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DrunkerThanMoses
14-05-2010, 09:35 AM
I always woundered why some words are bad to say?

Like people say they sound dirty, but the word mud is dirty, and thats not a swear word!

I was woundering why some certian words are considered bad?

I mean who the hell said some words were bad to say?

God, Jesus, Moses, The Queen?

teamandre
14-05-2010, 09:37 AM
no its all the wird people that dont like swearing but yet they swear them selfs but theres nothing wrong with it

Niamh.
14-05-2010, 09:37 AM
It was Moses I think.

Kerry
14-05-2010, 10:29 AM
No idea. It's a strange one. Plus why are some considered worse than others?

teamandre
14-05-2010, 10:53 AM
there all the same really just with differnt meanings to te word if ya get what i mean

Stu
14-05-2010, 11:05 AM
It goes back to a more conservative age. Talking openly about sex like we do nowdays even half a century ago was a little odd. Nevermind using word derived from sexual acts.

I reckon as the generations go along, swear words are getting less and less serious due to sheer overexposure. They are now just thrown around to describe anything, no matter how trivial, and are rightly becoming a bit pantomine. Tis' fun.

I hate the assumpion that people swear because they want to look hard or they lack the vocab to express themselves without swearing.

Then of course you have words that are offensive because of historical reasons [the N word, say].




But of course, that's just my ****ing opinion.

_Seth
14-05-2010, 11:43 AM
They were invented and considered bad so that when we used them, one knows we're serious. They're good for emphasis.

eye sea
14-05-2010, 11:55 AM
I rarely swear. But when I do I'll say afterwards, "It's enough to make a vicar swear..."

Crimson Dynamo
14-05-2010, 01:17 PM
swearing is for oiks

young people trying to appear "cool"

and twats

Ramsay
14-05-2010, 01:26 PM
i always swear
and no its not to look cool
its just gotten to point of habit now
im so used to saying fu ck and sh it
fuccck da polllice

Crimson Dynamo
14-05-2010, 01:34 PM
i always swear
and no its not to look cool
its just gotten to point of habit now
im so used to saying fu ck and sh it
fuccck da polllice

when you grow up you will cease with the profanity

Ramsay
14-05-2010, 01:35 PM
im 18:laugh:

Niamh.
14-05-2010, 01:38 PM
Maybe because one of the commandments was thou shalt not take the Lords name in vain, so if you did you were swearing?

Crimson Dynamo
14-05-2010, 01:41 PM
im 18:laugh:

yes?

lol at you thinking your a grown up..:hugesmile:

Ramsay
14-05-2010, 01:52 PM
what makes you think im not an adult?
because i swear?
man im pretty sure more adults swear then dont..

Beastie
14-05-2010, 01:54 PM
what makes you think im not an adult?
because i swear?
man im pretty sure more adults swear then dont..

This.

Lucy.
14-05-2010, 01:57 PM
SOME people may swear to look cool but not everyone does. & 18 is an adult <_<

Beso
14-05-2010, 02:07 PM
In scotland, the word see you en tea, is used as a term of endearment.

Crimson Dynamo
14-05-2010, 02:08 PM
SOME people may swear to look cool but not everyone does. & 18 is an adult <_<

so if you are not swearing for effect what is the reason for adding words into a sentence that are unrelated and superfluous?

18 is not an adult, it may be if you tiresomely want to be legalistic but until you have children and own a house i would suggest you have a bit to go.

(it would make a good thread)

Crimson Dynamo
14-05-2010, 02:09 PM
In scotland, the word see you en tea, is used as a term of endearment.

only for D and E social classes perhaps

Beso
14-05-2010, 02:11 PM
only for D and E social classes perhaps

No, i have sound see you en teas as friends, and funny sea you en teas that make me laugh..cool see you en teas are rare, but there all the same..my apprentice is a daft see you en tea, and a funny see you en tea at times as well.

Crimson Dynamo
14-05-2010, 02:13 PM
No, i have sound see you en teas as friends, and funny sea you en teas that make me laugh..cool see you en teas are rare, but there all the same..my apprentice is a daft see you en tea, and a funny see you en tea at times as well.

get a grip of yourself

Claymores
14-05-2010, 02:14 PM
In scotland, the word see you en tea, is used as a term of endearment.

