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arista
09-03-2010, 05:31 PM
This Pharmacist Worker must be Sacked
right away.
Pharmacist refuses to give mother, 38,
contraceptive pills for period pain 'because of her religion'
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2010/03/09/article-1256602-08A5C8F9000005DC-984_233x558.jpg
Shocked: Janine Deeley, pictured at her Sheffield home,
thought the pharmacist
must be joking when she refused to serve her
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1256602/Pharmacist-refuses-mother-38-contraceptive-pills-religion.html#ixzz0hhnkRvmQ
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2010/03/09/article-1256602-08A5C5FC000005DC-438_468x286.jpg
WOMBAI
09-03-2010, 06:01 PM
This Pharmacist Worker must be Sacked
right away.
Pharmacist refuses to give mother, 38,
contraceptive pills for period pain 'because of her religion'
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2010/03/09/article-1256602-08A5C8F9000005DC-984_233x558.jpg
Shocked: Janine Deeley, pictured at her Sheffield home,
thought the pharmacist
must be joking when she refused to serve her
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1256602/Pharmacist-refuses-mother-38-contraceptive-pills-religion.html#ixzz0hhnkRvmQ
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2010/03/09/article-1256602-08A5C5FC000005DC-438_468x286.jpg
That is unbelievable! I could perhaps understand if she didn't want to participate in an abortion or something - but to refuse to dispense the contraceptive pill is ridiculous. Who does she think she is? Her job entails a certain degree of responsibility - she can't just pick and choose what medications to dispense - otherwise why be a pharmacist!
Part of many jobs - is sometimes doing what you don't want to do - religious objections shouldn't be a excuse!
Tom4784
09-03-2010, 06:02 PM
I hope the right actions are taken against the pharmacist. It's completely ridiculous.
:shocked::shocked::shocked:
Callum
09-03-2010, 06:09 PM
Disgusting, hope she gets sacked for this.
arista
09-03-2010, 06:09 PM
That is unbelievable! I could perhaps understand if she didn't want to participate in an abortion or something - but to refuse to dispense the contraceptive pill is ridiculous. Who does she think she is? Her job entails a certain degree of responsibility - she can't just pick and choose what medications to dispense - otherwise why be a pharmacist!
Part of many jobs - is sometimes doing what you don't want to do - religious objections shouldn't be a excuse!
Yes
It is Illegal in my eyes.
This Lady wanted it for Pain in any case.
It is no wonder more people now buy online.
Shasown
09-03-2010, 06:10 PM
I would like to know what religion prevents the dispensing of legally prescribed drugs.
Ninastar
09-03-2010, 06:11 PM
I Told her I was sorry!!!
Joke joke of course.
Thats awful tbh.
arista
09-03-2010, 06:11 PM
I would like to know what religion prevents the dispensing of legally prescribed drugs.
Catholic Gits
For a start.
WOMBAI
09-03-2010, 06:15 PM
Yes
It is Illegal in my eyes.
This Lady wanted it for Pain in any case.
It is no wonder more people now buy online.
Doesn't matter whether she wanted it for pain or not - she was fully entitled to use it and be dispensed the contraceptive pill for the purpose for which it is intended!
WOMBAI
09-03-2010, 06:16 PM
Catholic Gits
For a start.
Yes Catholics or, I would guess, Muslims - although I may be wrong about that!
InOne
09-03-2010, 06:18 PM
I think the woman who didn't serve her must have other mental issues tbh. Just does not add up
arista
09-03-2010, 06:20 PM
Doesn't matter whether she wanted it for pain or not - she was fully entitled to use it and be dispensed the contraceptive pill for the purpose for which it is intended!
Yes I Agree.
The only sensible action
is that Stupid Worker Sacked.
And this Lady helped
Shasown
09-03-2010, 06:21 PM
Catholic Gits
For a start.
