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arista
28-04-2010, 11:18 AM
Sky News Live

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2010/04/28/article-1269486-0956E49A000005DC-137_468x286.jpg


http://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/Politics/Gordon-Brown-Caught-Out-Calling-A-Woman-A-Bigot/Article/201004415621596?lpos=Politics_Carousel_Region_0&lid=ARTICLE_15621596_Gordon_Brown_Caught_Out_Calli ng_A_Woman_A_Bigot



{However, a microphone picked up his words to an aide as he drove away in a car.
PM Brown: "That was a disaster.
"You should never have put me with that woman.
"Whose idea was that?"
PM Brown went on: "It's just ridiculous."
His aide then asked: "What did she say?"
PM Brown replied: "Oh, everything,
she's just a sort of bigoted woman
who said she used to vote Labour."}


The Prime Minister had been chatting
to the woman about her pension credit,
crime, education, as well as immigration, before the gaffe

Also on BBC News

One Eyed Scottish Brown
tells his PR on a Mic 'thats a Disaster'
'You should Never - had put with that Woman'


His Mic was still turned on.



He was Angry at metting a Public Woman.


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/election/article-1269486/General-Election-2010-Gordon-Brown-caught-describing-voter-bigoted-woman-unguarded-remarks.html




Vote This No good UnElected PM Out.

WOMBAI
28-04-2010, 11:29 AM
I very much suspect - any of the others would have said the same!

arista
28-04-2010, 11:33 AM
I very much suspect - any of the others would have said the same!



This shows
how he hates the Real Public.



Get him Out.


One Eyed Scottish Brown
was just played that back on the Jeremy Vine Radio Show Live Radio2
He put his hand over his Eyes as they played it.


He just Rushed out of the BBC Studio at the End
Very fast.

arista
28-04-2010, 11:57 AM
This has Snowballed
it will be on Every News.


It shows how Stinking Two Faced
One Eyed Scottish Brown Is.
The Real Brown hates English People.



Now on BBC1 One O'Clock News.

sooty
28-04-2010, 12:05 PM
I very much suspect - any of the others would have said the same!

No~~ only Brown would have said it.
Coward man.:bigsmile:

arista
28-04-2010, 12:10 PM
No~~ only Brown would have said it.
Coward man.:bigsmile:



Bang On Right.



This Is Proof he will be Kicked Out Of Power.

arista
28-04-2010, 12:15 PM
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2010/04/28/article-1269486-0956E476000005DC-55_468x286.jpg
Prime Minister and Mrs Duffy talk in Rochdale today. Mr Brown's microphone can be seen on his lapel.




Mrs Duffy confirmed
on Sky and BBC News
that she will not now Vote New Labour.



On the Tape He blamed
his Staff member Sue for setting Mrs.Duffy
up to meet him.




This is the Real Stinking One Eyed Scottish Brown.



[Sky's Niall Paterson played the mother of one a recording of the Prime Minister's comments, including his description of her as "bigoted".
She said she was "very disappointed" and added that the PM owed her an apology.
She told Sky News: "It was very upsetting. I am very upset.
"He's an educated person, why is he coming up with words like that?"

Mr Brown has now called Mrs Duffy and apologised for his comment.]

WOMBAI
28-04-2010, 12:28 PM
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2010/04/28/article-1269486-0956E476000005DC-55_468x286.jpg
Prime Minister and Mrs Duffy talk in Rochdale today. Mr Brown's microphone can be seen on his lapel.




Mrs Duffy confirmed
on Sky and BBC News
that she will not now Vote New Labour.



On the Tape He blamed
his Staff member Sue for setting Mrs.Duffy
up to meet him.




This is the Real Stinking One Eyed Scottish Brown.



[Sky's Niall Paterson played the mother of one a recording of the Prime Minister's comments, including his description of her as "bigoted".
She said she was "very disappointed" and added that the PM owed her an apology.
She told Sky News: "It was very upsetting. I am very upset.
"He's an educated person, why is he coming up with words like that?"

Mr Brown has now called Mrs Duffy and apologised for his comment.]

He was the only one CAUGHT passing such remarks - Do you honestly think the others don't say such things about members of the public? That would be incredibly naive!

arista
28-04-2010, 12:34 PM
"Do you honestly think the others "


Of Course
but this is Now WorldWide News
He is The UnElected PM


This Matters so much more.



