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Fetch The Bolt Cutters
12-05-2010, 07:33 PM
the thread about caroles vt just reminded me about this. doesnt it piss you off when people seem like really great housemates on their vt but are actually nothing like that? i only started watching at BB6 and i was like OMG i love this girl with vanessa from that year but she was as boring as a yawning hippo in the house!

Ross
12-05-2010, 07:34 PM
Alot of the time they can't be the way they are in their VT's due to many things. Maybe they're being overshadowed by other housemates, maybe the editing on them is bad and we don't see them being the person they were on their VT.

Fetch The Bolt Cutters
12-05-2010, 07:35 PM
Alot of the time they can't be the way they are in their VT's due to many things. Maybe they're being overshadowed by other housemates, maybe the editing on them is bad and we don't see them being the person they were on their VT.

or maybe they just act like that on their vt to get into the house :dance:

Ross
12-05-2010, 07:39 PM
or maybe they just act like that on their vt to get into the house :dance:

Well never, Shirlock.

Fetch The Bolt Cutters
12-05-2010, 07:42 PM
Well never, Shirlock.

:eureka:

Braden
12-05-2010, 07:44 PM
I agree, I judged Vanessa as my favourite from all six series by her VT, and then she really disappointed me in the house :/

LemonJam
12-05-2010, 07:44 PM
You have to remember that VT's will be heavily edited to create an initial impression of a character. Prime example being Sophia last year being portrayed as this lovely short girl, but not much mention of a temper.

Patrick
12-05-2010, 07:45 PM
LOL Like Rachel.

"I'd Swap you for scrabble"

Fetch The Bolt Cutters
12-05-2010, 07:46 PM
I agree, I judged Vanessa as my favourite from all six series by her VT, and then she really disappointed me in the house :/

ikr it was the first time i had ever seen BB on launch night of BB6 and when i saw vanessas vt i was like omg my life is complete :elephant:

Jordan.
12-05-2010, 07:46 PM
I think everyone will over do their audition abit

I remeber Maysoon (BB9 if you forgot ;)) she was like "I live life on the edge" then she gets in the house and disappears.

Yeah it does annoy me i dont get why BB pick these people.

Fetch The Bolt Cutters
12-05-2010, 07:48 PM
You have to remember that VT's will be heavily edited to create an initial impression of a character. Prime example being Sophia last year being portrayed as this lovely short girl, but not much mention of a temper.

sophia was a better hm that i expected actually. im a nice person and i do like nice people but im sorry i want the BB house to be bursting with bitches and bastards

Fetch The Bolt Cutters
12-05-2010, 07:49 PM
I think everyone will over do their audition abit

I remeber Maysoon (BB9 if you forgot ;)) she was like "I live life on the edge" then she gets in the house and disappears.

Yeah it does annoy me i dont get why BB pick these people.

i actually didnt know who you talking about :joker:

Picasims
12-05-2010, 09:19 PM
Sometimes they also exaggerate certain parts of their personnality (Mikey, with his misogynistic views, probably Vanessa too).
Bonnie's VT was boring and she was boring. I still wonder why they chose her.

Nicklol123
12-05-2010, 09:37 PM
Yeah but BB8 VT's were created before the Launch and after the auditions.

ILoveTRW
12-05-2010, 09:40 PM
Dawn and Dale are the only 2 (that i can think of) that actually bare faced lied in there audition
however a lot of housemates have over acted there personalities to get on

rk3388
12-05-2010, 09:42 PM
bb7 was the king of fake vts

1.mikey-acting really sexist
2.dawn-acting depressed
3.aisleyne- acting like a b****
4.susie- i know she didnt have one but she told them she was always horny
5.hate to say it but bonnie-wasnt really that funny

should i go on?

Nicklol123
12-05-2010, 09:48 PM
bb7 was the king of fake vts

1.mikey-acting really sexist
2.dawn-acting depressed
3.aisleyne- acting like a b****
4.susie- i know she didnt have one but she told them she was always horny
5.hate to say it but bonnie-wasnt really that funny

should i go on?
But i'm glad Aisleyne realised she was a bitch back then.
Some may say she still is, but I like her!

Fetch The Bolt Cutters
12-05-2010, 10:07 PM
i thought bonnies vt was hilarious!

IM SEXEH IM FUNNEH, EVRYFIN AN EVRYFIN :joker:

rk3388
12-05-2010, 10:11 PM
i thought bonnies vt was hilarious!

IM SEXEH IM FUNNEH, EVRYFIN AN EVRYFIN :joker:

haha, come on boys, bonnehs here *starts rubbing belly*

Jordan.
12-05-2010, 10:21 PM
i thought bonnies vt was hilarious!

IM SEXEH IM FUNNEH, EVRYFIN AN EVRYFIN :joker:

Lmfao!

