Thee Stupidest Headline EVER!!!!?

[Loukas]

I saw this on a facebook fan club and i don't know if its real.. if it's real, it is the most stupidest headline i have ever seen!!

http://photos-b.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc3/hs408.snc3/24694_320659463381_320658848381_3521736_3258834_n. jpg

Do you think it's real?!

[Patrick]

Whos Diana?

[Vicky.]

PMSL :laugh2:

Thats ridiculous :D

[Princess]

That is real,I've seen it before. Beyond stupid!

[Loukas]

Whos Diana?

http://i8.tinypic.com/14wxeg5.jpg

Diana..Princess Of Wales..?

[Deirdre]

Whos Diana?

Really?!

[Raph]

ahahah that's so funny! :laugh2:

[Smithy]

Whos Diana?

-Hoping thats a Joke-

lmao at that being a real article though

[James]

The phone numbers are fake.

[Tom]

The phone numbers are fake.

Someones tried voting :whistle:

[King Gizzard]

The phone numbers are fake.

i was just about to say


lol!!!

''000 000''

you dont have to be clever to figure that out..

[Patrick]

Oh that old women Diana who like was a queen in England or somthing?

How do you expect me to know who she is?
The only Diana I know is Diana Vickers.

[Smithy]

Oh that old women Diana who like was a queen in England or somthing?

How do you expect me to know who she is?
The only Diana I know is Diana Vickers.

Its not funny when people pretend to be that stupid

:bored:

[Harry!]

Do not trust Patrick. Only yesterday he said it would be funny if the Queen died. Pat you REALLY need to do some research before you open your mouth. If you dont know then DONT POST.

[Tom4784]

Rofl I saw it before, very funny.

I think Patrick's playing you all up.

[Lewis.]

lmao. And yeah, I hope Patrick is just joking :S I know a lot of people think it was an inside job because of her marraige to a muslim and the worry or a shariah law being introduced.

[King Gizzard]

Paddy vs Harry would be a great fight

[King Gizzard]

He would only of been quite young when she died so what do you expect? and hes not even from this country lol

[Harry!]

He would only of been quite young when she died so what do you expect? and hes not even from this country lol

The first link when you search the world 'Diana' in google is her wiki page. Just laziness not reserching.

[King Gizzard]

Why would he need to research her though?

Just saying.

[MeMyselfAndI]

Dianas the one that died in a car crash or was it in a boat?

[Ninastar]

He would only of been quite young when she died so what do you expect? and hes not even from this country lol

he wont even have been born i dont think.

[Tom]

Oh that old women Diana who like was a queen in England or somthing?

How do you expect me to know who she is?
The only Diana I know is Diana Vickers.

She was called Diana Ross, she was the Queens sister and died in a lift age 42

[Harry!]

Why would he need to research her though?

Just saying.

Cos he didnt know who she was...And she is a well known figure...

[Stu]

Dianas the one that died in a car crash or was it in a boat?
Alec Trevelyan took her out.

[King Gizzard]

Cos he didnt know who she was...And she is a well known figure...

doesnt mean he'd of ever of needed to research her does it

[Harry!]

doesnt mean he'd of ever of needed to research her does it

If you dont know something. Look it up. Maybe in the real world it is harder to but on the interent no excuses.

[Tom]

He would only of been quite young when she died so what do you expect? and hes not even from this country lol

Shes a historical figure and her story is STILL in the news 13 years on. You have to have lived under a rock if you've got no idea who she is

[Patrick]

Its not funny when people pretend to be that stupid

:bored:

Im not pretending, Im not stupid either.


Do not trust Patrick. Only yesterday he said it would be funny if the Queen died. Pat you REALLY need to do some research before you open your mouth. If you dont know then DONT POST.

Back to this again are we Harry?
Im not from England, I have a diffrent view on the queen so thats why I said what I did, I do alot of research on most things I even get made fun of in school because of the ammount of things I search on google, but I cba searching Diana in google when Im not that bothered.

Rofl I saw it before, very funny.

I think Patrick's playing you all up.

Whats playing up mean? Im not playing, I was asking a question.


He would only of been quite young when she died so what do you expect? and hes not even from this country lol

Yeah Exactally.


he wont even have been born i dont think.

What year did she die?

She was called Diana Ross, she was the Queens sister and died in a lift age 42

Oh right, how did she die in a lift? Was she murdered?

