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Patrick
18-04-2010, 11:40 AM
As we prepare for the last series on Channel 4, we ask can Big Brother really survive on another channel?

Big Brother definitely hasn’t stayed out of the spotlight since it began in 2000 in a small house in Bow, East London. Whether the news be positive or negative, the show has never failed to create a stir in the media. It’s the reality show that many have loved to hate. Channel 4 announced last year that Big Brother 11 would be its last on the channel, leaving Endemol in the dark about Big Brother 12.

The show has been Channel 4’s flagship for the past ten years, bringing in some of the best ratings that the channel has seen. However in recent years, the format seems to have been neglected. Gone is the series hype with clever advertising on billboards and the 24 hour live feed; could this have really dampened the show’s future?

Endemol, the show’s producers, will be eager to find a new home for the programme once it has finished. Five and Sky ruled out taking on the reality show, but then it emerged that Five may be interested in the popular Celebrity Big Brother format. One major hurdle which Endemol face is persuading broadcasters that Big Brother still has a future. With Channel 4 neglecting the show, the show’s ratings have slid away. Some night’s only attracting a mere 2 million viewers, only a few years earlier, a highlights show may have attracted 5 or 6 million.

If Endemol could secure a deal with another channel, then perhaps the format could be saved. Being rid of the heavy restraints and budget cuts, the show could come out of the black hole that it is currently sat in. Bigger advertising campaigns would be a big element in its success, proving to the general public that Big Brother is back, bigger and better than ever. Another factor which would ultimately seal its fate would be the execution of the series; clever twists and tasks are needed to give the highlights shows a much needed boost. The housemates are also very important, gimmicks and ‘clear winners’ are no good for the show. Where have all of the ‘normal’ civilians gone?

Finally, Davina MUST stay! Big Brother isn’t Big Brother without her. The ratings would slump even further if she was to be sacked. The original format must also remain, but with decisive changes.

Big Brother could have a bright future on another broadcaster if the right changes were made and enough support was pledged by the channel to support it!


-Inside Big Brother

ILoveTRW
18-04-2010, 11:42 AM
tbh id rather it just ended

Firewire
18-04-2010, 11:44 AM
something makes me think that you didn't write this.

Patrick
18-04-2010, 11:45 AM
something makes me think that you didn't write this.

I didnt say I did LOL

Its from Inside Big Brother, I was posting it on here to see what others thought.
:)

Stacey.
18-04-2010, 11:53 AM
yeah, i think [and hope] it can :D

Firewire
18-04-2010, 11:53 AM
I didnt say I did LOL

Its from Inside Big Brother, I was posting it on here to see what others thought.
:)

oh ok lol.

WOMBAI
18-04-2010, 11:55 AM
No - its had its day! Nothing goes on forever!

Patrick
18-04-2010, 11:57 AM
No - its had its day! Nothing goes on forever!

Big Brother in other countries is still going on, ours is clearly the best and the most entertaining so I dont see why it cant go on.

So BB10 went into a dark hole of 1 Million per night, but CBB7 Proved it can be good again I just hope Five dont buy Celebrity Big Brother 8 and ignore Big Brother 12 :(

Captain.Remy
18-04-2010, 12:01 PM
I think it's time to let it go. It was amazing the time it lasted but it ran out its time.

zotler.
18-04-2010, 12:01 PM
Big Brother in other countries is still going on, ours is clearly the best and the most entertaining so I dont see why it cant go on.

So BB10 went into a dark hole of 1 Million per night, but CBB7 Proved it can be good again I just hope Five dont buy Celebrity Big Brother 8 and ignore Big Brother 12 :(

Clearly ours is not the best and most entertaining if it's still going on in other countries.

Firewire
18-04-2010, 12:04 PM
I think it's time to let it go.

Patrick
18-04-2010, 12:07 PM
Clearly ours is not the best and most entertaining if it's still going on in other countries.


Clearly it is. :p

Its just the fact C4 want to revamp their channel.

Big Brother isnt as big as it is in other countries as it is here, in America I dont even think they have BB News on their papers or anything.

In other countries its just a TV Show where as here its like a big thing every year.

