> Karma <

[Jords]

Not the + / - malarky that was on here, but karma in terms of 'what goes around, comes around'.

Do you believe that bad people will eventually get whats coming to them and good people will get good things happen in time? Any examples you've witnessed of it?

:)

[Raph]

Nope.
Seems to me more that bad things happen to good people. :/
That's what I love about BB though, how a 'good' person is shown some justice.

[Smithy]

Yep, I think I do,
The story's pretty long, so to cut the crap, he died :P

[Raph]

Also, seems as though mean people get further in life tbh :$

[Raph]

ahaha at your post, Smithy. :laugh3:

[Stu]

Bad things are bound to happen to everyone. People then twist this into being some spiritual 'karma'.

[Jords]

Bad things are bound to happen to everyone. People then twist this into being some spiritual 'karma'.

Oh I know good/bad things are bound to happen to everybody, but Im talking about in equal amounts, if youve done something/s bad at like 7/10 on the 'bad' scale lets say, do you think something/s worth 7/10 bad would happen back to them?

I believe in it, I think given time, bad is repaid and good is rewarded. And that if youve done something bad, you can do something good to balance it out.

[Patrick]

Yep, I think I do,
The story's pretty long, so to cut the crap, he died :P

PMSL :joker:

[Stu]

Oh I know good/bad things are bound to happen to everybody, but Im talking about in equal amounts, if youve done something/s bad at like 7/10 on the 'bad' scale lets say, do you think something/s worth 7/10 bad would happen back to them?

I believe in it, I think given time, bad is repaid and good is rewarded. And that if youve done something bad, you can do something good to balance it out.
Why do you believe in it? It's basically just something people have invented in their heads. There is no empirical evidence whatsoever to suggest that bad things happen back in equal amounts to bad people, it's just an idea that looks cool so people believe in it.

[Shasown]

Karma doesnt work like that, good things happen to bad people and bad things happen to good. Karma comes in very rarely in the current life. The lady Karma repays into the next life.

Personally I like to give her a hand.

[InOne]

Karma does not exist. Just like God doesn't. There is no special forces controlling anything in your life. If you think back to all the decisions you've ever made, they all relate to something practical. So in a way, it could be said our choices are pre-determined, but not by god or anything like that.

[Jords]

Why do you believe in it? It's basically just something people have invented in their heads. There is no empirical evidence whatsoever to suggest that bad things happen back in equal amounts to bad people, it's just an idea that looks cool so people believe in it.

I dont think everything needs evidence and has to be proven right or wrong myself. There is no point just accepting spoon fed facts and not allowing yourself to just believe in something you either like the idea of or could see it as an actual possibilty because there is no hard evidence? It is a belief, you either agree or disagree, there may not be 'proof' to support it, but there is also no proof to go against it - yet. But anyhow Ive seen a few cases in my life where I think Karma has had its way and thats why I believe in such thing. :)

[Stu]

I dont think everything needs evidence and has to be proven right or wrong myself. There is no point just accepting spoon fed facts and not allowing yourself to just believe in something you either like the idea of or could see it as an actual possibilty because there is no hard evidence? It is a belief, you either agree or disagree, there may not be 'proof' to support it, but there is also no proof to go against it - yet. But anyhow Ive seen a few cases in my life where I think Karma has had its way and thats why I believe in such thing. :)
Oh my good god. Where do I begin?

First of all knowing that Karma is a false concept is not being 'spoon fed facts', it's just a fact.

Yes, hard evidence is important if you want to buy into an idea. Unless your some sort of moron who wants to give themselves carte blanche to believe in virtually anything. I believe in Batman. There.

No, Karma is not a 'belief' you can either agree or disagree with. It's just a false concept. Good and bad things happen to good and bad people in unequal amounts. It's the way the world works.

Yes, there is no proof to support it. Yes, there is proof to suggest it is a false concept. Scientists do conduct experiments and tests from time to time you know. It's there job. Just like they have debunked prayer, there is no empirical evidence to suggest a karmic universe.