Now on ITVNews

arista
28-04-2010, 12:47 PM
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2010/04/28/article-1269486-09570A3B000005DC-541_634x286.jpg

On the Jeremy Vine BBC Radio 2 Show
being played back that Nasty Tape of the Real Stinking Brown.

arista
28-04-2010, 12:49 PM
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2010/04/28/article-1269486-0957142F000005DC-72_634x358.jpg
Thanks for coming: PM Brown waves goodbye
as he leaves the Rochdale campaign stop with his microphone still attached
Moments before the World heard the Real PM Brown

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/election/article-1269486/Election-2010-Gordon-Browns-bigotted-woman-insult-Gillian-Duffy.html#ixzz0mOmJBXCZ

Crimson Dynamo
28-04-2010, 01:08 PM
This is typical of New Labour and where we are today

express a view on immigration and the defence is "you are racist"

express a view on homosexual - "you are a homophobe"

rather than debate the reaction is to accuse the other of a being a hater (netto take note)

The lady has a right to her opinion, she does not have 35 aides cluing her up daily, GB mocked her because she did not share his world view.

It showed he IS a bully.


that

is

the

end

of

brown

arista
28-04-2010, 01:15 PM
"It showed he IS a bully."



Bang On Right.

sooty
28-04-2010, 01:16 PM
Others are smarter than him.

I still think Brown is more honest type than Blair or Cameron.
(It does not mean that I support his policies.)
But he has to watch his temper.

Do you think Brown has finished?
I wonder public would feel sorry for him after this publicity and his popularity mighty go up,,,.

Crimson Dynamo
28-04-2010, 01:16 PM
"It showed he IS a bully."



Bang On Right.




Life in Rochdale

WOMBAI
28-04-2010, 01:20 PM
Others are smarter than him.

I still think Brown is more honest type than Blair or Cameron.
(It does not mean that I support his policies.)
But he has to watch his temper.

Do you think Brown has finished?
I wonder public would feel sorry for him after this publicity and his popularity mighty go up,,,.

I think you might have a point there - whereas many will attack him - that will lead to many feeling sorry for him - so may well 'even it out' - or even balance it out in his favour!

BigBrotherfan4ever
28-04-2010, 01:27 PM
I've just been watching this on the news, somehow this doesn't surprise me of Brown, having said that everyone has to let off a bit of steam sometimes.

keithafc
28-04-2010, 01:55 PM
He doesn't have a clue what he is doing. He looks tired and he just needs to be put out of his misery now. I can't believe he is as stupid to say what he did when he had a mic on him. How daft is that?

Then not to mention basically disrespecting a geniune worry for many people in the country and then add on the two face element. Laughable.

arista
28-04-2010, 02:08 PM
He doesn't have a clue what he is doing. He looks tired and he just needs to be put out of his misery now. I can't believe he is as stupid to say what he did when he had a mic on him. How daft is that?

Then not to mention basically disrespecting a geniune worry for many people in the country and then add on the two face element. Laughable.


That Shallow UK UnElected PM
is now in her Home
saying Sorry in Person.
All Cameras outside the Home of Mrs. Duffy.


This Stinks
he is digging a deeper hole.

Mrluvaluva
28-04-2010, 02:11 PM
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Crimson Dynamo
28-04-2010, 02:23 PM
he will be speaking to the press shortly

Listen on Richard Bacon

Mrluvaluva
28-04-2010, 02:24 PM
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Blah

Mrluvaluva
28-04-2010, 02:40 PM
Gillian Duffys' comments.

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arista
28-04-2010, 02:43 PM
One Eyed Scottish Brown
has now left after 40mins inside her home in Private.

Much to long
Leaning on her.


His False Smile.

Get him Out.


The Press & Cameras, even USA Live News cameras
around 66year olds Mrs .Duffys Home
is to much.


The New Labour Press bloke
confirmed Mrs.Duffy will not come out of her home
and can they leave her home.

Crimson Dynamo
28-04-2010, 03:03 PM
a horrible grovelling apology designed to damage limit rather than being sincerely felt.


it so sums up Labour under Mandellson and Brown

Mrluvaluva
28-04-2010, 03:09 PM
His False Smile.