Scarlett.
18-04-2010, 12:18 PM
No, it's had its day

Jordan.
18-04-2010, 01:10 PM
Id rather if it wasnt continuing on C4 not go to another channel just incase it is complety killed. Its better to go off on a high on C4 and possibly return in a few years time.

Scarlett.
18-04-2010, 01:11 PM
Yeah, if another channel did get it, it wouldnt be BB as you know it

BigBrotherfan4ever
18-04-2010, 01:25 PM
I would love it to go to another channel
but as others have said, i think if
it did, it just wouldn't be the same,
cause i think they would mess with format
in some way or another.

BrooklynFan
18-04-2010, 01:33 PM
I think it needs to drop so many spin off shows. and it needs to take the contestants credit cards and charge them for food instead of depending ont asks and shopping lists.

Glenn.
18-04-2010, 01:38 PM
It can barely survive on C4. Its had its time. Let it die, and bring it back in 10yrs!

Sticks
18-04-2010, 02:10 PM
Another factor which would ultimately seal its fate would be the execution of the series

What they actually want a housemate executed? :shocked:

If you could tune in to see a housemate die for real, would you watch?

Would they get anyone volunteering to go on this if there was the possibility they might be the one executed? Would they tempt people with a larger prize fund?

I would love to see the contract that would allow that, plus they might have to film it out side of UK waters as some lawyer might object to the deliberate killing of a contestant.

Or am I being a bit obtuse here :whistle:

MeMyselfAndI
18-04-2010, 02:12 PM
What they actually want a housemate executed? :shocked:

If you could tune in to see a housemate die for real, would you watch?

Would they get anyone volunteering to go on this if there was the possibility they might be the one executed? Would they tempt people with a larger prize fund?

I would love to see the contract that would allow that, plus they might have to film it out side of UK waters as some lawyer might object to the deliberate killing of a contestant.

Or am I being a bit obtuse here :whistle:

he meant the series getting executed not a housemate

Princess
18-04-2010, 02:13 PM
Nope,it's time for it to end now.

*mazedsalv**
18-04-2010, 02:29 PM
There IS still life in BB, I know there is. Another channel will trat it better, but it should come back in 2012 or 2013 after a 2/3 year rest IMO.

Look at all the other BBs which are controlled all by Endemol. The 10th edition of Italian BB (Grande Fratello) was the most watched series to date getting a peak of 10m in the finale and like a 60% share, with an average of 6-7m. When a few years ago (I think the 7th series) was getting less.

ITV would be the best to do it, But that wont ever happen. So either Sky1 or Five are the most possible.

Also its because i could have auditioned for a BB12 as i would be old enough, I always wanted to. Im a stable person, i wont break down with the popularity (or hatred)... because my family keeps me happy.

Patrick
18-04-2010, 02:33 PM
Yeah Salv, thats one of the reasons I would like it to return in a few years so I could audition, if it returns next year (Too early) it could fail and the other channel would remove it and that would well and truely be the end of it and we wouldnt get a chance to audition.


Does anyone else know if theres a possibility of Channel 4 ever taking it back in a few years time?

I know for sure another channel would be intrested in picking it up 2 or 3 years down the line but what about its original home C4 actually taking it back after a break?

Would they attempt that?

*mazedsalv**
18-04-2010, 02:40 PM
Yeah Salv, thats one of the reasons I would like it to return in a few years so I could audition, if it returns next year (Too early) it could fail and the other channel would remove it and that would well and truely be the end of it and we wouldnt get a chance to audition.


Does anyone else know if theres a possibility of Channel 4 ever taking it back in a few years time?

I know for sure another channel would be intrested in picking it up 2 or 3 years down the line but what about its original home C4 actually taking it back after a break?

Would they attempt that?


Well if all their replacement shows fail they would have to consider to have it back. The only C4 pullers at the moment are Embarassing Bodies, One Born a Minute, Location Location (and possibly CDWM).
When they are not on air, what will happen? I have read the details of the replacement shows, they look terrible. They could fail, like Unanimous did.

officialleafan
18-04-2010, 02:46 PM
I think any show has potential to live on, especially something like Big Brother because it can be quite different every year.

