Maxwell and Saskia ruined BB6

[SparkleBabe]

Anyone agree?? There's a thread on here discussing which was better BB5 or BB6 and I would say BB5 for the simple fact that those two bullying, racist scumbags wern't in it.

BB6 would have been excellent without them and I think Kinga and Eugene should have been in from day one instead of those two morons. Just thinking about Chavwell and Slagskia makes my blood boil.

Horrible people!!

[Buffyfan]

Ah No, for you maybe. They made it for me. And please don't through the racism card around so loosely.

[~Kizwiz~]

I think Maxwell & Saskia brought a needed something to BB6! I was sad when they both went out so early... Maxwell should have won IMOA!

[SparkleBabe]

Originally posted by kizwiz
I think Maxwell & Saskia brought a needed something to BB6! I was sad when they both went out so early... Maxwell should have won IMOA!

Yep they brough that much needed bullying, bitching and racial harrasment. You can say what you like about Makosi, but she wasn't evil. She played the game well. Unlike Saskia who just presumed that by shagging someone in the house the public would love her and that she would be "The last gal in the ouse":joker: Her views on immigarion were disgusting and she shouldn't have been allowed in a house that was so racially diverse.

[jrc]

Firstly, like Buffyfan said earlier, could you please stop throwing the racism card around so loosely, it shows a great deal of ignorance. :rolleyes: Secondly, Maxwell and Saskia being 'racist scumbags' is your opinion, not fact. And finally, if you want my opinion, Makosi didn't 'play the game well'. She just had no sense of morals or dignity. :rolleyes:

[richardson328]

No i disagree, There was nothing wrong with makosi but MAXWELL AND SASKIA WERE HORRIBLE, BULLIES!!!! SASKIA WAS A LIL SLUT!!!!! I H8ED HER SOOO MUCH!!! I LOVED HER DA 1ST WEEK. MAXWELL U CAN DO BETTA THAN THAT BULLYING SLUT!!!!!!

[jrc]

Do you have to type nearly the whole post in capital letters? :rolleyes:

[lily.]

oh dear.... the fookwits are back in town..

[Jaide]

Sparkle Babe let it go it's all over with now the show's over get on with you life. All you ever do is talk about is Maxwell and Saskia... For a person who doesn't like them you sure talk about them lots. a bit obsessive? I see you post on Digital spy, channel 4 forum and probably many more. I dont like makosi i thought she was a total bitch but do i go and post about it every wakening moment.. We get the point you dont like max and saskia... I for one think they made BB6 so I dissagree with you.

Have a nice day :xyxwave:
Originally posted by SparkleBabe
Anyone agree?? There's a thread on here discussing which was better BB5 or BB6 and I would say BB5 for the simple fact that those two bullying, racist scumbags wern't in it.

BB6 would have been excellent without them and I think Kinga and Eugene should have been in from day one instead of those two morons. Just thinking about Chavwell and Slagskia makes my blood boil.

Horrible people!!

[Mike]

What is wrong with some people, Maxwell and Saskia ruined BB? dont make me laugh, the amount of threads created on here throughout BB showed they gave us something to talk about whether it was good or bad, as for Kinga being in from day 1, no thanks a couple of weeks was enough, Eugene was a good guy though.

[lily.]

Yeah, they had somewhere to put their empties long before Kinga the self styled bottle bank appeared.. :laugh:

[makosifan]

Originally posted by Jaide
Sparkle Babe let it go it's all over with now the show's over get on with you life. All you ever do is talk about is Maxwell and Saskia... For a person who doesn't like them you sure talk about them lots. a bit obsessive? I see you post on Digital spy, channel 4 forum and probably many more. I dont like makosi i thought she was a total bitch but do i go and post about it every wakening moment.. We get the point you dont like max and saskia... I for one think they made BB6 so I dissagree with you.

Have a nice day :xyxwave:
Originally posted by SparkleBabe
Anyone agree?? There's a thread on here discussing which was better BB5 or BB6 and I would say BB5 for the simple fact that those two bullying, racist scumbags wern't in it.

BB6 would have been excellent without them and I think Kinga and Eugene should have been in from day one instead of those two morons. Just thinking about Chavwell and Slagskia makes my blood boil.

Horrible people!!

yeah but alot of makosi haters DO go on about her EVERY second so why shouldnt us that dislike saskia and maxwell do them same.
Anyway i agree with you sparklebabe i didnt like either of them at all

[CharlotteSometimes]

Maxwell, Saskia, Science and Kemal made BB6 worth watching. The rest just got in the way of the entertainment.