[LewisMarvel]

Oh that old women Diana who like was a queen in England or somthing?

How do you expect me to know who she is?
The only Diana I know is Diana Vickers.

Are you joking?

[King Gizzard]

If you dont know something. Look it up. Maybe in the real world it is harder to but on the interent no excuses.


that isnt the point

WHY would he need to know? of course shes historical but yeah, it doesnt have much relevance to him..he'd need a reason to look it up

madness!

[Stu]

His fourteen and he lives in Ireland. The guy is hardly ****ing expected to know Di's menstrual cycle. Not that she has one now coz' shes dead and stuff.

[Harry!]

Back to this again are we Harry?
Im not from England, I have a diffrent view on the queen so thats why I said what I did, I do alot of research on most things I even get made fun of in school because of the ammount of things I search on google, but I cba searching Diana in google when Im not that bothered.


Read this please.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diana,_Princess_of_Wales

Even a 5 year old could find this link.

Death isnt funny Pat.

A leopard never changes his spots.

Diana Ross is a singer btw.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diana_Ross

[Harry!]

that isnt the point

WHY would he need to know? of course shes historical but yeah, it doesnt have much relevance to him..he'd need a reason to look it up

madness!

Because the newspaper story was about Diana...

[Stu]

Read this please.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diana,_Princess_of_Wales

Even a 5 year old could find this link.

Death isnt funny Pat.

A leopard never changes his spots.

Diana Ross is a singer btw.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diana_Ross
I'm sure he is well capable of looking up Princess Diana in Google, he just could not have been arsed. Do you not see the distinction?

[Patrick]

Are you joking?

Bloody hell, NO.

Why would I joke about it?

Its not that big a deal IMO that I didnt know who she was.

[MeMyselfAndI]

i thought she died in a car accident

[LewisMarvel]

Bloody hell, NO.

Why would I joke about it?

Its not that big a deal IMO that I didnt know who she was.

i know it's not that much of a big deal but i was surprised to find out that you didn't know who princess diana was

[Jessica.]

i thought she died in a car accident

:laugh2: roflcopter

[Harry!]

I'm sure he is well capable of looking up Princess Diana in Google, he just could not have been arsed. Do you not see the distinction?

But still if you are unsure on something you at least find out a bit about it.

[Patrick]

:laugh2: roflcopter

So we went from a Boat to a Lift to a Car to a Rolfcopter.

What a long death.

[Jessica.]

So we went from a Boat to a Lift to a Car to a Rolfcopter.

What a long death.

roflcopter = rolling on the floor laughing, can't operate 'til eyes refocus

[Shasown]

Back to this again are we Harry?
Im not from England, I have a diffrent view on the queen so thats why I said what I did, I do alot of research on most things I even get made fun of in school because of the ammount of things I search on google, but I cba searching Diana in google when Im not that bothered.



Says you are from Belfast on your profile. Belfast is still in Northern Ireland.

Northern ireland is still part of the UK

Elizabeth II is Queen of the United Kingdom, therefore she is still YOUR Queen regardless of what you think of the monarchy.

[Patrick]

roflcopter = rolling on the floor laughing, can't operate 'til eyes refocus

I knew rofl, I remember the first time this girl said that to me on Bebo I was like 'Who the **** is ralf?' :joker:

Didnt know that last part though, sounds abit robotic.

[Stu]

But still if you are unsure on something you at least find out a bit about it.
Not if you don't particularly care. I'm unsure of how many records Diana Ross has sold but I don't really give a **** so I'm not about to look it up.

And yes, Di did die in a car crash. Alec Trevelyan drove his rolfcopter into the tunnel and caused the collision.

[Patrick]

Says you are from Belfast on your profile. Belfast is still in Northern Ireland.

Northern ireland is still part of the UK

Elizabeth II is Queen of the United Kingdom, therefore she is still YOUR Queen regardless of what you think of the monarchy.

Oh ****.

[Stu]

Says you are from Belfast on your profile. Belfast is still in Northern Ireland.

Northern ireland is still part of the UK

Elizabeth II is Queen of the United Kingdom, therefore she is still YOUR Queen regardless of what you think of the monarchy.
My arse. Only if he considers her to be.

[Patrick]

Harry im going to go look up what year Diana died.

