youtube are discussing how they think this will be made in 2012 for Titanic's 100th Anniversary.

I can tell you now from living here, that theres no sign what so ever of the Titanic being rebuilt, I hate saying that.
As if its being rebuilt to go out at sea lol

So they basically have 2 years left before 2012 to get this done.

2010 Is going fast isnt it!

I think its unfair how California have a Titanic Muesum, with parts from the ship.
Belfast has basically I guess you could say **** all with the Titanic.
As the Americans took it all.

Theres an exibit on yearly at the Odyssey Arena with bits and bobs from the ship but I think the least they could do is build the Titanic again.


Like one of those articals said, it would be good for tourists and stuff.


Has anyone else heard anything about this?
I searched through google and havent found any statments saying 'It cant be done' or 'No we arent doing it'
They all seem pretty positive but say 'We will confirm it soon' and still havent, so wtf is keeping them?



Would you go to see the Titanic Rebuilt, and go inside it?
Would you be in favour of this happening?
Do you think it can happen?
What else do you think of the possibility of the Titanic being remade in Belfast?


I found some images of what it would look like here if the 'Titanic II' Plan were to happen, IMO it looks nice.
And actually shows it was made here, if im honest with you, you wouldnt have a ****ing clue it was made in Ireland, they have a couple of posters down near the docks saying 'Titanic Quater' or 'Titanic was made here' Thats it.

I was shocked reading Yahoo Answers at the ammount of idiots who thought the Titanic was built in America yet it was sailing to New york :joker:

So heres the pictures:

http://i45.tinypic.com/pb0k0.jpg
http://i45.tinypic.com/oftsfr.jpg
http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/44763000/jpg/_44763212_titanicplan.jpg

[Princess]

Edited your pics so the thread doesn't stretch :)

[Patrick]

Edited your pics so the thread doesn't stretch :)

Alrighty, Thanks :thumbs:

[Beastie]

no

[Patrick]

..hmm, what do we have mha'ere...
A new Channel 4 series will challenge four skilled men and women to rebuild integral parts of Titanic.

This new primetime series for Channel 4 (UK) and National Geographic (USA) will explore an extraordinary era of industrial history and bring to life the truly colossal task that was achieved in the construction of Titanic. An ambitious building challenge will be at the core of each episode. Using traditional Edwardian techniques, machinery and materials, the team will rebuild or restore integral parts of the legendary vessel.

The series will not just focus on Titanic, but will also explore the larger topics of British industry and Edwardian manufacturing, as well as the social history of this era.

We’re looking for passionate engineers, construction workers, architects and designers who have worked on large-scale projects… people with applicable skills who are also happy to be hands-on. These individuals will head up the pioneering team that will take on this exciting challenge.

[Patrick]

Just found a few more articals, they are all from 2008 ffs.

[InOne]

Titanic was cursed from the start. And the actual ship that sank was not the original titanic

[Shasown]

Seems like a good scheme to generate work for locals craftsmen etc, would be nice to see something dedicated to the Titanic in Belfast, just so long as its nothing that will go to sea
.

[Patrick]

Titanic was cursed from the start. And the actual ship that sank was not the original titanic

Are you one of those that belive the sank ship was the Olympic?

It doesnt matter if it was 'cursed' from the start, point is it sank, yes it would be a very bad idea if they were to set the 'Titanic II' out to sea with people on it, but they wouldnt.

It would scare people away, I ment building the replica on land.

[Patrick]

Why is it 4 people have said No, but none have given a reason? pmsl

[InOne]

Are you one of those that belive the sank ship was the Olympic?

It doesnt matter if it was 'cursed' from the start, point is it sank, yes it would be a very bad idea if they were to set the 'Titanic II' out to sea with people on it, but they wouldnt.

It would scare people away, I ment building the replica on land.

It's a fact I think. And yeah, no point calling a ship the Titanic II or anything, plenty of cruise ships that are better out there.

[Patrick]

It's a fact I think. And yeah, no point calling a ship the Titanic II or anything, plenty of cruise ships that are better out there.

Is there anything to back it up?
Im not going against it tbh.

I dont think they would call it Titanic II if im honest, and it wouldnt be a cruise ship.
It would literally stick out from a wall lol

[InOne]

Is there anything to back it up?
Im not going against it tbh.

I dont think they would call it Titanic II if im honest, and it wouldnt be a cruise ship.
It would literally stick out from a wall lol

The Titanic was a very rare event. No ship these days would hit an iceberg.

[Shasown]

Heres a link to a web page that puts forward one of the Olympic/Titanic conspiracy theories

http://library.thinkquest.org/18626/SSwitch.html

But to swap ships would be a bit, lets say obvious, wouldnt a lot of people have to be involved.

[Jessica.]

