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[Enid]

http://www.digitalperversion.net/gardenofshadows/index.php?topic=4.0

--Member Conduct
Use common courtesy when interacting with other forum members. Harassment, impersonation of someone else, or flame wars will not be tolerated. This site is for mature members and is not censored, however use common sense when posting. Though artistic nudity is allowed, pornographic material is not allowed and will result in administrative action. Basically, don't be a jackass and we won't have any problems.

-- Respect other members: Things like "lurk moar" or dog-piling on new members for every infraction nonsense will not be tolerated. While linking to the appropriate rules post is acceptable, there is no need for ten of you to chime in with "Oooooh you're in trouble~!" or variations thereof after that. Please do not behave like four to six year olds; it hurts.

--Refrain from mini-modding: With number one in mind, we would also like you to refrain from "mini-modding." The rules need to be enforced, yes, but that's why we have moderators in the first place. If you ever find a post that you think is out of line, report it by PMing one of the mods and we'll get to it as soon as we are able.

--Don't be an ass There is a difference between being "snarky" and being a damned ass. Keep in mind that a) not everyone will respond favorably to your oh-so-witty retorts, and b) said retorts are not always appropriate. This is not a carebear forum, but you are expected to at least observe standards of decency (i.e., politeness) when interacting with other members. We're not asking you to walk on eggshells, but napalming one another at random isn't conducive to a healthy community either.

--Cliquish Behavior: Please note that - regardless of post count, perceived or existing contribution, or favor - all members are equal. While it is natural to form bonds with other members of the board, the last thing we want is for cliques to develop. The warning signs are already present; and to be perfectly honest, nothing kills a forum faster than petty infighting and factions formed around some ridiculous notion of entitlement. Garden of Shadows is no more "your" board because you have been a member longer than, say, someone who joined yesterday. The condescension and related asshattery ends as of now.

--Spam: This is covered in the forum rules, so you should have a good idea not to do it. But a little more about what spam is. Padding your post count by adding thank-yous to all the downloads in a forum is spam. Replying to a topic without adding anything of value (such as saying "I agree!" and nothing else) is spam. Posting very short replies to several topics in a short time frame is spam. You should be thinking about your posts before you make them. Please note that spamming is unacceptable in all forums except "Oh the Drama".

-- Attention Seeking: There is no real rule for this, but please note that excessive attention seeking really does not go over very well at GoS. Refrain from making posts just to get attention or highlight how cool you are, as it will cause more negative attention than positive. If you want to make a positive impression, you are more likely to do so by posting thoughtful, coherent posts and following the rules of the forum.

[Vicky.]

Agree with all of them.

[Twilight]

I agree with some of it.

[Enid]

I agree with some of it.
What don't you agree with?

[Ruth*Star]

I agree with all of those rules;

Sorta Off Topic here but I <3 Garden of Shadows, I get all my custom hairs and neon objects for the Sims 2 off there. I've got an account there too.

[Jessica.]

All pretty fair tbh.

[Twilight]

I actually agree with it all after re-reading it again LOL:P

[InOne]

Should also lock threads that go on about "The Good Old Days" and the "Great" members who have now left. Probably puts people off.

[Enid]

Bumping till this gets some recognition.

We also need some new mods. Sorry, but the ones we have are not nearly active enough and are completely biased. Seriously sick of the state of this place at the moment.

[MrGaryy]

I think admin should stop electing mods that are total non entities. Firstly, they're usually huge push overs, therefore not the best at disciplining. Secondly, they're often not as active as a member who is a well known member with lots of friends. Just because a member is part of a particular group doesn't mean they aren't sensible enough to know the difference between their friends acting like idiots and having a laugh. Chances are if a member has loads of friends on here, they're gonna be on here more often, and be drawn to more threads than someone who floats.

[Novo]

Ben is the best mod the world has ever seen

[WOMBAI]

http://www.digitalperversion.net/gardenofshadows/index.php?topic=4.0

:thumbs:

[Enid]

To be honest, I don't think any of our mods are particularly great. As much as I like Vicky, I don't think she is suited to the role of a mod. Neither is Ben, because of the whole BH thing. We just need some new/additional mods to clean the place up really, as well as some new rules that they can actually ENFORCE.

[James]

Hardly anyone ever reports threads.

[Enid]

Hardly anyone ever reports threads.
I think that's got something to do with lack of mod activity and efficiency. I reported that cupid_stunt a few minutes ago actually. He's just been insulting pretty much everyone. I've yet to see anything happen.

[MrGaryy]

off the top of my head, I think Darenn is a good mod when he's online, and also Greg is good. Laura, as much I get on so well with her, I think is perhaps a bit too nice for the role and maybe a bit too sensitive? Ben is also a really nice guy but he's so easily swayed by others imo that he's not a good mod. Vicky, I agree she's not suited to a mod position. Rory is rarely online, nor is Marc or ukturtle or SiaSiaSia.

[Stacey.]

Is Ben going to be made admin?

[Jessica.]

Nathan for mod!

[Twilight]

Darenn is a good mod so is Vicky and Greg imo, Ben and Laura are well not so good.

[Tom4784]

I think Ben and Vicky are quite good actually, I wasn't convinced at first by Ben but I think he's a decent mod. Darenn and Greg's good. There's not really many awful mods we just need a few more regular ones.

[Enid]

off the top of my head, I think Darenn is a good mod when he's online, and also Greg is good. Laura, as much I get on so well with her, I think is perhaps a bit too nice for the role and maybe a bit too sensitive? Ben is also a really nice guy but he's so easily swayed by others imo that he's not a good mod. Vicky, I agree she's not suited to a mod position. Rory is rarely online, nor is Marc or ukturtle or SiaSiaSia.
Sh!t yeah I forgot about Darenn and Zee. They are good, however I don't think they are active enough as they should be. Laura is too nice, I agree. Ben is biased towards the BH. They could get away with murder. The last four should be stripped of their mod status and given to somebody who can actually.. you know... moderate the forums.

[Enid]

I think Ben and Vicky are quite good actually, I wasn't convinced at first by Ben but I think he's a decent mod. Darenn and Greg's good. There's not really many awful mods we just need a few more regular ones.
I didn't say anyone was awful. I do think there could be *better* mods though.

[Jessica.]

Ben said he is becoming an admin or he's buying TiBB or something idk. I really hope not!