If it was a question of "will they get their ratings back up again", i'd say no, but i really hope that Channel 5 or someone can take the show on because i can't stand the thought of this time next year, no BB being on :(

Shasown
18-04-2010, 02:51 PM
As we prepare for the last series on Channel 4, we ask can Big Brother really survive on another channel?



Finally, Davina MUST stay! Big Brother isn’t Big Brother without her. The ratings would slump even further if she was to be sacked. The original format must also remain, but with decisive changes.

Big Brother could have a bright future on another broadcaster if the right changes were made and enough support was pledged by the channel to support it!

Yes it would nice be nice to see another station air BB if thats what you mean, whilst you post showed your loyalty for the show which is commendable, it also showed some strange idiosynchrasies.

The show didnt lose support because of a lack of advertising, the show lost viewers because its decided to turn it into a freak show as opposed to a show that had main stream appeal.

The original format doesnt bear too close a resemblance to the freak show they now have( Housemates allowed out of the house into the centre of London, last years partnership puke fest).

What do you mean the original format with decisive changes?

Its not about a channel supporting it, its about sponsors wanting to sponsor it in the hope the increased advertising they receive has a good effect on sales of their product.

Captain.Remy
18-04-2010, 03:21 PM
Clearly it is. :p

Its just the fact C4 want to revamp their channel.

Big Brother isnt as big as it is in other countries as it is here, in America I dont even think they have BB News on their papers or anything.

In other countries its just a TV Show where as here its like a big thing every year.

It clearly isn't big here anymore Patrick. It had literally almost 0 media coverage last year.
Contrary to many countries, the UK version of BB isn't "the show" no one can miss, it got eaten alive by BGT, the X Factor, there's no fever anymore.

Take a look in Italy, in Spain, in the Philippines, in Germany...

Raph
18-04-2010, 03:21 PM
Yes. Honestly, BBUK is the most wicked show ever! It'll do well anywhere ;)

Patrick
18-04-2010, 03:25 PM
i can't stand the thought of this time next year, no BB being on :(

IKR.

Even if it does get picked up, I cant see it all happening within a year.

I actually wont know what to do with myself come Summer 2011.. It will be dark times, dark times indeed.

That may seem incrediably sad to anyone who isnt a BB Fan but if you've spent Over 5 Years watching a show to the point it becomes part of your summer (Like im sure you all have) well then it feels really awkward and sad without it.

Captain.Remy
18-04-2010, 03:28 PM
IKR.

Even if it does get picked up, I cant see it all happening within a year.

I actually wont know what to do with myself come Summer 2011.. It will be dark times, dark times indeed.

That may seem incrediably sad to anyone who isnt a BB Fan but if you've spent Over 5 Years watching a show to the point it becomes part of your summer (Like im sure you all have) well then it feels really awkward and sad without it.

That's what happened to the few of us in here who loved Big Brother Australia. It felt so so empty when it got cancelled. It usually was held around april/may and something didn't feel right but you overcome this and you find something else to do. :hugesmile: I still miss it tho.

iRyan
18-04-2010, 04:44 PM
Big Brother isnt as big as it is in other countries as it is here, in America I dont even think they have BB News on their papers or anything.

That's true, but it's because in America there are ACTUAL celebrities that people care more to hear about, unfortunely. I personally am so sick of our obsession over celebrities.

But it is still extremely popular, most of the people I know in my school all watch it and talk about it. And it does get media coverage in the beginning, and to some extent some of the people who have been on it experience some fame, like Jeff and Jordan from BB11.

Alot of people say ours is fake and edited to death, but really it's not and that's why people watch the live feeds. So you know EXACTLY what is going on, but most people tune into the real show to see the competitions because those don't air on the feeds. As a live feeds watcher, most of what is shown in the edited shows is true to what is actually occuring on the feeds. Although it can be in some cases where once CBS discovers a fan favorite, they are edited to be the "star of the show" since it's what people want to see.

One of the things that makes the show so popular is that it's heavily advertised. CBS is argueably the biggest and most powerful television station in the US, and the president of CBS' wife hosts the show. Therefore, it's probably not something that would be easily cancelled. But anyway, like every 20 minutes on the channel they show a commercial advertising the show. Like when Chima quit, it was SO heavily hyped and advertised that that episode became the highest rated of the series.