So strained and so obviously false.

keithafc
28-04-2010, 03:13 PM
lol, a joke.

setanta
28-04-2010, 03:13 PM
He's gone and made a right balls of it, hasn't he? Look, we all have moments when we need to let off steam, but this really proves that he's incapable of handling the pressures of being a head of any party, nevermind a cabinet and State. Most seasoned campaigners would have the good sense not to open their traps immediately after something like that, particularly when a mic is still on him. Pure stupidity and a prime example of how he's not built for the stage, and let's be honest, that's what being leader is all about - acting the part.

arista
28-04-2010, 03:37 PM
He's gone and made a right balls of it, hasn't he? Look, we all have moments when we need to let off steam, but this really proves that he's incapable of handling the pressures of being a head of any party, nevermind a cabinet and State. Most seasoned campaigners would have the good sense not to open their traps immediately after something like that, particularly when a mic is still on him. Pure stupidity and a prime example of how he's not built for the stage, and let's be honest, that's what being leader is all about - acting the part.


This is why they do not want Brown
meeting General Public.

They set up special checked people - but no time on this run.

As a UnElected PM
this sums him up
Two Faced

Angus
28-04-2010, 03:37 PM
He's gone and made a right balls of it, hasn't he? Look, we all have moments when we need to let off steam, but this really proves that he's incapable of handling the pressures of being a head of any party, nevermind a cabinet and State. Most seasoned campaigners would have the good sense not to open their traps immediately after something like that, particularly when a mic is still on him. Pure stupidity and a prime example of how he's not built for the stage, and let's be honest, that's what being leader is all about - acting the part.

And yet there are are still idiots on this forum making excuses for him, and who will probably still vote for the bumbling fool. There are even idiots on this forum who still believe the Labour party give a flying ***** for the ordinary working class folk in this country, and who believe every lie that Labour have spun about the other parties. Brown is such an embarrassment, as well as being totally incompetent, but worse of all is that the nation did not elect him as Prime Minister, so he has no damn right even calling himself that. He has cravenly clung onto power despite being the worst PM in living memory. Anyone who really cared about what happens to this country would vote the hypocritical, useless war-mongering b******s out.

setanta
28-04-2010, 03:48 PM
And yet there are are still idiots on this forum making excuses for him, and who will probably still vote for the bumbling fool. There are even idiots on this forum who still believe the Labour party give a flying ***** for the ordinary working class folk in this country, and who believe every lie that Labour have spun about the other parties. Brown is such an embarrassment, as well as being totally incompetent, but worse of all is that the nation did not elect him as Prime Minister, so he has no damn right even calling himself that. He has cravenly clung onto power despite being the worst PM in living memory. Anyone who really cared about what happens to this country would vote the hypocritical, useless war-mongering b******s out.

Ah, now don't be using my comments as an excuse for an all out offensive on Labour; I'm just commenting on this major faux pas which really highlights Brown's degree of inexperience and idiocy when dealing with the cameras when possessing some media savvy is such a fundemental requirement for any political leader in today's age.

WOMBAI
28-04-2010, 04:08 PM
And yet there are are still idiots on this forum making excuses for him, and who will probably still vote for the bumbling fool. There are even idiots on this forum who still believe the Labour party give a flying ***** for the ordinary working class folk in this country, and who believe every lie that Labour have spun about the other parties. Brown is such an embarrassment, as well as being totally incompetent, but worse of all is that the nation did not elect him as Prime Minister, so he has no damn right even calling himself that. He has cravenly clung onto power despite being the worst PM in living memory. Anyone who really cared about what happens to this country would vote the hypocritical, useless war-mongering b******s out.

Although I don't have an allegiance to any particular party or personality in this election - I do feel that your comments suggesting that anyone who doesn't see things your way is an idiot - is rather arrogant to say the least! It is exactly those sort of OTT aggressive opinions - that cause wars in the first place!

Angus
28-04-2010, 04:30 PM
Although I don't have an allegiance to any particular party or personality in this election - I do feel that your comments suggesting that anyone who doesn't see things your way is an idiot - is rather arrogant to say the least! It is exactly those sort of OTT aggressive opinions - that cause wars in the first place!


Arrogant? - Maybe.
P*ssed off at living under the Labour jackboot for 13 years? Definitely. Horrified at the prospect of another 5 years of the lunatics running the asylum? Absolutely.
Shocked by the political ignorance displayed by some on this forum? You bet.
Apologetic? Not at all.

GypsyGoth
28-04-2010, 04:42 PM
That woman doesn't like one-eyed people.