[MrGaryy]

Sh!t yeah I forgot about Darenn and Zee. They are good, however I don't think they are active enough as they should be. Laura is too nice, I agree. Ben is biased towards the BH. They could get away with murder. The last four should be stripped of their mod status and given to somebody who can actually.. you know... moderate the forums.

certainly Sia, Marc and ukturtle are useless mods, but tbf Rory goes through phases of being online for periods of time and when he is, he's a good mod. But I really can't stress how badly we need new mods.

[GypsyGoth]

I thnk Nate would make a good mod.

[WOMBAI]

some of the mods are good. others are totally biased though.

I do agree that one or two are very biased - allowing their likes/dislikes of people to affect their judgement!

[Enid]

I thnk Nate would make a good mod.
Nah.

Anybody in the BH should not be a mod. Cliques totally destroy the dynamics of a forum.

[Enid]

See, another reason why we need more mods. None were on to moderate that ridiculous single mums thread. An admin had to come online to ban the member and delete all the corresponding posts.

[Zippy]

I think it's difficult to be a mod and be completely unbiased tbf. Theyre only human. Obviously theyll be more sympathetic to those they like.

Personally, I don't need to see more discipline. If you don't like a thread or what some member is posting then..jog on. Nobodies forced to read or tolerate anything. It's just a forum ffs.

People like cupid stunt exist in real life. I don't understand why people want to live in some sanitised bubble on the internet.

[Tom4784]

I didn't say anyone was awful. I do think there could be *better* mods though.

I wasn't saying that, It's just my own input. Not a reply to anyone else.

[WOMBAI]

I think admin should stop electing mods that are total non entities. Firstly, they're usually huge push overs, therefore not the best at disciplining. Secondly, they're often not as active as a member who is a well known member with lots of friends. Just because a member is part of a particular group doesn't mean they aren't sensible enough to know the difference between their friends acting like idiots and having a laugh. Chances are if a member has loads of friends on here, they're gonna be on here more often, and be drawn to more threads than someone who floats.

Disagree with that - electing members with lots of friends is part of the problem sometimes - they can't remain neutral enough - and are more likely to take the 'side' of their friends in an argument - even if they don't realize they are doing it. I have seen it happen many times!

[James]

I was on the forum there but I didn't look at that thread until I saw the reported post. I think we will maybe get a new mod or two before Big Brother, but we haven't discussed it much.

[Novo]

Lock this silly thread James

http://i2.tinypic.com/52ayfpv.jpg

[MrGaryy]

Disagree with that - electing members with lots of friends is part of the problem sometimes - they can't remain neutral enough - and are more likely to take the 'side' of their friends in an argument - even if they don't realize they are doing it. I have seen it happen many times!

But look at the alternative we have now - members who are either total pushovers or never online. Having friends keeps members active and involved in the forum and as I already said, just because a person is friendly with a particular group doesnt mean they're blinded by friendship and cant see if they're mates are in the wrong. Obviously there are some cases, like the younger members that would, but there are a lot of mature members, in groups of friends that would make good mods. Just not BH members because when your part of such a publicly defined clique, its hard to go against your mates.

[Enid]

I think it's difficult to be a mod and be completely unbiased tbf. Theyre only human. Obviously theyll be more sympathetic to those they like.

Personally, I don't need to see more discipline. If you don't like a thread or what some member is posting then..jog on. Nobodies forced to read or tolerate anything. It's just a forum ffs.

People like cupid stunt exist in real life. I don't understand why people want to live in some sanitised bubble on the internet.
That's the thing though. There is absolutely NO discipline for some of us. Stacey gets banned for a fairly tame comment, while if it was someone else that had made that comment, they would get away with it. A mod can't pick and choose who and when they moderate. If they can't do the job, give it to someone who is better suited.

[WOMBAI]

That's the thing though. There is absolutely NO discipline for some of us. Stacey gets banned for a fairly tame comment, while if it was someone else that had made that comment, they would get away with it. A mod can't pick and choose who and when they moderate. If they can't do the job, give it to someone who is better suited.

This!

[Beastie]

Kaz is the best mod!! but the others still do a pretty good job.

[Enid]

Kaz is the best mod!! but the others still do a pretty good job.
Isn't Kaz an admin?

Either way, she's barely ever online, but when she is, she's good.

[Tom4784]

Isn't Kaz an admin?

Either way, she's barely ever online, but when she is, she's good.

She's invisible I think, She's on quite often If I recall.

[Enid]

She's invisible I think, She's on quite often If I recall.
Ah fair enough. Isn't it better if mods remained visible?

[Tom4784]

Ah fair enough. Isn't it better if mods remained visible?

I dunno, I suppose they get reports and see the forum just fine either way.

[Zippy]

Considering what their job entails I don't think any mod should be invisible. What next, invisible police officers?

[Jessica.]

Ah fair enough. Isn't it better if mods remained visible?

I made a thread about it and got slaughtered :joker:

[MeMyselfAndI]

That's the thing though. There is absolutely NO discipline for some of us. Stacey gets banned for a fairly tame comment, while if it was someone else that had made that comment, they would get away with it. A mod can't pick and choose who and when they moderate. If they can't do the job, give it to someone who is better suited.

THIS!! some people tell me to die fromthe BH. they get off fine
Stacey did practically nothing

[BB_Eye]

Should also lock threads that go on about "The Good Old Days" and the "Great" members who have now left. Probably puts people off.

Thankfully I've only come across one or two of these. I agree they're nauseating.

[GypsyGoth]

I made a thread about it and got slaughtered :joker:

:laugh:

[InOne]

Thankfully I've only come across one or two of these. I agree they're nauseating.

One or two is enough for me!!! But at one point they were popping up quite alot.

[Jessica.]

:laugh:

:bawling:

[Enid]

Thankfully I've only come across one or two of these. I agree they're nauseating.
I don't like it either.

[Zippy]

See, another reason why we need more mods. None were on to moderate that ridiculous single mums thread. An admin had to come online to ban the member and delete all the corresponding posts.

That thread made my sunday. I don't see anything wrong with stuff like that, moronic as it was.

It's all showbiz, darling.

[WOMBAI]

Should also lock threads that go on about "The Good Old Days" and the "Great" members who have now left. Probably puts people off.

After all - who are they to say who are and who are not great members - it implies that they think they are superior members whose opinions are the ones that matter! Can be quite annoying! Pompous nonsense!

[GypsyGoth]

:bawling:

:hug:

[Jessica.]

:hug:

:hugesmile:

[Beastie]

After all - who are they to say who are and who are not great members - it implies that they think they are superior members whose opinions are the ones that matter! Can be quite annoying! Pompous nonsense!

This.