Nope I dont know of any papal bull(proclamation from the pope) saying catholic pharmacists cannot dispense some types of drugs. contraceptive or otherwise.
In fact the only decrees from the Vatican say Catholics should not use unnatural contraceptive methods. This lady was using a drug, that happens to be used for birth control to help ease her endometriosus.
Selling, dispensing or otherwise handling them of contraceptives wasnt ever taught to be against the church. otherwise the barber we used to use when I was a kid would have been well in the clag.in fact I remeber him saying just after he had finished on the parish priests hair "Sure you will not be wanting anything for the weekend this time round Father?"
arista
09-03-2010, 06:22 PM
I think the woman who didn't serve her must have other mental issues tbh. Just does not add up
You What,
You need to get out More.
These Bible Freaks are in many places.
That Worker was using the Bible to stop that Lady
getting what she needed.
Shasown
09-03-2010, 06:23 PM
Yes Catholics or, I would guess, Muslims - although I may be wrong about that!
Depends on the school of Islam they follow, in most contraception is allowed for valid reasons, one of them being health. The only agreed case where contraception should not be used is if the decision is delay children is based on finances, because the Muslims believe god will provide.
WOMBAI
09-03-2010, 06:26 PM
Depends on the school of Islam they follow, in most contraception is allowed for valid reasons, one of them being health. The only agreed case where contraception should not be used is if the decision is delay children is based on finances, because the Muslims believe god will provide.
I presume the woman has no choice in such matters - and can't choose when she is ready to have a baby! She probably can't choose whether she wants sex or not - if married!
InOne
09-03-2010, 06:26 PM
You What,
You need to get out More.
These Bible Freaks are in many places.
That Worker was using the Bible to stop that Lady
getting what she needed.
Yes, but she is an extreme example.
Shasown
09-03-2010, 06:29 PM
Would love to be a fly on the wall watching them debate this garbage if a complaint is actually made:
The spokesman said:'While the Code of Ethics and Standards does not require a pharmacist to provide a service that is contrary to their religious or moral beliefs.
Any attempt by a pharmacist to impose their beliefs on a member of the public seeking their professional guidance, or a failure to have systems in place to advise of alternative sources for the service required, would be of great concern to the RPSGB and could form the basis of a complaint of professional misconduct.'
Is telling her to come back when someone else is on, sufficient?
Shasown
09-03-2010, 06:30 PM
I presume the woman has no choice in such matters - and can't choose when she is ready to have a baby! She probably can't choose whether she wants sex or not - if married!
Again depends on the school in some cases a man is to honour a wifes wishes but a wife is to obey her husband etc...
arista
09-03-2010, 06:31 PM
Yes, but she is an extreme example.
OK
but it is not a Mental Issue.
It's Bible Freaks
A pharmaceuticals company has launched an investigation after a woman was refused the contraceptive pill because it was against the pharmacist's religion to give it to her.
Janine Deeley was turned away by the female chemist at Lloyds pharmacy in Duke Street, Sheffield, when she went to pick up her routine prescription of the medication.
The mother-of-two was taken into a private room by the employee and told she would not be given the tablets on religious grounds but she could come back the next day when a different pharmacist was working and pick them up.
Ms Deeley, 38, of Wybourn, said she was furious she was not allowed her prescription, especially because she used it to treat endometriosis and not as a method of birth control.
She told the Sheffield Star: "I shouldn't have to explain myself to her.
"I was so angry I didn't really know what to do."
Ms Deeley also said she was worried teenagers like her two daughters, Carlie, 18, and 14-year-old Lauren, might not be able to protect against pregnancy if faced with such issues.
She added: "There's a lot of things in society you might not like or agree with, but you can't do anything about them."
A spokeswoman for Lloyds pharmacy said she was not aware which religion the pharmacist belonged to and an investigation into Ms Deeley's complaint had been launched.