Ha beso - I had a German pal @ New Year and took the bloke to a Nrw Year house party - every 2nd word was f or c you effin c - the gerry thought there was a fight breaking oot until I told him it is just how Scots speak to each other!

Beso
14-05-2010, 02:15 PM
get a grip of yourself



you calling me a wanker.:bawling:

Claymores
14-05-2010, 02:17 PM
you calling me a wanker.:bawling:

LT sees white military jumbos deep deep in the highlinds - nuff said beso

Beso
14-05-2010, 02:18 PM
Ha beso - I had a German pal @ New Year and took the bloke to a Nrw Year house party - every 2nd word was f or c you effin c - the gerry thought there was a fight breaking oot until I told him it is just how Scots speak to each other!



I'm not surprised he thought that, we're a starnge breed right enough..wierd see you en teas..

Beastie
14-05-2010, 02:21 PM
Swear words are slang......MOST people use them.. I think the people who use them to look "cool" are teenagers really.. when you pick up the words when starting secondary school and that!

A minority use f uck in like every sentence.. or when being crude and talking about.. well.. sex and sh!t.

Swear words are good to use to express yourself.. or talking about stuff.. well really to be honest they just come out... like a burb or fart! lol :)

Niamh.
14-05-2010, 02:24 PM
so if you are not swearing for effect what is the reason for adding words into a sentence that are unrelated and superfluous?

18 is not an adult, it may be if you tiresomely want to be legalistic but until you have children and own a house i would suggest you have a bit to go.

(it would make a good thread)

People do swear for effect of course, just like they make hand gestures for effect, doesn't mean they do it "to be cool"

GypsyGoth
14-05-2010, 02:26 PM
18 is not an adult, it may be if you tiresomely want to be legalistic but until you have children and own a house i would suggest you have a bit to go.



It has nothing to do with having kids. Being an adult means you are fully grown.

Crimson Dynamo
14-05-2010, 02:31 PM
It has nothing to do with having kids. Being an adult means you are fully grown.

many people are still growing at 18 though

Crimson Dynamo
14-05-2010, 02:32 PM
People do swear for effect of course, just like they make hand gestures for effect, doesn't mean they do it "to be cool"

why do they do it


everytime i hear a profanity it is for effect. to make the person who hears it think in some flattering way about the sayer

Jessica.
14-05-2010, 02:33 PM
I'm a teenager and I have never felt the need to swear to be "cool". :/

Crimson Dynamo
14-05-2010, 02:34 PM
I'm a teenager and I have never felt the need to swear to be "cool". :/

It is good to hear that you do not stoop to use profanities

Beastie
14-05-2010, 02:35 PM
I'm a teenager and I have never felt the need to swear to be "cool". :/

Not you but probs most in the term of "cool" but really swear words are just words you pick up on :) The people who rarely use them probs have more self control! lol

Jessica.
14-05-2010, 02:36 PM
It is good to hear that you do not stoop to use profanities

:blush:

Jessica.
14-05-2010, 02:36 PM
Not you but probs most in the term of "cool" but really swear words are just words you pick up on :) The people who rarely use them probs have more self control! lol

I know some people use them without thinking like if they hurt themselves but I would just say "ow". :joker:

Claymores
14-05-2010, 02:37 PM
It is good to hear that you do not stoop to use profanities

eff off you c!!! JOKE LT

Crimson Dynamo
14-05-2010, 02:38 PM
eff off you c!!! JOKE LT

gfys

Beastie
14-05-2010, 02:38 PM
I know some people use them without thinking like if they hurt themselves but I would just say "ow". :joker:

Lol yes.. I would say "Sh!t" usually.

Niamh.
14-05-2010, 02:39 PM
why do they do it


everytime i hear a profanity it is for effect. to make the person who hears it think in some flattering way about the sayer

for extra emphasis, that's why I do it anyhow. Like if something not pleasing happens, I might say "Oh for *****s sake!" I could say "Oh Darn it" but this would be a very alien phrase for me to use, just purely because of what language I've always been exposed to.

and in answer to your second point, alot of times when I swear I'm on my own in the car, so my swearing certainly isn't for anyone elses benefit

Beso
14-05-2010, 02:40 PM
:nono:

Beso
14-05-2010, 02:41 PM
Why do most people sing the swear word in a song slightly louder than the other words!