Although it is the "forum politics". In other words.. a load of trollop!!!

[Enid]

After all - who are they to say who are and who are not great members - it implies that they think they are superior members whose opinions are the ones that matter! Can be quite annoying! Pompous nonsense!
It's just the arse-licking that gets on my nerves.

[Zippy]

It's just the arse-licking that gets on my nerves.

You wouldn't like Gay porn then. :nono:

[Enid]

You wouldn't like Gay porn then. :nono:
Girls don't have arseholes?

[MrGaryy]

After all - who are they to say who are and who are not great members - it implies that they think they are superior members whose opinions are the ones that matter! Can be quite annoying! Pompous nonsense!

That's a ridiculous way of looking at it. They're not claiming to miss old 'great' members because they feel they're superior or better to judge - some members have simply been around longer and therefore know more members than newer members.

[WOMBAI]

That's a ridiculous way of looking at it. They're not claiming to miss old 'great' members because they feel they're superior or better to judge - some members have simply been around longer and therefore know more members than newer members.

No - because it's not just that they say they miss old members - some put down new members - with a clear implication that they don't think, that on the whole, new members are of the same 'quality' as old ones!

[MrGaryy]

No - because it's not just that they say they miss old members - some put down new members - with a clear implication that they don't think, that on the whole, new members are of the same 'quality' as old ones!


No - they don't think they are of the same standard as some of the older members, and some of the newer members - which lets be ****ing honest, some are not.

[WOMBAI]

No - they don't think they are of the same standard as some of the older members, and some of the newer members - which lets be ****ing honest, some are not.

Who is to judge standards! I dare say some are not too impressed with the standard of the members passing such comments on the new ones! What they really mean is that they miss their friends (and possibley allies) rather than those members actually being 'better' members! Just perspective!

[MrGaryy]

Who is to judge standards! I dare say some are not too impressed with the standard of the members passing such comments on the new ones! What they really mean is that they miss their friends (and possibley allies) rather than those members actually being 'better' members! Just perspective!

Listen I'm not a modest person, so I'm gonna be blatant - I personally think I, as a pretty mature, reasonable, intelligent member and person, am fully qualified to judge the absolute abominations that are Stacey and MeMyselfAndI.

[Tom4784]

Who is to judge standards! I dare say some are not too impressed with the standard of the members passing such comments on the new ones! What they really mean is that they miss their friends (and possibley allies) rather than those members actually being 'better' members! Just perspective!

Rofl Allies...

This isn't the 1940s.

[WOMBAI]

Rofl Allies...

This isn't the 1940s.

No - but you can generally predict who is going to back who on this site - regardless of topic! People use the word 'cliques' for good reason - they very much exist on this forum!

[Tom4784]

No - but you can generally predict who is going to back who on this site - regardless of topic! People use the word 'cliques' for good reason - they very much exist on this forum!

There's a difference between cliques and sharing similar opinions though. You can't brand people just because they don't agree with you.

[Zippy]

Cliques are for the weak. People who can't stand alone.

[WOMBAI]

There's a difference between cliques and sharing similar opinions though. You can't brand people just because they don't agree with you.

I don't believe I do - I don't object to people disagreeing - it's the way they do it that counts! There are people who get away with a lot - whilst others get away with far less - it isn't right! There has to be consistency!

[Shasown]

Girls don't have arseholes?

Of course they do sometimes they are called boyfriends sometimes husbands, :wink:

[Enid]

Cliques are for the weak. People who can't stand alone.
Agreed.

I'm so glad I haven't been suckered into all that baloney.

[MrGaryy]

Cliques are for the weak. People who can't stand alone.

and standing alone is for people who can't get into a clique. -files nailz-

[Scarlett.]

One thing worse than people who worship old members, is when the old member comes back for five minutes and ungodly amount of wankery happens

[WOMBAI]

Listen I'm not a modest person, so I'm gonna be blatant - I personally think I, as a pretty mature, reasonable, intelligent member and person, am fully qualified to judge the absolute abominations that are Stacey and MeMyselfAndI.

But on a site that caters for all ages - it is a bit unfair! It is unlikely that 14 year-olds are going to speak the same language as 30 somethings! All members will have opinions of other members - but for some to keep spouting that some are better than others in threads is just annoying and pointless!

[MrGaryy]

But on a site that caters for all ages - it is a bit unfair! It is unlikely that 14 year-olds are going to speak the same language as 30 somethings! All members will have opinions of other members - but for some to keep spouting that some are better than others in threads is just annoying and pointless!

Unlikely, but not unheard of. Look at Jonathon, Lewis, CaraRawr, Twilight. They can all maintain a good debate and speak maturely and are all 14.

[Enid]

Okay, we've gone slightly off-topic now.

At least we've all agreed that we do need more/better mods. Will the admins listen to us? Tune in next time children.

[WOMBAI]

and standing alone is for people who can't get into a clique. -files nailz-

Oh come on - that is playground stuff - silly popularity contest nonsense!

[Enid]

Btw, I'm going to continue bumping this thread until our needs are met... or I'm banned.

[Zippy]

and standing alone is for people who can't get into a clique. -files nailz-

Anybody can join a forum clique. Just follow the same members around agreeing with them and backing them all the time. Piss easy.

The members I admire here are very much independent thinkers. I won't do a list but...Enid certainly qualifies as an example.

[Shaun]

The question is who? In case you hadn't noticed there isn't exactly an abundance of rational, mature and active members.

[Enid]

Anybody can join a forum clique. Just follow the same members around agreeing with them and backing them all the time. Piss easy.

The members I admire here are very much independent thinkers. I won't do a list but...Enid certainly qualifies as an example.
Thanks sweetie. Likewise!

[Enid]

The question is who? In case you hadn't noticed there isn't exactly an abundance of rational, mature and active memebers.
Catch 22.

[Tom4784]

I don't believe I do - I don't object to people disagreeing - it's the way they do it that counts! There are people who get away with a lot - whilst others get away with far less - it isn't right! There has to be consistency!

The thing is though you only complain about 'groups' when it doesn't suit you, I didn't hear a peep about this in the Cupid Stunt thread or that bullying thread a few weeks back where you an others 'teamed' up on me. Before you talk about consistency you best look closer to home first.

The truth is it's a forum you can't team up on others you can only have an opinion and if that coincides with someone else's then that's just it. You've inadvertedly proved this in other threads.

[Firewire]

Wow, this thread has really went off-topic.

But anyway, I agree somewhat with opinions in here and some mods are better than others.