;)

[Patrick]

Ohh 1997.

[Shasown]

Oh ****.

A nice mature response to a valid point, well done Paddy.

[Stu]

That day she died sucked. Sky cancelled The Simpsons all evening and just flashed images of her up on screen.

[Harry!]

Ohh 1997.

You was 2 then.

[Stu]

You was 2 then.
Mathematic prodigy in da haus.

[Patrick]

That day she died sucked. Sky cancelled The Simpsons all evening and just flashed images of her up on screen.

:joker::joker:

[Jack_]

Oh right, how did she die in a lift? Was she murdered?

Read this please.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diana,_Princess_of_Wales

Even a 5 year old could find this link.

Death isnt funny Pat.

A leopard never changes his spots.

Diana Ross is a singer btw.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diana_Ross

Way to ruin the joke Harry :nono:

[Shasown]

My arse. Only if he considers her to be.

No FACT, she is Queen of the country that he resides in. He may not like the fact, but it is indisputable.

[Stu]

No FACT, she is Queen of the country that he resides in. He may not like the fact, but it is indisputable.
Not really. It's a governmental fact, sure, an invisible fact, but you cant litteraly say she is his queen. She's just this oldie living far away from him in a house worth a lot more money. 'Queen' is just a word. A title. If no connection exists between the title and Paddy then she means **** all to him, really.

[Harry!]

Way to ruin the joke Harry :nono:

:shrug:

[Shasown]

Not really. It's a governmental fact, sure, an invisible fact, but you cant litteraly say she is his queen. Shes just this oldie living far away from him in a house worth a lot more money.

While she is an oldie etc is true, by nature of the fact she is Queen of the country he resides in she is still his queen. He may not like that fact, may disagree with the idea of the monarchy, may even disagree that Northern Ireland should still part of the UK. Thats immaterial, she is still his queen whether he wants her to be or not.

[Alf]

roflcopter = rolling on the floor laughing, can't operate 'til eyes refocus
how do you roll on the floor laughing and type at the same time?
i've tried it, but cant do it, how do you do it?

[Stu]

While she is an oldie etc is true, by nature of the fact she is Queen of the country he resides in she is still his queen. He may not like that fact, may disagree with the idea of the monarchy, may even disagree that Northern Ireland should still part of the UK. Thats immaterial, she is still his queen whether he wants her to be or not.
I have to disagree. Again, on paper she is the Queen, but if she means nothing to you, she's sweet **** all, really. And the term his Queen is a bit patronizing towards him in that light, suggesting the Queen's domination over her loyal subjects, of which he does not count himself a member.

Seriously, just try that line in a republican pub in the north and see would they agree with you. What's written on paper means nothing compared to what's in your heart. In my mind if you live in NI but consider yourself Irish, then you are Irish.

His Queen is useless without any true connection. It's just a byte on a computer. Ink on paper. Files in a building. To that extent yeah, it's a fact.

[Jack_]

:shrug:

He was beginning to believe that she actually died in a lift :joker:

[Patrick]

Not really. It's a governmental fact, sure, an invisible fact, but you cant litteraly say she is his queen. She's just this oldie living far away from him in a house worth a lot more money. 'Queen' is just a word. A title. If no connection exists between the title and Paddy then she means **** all to him, really.


This.

[Patrick]

I have to disagree. Again, on paper she is the Queen, but if she means nothing to you, she's sweet **** all, really. And the term his Queen is a bit patronizing towards him in that light, suggesting the Queen's domination over her loyal subjects, of which he does not count himself a member.

Seriously, just try that line in a republican pub in the north and see would they agree with you. What's written on paper means nothing compared to what's in your heart. In my mind if you live in NI but consider yourself Irish, then you are Irish.

Yeah, Thats really well said.

[Patrick]

He was beginning to believe that she actually died in a lift :joker:

I was actually thinking when I read the post earlier about that, all the ways you could possibly die in a lift.

I came up with 3 so far,

A Guy takes out a knife and .. you know.

Its a glass lift, and you decide to lie against the wall and then.. there goes the window.

Or you get caught in the doors on the way out or in.

[Stephanie]

pmsl. seriously.

[setanta]

While she is an oldie etc is true, by nature of the fact she is Queen of the country he resides in she is still his queen. He may not like that fact, may disagree with the idea of the monarchy, may even disagree that Northern Ireland should still part of the UK. Thats immaterial, she is still his queen whether he wants her to be or not.