She said: "Lloyds pharmacy is very sorry that Ms Deeley was refused supply of her prescribed contraceptive pill at our Duke Street pharmacy. We have launched an investigation into the incident and been in contact with her to apologise for any distress and inconvenience caused."
http://www.google.com/hostednews/ukpress/article/ALeqM5jpLlztzZfMaqPPiLgCyyW0N043IA
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What a load of bull! This pharmacist should be sacked. Never mix work and religion, especially when it's concerning another person's health.
It's my belief that my religion entitles me to take a day off whenever I want.
There. Will you respect my beliefs?
GypsyGoth
09-03-2010, 08:48 PM
What a load of bull! This pharmacist should be sacked. Never mix work and religion, especially when it's concerning another person's health.
I agree they should be sacked.
Claymores
09-03-2010, 10:38 PM
It's my belief that my religion entitles me to take a day off whenever I want.
There. Will you respect my beliefs?
Can I join this sect? - where is sign-up?
Sticks
10-03-2010, 06:50 AM
This incident is similar to one I heard of several years ago, before the end of the apartheid regime in South Africa where there was segregation and white minority rule. During that time there were calls for sanctions against South Africa, but Mrs Thatcher refused point blank to carry them out.
In this case, in the uk a supermarket checkout operator refused point blank to sell to a customer a grapefruit because it was from South Africa and she deeply believed that there should be a boycott of all South African goods.
Moving on to today and religion, I understand that in the medical profession there is a get out clause so professionals can opt out of abortion proceses on grounds of concience
I am wondering if this pharmacist believed they had the same rights here
Incidentally the story in full here (http://www.thestar.co.uk/news/Chemist-refuses-to-issue-Pill.6134882.jp)
Shasown
10-03-2010, 08:18 AM
This incident is similar to one I heard of several years ago, before the end of the apartheid regime in South Africa where there was segregation and white minority rule. During that time there were calls for sanctions against South Africa, but Mrs Thatcher refused point blank to carry them out.
In this case, in the uk a supermarket checkout operator refused point blank to sell to a customer a grapefruit because it was from South Africa and she deeply believed that there should be a boycott of all South African goods.
Moving on to today and religion, I understand that in the medical profession there is a get out clause so professionals can opt out of abortion proceses on grounds of concience
I am wondering if this pharmacist believed they had the same rights here
Incidentally the story in full here (http://www.thestar.co.uk/news/Chemist-refuses-to-issue-Pill.6134882.jp)
The pharmacist does have similar rights.
The Royal Pharmaceutical Society of Great Britain (RPSGB) said the pharmacist was acting within her rights.
The spokesman said:'While the Code of Ethics and Standards does not require a pharmacist to provide a service that is contrary to their religious or moral beliefs, any attempt by a pharmacist to impose their beliefs on a member of the public seeking their professional guidance, or a failure to have systems in place to advise of alternative sources for the service required, would be of great concern to the RPSGB and could form the basis of a complaint of professional misconduct
The only considerations are when denying to serve the woman, did the pharmacist give sufficient information about other times or places where the women could be served and have her prescription filled? Was the pharmacist imposing her religious belief on the woman?
Crimson Dynamo
10-03-2010, 08:23 AM
I would suggest that the story is more about the woman involved than a story about religion..
arista
10-03-2010, 08:37 AM
http://www.thisisbigbrother.com/forums/showthread.php?t=132670
Enid I posted this topic Yesterday
it is on this first page.
Crimson Dynamo
10-03-2010, 08:40 AM
http://www.thisisbigbrother.com/forums/showthread.php?t=132670
Enid I posted this topic Yesterday
it is on this first page.
I like this thread better. More information, better replies, more gravitas. Arista, you are losing your touch..
arista
10-03-2010, 08:41 AM
I like this thread better. More information, better replies, more gravitas. Arista, you are losing your touch..
Of Course you want this one more.
Crimson Dynamo
10-03-2010, 08:42 AM
Of Course you want this one more.
