How long will the coalition last?

[Scarlett.]

Before something goes wrong and it all goes tits up?

[arista]

Before something goes wrong and it all goes tits up?



You Wish
you Devil.

[Scarlett.]

You Wish
you Devil.
Coalitions are always destined to go tits up, two parties, two outlooks, two sets of policies, its impossible for them to merge happily

[arista]

Coalitions are always destined to go tits up, two parties, two outlooks, two sets of policies, its impossible for them to merge happily



But it will be One Set of Policies
in Total.

This is New


They do not have to merge
a few LibDems move into Conservative Posts.
And Nick Modifys his Conservative - LibDem Policies.
David Cameron Modifys his Conservative System
and becomes PM.



Its all New Chewy.


But One Eyed Scottish Brown
will be Gone

Bliss.

[Stacey.]

You Wish
you Devil.

:laugh2:

[Scarlett.]

But it will be One Set of Policies
in Total.

This is New


They do not have to merge
a few LibDems move into Conservative Posts.
And Nick Modifys his Conservative - LibDem Policies.
David Cameron Modifys his Conservative System
and becomes PM.



Its all New Chewy.


But One Eyed Scottish Brown
will be Gone

Bliss.

Gordon will be gone, indeed he will

but you said that Tories/Lib Dems dont have to merge..but you said they have to modify their policies, which basically means they have to merge, it wont be the true Tory goverment you want arista

[arista]

"it wont be the true Tory goverment you want arista "


How Fecking Wrong You Are
I was talking about a Conservative -LibDem Power
years ago.



So Tough Titty.

[Beastie]

Over a year I bet!! David Cameron and Nick Clegg will enjoy working together <3 Especially after hours ;)

[Stacey.]

is it definitely David and Nick going together then?

[Tom4784]

is it definitely David and Nick going together then?

It's looking likely.

[Tom4784]

It'll last around a year I think, we'll have another election sooner rather then later.

[arista]

is it definitely David and Nick going together then?


Yes as the Meetings are doing so well.


As Dezzy stated he wants the LibDems who enter the Conservative Posts
to keep a 24/7 watch on them.


So see this as a David Cameron PM
with new Bolder LibDem Co-System.



It will be Far Far better
than New Dead Labour.




It Is Time For Radical Change.



Bliss.

[Angus]

The one thing that favours a workable coalition is the personalities of the two party leaders which are actually more similar than dissimilar in terms of background and life experiences (unlike Brown and Clegg lol). Brown must be about to spontaneously combust as he watches his dreams of glueing himself to Cleggy boy go down the toilet.

What everyone has forgotten in all of this is the Monarch's constitutional right to influence the outcome, and she is more than likely to agree to a minority Tory government should Cameron request to go it alone. The precedence for this is the 1974 election when Ted Heath (the then PM), with only 297 seats, was unable to reach an agreement with the Liberal leader, Thorpe who had won 14 seats, and Heath resigned. Harold Wilson then formed a minority government with only 301 seats. Six months later there was another General Election and Wilson was returned to power with a small majority.

[Angus]

It'll last around a year I think, we'll have another election sooner rather then later.

That will be good so that the Conservatives can win with an overall majority.

[arista]

"Brown must be about to spontaneously combust "


Yes
I want him Crying



Triple Justice

[ange7]

The one thing that favours a workable coalition is the personalities of the two party leaders which are actually more similar than dissimilar in terms of background and life experiences (unlike Brown and Clegg lol). Brown must be about to spontaneously combust as he watches his dreams of glueing himself to Cleggy boy go down the toilet.

What everyone has forgotten in all of this is the Monarch's constitutional right to influence the outcome, and she is more than likely to agree to a minority Tory government should Cameron request to go it alone. The precedence for this is the 1974 election when Ted Heath (the then PM), with only 297 seats, was unable to reach an agreement with the Liberal leader, Thorpe who had won 14 seats, and Heath resigned. Harold Wilson then formed a minority government with only 301 seats. Six months later there was another General Election and Wilson was returned to power with a small majority.

gee you talk rubbish.
"What everyone has forgotten in all of this is the Monarch's constitutional right to influence the outcome".
For starters UK doesn't have a constitution...parliamentary convention and custom are based on precedent so talking of a"constitution" highlights your own lack of knowledge of your own country parliament. Sad really given your condescending tone when you seaid "wha everyone has forgotten".
But here's what is REALLY funny. The queen not only has NO constitutional right to influence elections but it's amazing you think she ought to be able to . So you want an unelected toff to override democracy. Shows what little respect or true understanding you have for the concept "angus". The queen only has a "right" to vote like the rest of you and chooses NOT to vote for fear of seeming to influence elections. That's right... none of your royals vote ...they want to AVOID influencing election.( but angus wants them to actually step in and choose for the electorate). You'd be scary if you weren't so funny.
mahahahahaha!!

