Ethnic minorities nine times more likely to be stopped by Rozzers

[Crimson Dynamo]

"The Equality and Human Rights Commission (gravy train) said that forces that continue to “disproportionately” target black and Asian Britons will be threatened with legal action for breaches of the Race Relations Act.

The research showed that the Metropolitan Police recorded the highest rates of stop and search, for which officers have to have a reasonable suspicion of involvement in criminality.

In the south London borough of Wandsworth, black people were stopped and searched at nine times the rate of white people. "

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/crime/7443446/Ethnic-minorities-nine-times-more-likely-to-be-stopped-and-searched.html


Is this because they are more likely to be crims or that they tend to be out at night more?

[hennessy]

it's because they are black unfortunately.
When I hung out with my black mates from school back in the late 90's we were stopped almost every other street when walking back from school.
My all white friends were never stopped with me.
make of it what you will.

[Crimson Dynamo]

it's because they are black unfortunately.
When I hung out with my black mates from school back in the late 90's we were stopped almost every other street when walking back from school.
My all white friends were never stopped with me.
make of it what you will.

that black young men are more likely to be involved in crime and so the police are more likely to stop them?

[hennessy]

we can't be tarring an entire race.
I'm London-Irish and have been told of the persecution of my family in the 70's from police.
Does that mean we were all terrorists?
Stop them if you have genuine reasons to but the police didn't even give us a reason why they stopped us when we were 15.
continual stop and searches will breed contempt

[Dr.Gonzo]

Ethnic minorities nine times more likely to be stopped by Rozzers

It's because there's so *****ing many of them. 'Minorities' isn't even relevant now.

[30stone]

There is a show about to start with that statistic in the advert..


And then you see this black kid hood up and hat on cant barely see his face, giving mouth to the police...
Can see why.

[Dr.Gonzo]

Is it cos I is black, yo?!

No, it's because you have a shotgun sticking out the back of your *****ing pants.

[hennessy]

I live in Fulham, South London where we have I think the highest stabbing rate and of coarse some profiling must go on but I know many 30 year old family orientated black men getting stopped.
It's a catch 22, there are knifes out there, they have to be searched but you have to be right in who you stop.

[Crimson Dynamo]

the police have a hard enough job without busybody quangos getting their liberal knickers in a twist. they would be better finding out why black youths get involved in crime and why most of them dont have dads at home or in their lives.

[karezza]

Only white people commit crimes - fact.

[Dr.Gonzo]

How very racist of you.

[karezza]

Only white people should be stopped by the police - blacks have suffered enough.

[Shasown]

It could be due to reported crimes with suspect descriptions, It could be due to crime figures in the area show most crimes were committed by non whites. It could be down to the fact the people were acting suspiciosly (hanging around in gangs then attempting to hide themselves from police). It could also be due to a lot of other factors, or it could also be due to plod in that area (the Met) are still institionally racist.

Isnt it great when a government funded body only points out one set of figures to get a little bit of publicity when they know that they will have to account for themselves in possible future budget cuts, though they no doubt have access to all the relevant information from which a more balanced view could be produced?

[Scarlett.]

I've lived in Burnley, its easy to see why, 90% of the black people who lived there were violent chavs...and I'm being serious, not dramatic

[setanta]

I've lived in Burnley, its easy to see why, 90% of the black people who lived there were violent chavs...and I'm being serious, not dramatic

Oh, so I'm sure that you've committed hours, no days of research to compile that statistic right? You can't be saying something like 90% without some evidence to back it up.

[Scarlett.]

Oh, so I'm sure that you've committed hours, no days of research to compile that statistic right? You can't be saying something like 90% without some evidence to back a statement like that up.
Okay, 90% of the black people I met in Burnley wanted to psychically harm me and people I knew for just walking through a ethenic area, that good enough?

Though, thats due to the area and not the culture, Blackpool has much better cultured population

[setanta]

Okay, 90% of the black people I met in Burnley wanted to psychically harm me and people I knew for just walking through a ethenic area, that good enough?

Though, thats due to the area and not the culture, Blackpool has much better cultured population

Nah, it's not good enough really. Not good enough to attach a percentile to it anyway.

What constitutes a better culture to you by the way?

[Scarlett.]

Nah, it's not good enough really. Not good enough to attach a percentile to it anyway.

What constitutes a better culture to you by the way?

