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Niamh.
12-05-2010, 11:58 AM
I don't know about everyone else but personally I think for the final year (on C4 anyhow) I think they need to take BB back to basics, like it was in the start. By that I mean, really limit contact with the outside world, make them forget about it and focus on the fact that the house is their whole world. The last few years we've seen, ex bfs/gfs going in, current bfs/gfs going in, mothers going in for tasks, previous years HMs going in for tasks, world information been given to the HMs, even last year HMs being sent out on the streets of London and now I hear there's talk of BB11 being linked to some other show as well.

For me all these things have contributed to BBs downfall. BB is no longer a scary faceless ruler and God to the HMs. BB needs to get tough, you break the rules as fundamental as not nominating, you're OUT end of. You have as little contact as is possible with the outside world and we can focus in properly on the house dynamics and relationships like it used to be.

Stu
12-05-2010, 12:01 PM
Big Brother has gone over the top in recent years but that's no reason to go back to basics, IMO. Big Brother needs to go foward or recreate the magic of, say, Big Brother 5. I don't want to go back to 2001.

We need twists. Lots of them. They just need to be well done and well advertised. Go back to basics this year and Big Brother goes out with a whimper.

Braden
12-05-2010, 12:01 PM
I totally agree, especially because of the task in London, what the **** was that about?

And I want them to go back to when there was three warnings and then your out if you get to the third, I think Big Brother has been letting housemates have an easy ride in more current series.

Stu
12-05-2010, 12:04 PM
I totally agree, especially because of the task in London, what the **** was that about?

And I want them to go back to when there was three warnings and then your out if you get to the third, I think Big Brother has been letting housemates have an easy ride in more current series.
What if we had kicked Siavash and Marcus out though, under the three strikes rule?

I don't think it would have helped in the slightest. No, let them rebel. It makes for good TV. Just punish them in bizarre ways afterwards, that also makes for good TV.

Entertaining housemates leaving through the back door makes for piss poor TV.

BigBrotherfan4ever
12-05-2010, 12:06 PM
I don't know about everyone else but personally I think for the final year (on C4 anyhow) I think they need to take BB back to basics, like it was in the start. By that I mean, really limit contact with the outside world, make them forget about it and focus on the fact that the house is their whole world. The last few years we've seen, ex bfs/gfs going in, current bfs/gfs going in, mothers going in for tasks, previous years HMs going in for tasks, world information been given to the HMs, even last year HMs being sent out on the streets of London and now I hear there's talk of BB11 being linked to some other show as well.

For me all these things have contributed to BBs downfall. BB is no longer a scary faceless ruler and God to the HMs. BB needs to get tough, you break the rules as fundamental as not nominating, you're OUT end of. You have as little contact as is possible with the outside world and we can focus in properly on the house dynamics and relationships like it used to be.

I totally agree with you know, but i doubt this will happen:hugesmile:

Niamh.
12-05-2010, 12:06 PM
Big Brother has gone over the top in recent years but that's no reason to go back to basics, IMO. Big Brother needs to go foward or recreate the magic of, say, Big Brother 5. I don't want to go back to 2001.

We need twists. Lots of them. They just need to be well done and well advertised. Go back to basics this year and Big Brother goes out with a whimper.

BB5 was excellent, my second favorite series but they didn't have much outside world contact in that series either, it's only in the last 3/4 years they've started doing that.

And absolutely agree with you on the Twists front, and BB5 is a great example of that, the bedsit twist was fantastic. I can't understand why they haven't done more twists like that, sending in people that the HMs know is a crap and lazy and that's all they've done the last few years

Niamh.
12-05-2010, 12:08 PM
What if we had kicked Siavash and Marcus out though, under the three strikes rule?

I don't think it would have helped in the slightest. No, let them rebel. It makes for good TV. Just punish them in bizarre ways afterwards, that also makes for good TV.

Entertaining housemates leaving through the back door makes for piss poor TV.

Depends on the rule breaking though I think, Siavash was my favorite HM but even still, they should have *****ed him out for not nominating, that's one rule that they shouldn't bend on

Beastie
12-05-2010, 12:11 PM
In terms of back to basics.. well I hope this does not mean the house.. I want the house to be colourful and funky and WOW! However I would love to see the CHICKENS come back for bb11! that would be amazing :D
I agree there should be NO contact what so ever! except ONE letter you get like 2 weeks before the final. Should NOT be a video... or anything!!
Also NO ex boyfriends/gfs, mum, dad, bro, sister, friend, rapist, teacher, colleague you know or anyone at all you know! We want a bunch of complete strangers please!! Also I hope Big Brother's big nose does not happen.. we don't give a sh!t about the housemates family members.. we just want to see the housemates please :) except for family members going on BBLB but that's it!!
Also punishments.. I think if you talk about nominations you are up for eviction straight away! no pussy footing around. Mmm was thinking on your 3rd strike you are out.. however we do want entertaining ones in.. but BB's job is to put ALL entertaining housemates IN.