Rubbish, and there's literally thousands upon thousands of people in Northern Ireland who would disagree with you on this.

[Jack_]

I was actually thinking when I read the post earlier about that, all the ways you could possibly die in a lift.

I came up with 3 so far,

A Guy takes out a knife and .. you know.

Its a glass lift, and you decide to lie against the wall and then.. there goes the window.

Or you get caught in the doors on the way out or in.

True :joker:

[Shasown]

I was actually thinking when I read the post earlier about that, all the ways you could possibly die in a lift.

I came up with 3 so far,

A Guy takes out a knife and .. you know.

Its a glass lift, and you decide to lie against the wall and then.. there goes the window.

Or you get caught in the doors on the way out or in.

Cable and safety mechanism breaks and lift drops down shaft from high up

[Shasown]

Rubbish, and there's literally thousands upon thousands of people in Northern Ireland who would disagree with you on this.

While its probably the wrong forum to get into this one, there also thousands upon thousands of people in Northern Ireland and the rest of the United Kingdom who would agree with me. Regardless of where his loyalties (no pun intended) lies

[Patrick]

Just out of curiosity Shasown, where you that member who had a Great Britain flag as his banner and a picture of the queen and stuff on his avatar or was that another member?

I rarely saw his posts and havent seen them in a while, but you seem to have no Avi or Sig.

[Shasown]

Just out of curiosity Shasown, where you that member who had a Great Britain flag as his banner and a picture of the queen and stuff on his avatar or was that another member?

I rarely saw his posts and havent seen them in a while, but you seem to have no Avi or Sig.

Nope not me, I had a picture of old JC with the words "he may love you but I think you are a see you next thursday" as an avatar but no piccy as signature.

[Harry!]

Just out of curiosity Shasown, where you that member who had a Great Britain flag as his banner and a picture of the queen and stuff on his avatar or was that another member?

I rarely saw his posts and havent seen them in a while, but you seem to have no Avi or Sig.

Might be this member you are talking about

http://www.thisisbigbrother.com/forums/member.php?u=11633

There is another but I look for him in a mo.

[Stu]

Just out of curiosity Shasown, where you that member who had a Great Britain flag as his banner and a picture of the queen and stuff on his avatar or was that another member?

I rarely saw his posts and havent seen them in a while, but you seem to have no Avi or Sig.
No that's Spitfire. He used to be a regular years ago. Bit over the top with the patriotism alright.

Nothing wrong with being proud of your country but over the top patriotism baffles me. Like people who genuinly think their country is the best in the world coz' that's where they were born. People who actually let their patriotism govern every aspect of their life and hobbies.

Nationalism is a scourge. It is the measles of humanity.

[setanta]

While its probably the wrong forum to get into this one, there also thousands upon thousands of people in Northern Ireland and the rest of the United Kingdom who would agree with me. Regardless of where his loyalties (no pun intended) lies

So why do you think the Good Friday Agreement eliminated the requirement of any member of parliment to take any Oath of Allegiance? Give it a rest Shasown.

[Shasown]

So why do you think the Good Friday Agreement eliminated the requirement of any member of parliment to take any Oath of Allegiance? Give it a rest Shasown.

Its called compromise, you know give and take, it ensured that nationalists elected to the assembly would actually turn up and take part. there were lots of other minor requirements as well, you know really little things like the cessation of violence.

[setanta]

Its called compromise, you know give and take, it ensured that nationalists elected to the assembly would actually turn up and take part. there were lots of other minor requirements as well, you know really little things like the cessation of violence.

Yes, a cessation on both fronts. Looks like the Oath wasn't too difficult a thing for Unionist Northern Irish people to let go of either. Again, means nadda to many up there.

[Shasown]

Yes, a cessation on both fronts. Looks like the Oath wasn't too difficult a thing for Unionist Northern Irish people to let go of either. Again, means nadda to many up there.

Yeah right as soon as it came up as a point of contention the Ulster Unionists said "no problem thats alright". I seem to remember Unionists denouncing proposals to remove the Oath of Allegiance. In the end common sense and political pressure won out.

Maybe it was considered to be a relatively small price to pay on the path for peace.

