99% of Modern Art and Poetry is crap

[Crimson Dynamo]

or would you put the percentage higher?

[Shasown]

or would you put the percentage higher?

Lower lower.











Just remember you dont get anything for a pair, not in this game.

[Crimson Dynamo]

http://www.askart.com/AskART/photos/CNY20070516_3813/49.jpg

http://www.artsjournal.com/culturegrrl/GorkyMoth.jpg

[LemonJam]

If you don't enjoy it then have a nice gander at a boring painting of a bowl of fruit then.

[Crimson Dynamo]

If you don't enjoy it then have a nice gander at a boring painting of a bowl of fruit then.

If you enjoy the bore-fest that is Lost I am sorry but cannot take your suggestion seriously regarding still life alternatives.

[Shasown]

Gorky's Mother by Arshile Gorky innit, painted in the 1930's, an Iconic armenian artist.


If it aint to your taste dont buy it leather.

[\PJ/]

art is what you make it.

[Crimson Dynamo]

art is what you make it.

can you explain what you mean?

a Greek man pissing on a fig roll is not art is it?

[LemonJam]

If you enjoy the bore-fest that is Lost I am sorry but cannot take your suggestion seriously regarding still life alternatives.

Nice that you have to pick at something else completley irrelevant to try put me down. Brilliant.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Gorky's Mother by Arshile Gorky innit, painted in the 1930's, an Iconic armenian artist.


If it aint to your taste dont buy it leather.

I passed on the Emperors new trousers too. sorry you lost out.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Nice that you have to pick at something else completley irrelevant to try put me down. Brilliant.

I try to please.


and Lost is still crap.

[\PJ/]

can you explain what you mean?

a Greek man pissing on a fig roll is not art is it?

that is your opinoin on a piece of art you have made that yourself.

[Shasown]

I passed on the Emperors new trousers too. sorry you lost out.

I didnt say I liked it, thing is art is in the eye of the beholder. If you dont like it dont buy into it. There are good works of art and there are some dross. For example didnt buy into Emin's or a lot off Hirsts stuff. Sometimes its to make an underlying point or statement as opposed to being pleasing to the eye.

[Crimson Dynamo]

I didnt say I liked it, thing is art is in the eye of the beholder. If you dont like it dont buy into it. There are good works of art and there are some dross. For example didnt buy into Emin's or a lot off Hirsts stuff. Sometimes its to make an underlying point or statement as opposed to being pleasing to the eye.

By that definition then anything is art and thus art ceases to be something or anything?

[arista]

or would you put the percentage higher?

Depends who is Doing it.

[Crimson Dynamo]

that is your opinoin on a piece of art you have made that yourself.

The guy needed a leak and i had the biscuit, what can you do. Its art innit?

You owe me £10

[\PJ/]

you owe me time you dick it's like typing to a wall with learning problems.****.

[LemonJam]

roflmao

[setanta]

Hey, Art is subjective and while I find certain new exhibits distasteful I still enjoy viewing them and exploring the emotional and intellectual reactions they elicit from me. Art at it's best should stimulate you in many different ways depending on the piece in question.

Do I think some are crap? Yes. Do I still think there's value in them? Absolutely. Creativity is an essential component of human nature and we learn so much about ourselves from viewing works from our past and present.

[LemonJam]

Hey, Art is subjective and while I find certain new exhibits distasteful I still enjoy viewing them and exploring the emotional and intellectual reactions they elicit from me. Art at it's best should stimulate you in many different ways depending on the piece in question.

Do I think some are crap? Yes. Do I still think there's value in them? Absolutely. Creativity is an essential component of human nature and we learn so much about ourselves from viewing works from our past and present.

http://lesspainbetterlife.com/blog/uploaded/Images/hammer_nail.jpg

PING. We have a winner.

[arista]

Bankys Film
in his own Warren Type Cinema set up in London.
http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Guardian/Pix/pictures/2010/1/21/1264092969215/Still-from-the-Banksy-fil-001.jpg

[Crimson Dynamo]

Hey, Art is subjective and while I find certain new exhibits distasteful I still enjoy viewing them and exploring the emotional and intellectual reactions they elicit from me. Art at it's best should stimulate you in many different ways depending on the piece in question.