Ruth*Star
18-04-2010, 04:52 PM
It is still popular in America, It did fantastic ratings there last year as far as i know.

Patrick
18-04-2010, 04:52 PM
It is still popular in America, It did fantastic ratings there last year as far as i know.

I didnt say it wasnt.

Im not talking about USA.

MrGaryy
18-04-2010, 05:06 PM
That's what happened to the few of us in here who loved Big Brother Australia. It felt so so empty when it got cancelled. It usually was held around april/may and something didn't feel right but you overcome this and you find something else to do. :hugesmile: I still miss it tho.

I miss BBAU very much still LOL. But at least it went out on a high!

Captain.Remy
18-04-2010, 06:17 PM
I miss BBAU very much still LOL. But at least it went out on a high!

I know. I even came to the conclusion that I miss Gretel LMAO :hugesmile: I sometimes do watch random clips on Youtube. It was brilliant.

Harry!
18-04-2010, 06:29 PM
It will have lower raitings on another channel.

Tom4784
18-04-2010, 06:38 PM
The thing is that the general public just don't care anymore, any other channel could pick it up and it'll be dropped after a series because the format is tired and old hat.

BBitterLemons
18-04-2010, 07:03 PM
I think TV stations are trying to play down buying BB because it would seem to be uncool at the moment, the show isn't as it was before BUT.. when the time comes, I bet there will be bidding wars. BB is a guaranteed money-maker even if it never regains its original sky-high ratings.

Patrick
18-04-2010, 07:07 PM
It will have lower raitings on another channel.

Depends on BB11 Does and how much the other channel put effort into it.

BigBrotherfan4ever
18-04-2010, 07:09 PM
I think TV stations are trying to play down buying BB because it would seem to be uncool at the moment, the show isn't as it was before BUT.. when the time comes, I bet there will be bidding wars. BB is a guaranteed money-maker even if it never regains its original sky-high ratings.

I hope your right BL, i think maybe when BB starts in a few week we will here of different channel in bidding for it..BTBH i really dont see anyone taking it sadly:bawling:

Tom4784
18-04-2010, 07:14 PM
I think TV stations are trying to play down buying BB because it would seem to be uncool at the moment, the show isn't as it was before BUT.. when the time comes, I bet there will be bidding wars. BB is a guaranteed money-maker even if it never regains its original sky-high ratings.

But the problem is that 2-3 million viewers isn't enough for the terrestial channels. The only realistic aspect is possibly Channel 5 but then they have a lower viewership then C4 so it wouldn't last long there either. The problem is that the format peaked a few BB's back and a survivor-esque format like the US version probably wouldn't take here as there's been plenty of shows that have tried a similar format and failed.

It COULD come back in fair few years time but I don't see it happening, the intrigue has gone, people are over this type of reality TV. There's only really I'm a Celeb left and I can see that being axed sooner rather then later. Reality TV's all about Talent competitions now. BB-esque shows have had their day.

BBDodge
18-04-2010, 07:14 PM
Of course it could.

But I don't see any other channel willing to commit resources at present. Maybe in 2 years time. I don't think there will be a BB 2011.

Beastie
18-04-2010, 07:28 PM
It will end.. it will have a break then in a few years it will return. There will be hardly anything to watch in the summer. The big gap between BGT and The X Factor.. BB will be back. I bet if it does come back after a few years break.. it will have a different format. It will probably be turned more like.. into a game show.

Patrick
18-04-2010, 07:28 PM
CBB Did really well and that got 2 channels to show intrest the minute it ended, imagine if the real series does better than CBB seriously channels will be fighting for it.

Beastie
18-04-2010, 07:33 PM
CBB Did really well and that got 2 channels to show intrest the minute it ended, imagine if the real series does better than CBB seriously channels will be fighting for it.

Well bb7 had good ratings and then after that series people lost interest because it was full of stupid people in bb8 and no one took it seriously.

Maybe for bb11 you can't be a housemate unless you have at least an AVERAGE IQ. Okay you may think this sounds "snobby" but.. it is a change to a lot of the "stupid" housemates we usually get! We have thrived on stupidity long enough.