[Ruth]

I didn't like Maxwell and Saskia one bit, but I won't go on about that, because my feelings are well documented! I will say though, that Big Brother would be a very boring program if they weren't any people in it, who viewers didn't like. That was part of the problem with BB4 for me - everybody in it was actually quite nice, which does not make for an interesting Big Brother.

[guttridge]

they were not that bad there team won remmber

[SparkleBabe]

Originally posted by jrc
Firstly, like Buffyfan said earlier, could you please stop throwing the racism card around so loosely, it shows a great deal of ignorance. :rolleyes: Secondly, Maxwell and Saskia being 'racist scumbags' is your opinion, not fact. And finally, if you want my opinion, Makosi didn't 'play the game well'. She just had no sense of morals or dignity. :rolleyes:

No it isn't ignorance! You think Saskia comments about immigrants on her audition tape were OK do you? She's the ignorant one "All they wanna do is kill us and bomb us" what a stupid ignorant, bigoted cow she is. But of course this is Saskia, the same girl who though the second world war started in 1966 so I suppose we should expect nothing less from one so intellectually challenged.:rolleyes:

I suppose you think its fine to joke about putting scabs in another Housemates food, or refer to one of them as a "flid"(that remarks was heard by several viewers watching E4),or mock a person's nationality or racial appearance, to mock a person's sexuality? To talk about nominations, yet practically lynch other HM's for daring to talk about you behind your back? What about their presumtion that either Derek or Roberto would go in week 3 becauce they didn't like them? The look of anger on their faces when their fellow HM's dared to nominate them in week5??

I seriousley worry about the mentality of those who liked these two horrible human beings! But of course Max and Saskia and two nice people you'd meet down the pub arn't they:rolleyes: ?? Maxwell showed himself to be a total thug by the way he behaved on his eviction night "Open the ****ing doors" .

As for Makosi, yes she was devious and cunning. But never down right nasty. She played the game brilliantly and gave us all wonderful entertainment during those 11 weeks.

[Lance]

I didn't like Maxwell and Saskia either, but like this whole racism thing? It's a bit pathetic really. Mind you I suppose you can have your say because there are so many anti-Makosi people who say even worse things. But yeah don't abuse the racism card.

At the end of the day they both got evicted fairly early so people must have seen through them. I don't think they ruined BB though. BB wouldn't be BB if you liked everyone an you need a mix of characters in the house for it to work, love them or hate them.

[hass]

nope dont agree with you at all. they made the show, without them it would have been boring. and rasism my ar*e. they split because the other group were not entertaining or funny in the slightest, they just sat around and bitched! team saskia ruled!!:elephant:

[GlitterEyes]

I think the exact opposite I thought Maxwell and Saskia made the show....I shudder to think what people would have watched in the first few weeks and who would of entertained us if maxwell wasnt in the house. Maxwell was the star of the show.

[Lance]

Originally posted by GlitterEyes
I think the exact opposite I thought Maxwell and Saskia made the show....I shudder to think what people would have watched in the first few weeks and who would of entertained us if maxwell wasnt in the house. Maxwell was the star of the show.

Nope, he wasn't. If he was the star of the show he would have won. I hate to say it but Anthony was the star of the show.

And well if Max and Saskia weren't there we probably would have had two other housemates that would have done just as much and more.

[texbex]

I like Maxwell and Saskia but I am glad they went when they did

[SMC]

Maxwell and Saskia certainly didn't ruin BB, they gave us plenty of talking points through out the series and IMO the show would be at a loss without them, though you may dislike them you have to respect that others think differently like myself and Maxwell was my favourite BB housemate this year along with Derek and Anthony

[SparkleBabe]

Maxwell and Saskia are pretty much universally hated on DS and the C4 forums. Im guessing most of the users on here are quite young, judging by the fact that they don't try and defend some of team Saskia's behaviour.

They ostracised themselves in week one and didn't make any attmept to mix. Well, no sorry Maxwell did before Saskia manipulated him. They remind me of the cool gang at school who think they are better than anyone else and look down their noses at everyone. What they forget is that the "uncool" ones always come out better in the end. I actually liked Maxwell in the begining and think had Saskia not been in there he would never have let his mask slip like he did. He needs to wake up and smell the coffee, she doesn't really fancy him. She's a user. He's gonna get his heart broken sooner, rather than later.