[Shaun]

WOMBAI, Stu and cupid_stunt for mods ty.

[Shasown]

All the mods get my utmost respect for having to deal with some of the twattishness displayed by lots and lots of members(including myself King Twat)

[GypsyGoth]

I think Wombai would be a good mod.

Edit: The post I put after this was in the wrong thread, so I deleted it.

[WOMBAI]

The thing is though you only complain about groups when it doesn't suit you, I didn't hear a peep about this in the Cupid Stunt thread or that bullying thread a few weeks back where you an others 'teamed' up on me. Before you talk about consistency you best look closer to home first.

The truth is it's a forum you can't team up on others you can only have an opinion and if that coincides with someone else's then that's just it. You've inadvertedly proved this in other threads.

But what you are saying is not the same as people who CONSISTENTLY back up the same members - in different threads, on different topics! And that has nothing to do with sharing opinions - it is to do with backing up 'friends'!

What thread are you talking about where I 'teamed' up with others against you - I don't remember! As for the Cupid Stunt thread - he clearly was in the wrong - he usually is - don't think anyone would disagree with that! He was insulting everyone! And if you want to talk about closer to home - you are hardly in a position to criticize!

[Stu]

Should I say it?

Should I?

Really?

Again?

Okay.

MAKE THIS FORUM 16+. IF A MEMBER WHO IS UNDER 16 BUT MANAGES TO PASS FOR OVER 16, LEAVE THEM BE. BUT BAN ALL THE KIDDIES.

Right. Problem solved. Or at least most of them.

[WOMBAI]

I think Wombai would be a good mod.

Edit: The post I put after this was in the wrong thread, so I deleted it.

I think there are several that would throw their hands up in horror at that suggestion! :joker: It isn't for me though! :hugesmile:

[Smithy]

This has gone rather of topic with all the mini arguments within the thread.

But I do agree with most of it, scrap the useless Mods and bring in new ones.

[Stu]

BTW, I actually think WOMBAI would be a good mod. I wouldn't tolerate myself as a mod either, but I feel forced into a position of misantrophy with all the tosspots that currently dominate the forums.

[WOMBAI]

WOMBAI, Stu and cupid_stunt for mods ty.

Do you want a 3rd World War! :joker:

[GypsyGoth]

Enid would be a good mod too but maybe a bit strict.

[Zippy]

Mods should just stand around looking pretty and quit interfering.

Like what Ben does.

[MrGaryy]

tbh, I'd be a great mod xo.

[Braden]

There are so many members on this forum, that are active and mod-material yet most mods on here are not active and don't really join in with discussion on the forum. I really want new mods on here.

[Firewire]

tbh, I'd be a great mod xo.

Dream on dear, joke lol.

You'd just ban every fail on here lol, which isn't a bad thing.

I think I'd too make a good mod, I'd like to clean up this site a lot. I will make people obey me. hehehe

[Enid]

Should I say it?

Should I?

Really?

Again?

Okay.

MAKE THIS FORUM 16+. IF A MEMBER WHO IS UNDER 16 BUT MANAGES TO PASS FOR OVER 16, LEAVE THEM BE. BUT BAN ALL THE KIDDIES.

Right. Problem solved. Or at least most of them.
As much as I'd like that, it's not gonna happen. Too many members would complain (but I say **** 'em).

Anyway, the initial point of this thread was to remind the mods that we do actually have rules and most members tend to get away with breaking every single one of them unless someone causes a fuss. I was spending a lot of time on another forum for a while and couldn't help but compare their standards to ours. They give warnings out to anybody who so much as even double-posts, but all members are respectful and polite and the whole place just has a kinder atmosphere.

[MrGaryy]

Dream on dear, joke lol.

You'd just ban every fail on here lol, which isn't a bad thing.

I think I'd too make a good mod, I'd like to clean up this site a lot. I will make people obey me. hehehe

I do actually think I could be a good mod. I wouldnt let away the murder that is gotten away with by certain members on here and I would be able to be fair to everyone, my friends incl.

vote 4 me x.

[Zippy]

They give warnings out to anybody who so much as even double-posts, but all members are respectful and polite and the whole place just has a kinder atmosphere.

Ew. Sounds like hell.

[Firewire]

I do actually think I could be a good mod. I wouldnt let away the murder that is gotten away with by certain members on here and I would be able to be fair to everyone, my friends incl.

vote 4 me x.

I will vote for you.

[Braden]

I would like to think I would be a good mod, but I know that's never going to happen :p

[Harry!]

I am 15 and I am mature enough to be a good member on this forum.

[Smithy]

I think if we do get new Mods they should be chosen by Admin, no voting

[WOMBAI]

As much as I'd like that, it's not gonna happen. Too many members would complain (but I say **** 'em).

Anyway, the initial point of this thread was to remind the mods that we do actually have rules and most members tend to get away with breaking every single one of them unless someone causes a fuss. I was spending a lot of time on another forum for a while and couldn't help but compare their standards to ours. They give warnings out to anybody who so much as even double-posts, but all members are respectful and polite and the whole place just has a kinder atmosphere.

Sounds appealing!

[Enid]

Ew. Sounds like hell.
Well, yeah. They are a bit *too* strict, I have to say, but it does help having rules and mods to enforce them.

I'd also like to point out, that that forum does not have a swear-filter and all members have to be at least 13, so it's not even as if age or censorship matters.

[WOMBAI]

Ew. Sounds like hell.

:joker: Zippy likes dramas!

[InOne]

I don't really know anyone else that would make a good mod at the moment.

[Zippy]

:joker: Zippy likes dramas!

So do you! Im just more honest about it.

Enid likes a bit too. :joker:

[Firewire]

What would I do?

- I'd make the discipline at a more disciplinery standard.
- Close unacceptable threads before an argument breaks out.
- Ban members who are constantly disobeying the rules.
- I'd be fair to the nice members.
- Fix people's spelling and grammar; how much fun that'll be.
- Stop the bullying and people ganging up on each other, also the cliques.

[Tom4784]

But what you are saying is not the same as people who CONSISTENTLY back up the same members - in different threads, on different topics! And that has nothing to do with sharing opinions - it is to do with backing up 'friends'!

What thread are you talking about where I 'teamed' up with others against you - I don't remember! As for the Cupid Stunt thread - he clearly was in the wrong - he usually is - don't think anyone would disagree with that! He was insulting everyone! And if you want to talk about closer to home - you are hardly in a position to criticize!