Tom4784
18-04-2010, 07:33 PM
CBB is the only real chance it has of continuing and even then if a lesser channel picks it up it'll bomb as the last series only did so well because it had recognisable celebs in it.

At the end of the day how many shows in the past ten years have been saved after being axed? Considering a lot more successful shows have come and gone it doesn't bode well. Oh, and Family Guy had a huge campaign behind it so that doesn't count. Most likely it'll come back in a fair few years time.

If C4's replacement programming does well next year though you can probably kiss BB goodbye.

Beastie
18-04-2010, 07:35 PM
CBB is the only real chance it has of continuing and even then if a lesser channel picks it up it'll bomb as the last series only did so well because it had recognisable celebs in it.

At the end of the day how many shows in the past ten years have been saved after being axed? Considering a lot more successful shows have come and gone it doesn't bode well. Oh, and Family Guy had a huge campaign behind it so that doesn't count. Most likely it'll come back in a fair few years time, If C4's replacement programming does well next year you can probably kiss BB goodbye.

This. My guess is though channel 4's replacement programming will not be a success. It will be bog off niche market shows I am guessing with a lot of old tv shows on repeat. Next year when BB is not on people will be complaining that there is "nothing to watch".

Patrick
18-04-2010, 07:38 PM
Well bb7 had good ratings and then after that series people lost interest because it was full of stupid people in bb8 and no one took it seriously.



The only reason BB8 was **** and everybody turned off was because of CBB5 and thats the reason tbh.

BB8 had potential but once the producers seen that no one gave a **** about it they just cba doing any good twist or task and it was a mess.

Thank fully the CBB in between BB10 and BB11 didnt cause a race row and was one of the most watched Series in a long time so it does give BB11's launch a head start in the ratings.

30stone
18-04-2010, 07:40 PM
It would do better on other channels imo.

Not many people watch channel 4 as it is, bbc 1 bbc 2 and itv have much bigger audiences..

BBitterLemons
18-04-2010, 07:44 PM
But the problem is that 2-3 million viewers isn't enough for the terrestial channels. The only realistic aspect is possibly Channel 5 but then they have a lower viewership then C4 so it wouldn't last long there either. The problem is that the format peaked a few BB's back and a survivor-esque format like the US version probably wouldn't take here as there's been plenty of shows that have tried a similar format and failed.

It COULD come back in fair few years time but I don't see it happening, the intrigue has gone, people are over this type of reality TV. There's only really I'm a Celeb left and I can see that being axed sooner rather then later. Reality TV's all about Talent competitions now. BB-esque shows have had their day.

Lol? Are you familiar with tv production?

A long running tv show at 2-3+ million viewers is not bad figures. It is bad figures in comparison to what they once achieved but in television broadcast terms it is not.

Especially for an ex-niche tv channel like C4.

Beastie
18-04-2010, 07:44 PM
The only reason BB8 was **** and everybody turned off was because of CBB5 and thats the reason tbh.

BB8 had potential but once the producers seen that no one gave a **** about it they just cba doing any good twist or task and it was a mess.

Thank fully the CBB in between BB10 and BB11 didnt cause a race row and was one of the most watched Series in a long time so it does give BB11's launch a head start in the ratings.

Yeah suppose your right. Depending what happened in the CBB series dictates how popular the summer BB will be! Therefore with another Sunday night launch , a good mix of interesting, entertaining, intelligent (and eccentric) housemates then hopefully quite a few people will be drawn in. There needs to be a good launch night twist too!

I think putting ex BB housemates in will be the last nail in the coffin for BB. A BIG mistake. I hope for the sake of the show, it doesn't happen. Yes they can pop in to do a task, pop on BBLB and BBBM but in no way hozay of being a bb11 housemate and eligible to win the 100 thousand pound cheque.

Tom4784
18-04-2010, 07:45 PM
It would do better on other channels imo.

Not many people watch channel 4 as it is, bbc 1 bbc 2 and itv have much bigger audiences..

They'd laugh at the ratings BB gets though. None of the major channels would touch it.