Harry!
28-04-2010, 04:42 PM
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2010/04/28/article-1269486-09570A3B000005DC-541_634x286.jpg



*Facepalm*

WOMBAI
28-04-2010, 04:50 PM
Arrogant? - Maybe.
P*ssed off at living under the Labour jackboot for 13 years? Definitely. Horrified at the prospect of another 5 years of the lunatics running the asylum? Absolutely.
Shocked by the political ignorance displayed by some on this forum? You bet.
Apologetic? Not at all.

Although I do identify with some of your points - I just feel that whatever party get in - there are unlikely to be any signifcant changes made that will hughly improve the lives of the majority of us!

arista
28-04-2010, 05:02 PM
That woman doesn't like one-eyed people.


That does not come into it.



He has Failed as UnElected PM.

Angus
28-04-2010, 05:36 PM
Ah, now don't be using my comments as an excuse for an all out offensive on Labour; I'm just commenting on this major faux pas which really highlights Brown's degree of inexperience and idiocy when dealing with the cameras when possessing some media savvy is such a fundemental requirement for any political leader in today's age.

Unfortunately, when it comes to other people's poor political choices, I am entitled to make my views known (as are they), since the consequences of their actions could actually adversely affect me, my family and my way of life in the most fundamental ways.

BB_Eye
28-04-2010, 05:37 PM
Lol, it was like a scene from the Thick of It.

Angus
28-04-2010, 05:38 PM
Although I do identify with some of your points - I just feel that whatever party get in - there are unlikely to be any signifcant changes made that will hughly improve the lives of the majority of us!

Well at least next week we will have a Prime Minister who the people of this country have elected (whichever party it may be), and not one foisted on us by some shady deal done between Blair and Brown.

AndyJK
28-04-2010, 05:48 PM
If I were a Labour party activist right now Id be very worried.

arista
28-04-2010, 08:18 PM
http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51ay0LeYISL._SS500_.jpg


This Book about Bully Brown
is Bang On Right.

Scarlett.
28-04-2010, 08:30 PM
Funny how people go on about it like its only Gordon Brown who says this kind of thing, its only Brown who has been caught

arista
28-04-2010, 09:17 PM
http://news.sky.com/sky-news/content/StaticFile/jpg/2010/Apr/Week4/15621967.jpg


http://news.sky.com/sky-news/content/StaticFile/jpg/2010/Apr/Week4/15621974.jpg


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30stone
28-04-2010, 09:22 PM
Hes buggered now never gunna win.


Have to say if of said the same thing.. maybe not bigoted but other things..

Hence why im not a politician.

sooty
28-04-2010, 09:23 PM
I have been wondering this afternoon about Brown, Mrs Duffy and Greece.

If he really finished because of this guff, would not it be his lucky escape (from his own mess) after all?

I feel many people would think if they choose the right leader, everything will be all right, well almost, but it is not.
Cameron or Cregg, they have a huge task to clear these debt and have to cut spending sooner or later, then what would happen. Strike like Greece?

The leader will bound to be blamed not Brown.

Mrluvaluva
28-04-2010, 09:25 PM
Have to say if of said the same thing.. maybe not bigoted but other things..



Sorry?

Tom
28-04-2010, 09:31 PM
I think the 'harm' to Labour is being over stated.

ITV just ran a ridiculous story on it.

Mrluvaluva
28-04-2010, 09:33 PM
I think the 'harm' to Labour is being over stated.

ITV just ran a ridiculous story on it.

What was it?

WOMBAI
28-04-2010, 09:33 PM
I have been wondering this afternoon about Brown, Mrs Duffy and Greece.

If he really finished because of this guff, would not it be his lucky escape (from his own mess) after all?

I feel many people would think if they choose the right leader, everything will be all right, well almost, but it is not.
Cameron or Cregg, they have a huge task to clear these debt and have to cut spending sooner or later, then what would happen. Strike like Greece?

The leader will bound to be blamed not Brown.

I think people are kidding themselves if they think anything is going to change under someone else! People need to believe that to see a way forward - but there are unlikely to be any significant changes anytime soon!

Harry!
28-04-2010, 09:34 PM
I really reallly hope we do NOT have Brown for another 5 years. It is evem more sad as I can even vote!

Tom
28-04-2010, 09:34 PM
What was it?

They spent about 10-15 minutes on it, going through all the events in the day. It just seemed daft over a remark to some annoying old gran.