So what cases in your life have led you to believe in karma? Because you drew the link between bad things happening to bad people? That's because bad things always happen to everybody if your paying attention to them. I'm sure your evidence is not exactly logistically coherent.

Unless of course you were following a select group of people whose paths have crossed, simultaneously following all of them throughout their daily routines and logging in some cosmic ****ing notepad the time and details of all their fortunes and misfortunes.

No?

[Niamh.]

I believe in Karma of sorts. If people do bad things then bad things are more likely to happen to those people because people wont like them very much and will be less inclined to help them if they get into trouble and need some help and vice versa, more of a, you reap what you sow than Karma I suppose.

[Shaun]

No.

[Jords]

Why do you feel the need to force your opinion onto somebody if they do not think the same as you in such a patronising way Stu?

I think I kinda get the fact you dont believe in anything if there is no evidence, and although that could be seen as a sensible way about things so your not 'let down', I think a bit of belief is healthy. Im not really religious, but I class myself as Agnostic when it comes to debating if there is a God or not for example - because nobody actually knows, I guess Im just more open about possible theories.

[Shaun]

or you're just a wet blanket.

[Niamh.]

Why do you feel the need to force your opinion onto somebody if they do not think the same as you in such a patronising way Stu?

I think I kinda get the fact you dont believe in anything if there is no evidence, and although that could be seen as a sensible way about things so your not 'let down', I think a bit of belief is healthy. Im not really religious, but I class myself as Agnostic when it comes to debating if there is a God or not for example - because nobody actually knows, I guess Im just more open about possible theories.

I feel the same way as you Jordy

[Stu]

Why do you feel the need to force your opinion onto somebody if they do not think the same as you in such a patronising way Stu?

I think I kinda get the fact you dont believe in anything if there is no evidence, and although that could be seen as a sensible way about things so your not 'let down', I think a bit of belief is healthy. Im not really religious, but I class myself as Agnostic when it comes to debating if there is a God or not for example - because nobody actually knows, I guess Im just more open about possible theories.
Because it's not an opinion. That I find patronising. The fact that you want to degenerate a factual statement with no either or into just 'an opinion'. You make it sound like we have some sort of choice whether or not to believe in karma when we don't. At least not a real, viable choice. It's about the same choice as we have whether or not we want to believe the government is putting microphones in the walls and cameras in your shitter. Nil choice. Sure, you can believe in it if your slap happy, but it's not actually happening in the real world.

I never quiet understood where these belief arguments come from. As if belief is some healthy, enriching thing. It's the abandonment of reason in favour of a mind numbing, comforting 'magic' view of the world.

Belief should also indicate a plausible choice. Like you can't prove something either way. But we can prove karma is bollocks. So I'm not really sure what hope you are beliving in.

[Jords]

or you're just a wet blanket.

Your stupid digs are pathetic Shaun!

I feel the same way as you Jordy

Yeah I remember you telling me about being agnostic as I didnt know the word for what I was. :)


Bleh, focus on the subject of Karma and not why I think there is such thing please.

[Niamh.]

Because it's not an opinion. That I find patronising. The fact that you want to degenerate a factual statement with no either or into just 'an opinion'. You make it sound like we have some sort of choice whether or not to believe in karma when we don't. At least not a real, viable choice. It's about the same choice as we have whether or not we want to believe the government is putting microphones in the walls and cameras in your shitter. Nil choice. Sure, you can believe in it if your slap happy, but it's not happening.

I never quiet understand where these belief arguments come from. As if belief is some healthy, enriching thing. It's the abandonment of reason in favour of a mind numbing, comforting 'magic' view of the world.

Belief should also indicate a plausible choice. Like you can't prove something either way. But we can prove karma is bollocks. So I'm not really sure what hope you are beliving in.

For me the belief argument is vailidated because science only goes back so far, the bang bang theory is grand but where did the things that banged come from, where did the very first piece of matter or whatever the term is come from?