Stu
12-05-2010, 12:12 PM
BB5 was excellent, my second favorite series but they didn't have much outside world contact in that series either, it's only in the last 3/4 years they've started doing that.

And absolutely agree with you on the Twists front, and BB5 is a great example of that, the bedsit twist was fantastic. I can't understand why they haven't done more twists like that, sending in people that the HMs know is a crap and lazy and that's all they've done the last few years
Well if we are going to define Back To Basics just as not letting in contact with the outside world, then I agree entirely.

Beastie
12-05-2010, 12:14 PM
Also to be honest.. I would not mind if this million pound drop had something to do with BB.. mmm.. I mean BB needs a fresh new format.. a change.. new twists and turns.. however the contact with the outside world should remain NIL POIR.

Niamh.
12-05-2010, 12:15 PM
Well if we are going to define Back To Basics just as not letting in contact with the outside world, then I agree entirely.

Yeah sorry, that's what I meant, and also in the toughen up of BB. BB has to be the boss, the HMs just p*ssed all over BB last year

DrunkerThanMoses
12-05-2010, 12:16 PM
I agree they need to stop information from the outside getting in. They need to be evil and strict like in BB5/BB6. The need good twists that screw with the housemates heads. To me this is a good big brother, but thats my view.

Braden
12-05-2010, 12:17 PM
What if we had kicked Siavash and Marcus out though, under the three strikes rule?

I don't think it would have helped in the slightest. No, let them rebel. It makes for good TV. Just punish them in bizarre ways afterwards, that also makes for good TV.

Entertaining housemates leaving through the back door makes for piss poor TV.

I think that shows that they should of got lots more entertaining housemates last year, instead of dull ****ty ones.

But I think your right about punishing them bizarrely.

Niamh.
12-05-2010, 12:17 PM
Also to be honest.. I would not mind if this million pound drop had something to do with BB.. mmm.. I mean BB needs a fresh new format.. a change.. new twists and turns.. however the contact with the outside world should remain NIL POIR.

Not sure if I'm too keen on that idea but I don't know enough about that show and what exactly the link between the 2 will be to have much of an opinion on it yet

Beastie
12-05-2010, 12:18 PM
Yeah sorry, that's what I meant, and also in the toughen up of BB. BB has to be the boss, the HMs just p*ssed all over BB last year

I think it is because some of them didn't care about the money.. especially Sophie.. but she knew she would get paid more than the 100 grand when she leaves BB because usually the "glamour models" do..

So anyways this is when the million pound drop comes in.. I do think if there is a million quid to be won.. EVERYONE would want to stay in BB and have a chance to win that money!! a staggering amount. The million pound drop could bring in plenty of viewers.. the show being twisted in a twist relating to BB and.. well I just have really good hopes for the show now! :D all we have to do is "wait and see.."

Stu
12-05-2010, 12:18 PM
I actually don't think BB needs to change at all. It's too late for a new format. I think trying to recreate the glory days would be a better idea. Get back the 2m+ who buggered off and pull in a new generation with classic, trashy BB.

Niamh.
12-05-2010, 12:21 PM
I agree they need to stop information from the outside getting in. They need to be evil and strict like in BB5/BB6. The need good twists that screw with the housemates heads. To me this is a good big brother, but thats my view.

exactly, and this is what most BB fans want but they don't seem to listen at all, I mean if they read through some of the ideas and opinions posted here and probably DS last year, they could have used alot of it to make this years show brilliant and just what we all want!

Beastie
12-05-2010, 12:21 PM
I actually don't think BB needs to change at all. It's too late for a new format. I think trying to recreate the glory days would be a better idea. Get back the 2m+ who buggered off and pull in a new generation with classic, trashy BB.

Yeah but.. mmm... it just depends what housemates we get I suppose.. I just think the housemates will be more scared of BB and play by the rules if there is like a million quid to be won. Whatever they do I am looking forward to it. Having the best, entertaining housemates should be number 1 priority!!

DrunkerThanMoses
12-05-2010, 12:26 PM
exactly, and this is what most BB fans want but they don't seem to listen at all, I mean if they read through some of the ideas and opinions posted here and probably DS last year, they could have used alot of it to make this years show brilliant and just what we all want!

I thought last years was the best that they had done in a while. It had a war between groups, fake romance, Norian the flirt, some good entertaing housemates, maybe some parts where crap like Issac going in, but I think its a underrated series.

This year I want bitching, back stabing, punishments, good intresting twists. That to me makes a good series.

None of this crap that wannabe celbes like jedward going in.