Do I think some are crap? Yes. Do I still think there's value in them? Absolutely. Creativity is an essential component of human nature and we learn so much about ourselves from viewing works from our past and present.

is correct

99% crap

1% beautiful

[Crimson Dynamo]

http://lesspainbetterlife.com/blog/uploaded/Images/hammer_nail.jpg

PING. We have a winner.

"hammer and nail"

at the tate Modern

programmes £15

£20 to get in

[setanta]

is correct

99% crap

1% beautiful

I never said that and trust you to reduce my comments to a rallying call for your own sentiments. You're quite boring at times LT.

[arista]

http://www.artofthestate.co.uk/supplied_photos/supplied_banksy_film_large.jpg

[arista]

http://pinewooddesign.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/banksy/Banksy3.jpg

[Crimson Dynamo]

I never said that and trust you to reduce my comments to a rallying call for your own sentiments. You're quite boring at times LT.

luckily less times than you are sanctimonious eh?

[setanta]

luckily less times than you are sanctimonious eh?

Forget it LT. Seriously, you're not worth it.

[Crimson Dynamo]

http://pinewooddesign.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/banksy/Banksy3.jpg

that is not art that is just a fun idea and actually quite difficult to park on

[Crimson Dynamo]

Forget it LT. Seriously, you're not worth it.

see^^

:joker:

[arista]

http://img.metro.co.uk/i/pix/2010/01/21/article-1264076817945-04D85AF40000044D-725225_636x425.jpg

[Crimson Dynamo]

http://img.metro.co.uk/i/pix/2010/01/21/article-1264076817945-04D85AF40000044D-725225_636x425.jpg

at least this is free

[Stu]

that is not art that is just a fun idea and actually quite difficult to park on
It is to me. What is your definition of art?

[setanta]

see^^

:joker:

You're trying to incite me into a reaction here and it's simply not going to work. Continue posting inane little comments if you want but I stupidly enough thought there may have been an opportunity to engage in some interesting discourse here: unfortunately for me I didn't look to see who had opened the thread at the time.

[Shaun]

What do you consider to be good art, then?

[Crimson Dynamo]

You're trying to incite me into a reaction here and it's simply not going to work. Continue posting inane little comments if you want but I stupidly enough thought there may have been an opportunity to engage in some interesting discourse here: unfortunately for me I didn't look to see who had opened the thread at the time.

and still you continue..

it is almost a form of art


and btw "interesting discourse"?

its not my birthday is it?

[Braden]

I find it all attractive to look at.

[Crimson Dynamo]

It is to me. What is your definition of art?

"Art is a collaboration between God an the artist, and the less the artist does the better. "

Andre Gide

[setanta]

and still you continue..

it is almost a form of art


and btw "interesting discourse"?

its not my birthday is it?

Nah, the final curtain would have been drawn long ago on your little act if it were art.

Interesting discourse might happen when you hit 12. Not there yet.

[Stu]

"Art is a collaboration between God an the artist, and the less the artist does the better. "

Andre Gide
That's not your definition, it's a generic quote containing an entirely abstract definition that was made more to sound nice than offer up a technical definition of what art is. But whatever, I'll play you at your own game :

So on what grounds is the picture in question not art then? Was there no collaboration between god and the artist on that one? How do you know this?

[Crimson Dynamo]

Nah, the final curtain would have been drawn long ago on your little act if it were art.

Interesting discourse might happen when you hit 12. Not there yet.

I would concentrate on obsequious posts rather than humour.

[Crimson Dynamo]

That's not your definition, it's a generic quote containing an entirely abstract definition that was made more to sound nice than offer up a technical definition of what art is. But whatever, I'll play you at your own game :

So on what grounds is the picture in question not art then? Was there no collaboration between god and the artist on that one? How do you know this?

if you have a non abstract definitive art definition then fire away...

[setanta]

I would concentrate on obsequious posts rather than humour.

That's what I did do intially but you reverted to type, as is your custom when challenged on any statement that you like to assert on this forum, so why bother anymore?

[Stu]

if you have a non abstract definitive art definition then fire away...
I don't. There is no definition. That's ... the point. Why don't you answer the questions in my post like a good man. What's wrong, reverting to something else again?

Why isn't that picture Arista posted art in your eyes?