I see you concur this the better of the 2 threads
arista
10-03-2010, 08:45 AM
I see you concur this the better of the 2 threads
You are Not a Good Poster
to concur.
Crimson Dynamo
10-03-2010, 08:48 AM
You are Not a Good Poster
to concur.
agreeing with yourself is not a good look
arista
10-03-2010, 08:57 AM
This thread has done well
as LT
has not entered it.
Crimson Dynamo
10-03-2010, 09:02 AM
and Arista you voted this thread 1 star which is mean to Enid you big stinker
arista
10-03-2010, 09:43 AM
And Typical of LT
he voted this thread Terrible.
arista, I wouldn't have made a new thread if I had known someone made one first.
This is obviously not the right profession for her, if she can't leave her religion at the door. It's her job to do this. She's getting paid for it. If she can't handle it, **** and let someone else do it who is more capable.
Niamh.
10-03-2010, 11:04 AM
lol, crazy, why on earth be a pharmastist in the first place?
Crimson Dynamo
10-03-2010, 11:09 AM
And Typical of LT
he voted this thread Terrible.
I like to balance your perpetual 5 star personal highfiveism
Crimson Dynamo
10-03-2010, 11:10 AM
I would keep her on and tell the old lady to go to Boots in future
teamandre
10-03-2010, 11:11 AM
thats sick
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http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2010/03/09/article-1256602-08A5C5FC000005DC-438_468x286.jpg
Lol, I recognise those flats in the background. Near town, but possibly roughest area of Sheffield. Why do you think that pharmacy is covered in all that strange barb wired sh!t.
Niamh.
10-03-2010, 11:23 AM
I would suggest that the story is more about the woman involved than a story about religion..
Yes and no.
Yes most people don't do everyithing their religions say they should or shouldn't, like most people I know are catholics and contraception is against the religion but most of them use it anyway.
But No because as It is against some religions beliefs, in her mind she is breaking her religions rules by handing over contraceptives.
So, you are therefore saying that people should just pick and chose which religious rules they should or should not follow?
I would say If it's against your religion then don't be a pharmacist
Claymores
10-03-2010, 11:30 AM
I was refused by the Catholic church to be my girl's sister's son's godparent. Her sister wanted us but I'm an aethiest - at the christening I just stood at the back of the church while my girl became godmum.
Religion suks - as if I'd not help the kid if anything untoward happened to his parents.
Crimson Dynamo
10-03-2010, 11:47 AM
Yes and no.
Yes most people don't do everyithing their religions say they should or shouldn't, like most people I know are catholics and contraception is against the religion but most of them use it anyway.
But No because as It is against some religions beliefs, in her mind she is breaking her religions rules by handing over contraceptives.
So, you are therefore saying that people should just pick and chose which religious rules they should or should not follow?
I would say If it's against your religion then don't be a pharmacist
what are the religious rules that your refer to. Christian ones will do?
Crimson Dynamo
10-03-2010, 11:48 AM
i am excited to see whose mad pharmacist thread will win by 5pm today
Arista or Enid
it is neck and neck at the moment
Niamh.
10-03-2010, 11:50 AM
what are the religious rules that your refer to. Christian ones will do?
well, I am refering to this particular case, I know it is against Catholics rules to use contraception, I think Muslim also. Though it doesn't say what religion this lady was. Every topic involving religion doesn't have to be about christianity LT!
Claymores
10-03-2010, 11:50 AM
what are the religious rules that your refer to. Christian ones will do?
Can Gavin help us clarify the religious rules Leather? Or is he busy jumbo spotting with President?
Crimson Dynamo
10-03-2010, 11:55 AM
well, I am refering to this particular case, I know it is against Catholics rules to use contraception, I think Muslim also. Though it doesn't say what religion this lady was. Every topic involving religion doesn't have to be about christianity LT!
I know, I just thought it may be easier to state. I am however not sure what rules Christians have to adhere to apart from the the commandments.