The Titanic is history.
Keep it a mystery!

[GhettoSuperstar]

Call it Cinatit. :D

[Patrick]

The Titanic is history.
Keep it a mystery!

I dont get what you mean by keeping it a mystery when the Americans have basically took half of the items from it to California.

I think it should be built here just due to the fact it was built here, where as it seems other countries are actually showing more of an intrest than here, I actually emailed the council about this earlier :joker::joker:

[Jessica.]

I dont get what you mean by keeping it a mystery when the Americans have basically took half of the items from it to California.

I think it should be built here just due to the fact it was built here, where as it seems other countries are actually showing more of an intrest than here, I actually emailed the council about this earlier :joker::joker:

:laugh2: I think the experience of the Titanic is a mystery. Being on the actual ship. I wouldn't like it to be rebuilt. Just my opinion.

[Patrick]

:laugh2: I think the experience of the Titanic is a mystery. Being on the actual ship. I wouldn't like it to be rebuilt. Just my opinion.

Oh right thats what you ment :joker: Fair enough, it is good to imagine what it would of been like on the ship so I suppose what you mean is if they build it again then it would just take all the imagination out of thinking what it was like all those years ago lol.

I just read on TheSun.co.uk that they 'were going to build one in Southampton' :joker: Thats taking the piss.

I know its not true, at least it better not bloody be as it would make no sense, right? :joker:

[Harry!]

No. Keep the Titanic left where it is, It is like lifing a body from a grave. Keep it there.

[Sticks]

I think the recession probably killed this project off stone dead.

[Tom]

They should never raise it. Ever. Leave it where it is. Plus its lodged into the sea bed now anyway.

I'm in 2 minds about whether they should build a replica as some kind of museum. On one hand it would be quite good and interesting, but on the other hand it would ruin the legacy. But if they ever do do it, it would be best to happen in Southampton and use it as some kind of memorial too.

And it wasn't the Olympic that sunk either whoever said that- they've retrieved parts of the Titanic with the Titanic's number on it. And the Titanic is a slightly different shape which is the shame at the bottom of the Atlantic. But Olympic got the Titanic's original propeller.

[Patrick]

LOL Guys, I didnt say RAISE it, alot of you seem to be replying as if I think it should be brought back from the Atlantic.

That would be horrible for 2 reasons:

1. It would upset alot of people.
2. Its dangerous as the thing could crumble to peices and that would ruin History.



I simply ment, if its a good idea for them to build a replica in the City it was made for its 100th Anniversary.

[Patrick]

No. Keep the Titanic left where it is, It is like lifing a body from a grave. Keep it there.



I'm in 2 minds about whether they should build a replica as some kind of museum. On one hand it would be quite good and interesting, but on the other hand it would ruin the legacy. But if they ever do do it, it would be best to happen in Southampton and use it as some kind of memorial too.


Why Southampton?




And it wasn't the Olympic that sunk either whoever said that- they've retrieved parts of the Titanic with the Titanic's number on it. And the Titanic is a slightly different shape which is the shame at the bottom of the Atlantic. But Olympic got the Titanic's original propeller.

Oh right, thanks for clearing that up.

[Tom]

Why Southampton?

Southampton is where it sailed from, and as a result thats where most people who died were from. It was heavily affected- almost everyone in Southampton was directly affected and 500 homes lost a member.

[Patrick]

Southampton is where it sailed from, and as a result thats where most people who died were from. It was heavily affected- almost everyone in Southampton was directly affected and 500 homes lost a member.

Oh okay, so thats were the place at the start of the movie was ment to be..

If im honest, if they were going to build a replica it should be in Belfast no Southampton, doesnt matter if it sailed from there even though that may be a big part of it, it was made here you get me?

Its like if they were going to make a Cruise ship though, then it would probley go to Southampton then, as it would be leaving on the same route as the Ship.

But building a replic, should be placed in the place were the original was build.

[Loukas]

They shouldn't raise it, they should keep it where it is.. But i would agree to having like a replica built for tourists!

[Jessica.]

No way!!!!!!

[MrGaryy]

I think it sounds like a really cool idea to be honest.

[Patrick]

They shouldn't raise it, they should keep it where it is.. But i would agree to having like a replica built for tourists!



Yes it shouldnt be raised.


Agree with that last part also.

[Iceman]

No the people who died should be left to rest there.

[Patrick]

For the last time, I DO NOT MEAN RAISING THE SHIP FROM THE WATER, with Bones flying off.

It would be rude, like you lot have said.

Plus like I have said, it would crumble to peices because its been there so long.

[Dom:)]

Yes!

[Iceman]

Oh right i didnt read it properly, sorry!

[Patrick]

Oh right i didnt read it properly, sorry!