Its interesting that out of all the HM's the only ones who liked Maxskia and still keep in touch with them are Craig and Anthony. The others are all on pretty good terms with each other. Even Derek and Science made up.

[Ruth]

Originally posted by guttridge
they were not that bad there team won remmber It's not a team show - no team won, one person won, and that was Anthony.

[lizzie_bb5]

I think Maxwell and Saskia are great- they were brillliant in the show and definatly did not ruin it.

[Ruth]

Originally posted by SparkleBabe
Maxwell and Saskia are pretty much universally hated on DS and the C4 forums. I'm guessing most of the users on here are quite young, judging by the fact that they don't try and defend some of team Saskia's behaviour.


Bit of a patronising thing to say! To be honest, I share your feelings about Maxwell and Saskia, although I didn't personally see or hear Maxwell say anything racist. Whether Saskia's fans are aware of it, or whether or not they like it, Saskia definitely had some decidedly dodgy views about immigrants.

I didn't like them; I thought they were two of the most awful housemates ever to have been in any Big Brother (together with Craig and Makosi), but as I said earlier, it would be a boring show if we all liked everybody in it, or if everybody in it got on really well with each other.

[SparkleBabe]

Originally posted by Ruth
Bit of a patronising thing to say! To be honest, I share your feelings about Maxwell and Saskia, although I didn't personally see or hear Maxwell say anything racist. Whether Saskia's fans are aware of it, or whether or not they like it, Saskia definitely had some decidedly dodgy views about immigrants.

I didn't like them; I thought they were two of the most awful housemates ever to have been in any Big Brother (together with Craig and Makosi), but as I said earlier, it would be a boring show if we all liked everybody in it, or if everybody in it got on really well with each other.

I didn't mean to be patronising. Im just interested to hear why so many people on this board found them "entertaining"?:puzzled: Im glad Im not the only person on here who see's them for what they are. Nasty, evil playground bullies.

To my mind they did absoloutley nothing entertaining whatsoever, unless you count sitting up until the early hours talking about football and shagging which was all team saskia seemed to do. I'd much rather what a Team Makosi bitch fest, at least they know how to bitch properly.

[Fangz]

I don't think they were/are racist, where'd you get that idea from?:conf:
I don't like either of 'em, but they weren't the worst ones in there, IMHO.

[makosifan]

Originally posted by Lance
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Nope, he wasn't. If he was the star of the show he would have won. I hate to say it but Anthony was the star of the show.

And well if Max and Saskia weren't there we probably would have had two other housemates that would have done just as much and more.

I don't think Ant was "the star",
There is a difference between the star of the show and the actual winner. For example in BB3 Kate won BUT most people think of Jade as the star.
BB1 craig won but nick was the star etc..
Personally i think MAkosi was the star this year but its just down to personal opinion , some people think Maxwell was , others Science, some Derek etc...

[sweet-thang]

makosi and sciemce:hello:

[makosifan]

I can understand why sparklebabe thinks SAskia and Max might be racist as they both did come out with certain stuf andshe has given examples.
I dont think they were racist but i do think they were VERY ignorant.
And Maxwell did come across as a bit of a bully ie scab incident, also that time when he looked like he was about to hit Kemal and saskia had to get him to calm down,

[Ruth]

Originally posted by Fangz
I don't think they were/are racist, where'd you get that idea from?:conf:
I don't like either of 'em, but they weren't the worst ones in there, IMHO.

Saskia said we shouldn't let any more foreigners into the country, as they all want to bomb us and call us names. I'd have to say she was either racist or ignorant or both.

[Ruth]

Originally posted by SparkleBabe
I didn't mean to be patronising.

No I know, I'm sorry. It didn't come across on the screen as it did in my head!

[SparkleBabe]

Maxwell called Makosi a "boon", which some people could call a racist remark. He also told Kemal that he didn't know whether he was "Arthur or Martha", now excuse me but I thought that sort of remark went out with the arc??

Then there was Maxwell making fun of Roberto for being Italian, you could say though that was xenophobic rather than Racist. Still very ignorant though. Saskia also called Derek a "Malteaser Head" which was later repeated by Anthony.

[cc100]

We all know about Saskia's feelings on non whites.........

[makosifan]

Originally posted by SparkleBabe
Maxwell called Makosi a "boon", which some people could call a racist remark. He also told Kemal that he didn't know whether he was "Arthur or Martha", now excuse me but I thought that sort of remark went out with the arc??