[Stu]

For me the belief argument is vailidated because science only goes back so far, the bang bang theory is grand but where did the things that banged come from, where did the very first piece of matter or whatever the term is come from?
Well that's a whole kettle of fish, but just because science has not discovered somehting yet is no reason abandon it in favour of wild theorys that have already been disproven by other branches of science.

That tired creator argument you posed is smashed with the inevitable follow up question of who created the creator. That's it.

http://rationalwiki.com/wiki/The_Big_Bang_Theory

Interesting read, right there.

[Niamh.]

Well that's a whole kettle of fish, but just because science has not discovered somehting yet is no reason abandon it in favour of wild theorys that have already been disproven by other branches of science.

That tired creator argument you posed is smashed with the inevitable follow up question of who created the creator. That's it.

http://rationalwiki.com/wiki/The_Big_Bang_Theory

Interesting read, right there.

tbh I dont have any creator arguments at all Stu, this is why I would consider myself agnostic because I don't know either way, nobody does really

[Stu]

tbh I dont have any creator arguments at all Stu, this is why I would consider myself agnostic because I don't know either way, nobody does really
Questioning where the first elements of matter came from was the creator argument I was reffering to.

[Angus]

Karma does not exist. Just like God doesn't. There is no special forces controlling anything in your life. If you think back to all the decisions you've ever made, they all relate to something practical. So in a way, it could be said our choices are pre-determined, but not by god or anything like that.

I would be interested to know of what evidence you have that God does NOT exist. Down all the centuries since time immemorial nobody has definitively proved OR disproved the existence of God.

[Niamh.]

Questioning where the first elements of matter came from was the creator argument I was reffering to.

it wasn't really my argument is what I mean, I just meant by it that because nobody really knows where they came from then I can understand why some people could believe it. I personally don't know either way.

[InOne]

I would be interested to know of what evidence you have that God does NOT exist. Down all the centuries since time immemorial nobody has definitively proved OR disproved the existence of God.

Angus, i'd rather not pray blindly, put all my hopes and dreams in to something that may or may not exist. That seems illogical does it not? And don't bother trying to throw Pascal's Wager at me.

[Niamh.]

I would be interested to know of what evidence you have that God does NOT exist. Down all the centuries since time immemorial nobody has definitively proved OR disproved the existence of God.

Yes, that's what I (badly) was trying to say Stu ^^^ sorry for stealing your far more understandable post angus hehe

[Angus]

Angus, i'd rather not pray blindly, put all my hopes and dreams in to something that may or may not exist. That seems illogical does it not? And don't bother trying to throw Pascal's Wager at me.

I wouldn't presume to do so, but personally I would take it, being the pragmatist that I am.

[InOne]

I wouldn't presume to do so, but personally I would take it, being the pragmatist that I am.

Well what if you picked the wrong god? :tongue:

[Angus]

Well what if you picked the wrong god? :tongue:


I've never been a fan of the concept of polytheism - it makes little sense to me to delegate creation to a myriad assortment of individual gods of this and gods of that. Logic dictates there is always someone (or something) ultimately in charge!

[Shasown]

Well what if you picked the wrong god? :tongue:

Why does there have to be a wrong and a right to belief? Maybe "god" doesnt care anyway.

[Angus]

[QUOTE=Stu;3188621]It's not up to us to prove a negative. Think of Russell's teapot. You could believe like a muppet in virtually anything and defend it using that abysmal argument. Can you disprove that space wolves sporting AK-47's are orbiting Pluto on the back of Cheetahs?


I beg to differ. If you are going to categorically deny the existence of God then you MUST come up with some convincing evidence for that stance. That is the nature of science. It is not enough just to say "I don't believe". I am entitled to ask you "why?" Or perhaps you just have FAITH that there is no god, in which case you are in the same boat as those that believe there most definitely IS a God. If so, just say so, but please do not put forward your personal opinion of the non existence of God as if it is a fact, when it is not backed up by any definitive evidence.