[setanta]

Yeah right as soon as it came up as a point of contention the Ulster Unionists said "no problem thats alright". I seem to remember Unionists denouncing proposals to remove the Oath of Allegiance. In the end common sense and political pressure won out.

Maybe it was considered to be a relatively small price to pay on the path for peace.

Exactly. It was totally unnecessary to the running of the country. So yeah, Patrick has every right to go meh to anything regarding the Queen.

[BGT-FAN!]

Its obviously not a real article, look at the bottom.
Funny though

[Shasown]

Exactly. It was totally unnecessary to the running of the country. So yeah, Patrick has every right to go meh to anything regarding the Queen.

I am not saying he doesnt have that right. Just as anyone can say they dont believe in the monarchy, the political system, religion or anything else. I simply pointed out the fact that she is the Queen of the UK not just England. As he is a citizen of the UK whether he wants to be or not. She is technically his queen. Makes no matter whether he wants her to be or not.

[ILoveTRW]

:bawling:
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[setanta]

I am not saying he doesnt have that right. Just as anyone can say they dont believe in the monarchy, the political system, religion or anything else. I simply pointed out the fact that she is the Queen of the UK not just England. As he is a citizen of the UK whether he wants to be or not. She is technically his queen. Makes no matter whether he wants her to be or not.

It's his individual right to never have to swear allegiance to her during his lifetime. So nah, she has no say over him.

[Iceman]

@Harry - He doesnt need to know who she is....he doesnt need to do research and check. just chill the **** out a bit sometimes and stop taking everything so serious

[Harry!]

@Harry - He doesnt need to know who she is....he doesnt need to do research and check. just chill the **** out a bit sometimes and stop taking everything so serious

I am a serious person that is part of my personality.

[Iceman]

I am a serious person that is part of my personality.

Yeah but you dont have to try and make everyone be serious on everything.

[Harry!]

Yeah but you dont have to try and make everyone be serious on everything.

But him saying 'it will be funny when the queen dies' it not funny.

[Iceman]

But him saying 'it will be funny when the queen dies' it not funny.

to you, to other people it might be...she's your queen not everyones

[Harry!]

to you, to other people it might be...she's your queen not everyones

I dont find joking about death funny. Never mind who is the 'person' who will die in the statement.

[Shasown]

It's his individual right to never have to swear allegiance to her during his lifetime. So nah, she has no say over him.

I never said he had to swear allegiance to her, no one does. Except currently he lives in a country that is part of her realm. The laws on statute he lives by are in her name. The money he uses bears her picture. (Except where allowed under the Bankers (Northern Ireland) Act 1928). So no she has no say any of his life.

[Iceman]

I dont find joking about death funny. Never mind who is the 'person' who will die in the statement.

Yes YOU dont other people probably will.....hence all those jokes that we posted a few weeks back.....like i was saying lighten up a bit.....

[Patrick]

Except currently he lives in a country that is part of her realm. The laws on statute he lives by are in her name. The money he uses bears her picture. (Except where allowed under the Bankers (Northern Ireland) Act 1928). So no she has no say any of his life.

Which Is one of the reasons why I hate her.

[setanta]

Except currently he lives in a country that is part of her realm. The laws on statute he lives by are in her name. The money he uses bears her picture. (Except where allowed under the Bankers (Northern Ireland) Act 1928). So no she has no say any of his life.

You see, this really reflects more on how you feel about Northern Ireland than Northern Ireland itself, you know? It's interesting.

[Harry!]

Yes YOU dont other people probably will.....hence all those jokes that we posted a few weeks back.....like i was saying lighten up a bit.....

:bored:

''lighten up a bit''

I will act how I feel. I am always honest about my feelings on here and I dont feel that you should fake them for anyone. There might be a few things you might not like which I might find funny (Not going to have a list game).

[Iceman]

:bored:

''lighten up a bit''

I will act how I feel. I am always honest about my feelings on here and I dont feel that you should fake them for anyone. There might be a few things you might not like which I might find funny (Not going to have a list game).

Yeah so stop trying to tell him to change then, thats the way he posts, leave him be. He's just being honest.

[Shasown]

You see, this really reflects more on how you feel about Northern Ireland than Northern Ireland itself, you know? It's interesting.

It doesnt reflect on how I feel about N Ireland at all. Its merely a comment on reality not loyalties. One day hopefully the problem will be resolved to everyones satisfaction and everyone will get along nicely.