So people aren't allowed to have similar opinions? I tend to agree with certain people often because I agree with their views not because I'm backing them up. I've often argued and disagreed with many people, also I've agreed with what you have had to say at times Surely if I was apart of some group I'd take potshots at you every chance I get? Like I said before HUGE difference between cliques and shared opinions.

As for that bold bit can you remember a certain alcoholic and Anorexia thread? You were in the wrong there but that didn't stop you saying that everyone was against you and things like that.

The 'group' defence is nothing more then a deflection used by people who are in the ropes in an argument.

[Enid]

Enid would be a good mod too but maybe a bit strict.
Hey, I can tell you, if I was made mod, I'd be ****ing brilliant at it, and love every second.

[Stacey.]

They give warnings out to anybody who so much as even double-posts, but all members are respectful and polite and the whole place just has a kinder atmosphere.

:shocked:

that's way too strict.
would hate it if it was like that here.
boring!

[Zippy]

Hey, I can tell you, if I was made mod, I'd be ****ing brilliant at it, and love every second.

Ahem. (http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2009/01/16/article-1120002-0042E63200000258-281_470x368.jpg)

:joker:

[Enid]

:shocked:

that's way too strict.
would hate it if it was like that here.
boring!
Their warnings/bans are slightly different to ours anyway. Over there if you accumulate three warnings in a short period of time you get a one or two week ban. Then all your warnings are stripped, however if you break the rules again, you are perma-banned.

Sounds fair to me.

[GypsyGoth]

Hey, I can tell you, if I was made mod, I'd be ****ing brilliant at it, and love every second.

:laugh:

I'd vote for you :thumbs:

[Shaun]

Yeah I'm not being banned for a week for 3 double-posts.

[Smithy]

You'd vote for everyone Claudia :joker:

[Firewire]

Their warnings/bans are slightly different to ours anyway. Over there if you accumulate three warnings in a short period of time you get a one or two week ban. Then all your warnings are stripped, however if you break the rules again, you are perma-banned.

Sounds fair to me.

That's fair. I hate the infractions thing here, fortunately I have none. People do not learn their lesson with the banning system on here.

[Vicky.]

Their warnings/bans are slightly different to ours anyway. Over there if you accumulate three warnings in a short period of time you get a one or two week ban. Then all your warnings are stripped, however if you break the rules again, you are perma-banned.

Sounds fair to me.

Sounds like a better system tbh.

The way this works, you have to get like 999 points for a permaban :/

Which is pretty unlikely.

And the comment that stacey got banned for, that you were all talking about before...just so you know, it wasnt me that banned her for it. Biased as I am ( :rolleyes: ), I let that slide, I didnt see it as a rule break anyways, just a slightly catty comment :S

[Zippy]

Their warnings/bans are slightly different to ours anyway. Over there if you accumulate three warnings in a short period of time you get a one or two week ban. Then all your warnings are stripped, however if you break the rules again, you are perma-banned.

Sounds fair to me.

**** that. Sounds like a dictatorship.

Thankgod we have Ben! :hugesmile:

[Firewire]

:shocked:

that's way too strict.
would hate it if it was like that here.
boring!

It is very strict. I think it's to stop spamming. They have the no double-post thing on SIN which can be annoying when trying to correct something.

[GypsyGoth]

You'd vote for everyone Claudia :joker:

Hahaha, well I only suggested three people here: Nate, Wombai and Enid. I don't think that many others would be good at it.

And I think I'd be a terrible mod.

[Tom4784]

I'd be a good mod, I'd be equally hell fire-y to everyone.

[Stacey.]

It is very strict. I think it's to stop spamming. They have the no double-post thing on SIN which can be annoying when trying to correct something.

yeah but sometimes you think you haven't posted a comment, then it appears twice.

[Ninastar]

It's like tibb politics in here!

[Vicky.]

I'd be a good mod, I'd be equally hell fire-y to everyone.

I do actually think you would be good. Nate though, definitely. Said that for a while

[Shasown]

What would I do?

- I'd make the discipline at a more disciplinery standard.
- Close unacceptable threads before an argument breaks out.
- Ban members who are constantly disobeying the rules.
- I'd be fair to the nice members.
- Fix people's spelling and grammar; how much fun that'll be.
- Stop the bullying and people ganging up on each other, also the cliques.



Yeah right, while you are about it stick a brush up your arse and sweep the forums while you go.

[Firewire]

Yeah right, while you are about it stick a brush up your arse and sweep the forums while you go.

Excuse me? Who do you actually think you're talking to?

[Zippy]

Moderators are human on all forums as far as Im aware. So accusations of bias will always prevail no matter what the system.

[Shasown]

yeah but sometimes you think you haven't posted a comment, then it appears twice.

Then instead of hitting post reply again go and refresh the forum index page and see if it has updated with your post.

[Smithy]

People who think other people would be good should be given a trial run to see how well they'd do

[Stacey.]

Then instead of hitting post reply again go and refresh the forum index page and see if it has updated with your post.

i do that. but you can mis take what you've already posted and stuff, or just not see your comment.

[Tom4784]

I do actually think you would be good. Nate though, definitely. Said that for a while

Thanks, I agree about Nate. He'd be a good choice.

[Braden]

To be honest, I would like to be a mod because i'm not part of any clique at all, but like LemonJam told me, I feel excluded from everyone else, because of these stupid cliques.

[Shasown]

Excuse me? Who do you actually think you're talking to?

Would have thought that was obvious. You.

If you think you will be able to edit all posts for typos, stop bullying, ganging up on people and the formation of cliques you may as well go the whole hog, dust and hoover while you are going about it.

You do realise here on earth there is only 24 hours in an earth day?

[Firewire]

Would have thought that was obvious. You.

If you think you will be able to edit all posts for typos, stop bullying, ganging up on people and the formation of cliques you may as well go the whole hog, dust and hoover while you are going about it.

You do realise here on earth there is only 24 hours in an earth day?

The grammar and spelling thing was sarcastic, because, of course I'm not going to edit every single post on here.

But I would try my best at the ganging up on people and the bullying on here, because that isn't impossible to tackle.

[Enid]

I agree though. Giving formal warning for double posting is a bit much. I was just giving an example.

I think what would be a good idea though, is for anyone that does break the rules, a mod can correct the post/reply to the rule-breaker explaining their fault and that if they do it again, they will receive a warning/infraction.

[Shasown]

The grammar and spelling thing was sarcastic, because, of course I'm not going to edit every single post on here.

But I would try my best at the ganging up on people and the bullying on here, because that isn't impossible to tackle.

You reckon?