Im Bonneh, Bonneh? no Bonnie.

she should have stayed she was so thick it was hilarious.

BBDodge
12-05-2010, 10:28 PM
The purpose of the vt is to get fans booing and cheering on the opening night.

It has less and less and eventually no significance as the show continues and we judge the HMs on what we see in the House.

And it's what we see in the House (as much as we are allowed to see) that determines the winner.

*mazedsalv**
12-05-2010, 10:29 PM
Bonnie, Vanessa, Laura, Mikey, Dale, Carole etc....

Bonnie made it seem she would be funny, Vanessa that she would be entertaining, Laura that she would be loud, funny and the mad Welsh one (epic fail), Mikey and Dale- Acting very arrogant when Mikey wasnt really like that, and Dale didnt do anything like he said in the VT "I'm gonna nail it" etc.... Jen as well.... turned into a bitch.

Ones that turned out to be best, were Aisleyne, acted like a complete bitch in the VT, and became my fave housemate ever.

rk3388
12-05-2010, 10:30 PM
haha and when she got the chance to win clothes back " uhh, i want my pink sweater.. the pink hoodie sweater, it has a zipper and a logo and its pink, and has pockets" and then glyn just said "blue sweater, jeans, red shirt, welsh shirt" ect.

ElProximo
12-05-2010, 10:42 PM
the thread about caroles vt just reminded me about this. doesnt it piss you off when people seem like really great housemates on their vt but are actually nothing like that? i only started watching at BB6 and i was like OMG i love this girl with vanessa from that year but she was as boring as a yawning hippo in the house!

Well of course you make a good observation and complaint although I'd say there are some cases I see an explanation.

Contrary to popular opinion I think BB9 Rachel was not 'acting' her VT and that actually was her personality WHEN excited and that she genuinely was 'muted' when overwhelmed by negativity.

Someone else mentioned it can also be the VT is the 'real person' but the house is where they are 'not their true personality' and sometimes its not a deliberate put-on but a psychological 'defense' too.

But I do think you are right to complain a few have been seen putting on a 'character' they practiced for auditions but after getting through the doors it appears they were now 'off-stage' and then just sat about being themselves... which were NOT the 'VT Characters' at all.

Even though I find our BB is really fair with editing overall (compare to the blatantly obvious editing manipulations on BBUSA),
but,
even still, you can tell they will edit some HMs to show you just a certain kind of side of them sometimes.
Example:
- You could see our previous example BB9 Rachel spending plenty of time engaging with everyone, splashing about, all joking and getting along,
but,
the clip show would tend to show you the incident where she girly-giggled about loving Disney characters,
and,
when she chastised Rex for being too cruel to someone.
Those were her 2 highlight clips.

Another thing to keep in mind is that BB has made a living out of DELIBERATELY CHOOSING the fake VT people,
and,
we have loved it!
We WANT to see that 'obvious fake' granted their wishes and then have a great big laugh when they are exposed for who they really are.
That it makes you angry to see VT phonies is actually part of the plan.

But agreed - your real complaint is the total do-nothings. They were not only fake personalities but then had NO personalities after all.

keithafc
12-05-2010, 11:56 PM
Contrary to popular opinion I think BB9 Rachel was not 'acting' her VT and that actually was her personality WHEN excited and that she genuinely was 'muted' when overwhelmed by negativity.
No one is going to believe that mate, so don't even go there. To this day, Rachel is one of the worst winners in the history of reality TV and one of the most boring people on TV.

The VT can be vital. It can decide a lot of things. Dales VT in BB 9 sounded like one of those no nonsense people, Rachel sounded like a bubbly character but turned out to be terrible.

ElProximo
13-05-2010, 12:20 AM
No one is going to believe that mate, so don't even go there. To this day, Rachel is one of the worst winners in the history of reality TV and one of the most boring people on TV.

The VT can be vital. It can decide a lot of things. Dales VT in BB 9 sounded like one of those no nonsense people, Rachel sounded like a bubbly character but turned out to be terrible.

OH I went there. We ARE there. I don't believe you. Not that I think your lying but I think you are just a poor judge of character and personality in this case.

In fact, when excited by announcements, prizes, exciting contests OR even when giddy with people she felt safe with - Rachel DID behave that way and did so spontaneously.
That DID happen. Often enough to see it was a natural way of her personality.

Like I said - you could have seen PLENTY of situations where that is exactly how she was behaving in instances throughout the day,
but,
yes, she became 'muted' and subdued whenever there was a negative incident, bullying especially or any kind of challenge.
This is not 'weird'.
This is not 'incongruous'.
This is actually something you can expect from that kind of personality.
Sanguine personalities are often extremely giddy and bubbly in happy situations and swing to the extreme in unhappy or threatening situations. This is normal.