[Harry!]

Yeah so stop trying to tell him to change then, thats the way he posts, leave him be. He's just being honest.

But there are somethings I dont like what he says. We wont be best pals on here and I was only doing it for the best (for both).

[Iceman]

But there are somethings I dont like what he says. We wont be best pals on here and I was only doing it for the best (for both).

So its not for you to say its right or wrong what he says.....double standards......:nono:

[setanta]

It doesnt reflect on how I feel about N Ireland at all. Its merely a comment on reality not loyalties. One day hopefully the problem will be resolved to everyones satisfaction and everyone will get along nicely.

It does of course. It's generates and propagates that superiority complex that the people of Ireland have always felt that the British exude from time to time, especially when you were so quick to defend the policies that the UK introduced during the Troubles. Devolution has returned to Northern Ireland and it should be allowed to function on it's own without having to bow before the Queen.... that's Patrick's right.

[Harry!]

So its not for you to say its right or wrong what he says.....double standards......:nono:

I guess my pots and kettles have come out from the kitchen. I leave you. Just Patrick gets on my nerves sometimes and I expect that what he feels about me too sometimes. Best turn that kettle off now.

[Iceman]

I guess my pots and kettles have come out from the kitchen. I leave you. Just Patrick gets on my nerves sometimes and I expect that what he feels about me too sometimes. Best turn that kettle off now.

:xyxwave:

[Shaun]

My god this thread is one car crash after another.

Perhaps not the right choice of words, but whatever.

I don't care if it's relevant or whatever - but you would have to be incredibly ignorant of current affairs not to know who Princess Diana was or how she died - it's constantly talked about (thank you, Daily Express <_<), it was all over the news for years...and don't use the young bull**** - I was 7 and at Butlins when she died, I was hardly going to stop jumping in the ballpool and cut myself to Candle in the Wind.

[Stu]

And Patrick was 2 when she died. I only started gaining a knowledge of current affairs when I was in my young teens myself - like he is now.

[Shasown]

It does of course. It's generates and propagates that superiority complex that the people of Ireland have always felt that the British exude from time to time, especially when you were so quick to defend the policies that the UK introduced during the Troubles. Devolution has returned to Northern Ireland and it should be allowed to function on it's own without having to bow before the Queen.... that's Patrick's right.

No far from it, it highlights your own prejudices and preconceived notions is all. You dont really know anything about me or my beliefs. Quick to defend which policies?

[setanta]

No far from it, it highlights your own prejudices and preconceived notions is all. You dont really know anything about me or my beliefs. Quick to defend which policies?

Regarding the British troops sent in to pacify the situation. There's other decisions that they made that were face palms of the highest order. I have no preconceived notions.... I've just seen how the British like to regard the Northern Irish and Irish on many occassions.

[James]

Its obviously not a real article, look at the bottom.
Funny though

Yeah, it's a satire on papers like Daily Express etc. that always printing conspiracies about Diana. The Morocco bit is probably a reference to Madeleine McCann sightings stories.

[Shasown]

Regarding the British troops sent in to pacify the situation. There's other decisions that they made that were face palms of the highest order. I have no preconceived notions.... I've just seen how the British like to regard the Northern Irish and Irish on many occassions.

Yes it was knee jerk reactions, there were other options that could have been undertaken, however the decisions taken were believed to be the best option at the time. Same as the decision to send in Paras in a peacekeeping role because their war role was of a similar nature. We all know what a cock up that was and the ensuing tragedy that occured because of it.

Its easy to look back with hindsight and see where things went wrong, where incorrect decisions were made. However at the time the decisions made were made with the the intent of remedying the situation not escalating it.

[setanta]

Yes it was knee jerk reactions, there were other options that could have been undertaken, however the decisions taken were believed to be the best option at the time. Same as the decision to send in Paras in a peacekeeping role because their war role was of a similar nature. We all know what a cock up that was and the ensuing tragedy that occured because of it.

Its easy to look back with hindsight and see where things went wrong, where incorrect decisions were made. However at the time the decisions made were made with the the intent of remedying the situation not escalating it.

Nah, not with you on this at all. Can't blame it all on the soldiers that they sent.

[Beastie]

Why is James;s username in RED?

[Niamh.]

Why is James;s username in RED?

cos he's admin and the mods names are green