It will always happen to some extent on any forum. Even when its against someone who seems like a troll but is making a perfectly valid point. And sometimes Mods get carried away with the mob too.

[WOMBAI]

So people aren't allowed to have similar opinions? I tend to agree with certain people often because I agree with their views not because I'm backing them up. I've often argued and disagreed with many people, also I've agreed with what you have had to say at times Surely if I was apart of some group I'd take potshots at you every chance I get? Like I said before HUGE difference between cliques and shared opinions.

As for that bold bit can you remember a certain alcoholic and Anorexia thread? You were in the wrong there but that didn't stop you saying that everyone was against you and things like that.

The 'group' defence is nothing more then a deflection used by people who are in the ropes in an argument.

It wasn't about right or wrong - it was about opinions! Mine wasn't popular - didn't think it would be! But one or two people were not just disagreeing - they were being aggressive and insulting - as usual! Some people it seems can't disagree without being extremely rude and offensive about it - and is based on personal issues - not the topic matter! That is what I objected to!

[Firewire]

You reckon?

It will always happen to some extent on any forum. Even when its against someone who seems like a troll but is making a perfectly valid point. And sometimes Mods get carried away with the mob too.

I know it will always happen. I didn't say that I'd banish it forever.

[Shasown]

I know it will always happen. I didn't say that I'd banish it forever.

Good, its good you have a realistic view of what you could achieve. A lot of Mods on forums take on the job and see the appointment through rose tinted glasses.

When the results they want dont appear, disillusionment and disappointment set in and gradually the time they spend on the forums drops, till its a random pop on every now and again.

[Tom4784]

It wasn't about right or wrong - it was about opinions! Mine wasn't popular - didn't think they would be! But one or two people were not just disagreeing - they were being aggressive and insulting - as usual! Some people it seems can't disagree without being extremely rude and offensive about it - and is based on personal issues - not the topic matter! That is what I objected to!

In the case of that thread it WASN'T about opinion, it asked if they actually existed and they do, you got a lot of hate because you had an inflammatory views like I got a lot of hate for my opinions on Cyber bullying. Just because people are agressive doesn't mean they are teaming up it's just that they agree that they disagreed with what you said like they did with me weeks ago.

Instead of crying out 'GROUPS GROUPS NOT FAIR' you should have tried to argue your point.

[King Gizzard]

I think they are pretty much waiting to see which ones come back. I think a few will, and a couple already have (eg. Sunny)

[Enid]

I think they are pretty much waiting to see which ones come back. I think a few will, and a couple already have (eg. Sunny)
Perhaps. I think they did say there will be a few new mods for when BB comes on. I just hope they choose the right people.

[Smithy]

Perhaps. I think they did say there will be a few new mods for when BB comes on. I just hope they choose the right people.

http://i950.photobucket.com/albums/ad345/SmithyGa/2cr55bc.gif?t=1274646206

[WOMBAI]

In the case of that thread it WASN'T about opinion, it asked if they actually existed and they do, you got a lot of hate because you had an inflammatory views like I got a lot of hate for my opinions on Cyber bullying. Just because people are agressive doesn't mean they are teaming up it's just that they agree that they disagreed with what you said like they did with me weeks ago.

Instead of crying out 'GROUPS GROUPS NOT FAIR' you should have tried to argue your point.

I did argue my point - but was often shouted down by one or two other members - which both myself and said members knew was not really about the topic (my unpopular views just provided the excuse needed) - just personal!

And no matter what you say - some people do team up - cliques do exist - I am hardly the only one who thinks that! If you are not aware of them - maybe you need to open your eyes more!

[Zippy]

It's gonna get crazy when BB starts so...good luck to whoever is on modwatch.

[WOMBAI]

It's gonna get crazy when BB starts so...good luck to whoever is on modwatch.

OMG - I barely recognised them! Most of them look bl**dy awful! Who is the hefty blonde one in the middle?

[Zippy]

OMG - I barely recognised them! Most of them look bl**dy awful! Who is the hefty blonde one in the middle?

Aisleyne? Nadia, Nikki, Grace, Kinga(?), Charlie. Plus I think Chanelle and some other blonde. :joker:

They're Gaga-ed btw.

[WOMBAI]

Aisleyne? Nadia, Nikki, Grace, Kinga(?), Charlie. Plus I think Chanelle and some other blonde. :joker:

They're Gaga-ed btw.

I can't make out which one is Aisleyne - the one in grey on the left - or the one in the middle! The middle one does not look good!

[Zippy]

I can't make out which one is Aisleyne - the one in grey on the left - or the one in the middle! The middle one does not look good!

Denim jacket is def Aisleyne. Plus I think its Sophie actually next to Charlie and apparently Michelle 2nd from left. So Ive read. :joker:

[WOMBAI]

Denim jacket is def Aisleyne. Plus I think its Sophie actually next to Charlie and apparently Michelle 2nd from left. So Ive read. :joker:

I think the one next to Charley is Grace - I can't see Sophie there at all! I also think Aisleyne is second from left - but I don't know who far left is or middle one!

[Zippy]

I think the one next to Charley is Grace - I can't see Sophie there at all! I also think Aisleyne is second from left - but I don't know who far left is or middle one!

Put your glasses on Granny! :joker:

L-R; Grace, Michelle, Kinga, Aisleyne, Sophie, Charlie, Nikki, Nadia.

I don't recognise that as Sophie tbh but apparently it is. I thought Chanelle. Sophies not a bad girl. But thats the official line up.

[Ramsay]

good mods off the top of my head
Dezzy
Shaun
Niamh
Gary

cus i can tell they wouldnt be biased at all

[lily.]

In my opinion, there's too much emphasis on pointless rules like evading the swear filter, and not enough emphasis on ones which would improve the forum... like not having a million threads on one subject, and not making a new thread every time your dog farts.

It would be a better place overall, if the 'new posts' thing didn't fling up all manner of ****e.

[Enid]

In my opinion, there's too much emphasis on pointless rules like evading the swear filter, and not enough emphasis on ones which would improve the forum... like not having a million threads on one subject, and not making a new thread every time your dog farts.

It would be a better place overall, if the 'new posts' thing didn't fling up all manner of ****e.
Exaaaactly lily. In fact, it has been mentioned umpteen times, that we don't need a swear filter on here and if the admins feel that we do, make it optional. And I'm sure there are browser plugins that can filter any foul language much more consistently than this place can. We absolutely do need swear filters. Most of us have potty mouths anyway.