BBitterLemons
18-04-2010, 07:49 PM
Awww who is the 30stone cutie?

BBitterLemons
18-04-2010, 07:50 PM
They'd laugh at the ratings BB gets though. None of the major channels would touch it.

ROFL? Babes, don't ever venture into tv production.. you wouldn't do well :P

Clueless babe, clueless :P

Beastie
18-04-2010, 07:50 PM
Awww who is the 30stone cutie?

The one and only Big Ben!

BBitterLemons
18-04-2010, 07:53 PM
The one and only Big Ben!

A regular here or something? I've never seen him!

Tom4784
18-04-2010, 08:00 PM
ROFL? Babes, don't ever venture into tv production.. you wouldn't do well :P

Clueless babe, clueless :P

You must be deluded to think that ITV or BBC would buy the rights to BB if all it can manage is 2-3 million a show. If I remember correctly BBC1 and ITV average 4-5 million most nights (and that's if something like BGT,XF and the football isn't on). They just wouldn't donate the time or resources to those viewer figures. In the case of ITV it's summer schedules are already full up with stuff like BGT and the start of X-Factor which are already safe and solid bets for the channel.

Also when you consider that shows like The Bill have been cancelled for falling under 4 million viewers, it just makes it impossible for BB to be picked up.

Clueless Babe, Clueless.

Harry!
18-04-2010, 08:04 PM
The only reason BB8 was **** and everybody turned off was because of CBB5 and thats the reason tbh.

BB8 had potential but once the producers seen that no one gave a **** about it they just cba doing any good twist or task and it was a mess.

Thank fully the CBB in between BB10 and BB11 didnt cause a race row and was one of the most watched Series in a long time so it does give BB11's launch a head start in the ratings.

Patrick there was great people in BB8 and the series was good. It was just a 'safe' series after the infamous CBB5.

BBitterLemons
18-04-2010, 08:10 PM
You must be deluded to think that ITV or BBC would buy the rights to BB if all it can manage is 2-3 million a show. If I remember correctly BBC1 and ITV average 4-5 million most nights (and that's if something like BGT,XF and the football isn't on). They just wouldn't donate the time or resources to those viewer figures. In the case of ITV it's summer schedules are already full up with stuff like BGT and the start of X-Factor which are already safe and solid bets for the channel.

Also when you consider that shows like The Bill have been cancelled for falling under 4 million viewers, it just mades it impossible for BB to be picked up.

Clueless Babe, Clueless.

I didn't say that exactly... I was talking about a show's ratings. You're probably quite right in saying they wouldn't touch BB but thats not only down to ratings, its down to the nature of the show and the stigma it carries.

Period production rules do not apply to regular production. I don't mean to be rude but you're only speculating not speaking in facts(albeit with logic, I can see why you think the way you do) I know what I know because Daddy works in television.

He's already told me his channel won't be picking it up and gave me reasons why, I won't lie and say ratings aren't an issue but thats really only a microdot in the grand scheme of their decision.

So clueless? Nah. I only deal in facts, that way my statements are always beyond reproach. Silly baba.

BBitterLemons
18-04-2010, 08:14 PM
Don't bother debating if you can't deal in facts.

Patrick
18-04-2010, 08:18 PM
Patrick there was great people in BB8 and the series was good. It was just a 'safe' series after the infamous CBB5.

Yeah thats what I mean, the people arent bad and Samanda,Ziggy and Brian ammused me but Big Brother himself and the public didnt give it attention because of what happened before like you said.

Had CBB5 been diffrent, BB8 would of got more attention, then BB9 and followed by BB10 and BB wouldnt be in the position it is now.

Beastie
18-04-2010, 08:25 PM
A regular here or something? I've never seen him!

Yep. Ben is a regular and a mod! :)

Beastie
18-04-2010, 08:26 PM
Yeah thats what I mean, the people arent bad and Samanda,Ziggy and Brian ammused me but Big Brother himself and the public didnt give it attention because of what happened before like you said.

Had CBB5 been diffrent, BB8 would of got more attention, then BB9 and followed by BB10 and BB wouldnt be in the position it is now.

Kara Louise was sweet. She should have been in the final.