AndyJK
28-04-2010, 09:41 PM
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Tom4784
28-04-2010, 11:51 PM
We don't agree much but I agree with Wombai's point, Brown's no better or worse then the others. The UK won't become any better regardless who wins.

Saying that though I say we give it to Lib Dems, they may have *****ed up when they were in charge last time (I think I remember Shas saying it was World War 1?) but to be fair anyone involved with the party then are probably long dead. It'd be a bit more interesting then another Labour/Tory win anyway because let's face it it doesn't really matter who wins, ***** all will change.

Angus
29-04-2010, 05:20 AM
We don't agree much but I agree with Wombai's point, Brown's no better or worse then the others. The UK won't become any better regardless who wins.

Saying that though I say we give it to Lib Dems, they may have *****ed up when they were in charge last time (I think I remember Shas saying it was World War 1?) but to be fair anyone involved with the party then are probably long dead. It'd be a bit more interesting then another Labour/Tory win anyway because let's face it it doesn't really matter who wins, ***** all will change.


One significant thing WILL change under the Tories and that will be regaining control of our borders. Uncontrolled immigration into this tiny island is the single most important issue that concerns most people whether they even realise it or not. The reason everything in this country is failing so badly is that all our resources are stretched to breaking point and buckling under sheer weight of numbers. Once we have proper immigration controls, this country will not only be more economically viable so far as its limited resources go, but an even more important issue is that the security of the country will be strengthened as we will know who is entering the country and for what reason. Genuine asylum seekers should always be allowed entry, that is a given. However, economic migration MUST be controlled - our social infrastructure is already breaking down.

LibDem's answer to the immigration issue? To give amnesty to the estimated 2.2million ILLEGAL immigrants in this country! The figure is staggering - 2.2 MILLION!!! More frightening is that, because they are illegal, they have not been subjected to normal background checks, so we have no idea who they are, where they are, or for what purpose they are in the country. Amnesty would also confer the right upon them to bring their relatives here as well. Talk about a lazy and impractical solution to a very serious problem. But as always the vastly privileged Clegg and his sidekicks will be fine, because they don't have to live in the real world with the rest of us, competing on a daily basis for accommodation, jobs, school places, hospital beds etc.

So Vote LibDem and get just another version of New Labour! What we need is decisive action, not pussyfooting around issues deemed too politically correct to debate with truth and honesty.

Sticks
29-04-2010, 07:06 AM
The real villains are the media.

This was a private conversation in private.

So it was a sky microphone, they should still not have broadcast it.

suppose Sky News had secretly bugged a party leader to catch their private conversations and then broadcast it? They would be rightly condemmed for this invasion of privacy. This case is no different.

As for the old lady, we do not know what she said to ellicit this reaction. How about turning the spotlight on her?

As for immigration, any student of history will tell you we are all a nation of immigrants from the jutes, picts, normans, saxons and vikings et al. And this country is so much richer for it.

Angus
29-04-2010, 07:35 AM
The real villains are the media.

This was a private conversation in private.

So it was a sky microphone, they should still not have broadcast it.

suppose Sky News had secretly bugged a party leader to catch their private conversations and then broadcast it? They would be rightly condemmed for this invasion of privacy. This case is no different.

As for the old lady, we do not know what she said to ellicit this reaction. How about turning the spotlight on her?

As for immigration, any student of history will tell you we are all a nation of immigrants from the jutes, picts, normans, saxons and vikings et al. And this country is so much richer for it.


Yes, we know this is a nation of immigrants, practically every country on earth could say the same. This is the same old argument used by Labour to justify their total incompetence in overseeing fair and just immigration control. It doesn't take a degree in economics to understand that there is a finite amount of resources to go around. Uncontrolled immigration cannot be allowed to continue - I suggest you talk to many of the immigrants who are already here, as I have - you may be surprised to learn that they say the same because they are not idiots and realise that too many people competing for too few resources spells disaster for everyone.

karezza
29-04-2010, 09:14 AM
Most people are concerned about immigration therefore scumbag Brown thinks most people are bigots.

BB_Eye
29-04-2010, 09:37 AM
Most people are concerned about immigration therefore scumbag Brown thinks most people are bigots.

I doubt immigration even affects the day to day lives of most people "concerned" about it. Anti-racism is becoming the bigger taboo nowadays.

Crimson Dynamo
29-04-2010, 10:21 AM
The real villains are the media.

we are the media

This was a private conversation in private.

So it was a sky microphone, they should still not have broadcast it.