Spam has become a huge issue recently. Sick of seeing welcome back threads, post count parties, etc etc. WE DON'T CAAAAARE.

[lily.]

I concur. Obviously all threads can't be interesting to all members, but let's face it, some of the threads made here aren't interesting to any of the members, and that's a problem.

The only option for us is to ignore chat&games in our options, but that isn't something I'd want to do, as I do still enjoy off-topic chats with people.

[Enid]

I concur. Obviously all threads can't be interesting to all members, but let's face it, some of the threads made here aren't interesting to any of the members, and that's a problem.

The only option for us is to ignore chat&games in our options, but that isn't something I'd want to do, as I do still enjoy off-topic chats with people.
I think admins should replace Chat & Games with a Spam forum. That place wouldn't even need moderation really. We have General Chat as it is. We don't need two chat forums.

[lily.]

That is a good idea actually, then I'll add it to my exclude list lol

[Jack_]

I think admins should replace Chat & Games with a Spam forum. That place wouldn't even need moderation really. We have General Chat as it is. We don't need two chat forums.

This is quite a good idea actually. And I agree that the swear filter needs to go. What a pointless pile of **** that is.

[InOne]

It's pretty shyte that no admin has even replied to this thread...

[Stu]

I think admins should replace Chat & Games with a Spam forum. That place wouldn't even need moderation really. We have General Chat as it is. We don't need two chat forums.
That's a really dope idea, actually :thumbs:.

Still waiting for a response from James half a year on as to why an optional swear filter has not been implemented, considering it pleases all sides.

[InOne]

I think a spam forum would be all out war lol

[lily.]

It could be left unmoderated though. Maybe they could put a disclaimer in it saying so.

So if people want to be *****, they can get on with it and the admin/mods don't have to bother about it.

[Enid]

That's a really dope idea, actually :thumbs:.

Still waiting for a response from James half a year on as to why an optional swear filter has not been implemented, considering it pleases all sides.
Think it's just the effort involved. Coding, etc. I dunno. Never ran a forum. I'm sure others have it, so why can't we?

[Stu]

After reading the 'This' thread and some posts in Meet The Members TBH I think the easiest thing we could do in order to clean up this place would be to ban a certain juvenile halfwit who has a legit mean streak and is getting very, very repetetive. In fact, the downwards spiral this place has been on seems to have coincided exactly with this tits arrival on the scene.

I can't be the only one getting sick of it.

I am, of course, talking about Stacey.

[Twilight]

After reading the 'This' thread and some posts in Meet The Members TBH I think the easiest thing we could do in order to clean up this place would be to ban a certain juvenile halfwit who has a legit mean streak and is getting very, very repetetive. In fact, the downwards spiral this place has been on seems to have coincided exactly with this tits arrival on the scene.

I can't be the only one getting sick of it.

I am, of course, talking about Stacey.

LOL i'd say i agree, but i'd get started on if i did tbh:P

[Ross]

I'm eating a strawberry.

[Enid]

After reading the 'This' thread and some posts in Meet The Members TBH I think the easiest thing we could do in order to clean up this place would be to ban a certain juvenile halfwit who has a legit mean streak and is getting very, very repetetive. In fact, the downwards spiral this place has been on seems to have coincided exactly with this tits arrival on the scene.

I can't be the only one getting sick of it.

I am, of course, talking about Stacey.
She hasn't always been this way though. I could tolerate her ignorance and general stupidity before, but it seems now all she comes on for is to cause arguments and hostility.

Anyway, this isn't about her. There are many halfwits on this forum that could join her ranks, so it's difficult to pin point. Ban 'em all.

[Ross]

She hasn't always been this way though. I could tolerate her ignorance and general stupidity before, but it seems now all she comes on for is to cause arguments and hostility.

Anyway, this isn't about her. There are many halfwits on this forum that could join her ranks, so it's difficult to pin point. Ban 'em all.

:(

[Jack_]

Oh, and another thing, stop deleting every ****ing thread. What happened to just closing them?

[InOne]

The whole Stacey/MM&I duo is really annoying. They plauge every thread. And have the same arguments with the same people. MM&I should go back to BBfan85 or whatever, at least it made a bit of sense then.

[Stu]

Oh, and another thing, stop deleting every ****ing thread. What happened to just closing them?
Aye. It only causes half a dozen more threads to pop up wondering why the last one closed. Same goes for deleting threads under non existent rules. Like what happened the other night. Yeah, they were annoying spammy threads that were obvious reactions to threads being deleted, but deleting them only made twice more annoying, spammy threads pop up.

A TiBB rule should be cited by a moderator each time a thread is closed. If you can't cite a rule - then don't close the thread. Your only going to piss people off and it devolves into moderating based on subjectivity. It doesn't matter if you think the thread is pointless. Is it breaking a rule yet? No? Then don't close it.

[James]

--Member Conduct
Use common courtesy when interacting with other forum members. Harassment, impersonation of someone else, or flame wars will not be tolerated. This site is for mature members and is not censored, however use common sense when posting. Though artistic nudity is allowed, pornographic material is not allowed and will result in administrative action. Basically, don't be a jackass and we won't have any problems.

-- Respect other members: Things like "lurk moar" or dog-piling on new members for every infraction nonsense will not be tolerated. While linking to the appropriate rules post is acceptable, there is no need for ten of you to chime in with "Oooooh you're in trouble~!" or variations thereof after that. Please do not behave like four to six year olds; it hurts.

--Refrain from mini-modding: With number one in mind, we would also like you to refrain from "mini-modding." The rules need to be enforced, yes, but that's why we have moderators in the first place. If you ever find a post that you think is out of line, report it by PMing one of the mods and we'll get to it as soon as we are able.

--Don't be an ass There is a difference between being "snarky" and being a damned ass. Keep in mind that a) not everyone will respond favorably to your oh-so-witty retorts, and b) said retorts are not always appropriate. This is not a carebear forum, but you are expected to at least observe standards of decency (i.e., politeness) when interacting with other members. We're not asking you to walk on eggshells, but napalming one another at random isn't conducive to a healthy community either.

--Cliquish Behavior: Please note that - regardless of post count, perceived or existing contribution, or favor - all members are equal. While it is natural to form bonds with other members of the board, the last thing we want is for cliques to develop. The warning signs are already present; and to be perfectly honest, nothing kills a forum faster than petty infighting and factions formed around some ridiculous notion of entitlement. Garden of Shadows is no more "your" board because you have been a member longer than, say, someone who joined yesterday. The condescension and related asshattery ends as of now.
Quote:
--Spam: This is covered in the forum rules, so you should have a good idea not to do it. But a little more about what spam is. Padding your post count by adding thank-yous to all the downloads in a forum is spam. Replying to a topic without adding anything of value (such as saying "I agree!" and nothing else) is spam. Posting very short replies to several topics in a short time frame is spam. You should be thinking about your posts before you make them. Please note that spamming is unacceptable in all forums except "Oh the Drama".