Tom4784
18-04-2010, 08:27 PM
I didn't say that exactly... I was talking about a show's ratings. You're probably quite right in saying they wouldn't touch BB but thats not only down to ratings, its down to the nature of the show and the stigma it carries.

Period production rules do not apply to regular production. I don't mean to be rude but you're only speculating not speaking in facts(albeit with logic, I can see why you think the way you do) I know what I know because Daddy works in television.

He's already told me his channel won't be picking it up and gave me reasons why, I won't lie and say ratings aren't an issue but thats really only a microdot in the grand scheme of their decision.

So clueless? Nah. I only deal in facts, that way my statements are always beyond reproach. Silly baba.

I doubt ratings are only a 'microdot'. Ratings bring in advertisers and advertisers bring in the money. Simple as that. The only way I could see them doing BB is if they change the format to the BBUS style, that way it's not on nightly and it doesn't impact the schedules as much. But even then why go to the bother when BBC and ITV already have franchises that already get millions more viewers without the risk.

I know the differences between Regular and period production, but it doesn't change anything really. Neither channel has the time to show it as both has more successful series and it's just not worth the risk.

The stigma's a good point especially with BBC, but the thing is failing shows just don't get saved. With the exception of Family Guy I don't think anything has been recommisioned after it's been cancelled in the past ten years. It MIGHT come back in a few years time like how some 80's/90's shows have been brought back recently (Krypton Factor, V, Survivors etc).

I can't see BB coming back for a number of years though and even then I can see it being a different beast to how we know it now. Speculation is ALL we have, I never present my opinion as fact but to me it doesn't make much sense for ITV or BBC to take it on when they've got stacks of better performing shows already.

keithafc
18-04-2010, 10:21 PM
What needs to happen to Big Brother is simple.

Get this series out of the way, make it a great series with fantastic house mates and INTERESTING house mates. Hope the ratings are very good and then just leave the show.

Wait 2-3 years and then see the demand for it. At the end of the day, what will JUDGE how good BB is and how important it is for channel 4 is when they don't have it on TV and then we will see. Will they get good ratings during the summer? Will the channel suffer? Will people stop watching channel 4 because of the reason to axe BB?

These are all important questions which can't be answered now.

What do i think? I think they will make a HUGE mistake in axeing it. Trust me when i say this, Channel 4 is a **** channel without BB being on in the summer. What will they have to show during the summer months without it? They haven't thought of this.

keithafc
18-04-2010, 10:24 PM
Yeah thats what I mean, the people arent bad and Samanda,Ziggy and Brian ammused me but Big Brother himself and the public didnt give it attention because of what happened before like you said.

Had CBB5 been diffrent, BB8 would of got more attention, then BB9 and followed by BB10 and BB wouldnt be in the position it is now.
The whole racist row has really put a dent into BB. Shilpa, Jade and so on, it was a complete mess and it went too far.

Too many people complained over what really was petty stuff. The whole thing seemed to stem from the actual argument between Jade and Shilpa but some of the most nasty remarks actually came from Jo and Daniele.

Stephanie
18-04-2010, 11:09 PM
no :(

Stephanie
18-04-2010, 11:17 PM
i mean, yeah deffo :D

Zippy
19-04-2010, 12:14 AM
No, yeah, no, but, yeah but...

It can survive but will never be the big force it once was. The media dont take much interest in it anymore. I dont see that improving because the whole notion of being a BB contestant has now become a laughing stock, a sign of desperation...the ultimate Z-lister.

No way back from that. But it could plod along and die a very slow death if picked up elsewhere.

Glenn.
19-04-2010, 12:19 AM
Another channel wouldnt be able to give it the scheduled time it needs. We're talking about a daily hour show, something most channels havent got the space for.
I dont think we are going to see BB on another channel in the near future.

Niamh.
20-04-2010, 10:23 AM
I think changing it to another channel and giving it a re vamp would work wonders for it

Niamh.
20-04-2010, 10:24 AM
Another channel wouldnt be able to give it the scheduled time it needs. We're talking about a daily hour show, something most channels havent got the space for.
I dont think we are going to see BB on another channel in the near future.

ITV 2 could do that