[ange7]

owned!

[Angus]

gee you talk rubbish.
"What everyone has forgotten in all of this is the Monarch's constitutional right to influence the outcome".
For starters UK doesn't have a constitution...parliamentary convention and custom are based on precedent so talking of a"constitution" highlights your own lack of knowledge of your own country parliament. Sad really given your condescending tone when you seaid "wha everyone has forgotten".
But here's what is REALLY funny. The queen not only has NO constitutional right to influence elections but it's amazing you think she ought to be able to . So you want an unelected toff to override democracy. Shows what little respect or true understanding you have for the concept "angus". The queen only has a "right" to vote like the rest of you and chooses NOT to vote for fear of seeming to influence elections. That's right... none of your royals vote ...they want to AVOID influencing election.( but angus wants them to actually step in and choose for the electorate). You'd be scary if you weren't so funny.

mahahahahaha!!

Just because the Monarch does NOT intervene, does not mean she does not have the constitutional RIGHT to do so if events ever called for her to do so. I suggest you go back and read what I actually said before trying to twist my words to suit your own agenda. The monarch cannot "influence elections" my dear aussie chump but she could, if she so chose, influence the outcome of this present predicament we find ourselves in. The GBP have already spoken and the Conservatives have the most seats, like it or not. Oh,and by the way, where on earth do you get the idea that we do not have any constitutional conventions?

If a time came to pass, for instance, when a law threatened the freedom or security of her subjects and citizens, the Queen could decline royal assent, free as she is from the constraints of party politics. Furthermore, armed removal of her by Parliament or Government would be difficult, as the monarch remains commander-in-chief of the armed forces, who swear an oath of allegiance to her.

I talk rubbish? LOL - Some of your posts are virtually incoherent and totally pointless. Condescending and arrogant? Pot/Kettle springs to mind:xyxwave:

[arista]

Angus

Ange
is Down Under
he has to go to bed soon.


Life In The Fast Lane.

[Angus]

Angus

Ange
is Down Under
he has to go to bed soon.


Life In The Fast Lane.

I know, I just hope his mummy slips him a mogadon in his bedtime milk.

[arista]

I know, I just hope his mummy slips him a mogadon in his bedtime milk.



You can be Wicked.


Good On Ya.

[Scarlett.]

Analysts are predicting another general election will be held around October/November, apparently

[Shaun]

owned!

who on earth says owned to themselves? arse.

I'd agree with Dezzy.

[arista]

Analysts are predicting another general election will be held around October/November, apparently


One or Two could be.


But it could also be Years Away.

[Angus]

One or Two could be.


But it could also be Years Away.

Analysts also predicting that Cameron will lead a minority government, with a general election in the autumn when he will hope to gain a majority. It's either that or a rainbow coalition with Labour having to concede to demands from four different parties in order to get a majority.

[Shasown]

Coalitions are always destined to go tits up, two parties, two outlooks, two sets of policies, its impossible for them to merge happily

Always destined to go tits up? Can I recommend you look at the governments of both World Wars, also the governments of the 1930's before you make ludicous statements.

[Scarlett.]

Always destined to go tits up? Can I recommend you look at the governments of both World Wars, also the governments of the 1930's before you make ludicous statements.

That was a different era, the world was at war, they had to stick together no matter what or else England would be ****ed

[Stephanie]

6 months.

[Shasown]

That was a different era, the world was at war, they had to stick together no matter what or else England would be ****ed

First off it wasnt England it was, and is the United Kingdom

Secondly as I said look it up, coalition formed by Asquith in 1915, there was a split within the liberal party between asquith and Lloyd George, LD lead the government , election in 1918 a coalition government was re elected and sat till 1922. (WW1 ended in 1918). The coalition split in 1922 Bonar Law was invited to form a government - (first and only PM not born in the uk) Conservatives won the election at the end of 22.

In the spring of 1929, Baldwin disolved parliament expecting to be returned. Instead, on May 30 MacDonald’s Labour Party received 288 seats compared with the Conservative Party’s 260, with the Liberals again holding the balance of power, with 59 seats. MacDonald formed his second government, again with Liberal consent, if not support.

A coalition type government of one form or another continued running the country till the end of the second world war (1939-1945)

[Scarlett.]

Sorry for getting the name wrong, it gets kinda confusing with all the names for this piece of land (Great Britain, England, Britian, United Kingdom) and tbh, I dont think it really bloody matters everyone else would have understood what I was saying

and like I said, it was a different era back then

[Shasown]

Sorry for getting the name wrong, it gets kinda confusing with all the names for this piece of land (Great Britain, England, Britian, United Kingdom) and tbh, I dont think it really bloody matters everyone else would have understood what I was saying

and like I said, it was a different era back then

Nah not really the parliament at Westminster is the UK government, England unlike Scotland etc doesnt have its own regional assembly. Its that sort of attitude that hacks off the Micks Taffs and porridge ****.