-- Attention Seeking: There is no real rule for this, but please note that excessive attention seeking really does not go over very well at GoS. Refrain from making posts just to get attention or highlight how cool you are, as it will cause more negative attention than positive. If you want to make a positive impression, you are more likely to do so by posting thoughtful, coherent posts and following the rules of the forum.

All those are already covered really in how the forum is moderated, apart from the 'cliquish behaviour' one. As much as I would like that not to exist on here isn't it up to the members themselves to reject it if they want?

Also the trouble with writing out in detail what is, and isn't, allowed is it doesn't leave room for any flexibility and people start quoting the rules back at you like some legal document (and no-one reads it through anyway, better to keep it simple)

That's a really dope idea, actually :thumbs:.

Still waiting for a response from James half a year on as to why an optional swear filter has not been implemented, considering it pleases all sides.

Technically, I believe that can't be acheived on this forum (easily at any rate). The swear-word filter is applied when you post; not when you view a thread.

I'm not really sold on the idea of not having swear-word filters at all.

Oh, and another thing, stop deleting every ****ing thread. What happened to just closing them?

It's bad for the image of the forum if petty arguments involving a small number of members are left of the forum, especially in the BB11 forum where new members will look at that forum first.

The thread, which was deleted there, it was just general arguing from the start, and no rule-break could easily be pinned down on one person. I didn't feel like reading through the whole thing, so it's better of deleted.

[Jessica.]

Can you make an announcement or something that people have to put threads in the correct section? It is really annoying.

[Stu]

Yeah fair enough if it cannot be applied to the forum and it's a technical thing.

I'm curious though : Why do you think swear words cheapen the forum, and not the dozens of under sixteen members who pay absoloutely no attention at all to where their fingers are going on the keyboard, do nothing but pick on others and pass stupid comments, and get away with it all?

We are not all stuck in your 1950's mentality towards the word '****'. We are, however, sick of kids squabbles driving the place into the muck. Everyone seems to agree on this yet nothing is ever done about it. I thought the majority was meant to win or something.

Just seems like really strange double standards. This forum looks cheap as hell, but swear words are certainly not whats causing that.

I never thought I would say this but the forums become to much of an easy ride. There is virtually nothing to fear from spending the day going from thread to thread derailing everything in sight. You might get an infraction point every now and then and - golly - a day or two of being banned from posting.

Heck, in the interest of fairness here I should have been banned a lot when I was at my worst but I wasn't really in retrospect.

[Enid]

I don't even know where the rules are. I was looking through the forums and couldn't find them?

[Ross]

I don't even know where the rules are. I was looking through the forums and couldn't find them?

http://www.thisisbigbrother.com/forums/faq.php?nojs=1#community

[Enid]

Okay so basically these are our only rules..

1. Treat other forum members with respect, no insults. *Important*
2. Type posts properly and don't use text speech.
3. Don't post anything offensive.

"Offensive"? That should be elaborated on more.

And there is absolutely no respect on here.

[Shasown]

Okay so basically these are our only rules..

1. Treat other forum members with respect, no insults. *Important*
2. Type posts properly and don't use text speech.
3. Don't post anything offensive.

"Offensive"? That should be elaborated on more.

And there is absolutely no respect on here.

Hey I respect you!


But I wont in the morning :wink:

[Enid]

Hey I respect you!


But I wont in the morning :wink:
Oh you dirty devil.

[Shasown]

Oh you dirty devil.

True but you know you want to.........

[Enid]

True but you know you want to.........
....

Hey! Get back on topic you!

[Shasown]

....

Hey! Get back on topic you!

..... apply those set of rules to the forum and hopefully see a better behaved membership.

[MeMyselfAndI]

why have u been talking about me and stace on page 7

[Enid]

why have u been talking about me and stace on page 7
Because you're part of the reason why this forum is knee deep in sh!te? I dunno. Guess. Don't try starting an argument in here.

[MeMyselfAndI]

:shocked:
somebody got up on the wrong side of bed this morning..

[Enid]

:shocked:
somebody got up on the wrong side of bed this morning..
Same side every morning. Hmmm, maybe that's why I'm always cranky.

[MeMyselfAndI]

Cranky?
:conf:

[Shasown]

MM&I top tip of the day if you want to have a battle of wits with someone at least come armed.

[andybigbro]

I agree with those rules.

I do think we have good mods and admin. This forum does get out a hand quite alot though. Mods do have lifes and cannot moderate the site 24 hours.
For those that said Vicky isnt suited to be a mod, I disagree. I think she is one of the best moderators we have had in ages.

I must say though i do miss they days when it was the likes of Mike, Di2001, Amy etc.

[Smithy]

bump

[Braden]

why did you just bump? :P

[Smithy]

Because of some of the idiot members who are getting away with everything recently, and I think someone said it should be bumped until it's in forced too :p

[The Human Santapede]

certainly Sia, Marc and ukturtle are useless mods, but tbf Rory goes through phases of being online for periods of time and when he is, he's a good mod. But I really can't stress how badly we need new mods.



Erm, excuse me. I stated clearly that I was a major mod for last summer, whearas this year I would be travelling, so getting on here would be hard. The same with Marc and Sia. We did our jobs well last year, and yes we are not on often, it's because we have other things to do also. If you do not like the situation, how about talking to Mark or james without coming across as stroppy or bitchy, and see if they can sort out the issue you guys are having. :hugesmile:

[Shaun]

good mods off the top of my head
Dezzy
Shaun
Niamh
Gary

cus i can tell they wouldnt be biased at all

pmsl aw, thank you, but I so would. Well, in a "BAN THE **** OUT OF EVERYONE I HATE" way.

[andybigbro]

lol if Shaun was a Mod, i would get banned.

[Stacey.]

lol if Shaun was a Mod, i would get banned.

Me too LOL

[spitfire]

Hardly worth changing the rules now,we've only got about Ten weeks left.

[Jessica.]

Me too LOL

Me Three.

[Zippy]

There doesnt seem to be many mods around during BB. I thought there would be more of them but there seems to be less. Very odd.

Unless theyre hiding behind the pot plants.