[InOne]

I've never been a fan of the concept of polytheism - it makes little sense to me to delegate creation to a myriad assortment of individual gods of this and gods of that. Logic dictates there is always someone (or something) ultimately in charge!
Monotheism is not anymore logical than polytheism.

Why does there have to be a wrong and a right to belief? Maybe "god" doesnt care anyway.

Because the basis of most religions is that their God is the truth. It's just facts, not wrong or right.

[Stu]

[QUOTE=Stu;3188621]It's not up to us to prove a negative. Think of Russell's teapot. You could believe like a muppet in virtually anything and defend it using that abysmal argument. Can you disprove that space wolves sporting AK-47's are orbiting Pluto on the back of Cheetahs?


I beg to differ. If you are going to categorically deny the existence of God then you MUST come up with some convincing evidence for that stance. That is the nature of science. It is not enough just to say "I don't believe". I am entitled to ask you "why?" Or perhaps you just have FAITH that there is no god, in which case you are in the same boat as those that believe there most definitely IS a God. If so, just say so, but please do not put forward your personal opinion of the non existence of God as if it is a fact, when it is not backed up by any definitive evidence.
I don't believe in God but I do believe that a transexual magician named The Sensual Frankie Dynamo , who is invisible, visits me in my dreams from a distant star system.

You can't disprove it lol.

[Angus]

[QUOTE=angus58;3189010]
I don't believe in God but I do believe that a transexual magician named The Sensual Frankie Dynamo , who is invisible, visits me in my dreams from a distant star system.

You can't disprove it lol.

But I don't wish to disprove it since your personal belief does not impact on me in any way, shape or form.

[Stu]

But I don't wish to disprove it since your personal belief does not impact on me in any way, shape or form.
Who needs god when you can dodge bullets like that.

Talk about hair splitting.

[Angus]

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Originally Posted by angus58
I've never been a fan of the concept of polytheism - it makes little sense to me to delegate creation to a myriad assortment of individual gods of this and gods of that. Logic dictates there is always someone (or something) ultimately in charge!

Monotheism is not anymore logical than polytheism.


I did state that it made no sense to ME, since my belief system is irrevocably informed by my background, life experiences, intellect and exposure to other belief systems, so it is inevitable that what makes sense to ME may not necessarily float your boat. It is the nature of human beings to attempt to make sense of the world around them and it is hardly surprising that the infinitessimal amount of variables that affect human thought processes will often result in diametrically opposed viewpoints on every subject under the
sun. Vive la difference!

[InOne]

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Originally Posted by angus58
I've never been a fan of the concept of polytheism - it makes little sense to me to delegate creation to a myriad assortment of individual gods of this and gods of that. Logic dictates there is always someone (or something) ultimately in charge!

Monotheism is not anymore logical than polytheism.


I did state that it made no sense to ME, since my belief system is irrevocably informed by my background, life experiences, intellect and exposure to other belief systems, so it is inevitable that what makes sense to ME may not necessarily float your boat. It is the nature of human beings to attempt to make sense of the world around them and it is hardly surprising that the infinitessimal amount of variables that affect human thought processes will often result in diametrically opposed viewpoints on every subject under the
sun. Vive la difference!

You're a Christian right?

[Angus]

I do not believe in organised religion despite being brought up as a Roman Catholic and I see no point in rituals, ceremonies, or a clerical hierarchy which puts other men in the way of my commune with God (if there is one). I suppose you could say I live my life according to one principle "Do unto others as you would be done by" which I think just about covers all bases. This principle is not unique to Christianity, so I would answer that I tend to favour the concept of there being a God, but I am not a Christian per se.

[InOne]

Ahhh right, fair enough.

[Jords]

Karma needs to bite where it hurts to some members on here, seriously, they do not have a clue.

- leaves -

[Stu]

Karma needs to bite where it hurts to some members on here, seriously, they do not have a clue.

- leaves -
What an excellent, coherent reply to the arguments posted.

I'm sorry, but I can't help but sound pretentious when I'm talking to someone like you. Continue on in sunshine land where everyone is of equal intelligence.

[Shasown]

What an excellent, coherent reply to the arguments posted.

I'm sorry, but I can't help but sound pretentious when I'm talking to someone like you. Continue on in sunshine land where everyone is of equal intelligence.

Stu are you by any chance saying that there may be people of very low intelligence on this site?

[Angus]

Who needs god when you can dodge bullets like that.

Talk about hair splitting.

No it is you who are being disingenuous since the existence of a transexual magician named The Sensual Frankie Dynamo who is invisible is not of interest or concern to the billions on this planet since you, and only you,(so far as we are aware) are the recipient of his nocturnal visits (though I wonder how you know, since he is invisible?).

Whereas the existence or not of God has been, is, and will probably continue to be the most debated philosophical conundrum on the planet.

[30stone]

My gosh, is there one thread on this forum today where arguments dont start??!

[Stu]

Stu are you by any chance saying that there may be people of very low intelligence on this site?
:wink:
No it is you who are being disingenuous since the existence of a transexual magician named The Sensual Frankie Dynamo who is invisible is not of interest or concern to the billions on this planet since you, and only you,(so far as we are aware) are the recipient of his nocturnal visits (though I wonder how you know, since he is invisible?).

Whereas the existence or not of God has been, is, and will probably continue to be the most debated philosophical conundrum on the planet.
Nothing to do with anything. The popularity of God versus Frankie has nothing to do with validity as a theory. Their is an equal lack of proof against the existence of both. Basically, you could make up an infinite number of absurd ideas in your head that would be suject to this appaling 'well there is no proof it doesn't exist lol!'.

[Shasown]

My gosh, is there one thread on this forum today where arguments dont start??!

None if it is real, all the arguments are simply to keep the staff on their toes.

Call it a Staff Training Exercise to get you back up to speed for when BB11 starts.

Its been carefully orchestrated to get the best out of you.

[Lucy.]

How does every thread on this forum result in arguements :O
I thought opinions wern't meant to cause conflict Lmao.
But anyway - I don't believe in Karma, it justs makes no sense to me.
Like if it was true surely good people would have everything turn out right for them
and vice versa but it just doesn't seem to work like that.

[Niamh.]

My gosh, is there one thread on this forum today where arguments dont start??!

***** you!:hugesmile:

[Shasown]

***** you!:hugesmile:

The best reply of the day, PM James for your prize.

[Niamh.]

The best reply of the day, PM James for your prize.

YAY! a million dollars?:dance:

[InOne]

I do not believe in organised religion despite being brought up as a Roman Catholic and I see no point in rituals, ceremonies, or a clerical hierarchy which puts other men in the way of my commune with God (if there is one). I suppose you could say I live my life according to one principle "Do unto others as you would be done by" which I think just about covers all bases. This principle is not unique to Christianity, so I would answer that I tend to favour the concept of there being a God, but I am not a Christian per se.

Why do you feel there needs to be a God?

[Angus]

Why do you feel there needs to be a God?

I wouldn't go so far as to say there needs to be a God, I just lean more towards that viewpoint simply because of inexplicable and, dare I say it, spiritual events I have experienced during my life.

I studied Psychology for my degree, which I found to be a fascinating and multi-faceted discipline although based on the supposition that all human beings can be categorised, stereotyped, pigeon-holed and neatly filed under convenient labels (again the irresistible need for human beings to create order in a chaotic and often pointless existence). However, my unique life experiences have influenced and informed my belief systems, and what is logical and axiomatic to me may not necessarily be viewed as such by someone with different life experiences.

[InOne]

I wouldn't go so far as to say there needs to be a God, I just lean more towards that viewpoint simply because of inexplicable and, dare I say it, spiritual events I have experienced during my life.