Maybe you think Rex was the 'real deal' and that would confirm you just don't know what you are looking at. I'd be worrying you will get swindled and duped by hustlers and schemers who will definitely identify you as someone who cannot read people properly.

keithafc
13-05-2010, 01:44 AM
Mate, its well known in general by people who watched the series, not just views on forums but also off forums/internet that Rachel was one of the worst and most boring house mates of all time.

She stood on the fence, came out with comments which you would think are impossible for a person trying to be a teacher to come out with (really stupid things). She played the game well and there you go but anyone trying to make Rachel out to be some sort of fantastic house mate, is just deluding themselves.

ElProximo
13-05-2010, 07:47 AM
Mate, its well known in general by people who watched the series, not just views on forums but also off forums/internet that Rachel was one of the worst and most boring house mates of all time.

She stood on the fence, came out with comments which you would think are impossible for a person trying to be a teacher to come out with (really stupid things). She played the game well and there you go but anyone trying to make Rachel out to be some sort of fantastic house mate, is just deluding themselves.


Yes but that is NOT the same as supposing her VT was insincere 'acting'. I say her VT actually DID represent her personality in excitable happy situations and that was seen repeatedly during the summer.

As for her being one of the worst and most boring HMs?
Nope.
Not even close.
IF you want to try and challenge me with the popularity poll then you REALLY make an epic fail.
She won BB9.
By public vote.
Read that again.
IF you want to try and determine this by taking a poll then the poll is already done - SHE WON BB9.
And that was the people who PUT THEIR MONEY WHERE THERE MOUTH WAS.
That was just the most people who PAID to say it.

But as for what most people on TIBB said... yep, I think most here thought she was dull.
Not 'the dullest' but she did get low ratings for excitement here on TIBB,
but,
yep, plenty of us think she was great and especially in the last half of the season.
Her smoking hot body was definitely NOT boring either.

But yeah.. if you want to talk about 'whos buying what' then just remember she WON THE BB9 POPULARITY POLL.
People PAID to give her the most votes.

biggestbrother
13-05-2010, 06:24 PM
Remember Bonnie. Bonnehh. Her VT was THE most misleading ever. "Even Davina will be at home flickin her bean!"

Zippy
13-05-2010, 06:46 PM
Well you have to remember that the VTs are made to grab attention over thousands of others. So yeah, theyre gonna exaggerate. Some more than others.

Plus you never know what the dynamics are gonna be between people so they may just not rub up against those types that annoy them enough.

But basically, the VTs are mostly irrelevant.

Fetch The Bolt Cutters
13-05-2010, 06:50 PM
Remember Bonnie. Bonnehh. Her VT was THE most misleading ever. "Even Davina will be at home flickin her bean!"

and then when her VT finished davina stood there with a coffe bean on her hand "here is my bean" and flicked it off :joker: best davina moment ever!

keithafc
13-05-2010, 07:21 PM
Yes but that is NOT the same as supposing her VT was insincere 'acting'. I say her VT actually DID represent her personality in excitable happy situations and that was seen repeatedly during the summer.

As for her being one of the worst and most boring HMs?
Nope.
Not even close.
IF you want to try and challenge me with the popularity poll then you REALLY make an epic fail.
She won BB9.
By public vote.
Read that again.
IF you want to try and determine this by taking a poll then the poll is already done - SHE WON BB9.
And that was the people who PUT THEIR MONEY WHERE THERE MOUTH WAS.
That was just the most people who PAID to say it.

But as for what most people on TIBB said... yep, I think most here thought she was dull.
Not 'the dullest' but she did get low ratings for excitement here on TIBB,
but,
yep, plenty of us think she was great and especially in the last half of the season.
Her smoking hot body was definitely NOT boring either.

But yeah.. if you want to talk about 'whos buying what' then just remember she WON THE BB9 POPULARITY POLL.
People PAID to give her the most votes.
lol mate, she is one of the worst Hms in history. Give me all your poll **** all day long, i judge by what i see and from MANY MANY people, have also said the same thing.

She wasn't just dull to people on here, she was dull to people on DS, dull to people if you talked about it off the internet. She was rubbish. The only reason she won was because the competition was rubbish.

ElProximo
13-05-2010, 10:41 PM
lol mate, she is one of the worst Hms in history. Give me all your poll **** all day long, i judge by what i see and from MANY MANY people, have also said the same thing.

She wasn't just dull to people on here, she was dull to people on DS, dull to people if you talked about it off the internet. She was rubbish. The only reason she won was because the competition was rubbish.

So she won the most votes. MANY MANY many votes. By a greater % than 'the people you talked to'.
So that tells us your 'polls' were off.

But now you have another problem. You agree she was the most popular HM in the UK but only because her competition were rubbish.
Wait?
But you said she was the worst HM?
Now you are saying the other HMs were worse than her.

So which is it?