I cant recall any regarding serving someone with contraceptives for pain relief?
Crimson Dynamo
10-03-2010, 11:55 AM
Can Gavin help us clarify the religious rules Leather? Or is he busy jumbo spotting with President?
If i was sure of who Gavin was I would tell you:conf:
Claymores
10-03-2010, 11:57 AM
If i was sure of who Gavin was I would tell you:conf:
Sure President:thumbs:
Niamh.
10-03-2010, 11:57 AM
I know, I just thought it may be easier to state. I am however not sure what rules Christians have to adhere to apart from the the commandments.
I cant recall any regarding serving someone with contraceptives for pain relief?
No but nobody is even talking about Christians, whatever religion she was, it was obviously against that religions rules and as I said I can't name the religion because I don't know it!
Crimson Dynamo
10-03-2010, 12:02 PM
No but nobody is even talking about Christians, whatever religion she was, it was obviously against that religions rules and as I said I can't name the religion because I don't know it!
I am not sure you are right. I think the lady perhaps has got her own religion wrong. What religion do you know that is as up to date as to "ban" adherents from serving contraception for pain relief?
does not make sense and sounds like all the facts were not at the disposal of the DM journo - shock horror.
Claymores
10-03-2010, 12:03 PM
i am excited to see whose mad pharmacist thread will win by 5pm today
Arista or Enid
it is neck and neck at the moment
Gavin sure can't as was bannedo for being President/Leather Trumpet in varying phases
Niamh.
10-03-2010, 12:04 PM
I am not sure you are right. I think the lady perhaps has got her own religion wrong. What religion do you know that is as up to date as to "ban" adherents from serving contraception for pain relief?
does not make sense and sounds like all the facts were not at the disposal of the DM journo - shock horror.
I'm presuming that the lady buying the pill would also be using it for contraceptive purposes!
Crimson Dynamo
10-03-2010, 12:06 PM
I'm presuming that the lady buying the pill would also be using it for contraceptive purposes!
i think no (did you see her pic?)
but even so, what is this religion that states this?
Crimson Dynamo
10-03-2010, 12:07 PM
Gavin sure can't as was bannedo for being President/Leather Trumpet in varying phases
you forgot two words
jumbo
elgin
Claymores
10-03-2010, 12:07 PM
i think no (did you see her pic?)
but even so, what is this religion that states this?
Switch your mind over and get Gavin to give us the definitive anwort
No but nobody is even talking about Christians, whatever religion she was, it was obviously against that religions rules and as I said I can't name the religion because I don't know it!
The pharmacist was catholic.
Claymores
10-03-2010, 12:09 PM
The pharmacist was catholic.
:hugesmile::hugesmile::
great answer
i am excited to see whose mad pharmacist thread will win by 5pm today
Arista or Enid
it is neck and neck at the moment
I'd prefer it if they were just merged. It isn't a competition.
Crimson Dynamo
10-03-2010, 12:10 PM
The pharmacist was catholic.
Catholics are banned from serving contraceptives for pain relief?
:conf:
Niamh.
10-03-2010, 12:11 PM
i think no (did you see her pic?)
but even so, what is this religion that states this?
well, for the religions that don't allow birth control(ie. Catholicism and Muslims) then selling it to people would be advocating it, I would imagine.
Crimson Dynamo
10-03-2010, 12:12 PM
I'd prefer it if they were just merged. It isn't a competition.
have confidence I think you can win
Niamh.
10-03-2010, 12:12 PM
The pharmacist was catholic.
Thank you.
Claymores
10-03-2010, 12:13 PM
you forgot two words
jumbo
elgin
Sorry - not being deep deep in the Highlands I had to go and consult the Church Committee
Catholics are banned from serving contraceptives for pain relief?