I studied Psychology for my degree, which I found to be a fascinating and multi-faceted discipline although based on the supposition that all human beings can be categorised, stereotyped, pigeon-holed and neatly filed under convenient labels (again the irresistible need for human beings to create order in a chaotic and often pointless existence). However, my unique life experiences have influenced and informed my belief systems, and what is logical and axiomatic to me may not necessarily be viewed as such by someone with different life experiences.

Ahhhh right, well I guess you can't go against personal experience. I guess living by the golden rule is all you really need. Shame not a lot of people follow it though.

[Jessica.]

ppffffft

[Novo]

^ Ban

[Stephanie]

This thread is jokes.

[Jords]

ppffffft

Youre such a child Jess.

I remember this thread, it was pmt I swear. :love:

[Jack_]

What a constructive bump :joker:

[Ninastar]

yesterday or the day before, when I went to leeds I laughed at this girl who had a pigeon fly like, in her face then it happened to me like not even a minute later :(

[Stacey.]

I love karma.

[MissKittyFantastico]

No, I don't believe in karma, I used to kid myself that people who are basically assholes will get their comeuppance at some point but it really doesn't work like that.

[Jessica.]

No, I don't believe in karma, I used to kid myself that people who are basically assholes will get their comeuppance at some point but it really doesn't work like that.

:thumbs:

[zotler.]

Youre such a child Jess.

I remember this thread, it was pmt I swear. :love:

PMT? :conf:

[Jords]

All 3 here now.

http://static.tvguide.com/MediaBin/Galleries/Shows/M_R/Pi_Pp/powerpuffGirls/crops/powerpuff-girls7.jpg

[zotler.]

Fine, don't tell me what PMT means. :( *Urban Dictionary*

[MissKittyFantastico]

All 3 here now.

http://static.tvguide.com/MediaBin/Galleries/Shows/M_R/Pi_Pp/powerpuffGirls/crops/powerpuff-girls7.jpg

Excuse me? :conf:

[Jords]

Excuse me? :conf:

Jess, Steph and Zoe.

[zotler.]

O_o you had Premenstrual Tension? Or you were doing something with weed, or you were drinking tea, or you had a heavy pub lunch? (WTF some weird stuff on UD)

[Stephanie]

Powerpuff Girls?

[MissKittyFantastico]

Jess, Steph and Zoe.

I can't keep up with you lot.

[Jessica.]

phailz

[Stacey.]

I remember when I asked you and Zoe, Jords what would happen if you ever fell out with her. And you were like we wouldn't fall out. Pmsl, I swear you all change your opinions of each other daily.

[zotler.]

Stef, you're the one with the green eyes, kk.

[zotler.]

I remember when I asked you and Zoe, Jords what would happen if you ever fell out with her. And you were like we wouldn't fall out. Pmsl, I swear you all change your opinions of each other daily.

I haven't fallen out with Jords. :nono:

[Novo]

All 3 here now.

http://static.tvguide.com/MediaBin/Galleries/Shows/M_R/Pi_Pp/powerpuffGirls/crops/powerpuff-girls7.jpg

Brilliant :joker:

http://www.mannythemovieguy.com/images/teenage_mutant_ninja_turtles_origins.jpg


Don't worry we have it covered. Locke and Jack are on their way

[Stephanie]

I remember when I asked you and Zoe, Jords what would happen if you ever fell out with her. And you were like we wouldn't fall out. Pmsl, I swear you all change your opinions of each other daily.
Before today, I hadn't had contact with him in weeks.. so yeah..

[Jessica.]

I remember when I asked you and Zoe, Jords what would happen if you ever fell out with her. And you were like we wouldn't fall out. Pmsl, I swear you all change your opinions of each other daily.

It's been weeks and don't get involved.

[Patrick]

Nope.
Seems to me more that bad things happen to good people. :/


This.

[Stacey.]

LOL at all three of you quoting me in like exactly the same minute.

[zotler.]

-_- I keep spluttering Pepsi all over my monitor.

[zotler.]