Claymores
14-05-2010, 02:42 PM
Why do most people sing the swear word in a song slightly louder than the other words!

Guess not a footie fan

Beso
14-05-2010, 02:43 PM
I'm a hearts you know what.

Claymores
14-05-2010, 02:46 PM
I'm a hearts you know what.
The talk of the toon are the boys in Maroon?

Beso
14-05-2010, 02:47 PM
am jist a fat jambo bastard!...more apt for the topic

Crimson Dynamo
14-05-2010, 02:49 PM
for extra emphasis, that's why I do it anyhow. Like if something not pleasing happens, I might say "Oh for *****s sake!" I could say "Oh Darn it" but this would be a very alien phrase for me to use, just purely because of what language I've always been exposed to.

and in answer to your second point, alot of times when I swear I'm on my own in the car, so my swearing certainly isn't for anyone elses benefit

it is very un-ladylike to swear

you also should be setting an example to your children

Beso
14-05-2010, 02:50 PM
you're celtic are you not claymore?, if my memory serves me right!

Claymores
14-05-2010, 02:50 PM
am jist a fat jambo bastard!...more apt for the topic

Off topic then - We are the EF, the EEFC - In Methil's fair city...

Crimson Dynamo
14-05-2010, 02:50 PM
you're celtic are you not claymore?, if my memory serves me right!

Claymores is a Jungle Jim?

Beso
14-05-2010, 02:52 PM
ah, a fifer..anywhere near bridge of allen?, I'm not sure of scotland north of edinburgh.

Niamh.
14-05-2010, 02:53 PM
it is very un-ladylike to swear

you also should be setting an example to your children

Un lady like? Pull yourself out of the dark ages for a minute will you!

My children don't swear but I can tell you that in setting examples to my children, swearing is way down the list.

Claymores
14-05-2010, 02:54 PM
you're celtic are you not claymore?, if my memory serves me right!
hahahaha - no I HATE Orange Secular hatred of the minoriry Catholic population in my area - does not make me a Tim - I have no religion, just hate Orange Batwards - I run Tricola past the huns every Orange march from my car

Crimson Dynamo
14-05-2010, 02:55 PM
ah, a fifer..anywhere near bridge of allen?, I'm not sure of scotland north of edinburgh.

Bridge of Allan is Stirling - wrong end of the Ochils.

Crimson Dynamo
14-05-2010, 02:56 PM
Un lady like? Pull yourself out of the dark ages for a minute will you!

My children don't swear but I can tell you that in setting examples to my children, swearing is way down the list.


Next you will be drinking pints...

Beso
14-05-2010, 02:56 PM
they will swear wqhen they are older, or outside the house niamhxo...do you think?

It's not really that big a deal nowadays anyway. Unless some posh aunties visiting. Then you don't want one of them coming bursting into the house yelling that "stuarts just **** in the tatties"!

Makes for a good story at family parties later in life though.

Niamh.
14-05-2010, 02:57 PM
Next you will be drinking pints...

haha, no but only cos I worked in a bar and saw what they did to draught beer!

Jessica.
14-05-2010, 02:58 PM
I didn't mention everyone in my family swears a lot, it doesn't mean if a parent swears their children will too.

Beso
14-05-2010, 02:58 PM
Bridge of Allan is Stirling - wrong end of the Ochils.



SEE, I have never even heard of the ochiles..I'm a border lad.

Crimson Dynamo
14-05-2010, 02:58 PM
haha, no but only cos I worked in a bar and saw what they did to draught beer!

mmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

beeeeeeeeeer

Niamh.
14-05-2010, 02:59 PM
they will swear wqhen they are older, or outside the house niamhxo...do you think?

It's not really that big a deal nowadays anyway. Unless some posh aunties visiting. Then you don't want one of them coming bursting into the house yelling that "stuarts just **** in the tatties"!