And in the real world...

suppose Sky News had secretly bugged a party leader to catch their private conversations and then broadcast it? They would be rightly condemmed for this invasion of privacy. This case is no different.

intent

As for the old lady, we do not know what she said to ellicit this reaction. How about turning the spotlight on her?

we do and she was not bigoted she was expressing her view and her concerns. She does not have the benefit of an army of civil servants to bolster her world view, she tells it like she sees it and many agree with her

As for immigration, any student of history will tell you we are all a nation of immigrants from the jutes, picts, normans, saxons and vikings et al. And this country is so much richer for it.

No one denies this but the problem is uncontrolled numbers, no idea of who is here, no idea of cost to nation, no idea on impact on local jobs, no idea on impact on unemployment.

arista
29-04-2010, 10:27 AM
http://news.sky.com/sky-news/content/StaticFile/jpg/2010/Apr/Week4/15622164.jpg

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/multimedia/archive/00712/Brookes_29_712249a.jpg

Tom
29-04-2010, 10:37 AM
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as opposed to the Torys? The damage they did was far greater than what Labour has done, and most Labour damage has only happened in the past couple of years under Brown.

Labour are probably the lesser of two evils.

Spike
29-04-2010, 10:47 AM
I think this story has been taken way too seriously by the Tory media
Yeah he shouldn't have said it but it was a private conversation in the heat of the moment by a man who was angry at his days campaigning.
Luckily for Labour it should only be a 24hour story with the debate tonight overshadowing it.

Crimson Dynamo
29-04-2010, 10:48 AM
as opposed to the Torys? The damage they did was far greater than what Labour has done, and most Labour damage has only happened in the past couple of years under Brown.

what damage?

Crimson Dynamo
29-04-2010, 10:51 AM
I think this story has been taken way too seriously by the Tory media
Yeah he shouldn't have said it but it was a private conversation in the heat of the moment by a man who was angry at his days campaigning.
Luckily for Labour it should only be a 24hour story with the debate tonight overshadowing it.

dream on cowboy

we know it is a private convo but regardless it shows reality and voters want to vote for real things not engineered spun bollocks

his dismissal was real, he binned her (and a huge swathe of the UK) as just a "woman bigot" simply because he disagreed, did not like to be told he was not great, dis not like to be shown up, did not want his carefully crated façade to be exposed.

Who would vote for that?

Tom
29-04-2010, 10:51 AM
what damage?

Do you mean caused by Labour or caused by Tories?

Crimson Dynamo
29-04-2010, 10:53 AM
Do you mean caused by Labour or caused by Tories?

The Conservatives, and by this i mean actually caused, not things that happened during their period in power

For example one could hardly say that the internet was a labour success etc..

Spike
29-04-2010, 10:57 AM
dream on cowboy

we know it is a private convo but regardless it shows reality and voters want to vote for real things not engineered spun bollocks

his dismissal was real, he binned her (and a huge swathe of the UK) as just a "woman bigot" simply because he disagreed, did not like to be told he was not great, dis not like to be shown up, did not want his carefully crated façade to be exposed.

Who would vote for that?

I would.
If voters want to vote for real things then they are going to be stuck on May 6th because every party spins to make themselves look more electable
The public aren't stupid, they will know things like this are said by Brown, Cameron, Clegg and other party leaders behind closed doors. Unfortunately for Labour it was Brown that got caught
The comments weren't needed or appropriate but I hope the public base their vote on more than this one comment.

Tom
29-04-2010, 11:04 AM
The Conservatives, and by this i mean actually caused, not things that happened during their period in power

For example one could hardly say that the internet was a labour success etc..

Oh god where do you start.

A lot of public sectors were privatised under Thatcher and as a result the costs went up. One of their main priorities was to fix high employment, yet this caused loss of jobs as did the closing of certain industries.

Transport and housing were cut. More cuts in higher education and right to buy policy making gap between rich and poor even wider.

VAT went up and they created poll tax- despite saying they were attempting to tame inflation.

Then there were the stupid and unnecessary wars (mirrors today I guess).

Thats just off the top of my head tbh and thats most likely how it will end up again.

IMO healthcare, work and education are the most important things- screw anything else, you won't get far without those. And cuts will be made in all of them under another Tory government.

karezza
29-04-2010, 11:19 AM
Margaret Thatcher saved England from socialism.
If Labour had won the 1979 election this country would have been finished.