:conf:
I have no idea. You're the Christian. Not me. :P
Crimson Dynamo
10-03-2010, 12:13 PM
well, for the religions that don't allow birth control(ie. Catholicism and Muslims) then selling it to people would be advocating it, I would imagine.
lol. No I dont think so.
Crimson Dynamo
10-03-2010, 12:15 PM
I have no idea. You're the Christian. Not me. :P
I am not a Catholic but there is nothing in the Bible that states this. How many catholic pharmacists do you think there are in the world and how long has the pill been around?
arista
10-03-2010, 12:16 PM
I'd prefer it if they were just merged. It isn't a competition.
You made your thread after mine
so You could ask a Mod to merge yours with mine.
Claymores
10-03-2010, 12:17 PM
have confidence I think you can win
You have more IDs than anyone else - I'm sure Gavin will put a sage word in your ear @ 4.59.59
Niamh.
10-03-2010, 12:17 PM
lol. No I dont think so.
Of course it could be seen as this, most Catholics, lets be honest, are so because they were born into it, their parents were and their parents before them and so on and so on. Not because they chose to be and looked into it and said "This is what I believe, this is for me" This is why they don't follow the rules to the letter. I was born a Catholic and baptised, confirmed etc. but when I started thinking about it for myself, I thought, actually this is a big crock of sh1t, like alot of people I know.
Crimson Dynamo
10-03-2010, 12:18 PM
You made your thread after mine
so You could ask a Mod to merge yours with mine.
:hugesmile:
Crimson Dynamo
10-03-2010, 12:20 PM
You have more IDs than anyone else - I'm sure Gavin will put a sage word in your ear @ 4.59.59
I think if you looked my posts and the other folks you think i am there would be little in common etc. It would not be hard to check and save your posts which are of no interest to anyone.
I think the pharmacist was just throwing her weight around. Thought she could get away with being a bit of a jackass.
Crimson Dynamo
10-03-2010, 12:22 PM
Of course it could be seen as this, most Catholics, lets be honest, are so because they were born into it, their parents were and their parents before them and so on and so on. Not because they chose to be and looked into it and said "This is what I believe, this is for me" This is why they don't follow the rules to the letter. I was born a Catholic and baptised, confirmed etc. but when I started thinking about it for myself, I thought, actually this is a big crock of sh1t, like alot of people I know.
Yes but how many catholic Pharmacists do you think there have been in the world since the seventies and this lady is the only one to take a stand?
it is ridiculous in the extreme
as i said originally, this story is about the lady in question only.
Claymores
10-03-2010, 12:23 PM
I think if you looked my posts and the other folks you think i am there would be little in common etc. It would not be hard to check and save your posts which are of no interest to anyone.
C'mon - the Gavin/Leather Trumpet posts are getting a tad too close in styles winding people about religion. Go to another ID President
Crimson Dynamo
10-03-2010, 12:23 PM
I think the pharmacist was just throwing her weight around. Thought she could get away with being a bit of a jackass.
could be, or she did not like the lady concerned
nowt to do with Catholicism though
Crimson Dynamo
10-03-2010, 12:25 PM
C'mon - the Gavin/Leather Trumpet posts are getting a tad too close in styles winding people about religion. Go to another ID President
"winding people about religion"
examples please?
Claymores
10-03-2010, 12:26 PM
"winding people about religion"
examples please?
can't be arsed President - go spot some white military jumbos with Gavin
Niamh.
10-03-2010, 12:28 PM
Yes but how many catholic Pharmacists do you think there have been in the world since the seventies and this lady is the only one to take a stand?
it is ridiculous in the extreme
as i said originally, this story is about the lady in question only.
It would be interesting to know what the Catholic churches response to it would be though!
Crimson Dynamo
10-03-2010, 12:29 PM
It would be interesting to know what the Catholic churches response to it would be though!
I would be surprised if there is any reaction as it does not concern them.
Niamh.
10-03-2010, 12:32 PM
I would be surprised if there is any reaction as it does not concern them.
Well, If she is a Catholic and she is using her religious beliefs as a reason to not serve and by doing so belittle a person, In the name of the Catholic Church then I think they should comment on it. If she's been mis understanding the rules of her faith don't you think they should tell that?
Crimson Dynamo
10-03-2010, 12:41 PM
Well, If she is a Catholic and she is using her religious beliefs as a reason to not serve and by doing so belittle a person, In the name of the Catholic Church then I think they should comment on it. If she's been mis understanding the rules of her faith don't you think they should tell that?
Same as they would not comment if a psycho said God and the Pope told him to kill etc.
Niamh.
10-03-2010, 12:45 PM
Same as they would not comment if a psycho said God and the Pope told him to kill etc.
No, that's completely different LT and you know it, she is saying it's against her religion which, as we demonstrated here this morning by having an argument about it, is believable that she make think it is. So, If she is wrong maybe her church should tell her that. We are not talking about a murderer with voices in their head LT.
Shasown
10-03-2010, 12:46 PM
Sorry - not being deep deep in the Highlands I had to go and consult the Church Committee
Just back from Elgin I had my eyes peeled, no jumbos or military white planes doing U-turns today.
Light cloud cover gradually thickening, Cirrus clouds mostly at first but slowly thickening from the SW with altostratus and altocumulus, cloud cover when I left was about 80% so not the best day for spotters.
Claymores
10-03-2010, 12:54 PM
Just back from Elgin I had my eyes peeled, no jumbos or military white planes doing U-turns today.
Light cloud cover gradually thickening, Cirrus clouds mostly at first but slowly thickening from the SW with altostratus and altocumulus, cloud cover when I left was about 80% so not the best day for spotters.
shhhhhhhhhhh - don't give the weather forecast up to them terrorists looking to fly jumbos into our centres of the world economy - Leather Trumpet has SAMs ready just in case
Al quieda will have read your post "Careless Talk Costs Lives"
Crimson Dynamo
10-03-2010, 12:56 PM
No, that's completely different LT and you know it, she is saying it's against her religion which, as we demonstrated here this morning by having an argument about it, is believable that she make think it is. So, If she is wrong maybe her church should tell her that. We are not talking about a murderer with voices in their head LT.
We know that her stance has no biblical basis
We know that all other Catholic pharmacists dish out the pills in question with no problem
like I said, it is an issue about a woman who is either pissed off with the woman she served or has got her Catholicism all wrong and twisted.
It is not about Catholicism however.
Niamh.
10-03-2010, 01:02 PM
We know that her stance has no biblical basis
We know that all other Catholic pharmacists dish out the pills in question with no problem
like I said, it is an issue about a woman who is either pissed off with the woman she served or has got her Catholicism all wrong and twisted.
It is not about Catholicism however.
Well, you're assuming that she might be pissed of with the woman in question but I got the impression from reading the article that the woman had never even seen her in there before., so I would assume it's because she believes that she is following her religions rules so therefore I think her church owe it to her to tell her that infact she is not breaking any rules by selling contraceptives, it may just save her job and prevent similar occurances happening in the future, it's a win/win thing to do by telling her that surely!
Crimson Dynamo
10-03-2010, 01:04 PM
Well, you're assuming that she might be pissed of with the woman in question but I got the impression from reading the article that the woman had never even seen her in there before., so I would assume it's because she believes that she is following her religions rules so therefore I think her church owe it to her to tell her that infact she is not breaking any rules by selling contraceptives, it may just save her job and prevent similar occurances happening in the future, it's a win/win thing to do by telling her that surely!
I am sure her priest may have a word with her, but that is all.
Begs the question how long has she been there and if it is more than one week why has this not come to light before
Niamh.
10-03-2010, 01:06 PM
I am sure her priest may have a word with her, but that is all.