Makes for a good story at family parties later in life though.

Yeah, most probably but my main priority is that they're good, hard working respectful people, whether they swear or not isn't a worry I have for them!

Beso
14-05-2010, 03:00 PM
I agree with your priorities, everyone swears, from the pm to the street sweeper..

Crimson Dynamo
14-05-2010, 03:04 PM
I agree with your priorities, everyone swears, from the pm to the street sweeper..

LT does not swear and neither does mrs LT

Mr LT senior and Mrs LT senior do NOT swear

there is NO swearing at LT's church

most of LT's friends do not swear, apart from "the boys"

Crimson Dynamo
14-05-2010, 03:05 PM
but ask yourselves this

would you call your Mum a *******?


if not why not?

Beso
14-05-2010, 03:07 PM
Course I wouldn't call my mum a *******, she'd cut my ******* off.

Niamh.
14-05-2010, 03:09 PM
but ask yourselves this

would you call your Mum a *******?


if not why not?

I don't call anyone anything, I said I swore, I didn't say I swore at people. So, no I would call my mother a ***** but I wouldn't call anyone else one either

Claymores
14-05-2010, 03:15 PM
but ask yourselves this

would you call your Mum a *******?


if not why not?

But ask yourselves this:-

Would Claymores and Shasown (a bit cheeky both ) regard LT as a TWOT after stupid lies of white military jumbos over deep deep in the highlands or think whatever this person says is a pile?

Crimson Dynamo
14-05-2010, 03:23 PM
But ask yourselves this:-

Would Claymores and Shasown (a bit cheeky both ) regard LT as a TWOT after stupid lies of white military jumbos over deep deep in the highlands or think whatever this person says is a pile?

that plane u turn was the precursor to all the volcanic disruption

LT was first with the news

Beso
14-05-2010, 03:25 PM
Rubbish, it was jeremy clarkson and the top gear team.

Claymores
14-05-2010, 03:32 PM
ah, a fifer..anywhere near bridge of allen?, I'm not sure of scotland north of edinburgh.

Nope Bezo - think striaght North across the water from Edinburgh - I can see EDI from window back south across the Forth!

Beso
14-05-2010, 03:34 PM
got you, i had a school trip years ago to some really really old cobbled tiny village just over the water from edinburgh, I've forgot it's name..really old though.

Stacey.
14-05-2010, 03:36 PM
i dunno, was only thinking about this the other day.

Claymores
14-05-2010, 03:39 PM
that plane u turn was the precursor to all the volcanic disruption

LT was first with the news

LT is the fountain of all knowlege:xyxwave: Kerry never goes to Iceland without getting some snow.

Claymores
14-05-2010, 03:44 PM
SEE, I have never even heard of the ochiles..I'm a border lad.

Tory effer probably! :elephant: Go join the English/Lib Dems pretend Scot

Beso
14-05-2010, 03:57 PM
HAHAHAHA, do you you know where scotts monument is?, ******* politics.

Jack_
14-05-2010, 04:15 PM
The way I see it is that they are just words. Nothing more, nothing less. Words with particular meanings. Where did these meanings originate, though? They must have come from someone. Someone that gave these words, meanings. Meanings which are deemed 'inappropriate' or 'offensive'. But why is that? Why do we allow someone to tell us that some words are offensive, and others are not?

Bare in mind that in this politically correct society, many words and phrases are now being deemed 'inappropriate' or 'offensive'. Words such as 'brainstorm' are now apparently 'offensive' because they discriminate against people with mental health problems. Under this principle, I could deem the word 'clock' to be offensive, as if you remove the 'l', it says 'cock'. I could deem that to be offensive and discriminatory as it almost names the male genitallia and not the female genitallia. I could then tell other people, and they could spread the word, and then, surely, it would socially be deemed unacceptable to say it, right?

The point I'm trying to make is that these words have meanings that have derived from some twat that none of us will ever know.

As for the point regarding people who swear a lot, yes, that's true. But people also say the words 'and', 'like' and 'said' a lot. So your point is?

I swear because I want to. Because all I see it as is a word, made up of a few letters.