Best get used to the coalition type government and all the deal brokering, because if any form of PR is introduced thats what is going to happen from now on.



May have been a different era but the problems with the economy, unemployment etc were pretty much what we have now.

[Scarlett.]

Nah not really the parliament at Westminster is the UK government, England unlike Scotland etc doesnt have its own regional assembly. Its that sort of attitude that hacks off the Micks Taffs and porridge ****.

Best get used to the coalition type government and all the deal brokering, because if any form of PR is introduced thats what is going to happen from now on.



May have been a different era but the problems with the economy, unemployment etc were pretty much what we have now.Maybe you're right

but I dont get a good feeling out of any coalition that could be done with any of Britian's current parties

[Shasown]

Nah thats the one thing politicians are good at, changing sides and idealogies in order to stay aboard the gravy train.

[cupid stunt]

yo WOT I WANT TO KNOW IS IF LIB DEM AND THE OTHER LOT GET TOGETHER ARE WE STILL GONNA GET WEED CAFES

[Shasown]

yo WOT I WANT TO KNOW IS IF LIB DEM AND THE OTHER LOT GET TOGETHER ARE WE STILL GONNA GET WEED CAFES

Yo what I would like to know is why do you always post in capitals is it like a challenge to the mods saying bet you dare not ban me?

[AJ.]

Why do you guys hate brown so much?

[Tom4784]

Why do you guys hate brown so much?

I think he's useless really, nothing good has come about in his reign and many problems that should have been dealt with have been left to become worse over time. If the Labour can use this loss to dust themselves down, get a better leader and focus on what they originally stood for then I'd be all for them returning to power as I hate the Tories (In an ideal world I would like the libdems to have a crack at it but it isn't a realistic prospect sadly).

[arista]

Why do you guys hate brown so much?


He Wrecked this Nation
He Helped the BNP into power (the time before this)
He was in charge of the FSA
and has helped keep this Nation worse of.

New Dead Labour MP's want him gone.

One Good New Labour MP Mann was on the TV this morning
saying he must go.
and Brown lost the Election.

We met the Real Brown calling a Lady a Bigot
and blamed his worker Sue for it, at first.

[ange7]

Just because the Monarch does NOT intervene, does not mean she does not have the constitutional RIGHT to do so if events ever called for her to do so. I suggest you go back and read what I actually said before trying to twist my words to suit your own agenda. The monarch cannot "influence elections" my dear aussie chump but she could, if she so chose, influence the outcome of this present predicament we find ourselves in. The GBP have already spoken and the Conservatives have the most seats, like it or not. Oh,and by the way, where on earth do you get the idea that we do not have any constitutional conventions?

If a time came to pass, for instance, when a law threatened the freedom or security of her subjects and citizens, the Queen could decline royal assent, free as she is from the constraints of party politics. Furthermore, armed removal of her by Parliament or Government would be difficult, as the monarch remains commander-in-chief of the armed forces, who swear an oath of allegiance to her.

I talk rubbish? LOL - Some of your posts are virtually incoherent and totally pointless. Condescending and arrogant? Pot/Kettle springs to mind:xyxwave:
what crazy rant is this.
The queen CAN not nor ever should have any influence on politics under ANY circumstances. Rubbish cliches like " oh boo woo your twisting my words" are as sad as " oh boo woo your trolling poor lil'ol me". Both of which you regularly try.
You said that the queen not only HAS the right ( crap) but OUGHT to get involved....that's not me twisting your words. Not only doesn't she has a right under the constitution ( again there ain't one!!!) but you wanting her to interfere in UK's politics shows what little understanding or respect you have for democracy and due process. Oh and her being commander of the military is strictly CEREMONIAL lol ... again your low opinion of democracy is clearly on display given you think she can call on the military to sort stuff out. Why do I need to point out stuff about your own country. Maybe it's time you left this politics stuff alone :P ... you sound like what you want is a return of the feudal system...a nice modern dictatorship?

[ange7]

He Wrecked this Nation
He Helped the BNP into power (the time before this)
He was in charge of the FSA
and has helped keep this Nation worse of.

New Dead Labour MP's want him gone.

One Good New Labour MP Mann was on the TV this morning
saying he must go.
and Brown lost the Election.

We met the Real Brown calling a Lady a Bigot
and blamed his worker Sue for it, at first.
aristabot is caught in a loop

[arista]

aristabot is caught in a loop


Loop the Loop.


Down Under Times are Hard
must be nice you can pop on here.

[ange7]

Loop the Loop.


Down Under Times are Hard
must be nice you can pop on here.
Times are NOT hard down UNDER.
economy STRONG. labor in power.
I can TALK aristabot

[ange7]

who on earth says owned to themselves? arse.

I'd agree with Dezzy.
actually I said it to angusMcAngus ... lol dezzy wasn't part of any convo I had. hehe
but to answer your on topic question...your mum when she saw your head poke out. Haven't you got some Brittany spears dvds to watch ;P

[Angus]

actually I said it to angusMcAngus ... lol dezzy wasn't part of any convo I had. hehe
but to answer your on topic question...your mum when she saw your head poke out. Haven't you got some Brittany spears dvds to watch ;P

Lol, Angepange now you're disrespecting the Scots (of which I am not one by the way!). Have you learned how to count yet? Must be all those late nights - they take a toll on the old brain cells.:hugesmile:

[WOMBAI]

"Brown must be about to spontaneously combust "


Yes
I want him Crying



Triple Justice

Arista - your hate of Brown sounds so personal - what did he do - murder your mother or something equally as heinous!

[lily.]

Nah not really the parliament at Westminster is the UK government, England unlike Scotland etc doesnt have its own regional assembly. Its that sort of attitude that hacks off the Micks Taffs and porridge ****.

Best get used to the coalition type government and all the deal brokering, because if any form of PR is introduced thats what is going to happen from now on.



May have been a different era but the problems with the economy, unemployment etc were pretty much what we have now.



I have been called many things, but never that.

In fact, I've never even heard of that til just now.

Now I'm conflicted. Should I be offended or honoured?

[InOne]

I have been called many things, but never that.

In fact, I've never even heard of that til just now.

Now I'm conflicted. Should I be offended or honoured?

I kinda thought it might be like calling an Asian a Sand ****** D:

[lily.]

I do like learning new stuff Joe.

Usually I just get generic insults, or if nationality-specific they are usually predictable.

Although, I have been called a Tartan Trollop a few times. That's inventive.

[Shaun]

actually I said it to angusMcAngus ... lol dezzy wasn't part of any convo I had. hehe
but to answer your on topic question...your mum when she saw your head poke out. Haven't you got some Brittany spears dvds to watch ;P

...I don't know where to begin. Gas, maybe.

[Shasown]

...I don't know where to begin. Gas, maybe.

Ricin is quite effective, as is any one of a selection of radioactive isotopes. What you really want is something that wont be easily identified and doesnt really have an effective antidote.

[Shasown]

I have been called many things, but never that.

In fact, I've never even heard of that til just now.

Now I'm conflicted. Should I be offended or honoured?


Honoured, I would say it was fairly inventive , definately doesnt fall into the predictable type of nickname now does it?

[bananarama]

I think it will last more than a year. Long enough for the right wing of the Tories to urge full throttle slash and burn mode.........Then the libs will realise they have commited political suicide associating themselves with the slash and burn brigade........

All Labour has to do is sit back and wait for the repeat of the 1980's and 90's and the Tories and libs will become history for decades to come......

[Angus]

Amazing how many people actually WANT the coalition to fail in order to score party political brownie points. How about hoping instead that it works in the national interest?

[arista]

Amazing how many people actually WANT the coalition to fail in order to score party political brownie points. How about hoping instead that it works in the national interest?



Thats Why David and Nick
are doing so well
they are fully aware of these Old type people.

The New Politics .The New 5 Year Term
is a Revolution of good.

[arista]

"All Labour has to do is sit back and wait for the repeat of the 1980's and 90's and the Tories and libs will become history for decades to come...... "


You are not able to compare.
This is a never been done like this.



As for New Dead Labour
no one knows what they are
Clause 4?
They could be buried for 20 years
buy picking Ed balls the Union Bully.

[Spike]

Major cracks will start to be seen in the next few weeks but both sides of this coalition are so desperate for power that they will make it work as best as they can.
However when the huge cuts start and the parties disagree on them with wide public disapproval then the coalition will start to crumble. I give it 2years maximum, in my opinion we will have a labour majority again in 2011

[bbfan1991]

Amazing how many people actually WANT the coalition to fail in order to score party political brownie points. How about hoping instead that it works in the national interest?

Totally:), people should give them a chance because they can't work their magic over night...

[Angus]

Major cracks will start to be seen in the next few weeks but both sides of this coalition are so desperate for power that they will make it work as best as they can.
However when the huge cuts start and the parties disagree on them with wide public disapproval then the coalition will start to crumble. I give it 2years maximum, in my opinion we will have a labour majority again in 2011

And of course Labour weren't "desperate for power" were they, trying to sabotage the coalition with their shameless attempts at a rainbow coalition?

As for huge cuts, that's what happens when you have had a profligate and incompetent government in power for 13 years who have left this country in massive debt. The latest estimate is £2 TRILLION!

Labour would have had to do exactly the same thing to clean up THEIR mess, or are you suggesting they would have carried on amassing more debt by continuing to do what they do best and borrow like there's no tomorrow? Please, less of the BS and get real.