A better culture meaning, I dont fear for my life when walking home in the dark? I'd say thats a better culture after living in the ****hole named Burnley

I'm not saying its all black people who are nasty in Bunrley, most of the population are ignorant bastards, what I'm trying to say, if thats the only exposure some people have had to other cultures, can you really blame them for being suspicious? (I personally am not, but a lot of people I knew growing up was) It's like Blackpuddlians complaining about Polish people (who have have NO problem with)

From the way you worded your replies, I think you were getting my theory of why people are racist confused with my personal opinion, I personally think everyone should be equal in the world, everyone deserves an equal chance of life, though of course, this is real life and that wont happen

[cupid stunt]

"The Equality and Human Rights Commission (gravy train) said that forces that continue to “disproportionately” target black and Asian Britons will be threatened with legal action for breaches of the Race Relations Act.

The research showed that the Metropolitan Police recorded the highest rates of stop and search, for which officers have to have a reasonable suspicion of involvement in criminality.

In the south London borough of Wandsworth, black people were stopped and searched at nine times the rate of white people. "

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/crime/7443446/Ethnic-minorities-nine-times-more-likely-to-be-stopped-and-searched.html


Is this because they are more likely to be crims or that they tend to be out at night more?

nah nah ITS BECAUSE COPPERS ARE RACIST BASTARDS WHO SHUD BE OUT CATCHING NONCES AND TERRORISTS INSTEAD OF TRYNA FIND SUMONE WI A LIKKLE BAG OF WEED ON DEM

[cupid stunt]

Okay, 90% of the black people I met in Burnley wanted to psychically harm me and people I knew for just walking through a ethenic area, that good enough?

Though, thats due to the area and not the culture, Blackpool has much better cultured population

well DONT GO WALKIN THROUGH THERE ENDS THEN INT IT? YOU WOULDNT GO TO BRADFORD AND START BURNING A PAKISTANI FLAG WOULD YOU ? ITS CALLED ASKING 4 IT MATE!

[Scarlett.]

well DONT GO WALKIN THROUGH THERE ENDS THEN INT IT? YOU WOULDNT GO TO BRADFORD AND START BURNING A PAKISTANI FLAG WOULD YOU ? ITS CALLED ASKING 4 IT MATE!
Erm...last time I checked it was reffered to as "walking home from school"

[Shasown]

well DONT GO WALKIN THROUGH THERE ENDS THEN INT IT? YOU WOULDNT GO TO BRADFORD AND START BURNING A PAKISTANI FLAG WOULD YOU ? ITS CALLED ASKING 4 IT MATE!

So walking down a street is as insulting and as inflammatory as burning someone elses national flag?

[WOMBAI]

well DONT GO WALKIN THROUGH THERE ENDS THEN INT IT? YOU WOULDNT GO TO BRADFORD AND START BURNING A PAKISTANI FLAG WOULD YOU ? ITS CALLED ASKING 4 IT MATE!

This is Britain - not Kingston, Jamaica - the gangs don't own the streets!

[cupid stunt]

So walking down a street is as insulting and as inflammatory as burning comeone elses national flag?

nah course it aint, but you cant walk thru an estate wot u dont know and expect not 2 get hassled or robbed

[cupid stunt]

This is Britain - not Kingston, Jamaica - the gangs don't own the streets!

nah nah **** THIS, THEY DO RUN THE STREETS BUT I BET YOU LIVE IN SUM VILLAGE SO YOU WOULDNT KNOW LUV, THE SIMPLE TING IS THAT U SHUDNT WALK THRU THE HOOD IF YOU DONT WANT TROUBLE

[WOMBAI]

nah nah **** THIS, THEY DO RUN THE STREETS BUT I BET YOU LIVE IN SUM VILLAGE SO YOU WOULDNT KNOW LUV, THE SIMPLE TING IS THAT U SHUDNT WALK THRU THE HOOD IF YOU DONT WANT TROUBLE

The hood can **** off - they don't own our streets, luv!

[cupid stunt]

i bet you live in sum village in devon or suttin and you never been 2 the hood in your life

[WOMBAI]

i bet you live in sum village in devon or suttin and you never been 2 the hood in your life

No I haven't - but that doesn't change anything! Anyone behaving like that should be in jail - that is where animals belong!

[Shasown]

nah course it aint, but you cant walk thru an estate wot u dont know and expect not 2 get hassled or robbed

Then in that case teenage gangs hanging around on street corners have nothing to complain about if the police stop and search them every time they patrol past them, should they?

[InOne]

Well blacks seem to have that 'Us against them' attitude. They never cooperate with the police really anyway. They're only victims to themselves.

[Crimson Dynamo]

i bet you live in sum village in devon or suttin and you never been 2 the hood in your life

lol at the hood

you mean some skanky housing scheme with a bunch of junk food daisies and JJB sports clad numpties

wooooo

scary:joker:

[InOne]

I've lived in Burnley, its easy to see why, 90% of the black people who lived there were violent chavs...and I'm being serious, not dramatic

I've seen that video of the Burnley riots. Crazy stuff.