[arista]

that is not art that is just a fun idea and actually quite difficult to park on


Wrong this is Art at High Level.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Wrong this is Art at High Level.

yes about 18 feet high

[Stu]

yes about 18 feet high
I would concentrate on obsequious posts rather than humour.

[Crimson Dynamo]

I don't. There is no definition. That's ... the point. Why don't you answer the questions in my post like a good man. What's wrong, reverting to something else again?

Why isn't that picture Arista posted art in your eyes?

The art referred to in post one is art that costs money. Arista's pics are free just like a child's drawing on a fridge or graffiti. and the good man thing is not a good look for one trying to look cool.

[Crimson Dynamo]

I would concentrate on obsequious posts rather than humour.

imitation is the sincerest form of flattery

ta

[Stu]

The art referred to in post one is art that costs money. Arista's pics are free just like a child's drawing on a fridge or graffiti. and the good man thing is not a good look for one trying to look cool.
So art can be defined based on it being free or not?

Your having a laugh, right?

[Crimson Dynamo]

So art can be defined based on it being free or not?

Your having a laugh, right?

if you read the first post rather than jump in midway thinking that you are Tibbs's answer to the Milky Bar Kid:whistle: you will see that I am not defining art i am suggesting that 99% of it (and dont forget poetry) is crap.

[Stu]

if you read the first post rather than jump in midway thinking that you are Tibbs's answer to the Milky Bar Kid:whistle: you will see that I am not defining art i am suggesting that 99% of it (and dont forget poetry) is crap.
Nice try.

You said Arista's picture is not art. I wondered why. You stated eventually, after I had to beat it out of you, that it is not art because it is free. It is this notion which I am currently questioning. This notion which you are again avoiding by trying to alter the subject.

So the painting of the yellow lines on the wall is not art because it is free? What a fascinating concept.

Would a painting you consider to be fine art suddenly loose it's artistic merit if it was devalued and given to you for free?

[Crimson Dynamo]

Nice try.

You said Arista's picture is not art. I wondered why. You stated eventually, after I had to beat it out of you, that it is not art because it is free. It is this notion which I am currently questioning. This notion which you are again avoiding by trying to alter the subject.

So the painting of the yellow lines on the wall is not art because it is free? What a fascinating concept.

Would a painting you consider to be fine art suddenly loose it's artistic merit if it was devalued and given to you for free?

Arista's painting is not art in the sense of this thread it is a cleaver picture on a wall in the street. had the thread been what is art then yes you have a point but it is not.

99% of Modern Art and Poetry is crap
or would you put the percentage higher?

so higher or lower?

[Stu]

Arista's painting is not art in the sense of this thread it is a cleaver picture on a wall in the street. had the thread been what is art then yes you have a point but it is not.

99% of Modern Art and Poetry is crap
or would you put the percentage higher?

so higher or lower?
Art in the sense of this thread? Stop dodging the point. You outright said the picture was not art. You then went on to explain how it is not art because it is free. You have now backed yourself into a corner and only now are you starting to mention how none of this is, in fact, within the context of the thread.

If this thread is not about what is art, then you should not have said the picture is not art in the first place.

[Vicky.]

I think the majority of 'modern art' is crap...I mean, anyone can go out and stick a shoe on top of a plant pot and pass it off as art (which is basically what a LOT of the modern stuff is). But if people want to waste money on it, its up to them.

Anything can be considered art...just depends what your interpretation of 'art' is really...

[Shaun]

Agreed with Vicky...Tracey Emin can eat my ****.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Art in the sense of this thread? Stop dodging the point. You outright said the picture was not art. You then went on to explain how it is not art because it is free. You have now backed yourself into a corner and only now are you starting to mention how none of this is, in fact, within the context of the thread.

If this thread is not about what is art, then you should not have said the picture is not art in the first place.

there is not corner in a thread with the title it has. The art in question is gallery art not street art or graffiti. It needs little introduction or emphasis.

if this was in serious debates with a title such as "what is art" again you have a point but it is not and you are taking it too seriously in order to try and win a pov that has no competitive content?


again

[Crimson Dynamo]

I think the majority of 'modern art' is crap...I mean, anyone can go out and stick a shoe on top of a plant pot and pass it off as art (which is basically what a LOT of the modern stuff is). But if people want to waste money on it, its up to them.

Anything can be considered art...just depends what your interpretation of 'art' is really...

thanks and this is the point. 99% is crap because of what you say.

[Stu]

there is not corner in a thread with the title it has. The art in question is gallery art not street art or graffiti. It needs little introduction or emphasis.

if this was in serious debates with a title such as "what is art" again you have a point but it is not and you are taking it too seriously in order to try and win a pov that has no competitive content?


again
Your the one who said it wasn't art. Not me. Regardless of the subject of the thread, I was targetting that specific comment by itself. A comment you still can't seem to explain to me or back up.

If you didn't want it picked up on by a member and questioned, perhaps it is best that you didn't post it. After all, like your sudden new strict definition on what this thread is dictates - it's not a place to question what art is.

[Shasown]

By that definition then anything is art and thus art ceases to be something or anything?

I have seen a pile of bricks classed as a work of art, a pickled shark, half a cow an unmade bed, obviously to some they see some form of artistic expression in them. As I said its in the eye of the beholder.

I suppose anything can be art, a slight difference to your anything is art.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Your the one who said it wasn't art. Not me. Regardless of the subject of the thread, I was targetting that specific comment by itself. A comment you still can't seem to explain to me or back up.

If you didn't want it picked up on by a member and questioned, perhaps it is best that you didn't post it. After all, like your sudden new strict definition on what this thread is dictates - it's not a place to question what art is.

See my new thread in serious debates..

[BB_Eye]

An exaggeration I think. Here is some great modern art and literature.

http://www.artquotes.net/masters/bacon/bacon_study1953.jpg
http://twebzine.no.sapo.pt/rothko.jpg
http://www.artexpertswebsite.com/pages/artists/artists_a-k/ernst/Ernst_VirginSpankingChristChild.jpg
http://www.studio-international.co.uk/studio-images/picasso_and_american_art/picasso_woman_b.jpg
http://server40136.uk2net.com/~wpower/images/product_images/9780141182001.jpg
http://www.3ammagazine.com/3am/wp-content/uploads/2009/11/frasconigide.jpg
http://www.faber.co.uk/site-media/onix-images/thumbs/9823_jpg_280x450_q85.jpg
http://mookseandgripes.com/reviews/wp-content/uploads/2009/03/the-turn-of-the-screw.jpg

[dirtyvileHARRYuk]

or would you put the percentage higher?

anyone that dose poetry has got to be so sad :joker:

[Shasown]

anyone that dose poetry has got to be so sad :joker:

Nahh only those that do sad poetry.

[GhettoSuperstar]

What a stupid title. You have not viewed or read 100% of all modern art and poetry. Mega fail on your behalf.

[Stu]

anyone that dose poetry has got to be so sad :joker:
Yeah. Especially if you cant spell.

[dirtyvileHARRYuk]

i garee

[James]

Wasn't it John Lennon who said something like 'avant-garde is French for BS'?

There's an awful lot of claptrap about that passes for modern art, though some stuff that is interesting and cleverly done, I'm sure.

[30stone]

I agree most modern art isnt the best but 99% is very high.

Thing that annoyed me was the unmade bed piece... sold for millions

It wasn't art for me... it was an unmade messy bed, i could do that but id never get 5m or whatever for it..

Worst thing was he didnt draw it he took a picture on a camera..

[Shasown]

I agree most modern art isnt the best but 99% is very high.

Thing that annoyed me was the unmade bed piece... sold for millions

It wasn't art for me... it was an unmade messy bed, i could do that but id never get 5m or whatever for it..

Worst thing was he didnt draw it he took a picture on a camera..

This one

http://www.saatchi-gallery.co.uk/artists/artpages/tracey_emin_my_bed.htm

[Crimson Dynamo]

An exaggeration I think. Here is some great modern art and literature.

http://www.artquotes.net/masters/bacon/bacon_study1953.jpg
http://twebzine.no.sapo.pt/rothko.jpg
http://www.artexpertswebsite.com/pages/artists/artists_a-k/ernst/Ernst_VirginSpankingChristChild.jpg
http://www.studio-international.co.uk/studio-images/picasso_and_american_art/picasso_woman_b.jpg
http://server40136.uk2net.com/~wpower/images/product_images/9780141182001.jpg
http://www.3ammagazine.com/3am/wp-content/uploads/2009/11/frasconigide.jpg
http://www.faber.co.uk/site-media/onix-images/thumbs/9823_jpg_280x450_q85.jpg
http://mookseandgripes.com/reviews/wp-content/uploads/2009/03/the-turn-of-the-screw.jpg

for us luddites, can you explain what is great about your "art" examples?

[Enid]

I agree most modern art isnt the best but 99% is very high.

Thing that annoyed me was the unmade bed piece... sold for millions

It wasn't art for me... it was an unmade messy bed, i could do that but id never get 5m or whatever for it..

Worst thing was he didnt draw it he took a picture on a camera..
I thought the artist was a woman.

I went to the Saatchi gallery years ago for my photography class and saw this piece. That place had lots of very strange art, including naked kids with penises and vaginas as mouths.

Then I went to London a few months ago and wanted to give Saatchi another visit. The gallery had moved and now it only contains amateur, and quite frankly, boring art. The top floor was interesting though. Had these men that were sort of squashed and leaning at an angle. It felt like you were looking at them from a different direction. Very surreal.

[BB_Eye]

for us luddites, can you explain what is great about your "art" examples?

You haven't exactly gone into great detail about why you created this thread in the first place.

[Crimson Dynamo]

You haven't exactly gone into great detail about why you created this thread in the first place.

Well if you explain what is great about your examples then that will answer your question

[Stu]

Well if you explain what is great about your examples then that will answer your question
Why don't you explain to us all how you scoured the globe to see one hundred per cent of all modern art and poetry.

[BB_Eye]

Well if you explain what is great about your examples then that will answer your question

Why are Rothko, Breton, Bacon and Picasso not crap? Well apart from the fact that they have given me great enjoyment, I think it's only fair we give more recent works of art the benefit of the doubt and let them stand the test of time. Maybe I would expand on this, but I don't think I am obliged to explain myself when you have remained intentionally vague.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Why don't you explain to us all how you scoured the globe to see one hundred per cent of all modern art and poetry.

I shall do that after you explain about why it is relevant or biologically correct to refer to people on Tibb as abortion survivors

[Stu]

I shall do that after you explain about why it is relevant or biologically correct to refer to people on Tibb as abortion survivors
I was using hyperbole in the context of an insult. Don't be so stupid. It's not meant to be biologically correct.

Your a grown man. Why do you always feel the need to change the topic to something else?

I await your explanation. After all, you hound people for facts and figures all the time. It's only right that you prove to us how you yourself have witnessed 100% of all modern art and poetry.

[Niamh.]

I would have to say that most modern art that I've seen is fairly crap, my kids could do a better job tbh but that's just my opinion, maybe I'm not not deep enough "to get it"

[Crimson Dynamo]

I was using hyperbole in the context of an insult. Don't be so stupid. It's not meant to be biologically correct.

Your a grown man. Why do you always feel the need to change the topic to something else?

I await your explanation. After all, you hound people for facts and figures all the time. It's only right that you prove to us how you yourself have witnessed 100% of all modern art and poetry.

yes but the thread title is 99% and i dont recall me personally saying I have witnessed 100% nor would anyone think such a thing except for an angry pedantic teenager who is desperate to prove himself at every turn to bolster his wounded ego. I am using hyperbole of course...

[Crimson Dynamo]

I would have to say that most modern art that I've seen is fairly crap, my kids could do a better job tbh but that's just my opinion, maybe I'm not not deep enough "to get it"

Its not that you are not deep enough it is just that you are too honest.

[Stu]

yes but the thread title is 99% and i dont recall me personally saying I have witnessed 100% nor would anyone think such a thing except for an angry pedantic teenager who is desperate to prove himself at every turn to bolster his wounded ego. I am using hyperbole of course...
Thank you for proving my point and missing it simultaneously. Of course I don't expect you to have witnessed 100% of modern art and poetry, so your opinion of me for expecting such a thing is null and void. Just remember this in future when you jump on someones back and hound them for proof they can't possibly give you of something. You do it all the time when someone disagrees with your mighty moral, ethical and religious values and what's more you know it.

Lesson over.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Thank you for proving my point and missing it simultaneously. Of course I don't expect you to have witnessed 100% of modern art and poetry, so your opinion of me for expecting such a thing is null and void. Just remember this in future when you jump on someones back and hound them for proof they can't possibly give you of something. You do it all the time when someone disagrees with your mighty moral, ethical and religious values and what's more you know it.

Lesson over.

maybe you could give me an example of "when you jump on someones back and hound them for proof they can't possibly give you of something. "


meanwhile I will go and get the kettle on

[Stu]

maybe you could give me an example of "when you jump on someones back and hound them for proof they can't possibly give you of something. "


meanwhile I will go and get the kettle on
Straight off the top of my head was yesterday when you demanded some sort of proof that parents who force religion on their children do in fact exist on planet earth.

I doubt your kettle is faster than I.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Straight off the top of my head was yesterday when you demanded some sort of proof that parents who force religion on their children do in fact exist on planet earth.

I doubt your kettle is faster than I.

That is not hounding, lol, that is asking someone to backup a post that is prejudicial. The person concerned (oh my, it was you) was making sweeping generalisations that did not have basis in truth and you naturally did not back it up.

have a look at your posts in this thread if you require a "hounding" tutorial. :joker:

[Stu]

That is not hounding, lol, that is asking someone to backup a post that is prejudicial. The person concerned (oh my, it was you) was making sweeping generalisations that did not have basis in truth and you naturally did not back it up.

have a look at your posts in this thread if you require a "hounding" tutorial. :joker:
How was I being prejudicial? How was I making sweeping generalisations? I was talking about parents in the world who breath faith down their childrens necks. These people do exist. They aren't a fable. I have no obligation whatsoever to some overgrown, bible thumping kid to prove these people exist.

As for me hounding you, that was entirely necessary given your daft little insistence on replying to half of everybodys post, ignoring the other half, then diverting back to that half or changing on to something completely different further down the line when things don't go your way. Do you think I am the only person to have noticed this? People have to hound you. You practically have to beat a decent debate out of you.

Not only that, but I was not hounding you for facts and figures you couldn't possibly give me, was I? No. I was hounding you for your opinion on a picture after you commented on said picture, so your comparison - and boy do you love comparing things - is null and void.

[Crimson Dynamo]

How was I being prejudicial? How was I making sweeping generalisations? I was talking about parents in the world who breath faith down their childrens necks. These people do exist. They aren't a fable. I have no obligation whatsoever to some overgrown, bible thumping kid to prove these people exist.

As for me hounding you, that was entirely necessary given your daft little insistence on replying to half of everybodys post, ignoring the other half, then diverting back to that half or changing on to something completely different further down the line when things don't go your way. Do you think I am the only person to have noticed this? People have to hound you. You practically have to beat a decent debate out of you.

Not only that, but I was not hounding you for facts and figures you couldn't possibly give me, was I? No. I was hounding you for your opinion on a picture after you commented on said picture, so your comparison - and boy do you love comparing things - is null and void.

My answer to this post would be, this post!

[Stu]

Nuff' said.

[BB_Eye]

I love mornings on TiBB.

[pinkmichk]

for starters how can art and poetry be in the same bracket? secondly this is much like the music tastes discussion each and every person will see things different etc just cos you dont like it doesnt mean its crap or unappealing to others

[Stu]

Don't you consider poetry a form of art? Art isn't just paintings. Music can be art. Great cinema can be art.

[pinkmichk]

i do but they arent in the same bracket you dont go to gallerys just to read poems they are art forms in their own right but while similar in that aspect they are very very different

[Stu]

True. I guess LT finds 99% of modern poetry crap too?

[Niamh.]

True. I guess LT finds 99% of modern poetry crap too?

a lot of people find modern art fairly crap though (and by art I am referring to paintings, sculptures, elephant poo etc.)

[Crimson Dynamo]

True. I guess LT finds 99% of modern poetry crap too?

all poetry

not just modern

and I would include "songs by Mr Bruce Springstein" in my 99% category too

[Crimson Dynamo]

a lot of people find modern art fairly crap though (and by art I am referring to paintings, sculptures, elephant poo etc.)

wooooah there

elephant poo is the shi t

[Niamh.]

wooooah there

elephant poo is the shi t

Never a truer word spoken!

[Shasown]

wooooah there

elephant poo is the shi t

Its quite good for the garden though.