Then there was Maxwell making fun of Roberto for being Italian, you could say though that was xenophobic rather than Racist. Still very ignorant though. Saskia also called Derek a "Malteaser Head" which was later repeated by Anthony.

dont get me wrong i really disliked Maxwell and Saskia too, they were def my least fa vhousemates this year!
i just wouldnt go as far as to say they were racist just very ignorant.BUT i totally understand where your coming from.
There is A LOT of words i could use to describe them both i just dont think racist is one of them...

[CharlotteSometimes]

Originally posted by SparkleBabe

No it isn't ignorance! You think Saskia comments about immigrants on her audition tape were OK do you? She's the ignorant one "All they want to do is kill us and bomb us" ...

I suppose you think its fine to joke about putting scabs in another Housemates food

or mock a person's nationality or racial appearance

to mock a person's sexuality?

To talk about nominations, yet practically lynch other HM's for daring to talk about you behind your back?

I seriousley worry about the mentality of those who liked these two horrible human beings! But of course Max and Saskia and two nice people you'd meet down the pub arn't they:rolleyes: ??

Maxwell showed himself to be a total thug by the way he behaved on his eviction night "Open the ****ing doors" .

As for Makosi, yes she was devious and cunning. But never down right nasty. She played the game brilliantly and gave us all wonderful entertainment during those 11 weeks.

It quite clearly is – ignorance of the facts and also of reality. Nobody is saying those comments were "OK". But that isn't racism at all, it's xenophobia. You're playing the race card with no foundation whatsoever. Distasteful as it may be, the vast majority of the population are xenophobic and 'ignorant' as far as immigration is concerned. It's a vast debate that most aren't interested in exploring very deeply at all. That's undoubtedly regrettable, but hardly justification for an individual witch-hunt.

I think it would be legitimate here to ask why you've not cited Derek in your post. There's his infamous "In Science I have found the first black person who makes me want to become a member of the BNP." comment. And the fact that he was the only black member of the Monday Club, which supported repatriation of immigrants and the apartheid regime in South Africa. Then there's his continual refusal to grant an interview with New Nation, or indeed any other 'black media' organisation. Derek's vile objections to gay parenting and adoption, which he spouted several times in the house, are also far more unpalatable and potentially damaging than Saskia's naive comment.

From Science's interview with New Nation: Science says he found the most disappointing housemate to be confused conservative Derek Laud. "Derek is the dark deceiver, full stop, bottom line. He disrespected himself when he said [I made him want to join the BNP]. He has no comprehension of his roots or culture. There was one time when I tried to drop a water [balloon] on his head [playing around], and he was chasing me around saying "come back n****r" – but not in a way that black people say it to each other. I was totally disappointed in him. But at the end of the day, that's him. He chose to leave his roots behind and be the way that he is."

Does a joke warrant such bitterness and hatred? Even Science himself has dismissed that issue.

How does a woman being mocked for wearing a wig equate to 'racism'?

As Derek did to Craig & Anthony? Science to Craig & Kemal? Maxwell to Kemal? Makosi to Kemal? Anthony to Craig? Roberto to Kemal? Kemal to Maxwell? That’s half the housemates at least that you're actually condemning.

Vanessa's discussion of nominations ruined the entire process in week two. Derek, Roberto and Craig were barred from taking part in nominations for a week after discussing them. Makosi, Kemal, Derek (to the point of actually attempting to influence other hm's), Orlaith, Vanessa and most of all Craig all continually discussed nominations with other hm's.

I wouldn't let it worry you. The replies thus far in this thread seem to find the witch-hunt mentality far more disturbing.

That's really quite absurd.

She was "never down right nasty"? Then how would you describe the way she treated Kemal, or her comments about him in the diary room? Or her 'immaculate conception'? Had Makosi "played the game brilliantly", she would've won. The viewers couldn't wait to get her out of the house, evident by the fact that she was their choice for eviction (from a choice of SIX hm's) 2/3 of the way through the series.

[SparkleBabe]

I never knew any of that stuff about Derek,:shocked: I remember him saying the BNP comment about Science but just took it with a pinch of salt.

Very interesting....

[makosifan]

IMO derek was just as ignorant as saskia and Maxwell. All 3 irritated me with certain coments they came out with.

[lily.]

What are you looking for? Perfect Housemates? With no faults at all? Give it up already. The show is over. Save your angst for next year.

[hass]

never ruined it. wernt racist. best housmates!

[stacey]

i think they made the show and did absoultly nothing wrong and were not bullying, racist or anything else horrid like you say they are. so no they didn't ruin it at all!