I don't particularly wish to follow some politically correct rulebook.

At the end of the day, it's a word. That is it. F-U-C-K. Oh look, I spelt ****. Shoot me.

Beso
14-05-2010, 04:28 PM
join the queue folks.

Claymores
14-05-2010, 04:30 PM
HAHAHAHA, do you you know where scotts monument is?, ******* politics.

I lived for 6 years in Gala - the MP is depute Lib Dem but was in my Politics II class at Edinburgh universiry and is someone I have no respect for as know a daft clown. I know most of the ministers currently - what U saying?

Crimson Dynamo
14-05-2010, 04:42 PM
The way I see it is that they are just words. Nothing more, nothing less. Words with particular meanings. Where did these meanings originate, though? They must have come from someone. Someone that gave these words, meanings. Meanings which are deemed 'inappropriate' or 'offensive'. But why is that? Why do we allow someone to tell us that some words are offensive, and others are not?

Bare in mind that in this politically correct society, many words and phrases are now being deemed 'inappropriate' or 'offensive'. Words such as 'brainstorm' are now apparently 'offensive' because they discriminate against people with mental health problems. Under this principle, I could deem the word 'clock' to be offensive, as if you remove the 'l', it says 'cock'. I could deem that to be offensive and discriminatory as it almost names the male genitallia and not the female genitallia. I could then tell other people, and they could spread the word, and then, surely, it would socially be deemed unacceptable to say it, right?

The point I'm trying to make is that these words have meanings that have derived from some twat that none of us will ever know.

As for the point regarding people who swear a lot, yes, that's true. But people also say the words 'and', 'like' and 'said' a lot. So your point is?

I swear because I want to. Because all I see it as is a word, made up of a few letters.

I don't particularly wish to follow some politically correct rulebook.

At the end of the day, it's a word. That is it. F-U-C-K. Oh look, I spelt ****. Shoot me.


yes but do you use these "words" to your parents, work colleagues etc

they may be just words to you but you are governed by relationships as to how you use them.

the n word is now as bad a word as blasphemy was in the 1900's

plus ca change

Beso
14-05-2010, 04:44 PM
I lived for 6 years in Gala - the MP is depute Lib Dem but was in my Politics II class at Edinburgh universiry and is someone I have no respect for as know a daft clown. I know most of the ministers currently - what U saying?


ah right, well you'll be apt in the art of ****eing in a pale.


Not saying nothing, just that I could make a quiz about scotland for you and there would be some questions you would get wrong..without googling..

shouldn't you be educating me to what these things are? I'm assuming hills.:blush:

Patrick
14-05-2010, 04:46 PM
Not sure, its abit silly.
I think we should all be able to swear if we wanted to this includes infront of parents, teachers and that.

All I know is the word ****, came about in the time of the Black Death.
If you wanted to have sex, you had to go to the queen and ask for a sign that said '****' so you could put it on your door, then people would know not to go in.

LOL I cant belive it turned into a bad word.

Twilight
14-05-2010, 04:50 PM
My mum and dad hate swearing, but they don't mind me doing it, but they would kill me if i said ****, i still say it when they aren't there though:P I don't think the parents have that much influence on swearing tbh.

Beso
14-05-2010, 04:51 PM
Not sure, its abit silly.
I think we should all be able to swear if we wanted to this includes infront of parents, teachers and that.

All I know is the word ****, came about in the time of the Black Death.
If you wanted to have sex, you had to go to the queen and ask for a sign that said '****' so you could put it on your door, then people would know not to go in.

LOL I cant belive it turned into a bad word.



That is the funniest thing I have read in a long long time.:joker:

Crimson Dynamo
14-05-2010, 04:51 PM
My mum and dad hate swearing, but they don't mind me doing it, but they would kill me if i said ****, i still say it when they aren't there though:P I don't think the parents have that much influence on swearing tbh.

they do

they lead by example

when you are their age you will swear as much or as little as they do

like it or not

Patrick
14-05-2010, 04:54 PM
That is the funniest thing I have read in a long long time.:joker:

Funny as in you dont belive it?
Or funny as in, its just funny?
I don't think the parents have that much influence on swearing tbh.