Beastie
12-05-2010, 12:30 PM
I thought last years was the best that they had done in a while. It had a war between groups, fake romance, Norian the flirt, some good entertaing housemates, maybe some parts where crap like Issac going in, but I think its a underrated series.

This year I want bitching, back stabing, punishments, good intresting twists. That to me makes a good series.

None of this crap that wannabe celbes like jedward going in.

I think bb10 would have been better if Lisa's group was not that big.. because Freddie's camp had no one... It is like.. team chav won to be honest.. so I suppose we need less chavs for bb11..

Niamh.
12-05-2010, 12:30 PM
I thought last years was the best that they had done in a while. It had a war between groups, fake romance, Norian the flirt, some good entertaing housemates, maybe some parts where crap like Issac going in, but I think its a underrated series.

This year I want bitching, back stabing, punishments, good intresting twists. That to me makes a good series.

None of this crap that wannabe celbes like jedward going in.

No doubt that last year had a brilliant group of HMs, as much as I disliked most of them, they were brilliant, annoying, bullies, eccentric,flirty, they had it all but unfortunately BB didn't capitalize on them enough, they could have made it one of the best series with a little bit more thought and imagination but in the end it was the HMs who carried it and made it just work.

DrunkerThanMoses
12-05-2010, 12:31 PM
I think bb10 would have been better if Lisa's group was not that big.. because Freddie's camp had no one... It is like.. team chav won to be honest.. so I suppose we need less chavs for bb11..

I wouldnt bank on less chavs! Their like god to the producers

Niamh.
12-05-2010, 12:32 PM
I wouldnt bank on less chavs! Their like god to the producers

and Davina loves them too

DrunkerThanMoses
12-05-2010, 12:34 PM
and Davina loves them too

If i wanted to watch a bunch of retarded chavs shouting at one another I would watch the jermery **** kyle show

Beastie
12-05-2010, 12:44 PM
If i wanted to watch a bunch of retarded chavs shouting at one another I would watch the jermery **** kyle show

:hugesmile:

Well just have to wait and see really.. need like 14 completely different people.. not some of them who are chavs or god knows what!! Anywho I am getting excited!!

Eww Jeremy Vile.. I much prefer watching The Wright Stuff!

Niamh.
12-05-2010, 12:45 PM
If i wanted to watch a bunch of retarded chavs shouting at one another I would watch the jermery **** kyle show

That's the way it's gone though with the likes of Sophie and Brian Bello winning though, the whole Chavy and stupid thing being cool

Beastie
12-05-2010, 12:47 PM
That's the way it's gone though with the likes of Sophie and Brian Bello winning though, the whole Chavy and stupid thing being cool

lol.

Actually they have never really put in an "emo" lol. Or.. a farmer.. or.. a doctor?? mmm a doctor.. no chance really for BB..

Niamh.
12-05-2010, 12:52 PM
lol.

Actually they have never really put in an "emo" lol. Or.. a farmer.. or.. a doctor?? mmm a doctor.. no chance really for BB..

haha, I doubt they get a lot of Doctors applying though:joker:

Beastie
12-05-2010, 12:56 PM
haha, I doubt they get a lot of Doctors applying though:joker:

But.. BB send out letter and that to people who don't usually apply for BB. I think this is how Freddie got on because Freddie didn't really know much about BB and was not a fan of the show.. but he was something different than the usual chavs auditioning or the eccentric ones such as Siavash being desperate enough to be centre of attention! They could send some letters or whatever to doctors.. maybe a Cambridge/Oxford graduate.. okay that's a bit like Freddie.. maybe invite some farmers to audition who live in the middle of nowhere!! Mmm what else can I zink of.. maybe someone who has like 10 kids.. lol! :hugesmile:

Niamh.
12-05-2010, 12:59 PM
But.. BB send out letter and that to people who don't usually apply for BB. I think this is how Freddie got on because Freddie didn't really know much about BB and was not a fan of the show.. but he was something different than the usual chavs auditioning or the eccentric ones such as Siavash being desperate enough to be centre of attention! They could send some letters or whatever to doctors.. maybe a Cambridge/Oxford graduate.. okay that's a bit like Freddie.. maybe invite some farmers to audition who live in the middle of nowhere!! Mmm what else can I zink of.. maybe someone who has like 10 kids.. lol! :hugesmile:

haha, someone with 10 kids would be really laid back and think it's like a holiday camp I reckon!:joker:

Joe.
12-05-2010, 01:00 PM
Well BB9 & 10 didn't have massive twists- the London task was naff and so was sending in magazines for them to read. I loved BB9's Heaven and Hell task.

Beastie
12-05-2010, 01:00 PM
haha, someone with 10 kids would be really laid back and think it's like a holiday camp I reckon!:joker:

Lol yeah probs.. or they could work their arse off and try and get the million quid reward..