King Gizzard
29-04-2010, 11:21 AM
Don't blame him tbh, silly old annoying woman

karezza
29-04-2010, 11:24 AM
Gordon Brown is a national embarrassment - the whole world is laughing at him.

Niamh.
29-04-2010, 11:31 AM
I watched that on the news last night, caught by the balls!! hahahaha, I have no doubt that he isn't the only politician who has made a comment about members of the public they've had to talk to before though

eye sea
29-04-2010, 11:52 AM
What a complete asshole that man Brown is. I really think he's suffering from Aspergers. He is hapless in social situations, he doesn't know whether to smile insanely, grin, or pull a straight face.

He apologizes for saying something he meant and said he didn't mean it. He's pathetic.

setanta
29-04-2010, 11:53 AM
The next debate is on tonight, right? Could be very interesting.

arista
29-04-2010, 12:07 PM
Gordon Brown is a national embarrassment - the whole world is laughing at him.



Yes
Fox News
CNN America
ABC News
France24 News
NDTV
CBS News
and every other World News station

Niamh.
29-04-2010, 12:22 PM
Yes
Fox News
CNN America
ABC News
France24 News
NDTV
CBS News
and every other World News station

I have to admit I got a great laugh out of it anyway :joker:

arista
29-04-2010, 12:52 PM
http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Guardian/Pix/pictures/2010/3/6/1267840834631/Martin-Rowson-cartoon-06.-001.jpg

sooty
29-04-2010, 02:02 PM
I learnt a new word. "Bigot".

AndyJK
29-04-2010, 03:04 PM
The real villains are the media.

This was a private conversation in private.

So it was a sky microphone, they should still not have broadcast it.

suppose Sky News had secretly bugged a party leader to catch their private conversations and then broadcast it? They would be rightly condemmed for this invasion of privacy. This case is no different.

As for the old lady, we do not know what she said to ellicit this reaction. How about turning the spotlight on her?

As for immigration, any student of history will tell you we are all a nation of immigrants from the jutes, picts, normans, saxons and vikings et al. And this country is so much richer for it.

Ah that old chestnut. Yes because the country was so much civilized in those days what with vikings busy raping, killing, pillaging and conquering their way through the country; Normans repressing Saxons, and Saxons oppressing Pics/Celts etc etc yes they all got on so well didnt they. And guess what, 2000 years later and we STILL hate each other which is why we have Scottish, Welsh and Irish nationalist parties who want to split from the rest pf the country.

Its a bull**** argument and you know it.

No one is against immigration. I have emigrated myself. Its the scale and amount of people who have arrived many unskilled and here to claim asylum to abuse a generous benefits system that people are pissed of with. And I know first hand due to my contacts in the health industry who have to deal with asylum seekers getting pregnant purely to get a passport to remain here.

Come down to the capital and see the effects yourself. You dont live in the real world.

BB_Eye
29-04-2010, 03:39 PM
Ah that old chestnut. Yes because the country was so much civilized in those days what with vikings busy raping, killing, pillaging and conquering their way through the country; Normans repressing Saxons, and Saxons oppressing Pics/Celts etc etc yes they all got on so well didnt they. And guess what, 2000 years later and we STILL hate each other which is why we have Scottish, Welsh and Irish nationalist parties who want to split from the rest pf the country.

Its a bull**** argument and you know it.

No one is against immigration. I have emigrated myself. Its the scale and amount of people who have arrived many unskilled and here to claim asylum to abuse a generous benefits system that people are pissed of with. And I know first hand due to my contacts in the health industry who have to deal with asylum seekers getting pregnant purely to get a passport to remain here.

Come down to the capital and see the effects yourself. You dont live in the real world.

I'm not sure where you're coming from on this. Illegal immigrants mostly come to the country to be employed as slave labour by criminals, because it is still a step above the conditions they would have lived in previously. Others arrive as prostitutes and drug dealers. Preventing their entry into the UK isn't a matter of "tough policies" or standing up to "political correctness". Unilaterally speaking, the biggest threat posed by illegal immigration would benefit fraud as a result of being an undeclared worker. Not only is benefit fraud common among the indigenous population, it is also a significantly smaller fiscal cost to the governent than say... income tax evasion.

As for asylum seekers, I think it's worth mentioning that you actually need to be a British citizen to to claim any sort of benefit. I doubt very many asylum seekers make it beyond the stage of refugee camps anyway.