[NettoSuperstar!]

it's because they are black unfortunately.
When I hung out with my black mates from school back in the late 90's we were stopped almost every other street when walking back from school.
My all white friends were never stopped with me.
make of it what you will.

Yeh same I come from a rough diverse area and the black lads used to get battered by the cops never mind just stopped the white lads never got that + the street/gang culture makes young black criminals more visible

[Crimson Dynamo]

I blame the black fathers, or lack of them

[bananarama]

the police have a hard enough job without busybody quangos getting their liberal knickers in a twist. they would be better finding out why black youths get involved in crime and why most of them dont have dads at home or in their lives.

Exactly.......If a red car is seen in the course of a crime you don't expect the police to look for blue ones......They look for what fits the description........Political correctnesss madness.......I would love to see political correctness become a crime in its self.......

[NettoSuperstar!]

the police have a hard enough job without busybody quangos getting their liberal knickers in a twist. they would be better finding out why black youths get involved in crime and why most of them dont have dads at home or in their lives.

Its not just black youths that get involved in crime or have absent fathers, sure theres a problem with absent fathers/street gangs anyone from the black community would agree, but what use is there in singling the black community out when trying to solve a problem that invloves people from all backgrounds who are marginalised from society? , better to tackle the problem as a whole and each individual community involved need to step up and take action. When you've grown up in a poor area you can see perfectly well that theres criminal behaviour going on from white and ethnic minority groups, you just might be more likely to get yer spliff and crack from a black man and your e's and whizz from a white man, but it will be the minority groups that are more likely to get picked up for various reasons...and treated more harshly

[Tom4784]

Both sides are right really, I'm guessing most of the police are just using profiling methods and such but there'll always be a percentage that are prejudiced sadly. The police are human and like with everyone else some will have their faults not that it justifies baseless acusations and such.

[InOne]

It's weird how it's almost always black on black crime as well. The gang culture they've adopted is getting ridiculous.

[NettoSuperstar!]

It's weird how it's almost always black on black crime as well. The gang culture they've adopted is getting ridiculous.

Its not just a problem in the black community though, you get the same things happening amongst white marginalised subcultures in the most deprived areas too. Where you get poverty ,deprivation, no jobs, drugs are rife, no hope, no aspiration and your cut off and discriminated against by mainstream society....the same problems occur, its not a new thing and its not because they iZ Black aiiight

[Claymores]

lol at the hood

you mean some skanky housing scheme with a bunch of junk food daisies and JJB sports clad numpties

wooooo

scary:joker:

None of that in the deep deep highlands tho LT

[Claymores]

Its not just a problem in the black community though, you get the same things happening amongst white marginalised subcultures in the most deprived areas too. Where you get poverty ,deprivation, no jobs, drugs are rife, no hope, no aspiration and your cut off and discriminated against by mainstream society....the same problems occur, its not a new thing and its not because they iZ Black aiiight

Very true and good words - watch "Trainspotting" (or read the book) which is all about the sub-culture in the affluent City of Edinburgh for people marginalised

The phrase is 'social exclusion' in many circles

[Claymores]

When I was a student at EDI, a few kept on going on about how nice Edinburgh was.........I got a shot of my dad's car and drove them to Pilton Circus (an almost round bleak set of 60s slums). We were able to drive around for about a quarter of the circle before the rubble in the road made it impossible to continue so I had to reverse all the way back which was easy as there were no parked cars.

I think people here forget that poverty and hopelessness still exist in UK too irrespective of race or colour.

[NettoSuperstar!]

Very true and good words - watch "Trainspotting" (or read the book) which is all about the sub-culture in the affluent City of Edinburgh for people marginalised

The phrase is 'social exclusion' in many circles

Oh yeh and "social inclusion" massively on the agenda these days, which is good sign, just hope the cons dont get in and feck it all up, kick em back down....seen Trainspotting, class film

[Claymores]

I blame the black fathers, or lack of them

Hit us with more president - or did Gavin drag you to the chucch to have a committee meeting about it?


How deep is it in the highlands? Less deep than Wales?

[InOne]

Its not just a problem in the black community though, you get the same things happening amongst white marginalised subcultures in the most deprived areas too. Where you get poverty ,deprivation, no jobs, drugs are rife, no hope, no aspiration and your cut off and discriminated against by mainstream society....the same problems occur, its not a new thing and its not because they iZ Black aiiight

I never said it was just a black prob. It's just this new underclass that has been created.