Niamh.
12-05-2010, 01:02 PM
Well BB9 & 10 didn't have massive twists- the London task was naff and so was sending in magazines for them to read. I loved BB9's Heaven and Hell task.

Yeah, twists and good twists are badly needed. They've been lazy and uninventive the last few years

Joe.
12-05-2010, 01:40 PM
Yeah, twists and good twists are badly needed. They've been lazy and uninventive the last few years

This. I would love BB11 to have something we've never seen before, controversial and attention grabbing! BB9 and 10 haven't had much as I've said in my past post. Infact BB10 didn't have a twist at all except for the launch night twist, I'd like more than one twist- one on launch night and one half through which brings more housemates!

Beastie
12-05-2010, 01:44 PM
This. I would love BB11 to have something we've never seen before, controversial and attention grabbing! BB9 and 10 haven't had much as I've said in my past post. Infact BB10 didn't have a twist at all except for the launch night twist, I'd like more than one twist- one on launch night and one half through which brings more housemates!

The new big twist will be relating to the Million Pound Drop I bet..

Niamh.
12-05-2010, 01:46 PM
This. I would love BB11 to have something we've never seen before, controversial and attention grabbing! BB9 and 10 haven't had much as I've said in my past post. Infact BB10 didn't have a twist at all except for the launch night twist, I'd like more than one twist- one on launch night and one half through which brings more housemates!

and the launch night twist was stupid as well, I mean we didn't know any of the HMs at that stage so voting one out already was a crap idea. Some sneaky twists are what I want to see, more along the lines of the bedsit in BB5 as Stu said earlier.

Also, planting an actual mole in there would be good, an actor like to wind the HMs up and cause some friction hehe

Joe.
12-05-2010, 02:21 PM
The new big twist will be relating to the Million Pound Drop I bet..

Probably not. Just because i's on the last week of may and presented by Davina dosen't neccisarily mean it's linked to BB.

Beastie
12-05-2010, 03:11 PM
Probably not. Just because i's on the last week of may and presented by Davina dosen't neccisarily mean it's linked to BB.

It is a theory though. WATCH OUT.

Patrick
12-05-2010, 04:17 PM
This depends..

Yes its good on one hand, take it back to the VERY Strict Big Brother I mean in BB10 the housemates walked all over Big Brother.

BB Needs to show them who is boss again.

Yes, no contact with the outside world AT ALL I mean.. No letters from home, certainly no holograms, no ****ing day trips to london and no Ex BF/GFs going in.

So thats good.



HOWEVER, Back to Basics shouldnt like this..


The BB1 House, very boring, dull, and just depressing.
I Want it to be fun, I mean back to basics shouldnt have like really old furniture.

I have a feeling BB11 will be back to basics, because its like the slogan is..

'In with the old and out with the new'

Back to Basics just makes me think of a cold, ugly, dull house with a boring eye and a boring series and all very basic.

I mean we have all moved on from BB1, theres nothing wrong with going back to the way it was with twists and stuff, but no way should they go back to 'The olden days' when its 2010.

Niamh.
12-05-2010, 04:19 PM
No Patrick I wasn't talking about Basics as in house decor and that and yeah BB1 I thought was boring as ***** as well.

Patrick
12-05-2010, 04:20 PM
And absolutely agree with you on the Twists front, and BB5 is a great example of that, the bedsit twist was fantastic. I can't understand why they haven't done more twists like that..


Probably because it resulted in one of the biggest fights in the shows history..

As entertaining as it was, I dont think C4 would want that on their hands, the boring bastards.

Niamh.
12-05-2010, 04:23 PM
Probably because it resulted in one of the biggest fights in the shows history..

As entertaining as it was, I dont think C4 would want that on their hands, the boring bastards.

Yeah I know it did but *****ing hell, riveting viewing!! They need some good, good twists

Patrick
12-05-2010, 04:24 PM
Well BB9 & 10 didn't have massive twists

Uh and BB8 Did?

BB9 had alot more twists going on than BB8.

Jordan.
12-05-2010, 04:26 PM
Agreed with the outside contact situation BB10 was ridiculous. Davina did the annoucements from the studio so they couldnt hear the crowd yet there sending them out around London and sending in boyfriends?

I think they should bring back zero tolerance, BB10 just took the mick with them breaking the rules and BB doing nothing about it, i hope to see a lot more people getting ejected this year!

Also get rid of the ****ty tokens!

Beastie
12-05-2010, 04:36 PM
Agreed with the outside contact situation BB10 was ridiculous. Davina did the annoucements from the studio so they couldnt hear the crowd yet there sending them out around London and sending in boyfriends?

I think they should bring back zero tolerance, BB10 just took the mick with them breaking the rules and BB doing nothing about it, i hope to see a lot more people getting ejected this year!

Also get rid of the ****ty tokens!

This.