7. PMT 13 up, 38 down
buy pmt mugs, tshirts and magnets
Post Meal Tiredness - often experienced after a heavy pub lunch.
Man, I got some serious PMT.

This makes me LOL.

[Stephanie]

LOL at all three of you quoting me in like exactly the same minute.
What's so LOL about that? We're all quick typers, in the same thread :conf:

[Jessica.]

Stef, you're the one with the green eyes, kk.

You're the ginger

[zotler.]

You're the ginger
Don't make me zap you with my gingerness. I DIDN'T WANT TO TURN GINGER!111 :bawling:

[Stacey.]

What's so LOL about that? We're all quick typers, in the same thread :conf:

Dunno it's just funny.

[Jessica.]

Don't make me zap you with my gingerness. I DIDN'T WANT TO TURN GINGER!111 :bawling:

:joker:

[BB_Eye]

I believe that actions have consequences so I think we have a lot to learn from the idea of karma in some respects, especially in the buddhist tradition.

The Western Christian interpretation of karma -the idea that bad people get their comeuppance- I find to be a load of rubbish and bears no relation to reality. Besides, it contradicts that old Christian edict that a good deed is done with no expectation of reward. Whether you believe in an afterlife where everything is put right in the end or a metaphysical dimension to our world where ambitious, power-hungry people suffer on a spiritual level (it's lonely at the top as they say), physical life is a Darwinistic absurdity where plenty of people do bad things and get away with it.

[arista]

Not the + / - malarky that was on here, but karma in terms of 'what goes around, comes around'.

Do you believe that bad people will eventually get whats coming to them and good people will get good things happen in time? Any examples you've witnessed of it?

:)



Some Evil Nasty Criminals get the Electric Chair in the USA
but as many Evil Nasty Criminals are not even caught.


So Karma is used as a word that is all.
There is No God
That is a Fact.

[LaLaLand]

Yes I do very much so.

I used to be a quite negative person tbh, always arguing with people, miserable and just generally angry and I never kind of got why I was unhappy alot (I wasn't depressed or bullied or anything like that, just not a very nice person).

Then one day I just kind of woke up and thought "life's too short" and decided to change my ways. I was generally more upbeat and felt better in myself for it and eventually got to realise that because I felt more positive that I GOT positive results - I now have the best friends I could possible ask for, I passed my A Levels with my wanted grades and am starting university in September - generally loving life.

So for me, Karma is more of a kind of mental or "energy" thing rather than purposely going out and doing good things to get good things yourself ("My Name Is Earl").

BUT saying that I do believe that if you do very, very bad things that in some shape or form you WILL get some sort of backlash, how small or big it may be.

I'm actually planning to get the word "Karma" tattoo'd in a few weeks on my wrist because I basically have all of my current successes thanks to Karma.

[Nicky.]

I'm starting to.

Something happened, and since then it's been like :|. :(

Regrets.

[GypsyGoth]

I think there is something like Karma, but it is within us, and not some external force, if that makes sense.

[Niamh.]

Yes I do very much so.

I used to be a quite negative person tbh, always arguing with people, miserable and just generally angry and I never kind of got why I was unhappy alot (I wasn't depressed or bullied or anything like that, just not a very nice person).

Then one day I just kind of woke up and thought "life's too short" and decided to change my ways. I was generally more upbeat and felt better in myself for it and eventually got to realise that because I felt more positive that I GOT positive results - I now have the best friends I could possible ask for, I passed my A Levels with my wanted grades and am starting university in September - generally loving life.

So for me, Karma is more of a kind of mental or "energy" thing rather than purposely going out and doing good things to get good things yourself ("My Name Is Earl").

BUT saying that I do believe that if you do very, very bad things that in some shape or form you WILL get some sort of backlash, how small or big it may be.

I'm actually planning to get the word "Karma" tattoo'd in a few weeks on my wrist because I basically have all of my current successes thanks to Karma.

I think this as well, more of an energy thing.