Begs the question how long has she been there and if it is more than one week why has this not come to light before
She was filling in for someone it said, alot of people probably wouldn't have gone to the paper or complained about it probably just grumbled about it and went else where or maybe were really embarassed about it?
Shasown
10-03-2010, 01:08 PM
It would be interesting to know what the Catholic churches response to it would be though!
Probably it is not the policy of the Catholic Church to impose their beliefs on non catholics, it is a matter of conscience for the individual concerned, if she is a Catholic.
The drugs in question while being a birth control pill also reduce the symptoms of endromiotisis, which the patient says she has, one of the symptoms of which can be very painful periods. By regulating and reducing the period, using the hormones in certain makes of pill, any pain is also regulated and reduced in severity, longevity and recurrence. And a pharmacist can be expected to know that
So this pharmacist was in fact simply preventing what in effect was a pain killer from being used, in this womans case.
Crimson Dynamo
10-03-2010, 01:10 PM
Yesterday the unnamed pharmacist, believed to be of West Indian origin, was not at work. She is understood to be a locum providing cover for staff days off.
NHS Sheffield said it would investigate if a formal complaint was made – but The Royal *Pharmaceutical Society of Great Britain said the pharmacist was acting within her rights.
It said she is not required to *provide a service *contrary to religious or moral beliefs.
But any attempt to impose their beliefs on customers or not send them on to another pharmacist “could form the basis of a *complaint of professional *misconduct”, said a spokesman for the society. (Daily Express)
Shasown
10-03-2010, 01:11 PM
shhhhhhhhhhh - don't give the weather forecast up to them terrorists looking to fly jumbos into our centres of the world economy - Leather Trumpet has SAMs ready just in case
Al quieda will have read your post "Careless Talk Costs Lives"
Gotya, mum's the word, "Loose Lips Sinks Ships"
Niamh.
10-03-2010, 01:15 PM
Yesterday the unnamed pharmacist, believed to be of West Indian origin, was not at work. She is understood to be a locum providing cover for staff days off.
NHS Sheffield said it would investigate if a formal complaint was made – but The Royal *Pharmaceutical Society of Great Britain said the pharmacist was acting within her rights.
It said she is not required to *provide a service *contrary to religious or moral beliefs.
But any attempt to impose their beliefs on customers or not send them on to another pharmacist “could form the basis of a *complaint of professional *misconduct”, said a spokesman for the society. (Daily Express)
Well, yes, It does seem more imposing her beliefs on rather than providing a service.
Crimson Dynamo
10-03-2010, 01:18 PM
Miss Deeley, an unemployed single mother, has daughters *Carlie, 18, and Lauren, 14.
She is concerned about such a refusal policy. She said: “My daughter is 18. She might want to go on the Pill and she has got that right.
“I’d rather have that than an unwanted pregnancy.” (Express)
hmmmmm
Niamh.
10-03-2010, 01:19 PM
what's the hhhhmmmmmmm about LT?
Crimson Dynamo
10-03-2010, 01:23 PM
what's the hhhhmmmmmmm about LT?
i am humming Tinie Tempah
Niamh.
10-03-2010, 01:25 PM
i am humming Tinie Tempah
voice of an angel LT
Shasown
10-03-2010, 02:12 PM
voice of an angel LT
Tone Deaf Niamh
Niamh.
10-03-2010, 02:13 PM
Tone Deaf Niamh
:joker:
arista
10-03-2010, 03:59 PM
Lol, I recognise those flats in the background. Near town, but possibly roughest area of Sheffield. Why do you think that pharmacy is covered in all that strange barb wired sh!t.
Yes Well Done Daily Mail
to give the better Photos.
This Worker must be sacked.
Jack_
10-03-2010, 04:03 PM
I think I recognise that pharmacy...
Crimson Dynamo
10-03-2010, 04:09 PM
Yes Well Done Daily Mail
to give the better Photos.
This Worker must be sacked.
Not until all the facts are taken into account. We only have 1 story so far.
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