They do.

I never would of swore as much as I do if my mum didnt do it around me alot.
I think if I ever do accidently swear around her I'll blame it on here, yeah.

eye sea
14-05-2010, 05:10 PM
im 18:laugh:


It would have been funnier if you'd said you are 48.:joker:

Beso
14-05-2010, 05:10 PM
Funny as in you dont belive it?
Or funny as in, its just funny?


They do.

I never would of swore as much as I do if my mum didnt do it around me alot.
I think if I ever do accidently swear around her I'll blame it on here, yeah.


I hope it's true, I just have a vision of all these sweaty couples visiting the queen.

Claymores
14-05-2010, 05:33 PM
ah right, well you'll be apt in the art of ****eing in a pale.


Not saying nothing, just that I could make a quiz about scotland for you and there would be some questions you would get wrong..without googling..

shouldn't you be educating me to what these things are? I'm assuming hills.:blush:

Wm - I did politics II with yer bloke but left it to do Social Policy - if yer calling me a twonk I could do politics III and get it wrong with a Lib Dem who loves torieness - god bless the Lib Dems eh?

Beso
14-05-2010, 05:50 PM
Wm - I did politics II with yer bloke but left it to do Social Policy - if yer calling me a twonk I could do politics III and get it wrong with a Lib Dem who loves torieness - god bless the Lib Dems eh?


Did you see my **** politics statement:xyxwave:

Shasown
14-05-2010, 06:03 PM
LT does not swear and neither does mrs LT

Mr LT senior and Mrs LT senior do NOT swear

there is NO swearing at LT's church

most of LT's friends do not swear, apart from "the boys"

LT is a liar and a hypocrite. Or is he an oik or trying to look cool.

swearing is for oiks

young people trying to appear "cool"

and twats

Whilst the highlighted word above may mean "foolish person" up in the area where he lives, throughout the rest of the UK it is interchangeable with the word See you next thursday. Its primary definitions in the Oxford English Dictionary are 1. Female Genitalia 2. A woman or girl considered as a sexual object.


Waffle that one away LT!!!!!!!

Angus
14-05-2010, 06:23 PM
The way I see it is that they are just words. Nothing more, nothing less. Words with particular meanings. Where did these meanings originate, though? They must have come from someone. Someone that gave these words, meanings. Meanings which are deemed 'inappropriate' or 'offensive'. But why is that? Why do we allow someone to tell us that some words are offensive, and others are not?

Bare in mind that in this politically correct society, many words and phrases are now being deemed 'inappropriate' or 'offensive'. Words such as 'brainstorm' are now apparently 'offensive' because they discriminate against people with mental health problems. Under this principle, I could deem the word 'clock' to be offensive, as if you remove the 'l', it says 'cock'. I could deem that to be offensive and discriminatory as it almost names the male genitallia and not the female genitallia. I could then tell other people, and they could spread the word, and then, surely, it would socially be deemed unacceptable to say it, right?

The point I'm trying to make is that these words have meanings that have derived from some twat that none of us will ever know.

As for the point regarding people who swear a lot, yes, that's true. But people also say the words 'and', 'like' and 'said' a lot. So your point is?

I swear because I want to. Because all I see it as is a word, made up of a few letters.

I don't particularly wish to follow some politically correct rulebook.

At the end of the day, it's a word. That is it. F-U-C-K. Oh look, I spelt ****. Shoot me.


I agree. Swear words are just words to express specific human emotions and experiences, such as anger, frustration, irritation, despair just as other words express grief, happiness, love etc. It is social conditioning that has deemed certain words taboo or offensive. For example, most women would find the word "bint" offensive if it were directed towards them, since it means a slut or a slag, yet it wouldn't raise an eyebrow in the middle east since it's just the Arabic word for "woman".

WOMBAI
14-05-2010, 06:37 PM
what makes you think im not an adult?
because i swear?
man im pretty sure more adults swear then dont..

Not all the time though - as you admit you do! Nothing worse than hearing someone say ***** this and ***** that etc practically every other word - they really don't do themselves any favours! People often assume (usually correctly) that they are just idiots!