Sorry didnt mean that to sound like I was saying it in a bad way to you, but its annoying when people repeatly say 'No its disrespectful to raise it' when I didnt say in my post that it should be took from the sea bed.

[Shasown]

For the last time, I DO NOT MEAN RAISING THE SHIP FROM THE WATER, with Bones flying off.

It would be rude, like you lot have said.

Plus like I have said, it would crumble to peices because its been there so long.

Its now not only rude its also illegal.

The United States Congress responded to previous salvage expeditions by passing laws that made illegal the unauthorized removal of artifacts from the Titanic wreckage.

A treaty between Britain Canada the US and France also prevents attempts to raise artifacts or salvage the vessel.

[BB_Eye]

They should build a new Titanic piece by piece and have it set sail from Southhampton on the anniversary and just pray it arrives in New York, lol.

[Callum]

I would love for a replica to be built. The Titanic story has always intrigued me and it would be so cool to be able to say I've been on a replica of the Titanic, it would have to be so big though! They should make a ride too where you hit and 'iceberg' and it feels like your sinking, obviously doubt that would ever happen but it would probably be cool!

[Patrick]

They should make a ride too where you hit and 'iceberg' and it feels like your sinking, obviously doubt that would ever happen but it would probably be cool!

I read last night that on this replica if there was to be a muesum, it would include a room that would let the public feel what the passengers felt when the ship hit the Iceberg.

So it would probley make the room shake, show water on the screen flowing etc

[Callum]

I read last night that on this replica if there was to be a muesum, it would include a room that would let the public feel what the passengers felt when the ship hit the Iceberg.

So it would probley make the room shake, show water on the screen flowing etc

ooh that would be good!

I hope this goes ahead but I doubt if they decide to do (unlikely) it won't be made in time for the 100th anniversary in 2012, I'd imagine it would take ages to actually make it and do the original justice. Also like Sticks said there's the issue of money too. Damn the recession. :sad:

[Tom]

About physically raising the ship- its a bit of a tricky situation. Its a crime etc to do it and there are agreements in place and legislation between UK, US, Canada and France but its an integral part of British history, and it is predicted to collapse into the sea bed within 50 years. The back half of the ship has already collapsed. But if they do raise it, it will obviously have to be bit by bit ...

They really shouldn't have scrapped Olympic, they could have made that into a floating museum and refitted it.

[Patrick]

About physically raising the ship- its a bit of a tricky situation. Its a crime etc to do it and there are agreements in place and legislation between UK, US, Canada and France but its an integral part of British history, and it is predicted to collapse into the sea bed within 50 years. The back half of the ship has already collapsed. But if they do raise it, it will obviously have to be bit by bit ...

They really shouldn't have scrapped Olympic, they could have made that into a floating museum and refitted it.

OMG really? So it will all collapse soon? :(

I didnt know they scrapped the Olympic, what a stupid thing to do.

It would of been great to go on it.

[Tom]

OMG really? So it will all collapse soon? :(

I didnt know they scrapped the Olympic, what a stupid thing to do.

It would of been great to go on it.

It was daft really, especially as Brittanic sank as well so they could have doubled it up as it was the only surviving ship of the three

And yep, it will basically rot because of the water and they think it will be gone by 2028

[Shaun]

I voted no to the replica idea because it looks really tacky.

[Shasown]

Is there a suitable site for a full scale replica of the Titanic? Might it not be better to build a museum incorporating the shipbuilding industry in Belfast with a large section dedicated to the Titanic?

[Patrick]

Is there a suitable site for a full scale replica of the Titanic? Might it not be better to build a museum incorporating the shipbuilding industry in Belfast with a large section dedicated to the Titanic?

I dont think it would be that big, I read they would most likely have the front of the ship coming out of a side of a building if you can imagine that?

Well in the Odyssey Arena (right beside the ship yard) there is a Muesum upstairs in that, it only contains a few things from the Titanic though like a Doll that was on it, a vase from it, a Boot that belonged to a passenger etc

Not much.

[Shasown]

well I think it would be good to commemorate the anniversary in some way, but they will have to pull fingers out to have anything decent ready in time.

[Patrick]

well I think it would be good to commemorate the anniversary in some way, but they will have to pull fingers out to have anything decent ready in time.

Agree, I was expecting somthing by now and they are running out of time.
I will be very dissapointed if they just settle for another stupid tiny peice of art with the Titanic on it, it should be somthing big IMO.

[Shasown]

Agree, I was expecting somthing by now and they are running out of time.
I will be very dissapointed if they just settle for another stupid tiny peice of art with the Titanic on it, it should be somthing big IMO.

Yeah I can understand that. Hopefully large enough be a worthwhile tribute to it and the shipbuilding industry and it may also attract yank tourists to the true home of the Titanic.