Of course there is the question of EU laws and freedom of movement. But shouldn't the question be "how can customs be so ineffective in tackling illegal immigration" rather than "since when were so many of these brown people able to get into our country?". And isn't this just what it boils down to regarding a lot of people's feelings on the matter? You pretend you are "not against immigration" all the while making out the idea that Britain is a country of immigrants to be a "bull**** argument".

*mazedsalv**
29-04-2010, 04:31 PM
This made me laugh so much. What a plonker.
We were analysing this in Media today and how different newspapers view it differently, with some calling his act disgusting and some saying that he feels bad about it.

But seriously, how embarassing. You got to admit it, we have all said something bad about someone before, but just imagine it being shown in front of millions whilst saying it. LOL at his radio interview. He put his foot in it.

That would have lost him the election for sure.

AndyJK
29-04-2010, 05:38 PM
I'm not sure where you're coming from on this. Illegal immigrants mostly come to the country to be employed as slave labour by criminals, because it is still a step above the conditions they would have lived in previously. Others arrive as prostitutes and drug dealers. Preventing their entry into the UK isn't a matter of "tough policies" or standing up to "political correctness". Unilaterally speaking, the biggest threat posed by illegal immigration would benefit fraud as a result of being an undeclared worker. Not only is benefit fraud common among the indigenous population, it is also a significantly smaller fiscal cost to the governent than say... income tax evasion.

As for asylum seekers, I think it's worth mentioning that you actually need to be a British citizen to to claim any sort of benefit. I doubt very many asylum seekers make it beyond the stage of refugee camps anyway.

Of course there is the question of EU laws and freedom of movement. But shouldn't the question be "how can customs be so ineffective in tackling illegal immigration" rather than "since when were so many of these brown people able to get into our country?". And isn't this just what it boils down to regarding a lot of people's feelings on the matter? You pretend you are "not against immigration" all the while making out the idea that Britain is a country of immigrants to be a "bull**** argument".

Wait, firstly I don't "pretend" to be not against immigration so don't put words in to my mouth. I am against the system being abused. Plain and simple. Secondly who said anything about "brown people?" Certainly not I.

As for my argument with Sticks, I never said "Britain is a country of immigrants" to be "a "bull**** argument". I said using immigration during the dark ages, like vikings and such, to use as an argument to stop people questioning immigration today is wrong. The argument is not about immigration per sa, it is about the numbers of people coming here, whether we need and can accommodate them.

As for asylum seekers, I think it's worth mentioning that you actually need to be a British citizen to to claim any sort of benefit. I doubt very many asylum seekers make it beyond the stage of refugee camps anyway.

A single person claiming asylum gets £35.00 per week allowance, plus accommodation and other benefit entitlements depending on their circumstances. You are wrong as some asylum seekers can claim more benefits depending how much they have contributed to the system.

Crimson Dynamo
30-04-2010, 01:49 PM
I learnt a new word. "Bigot".

Bigot yourself

DJ's say it all the time

that and shout out

:dance:

sooty
30-04-2010, 11:12 PM
Bigot yourself

DJ's say it all the time

that and shout out

:dance:

:hugesmile:

eye sea
01-05-2010, 05:55 AM
Big gut in Brown's case.

Every night when he takes his corset off.

arista
02-05-2010, 07:57 AM
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1270337/Gordon-wont-getting-vote-Gillian-Duffy-reveals-REALLY-upset-devastating-exchange-PM.html

http://news.sky.com/sky-news/content/StaticFile/jpg/2010/May/Week1/15623754.jpg

Pathetic Brown stayed with Gillian
far to long over 45mins infact,
He was trying to get her outside with him.


He has lost her Vote
and she is going to stay in Canada, for a while.


One Eyed Scottish Brown
the Home Wrecker.

Angus
02-05-2010, 08:26 AM
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1270337/Gordon-wont-getting-vote-Gillian-Duffy-reveals-REALLY-upset-devastating-exchange-PM.html

http://news.sky.com/sky-news/content/StaticFile/jpg/2010/May/Week1/15623754.jpg

Pathetic Brown stayed with Gillian
far to long over 45mins infact,
He was trying to get her outside with him.


He has lost her Vote
and she is going to stay in Canada, for a while.


One Eyed Scottish Brown
the Home Wrecker.




He really does just lurch from one disaster to another - I reckon he's the Conservative Party's secret weapon!:hugesmile: