Racism vs homophobism vs bullying vs Sexism

[Crimson Dynamo]

what is worse?

[Patrick]

Bullying.

[Niamh.]

Depends on each individual situation imo, some racism cases are worse than some bullying cases and vice versa

[_Seth]

They're all exactly the same. :s They're all unfair, pointless and stupid.

[Crimson Dynamo]

They're all exactly the same. :s They're all unfair, pointless and stupid.

"what we need is a great big melting pot.."

[KG.]

They're all exactly the same. :s They're all unfair, pointless and stupid.

This.

[Crimson Dynamo]

They're all exactly the same. :s They're all unfair, pointless and stupid.

No one is doubting that all are indeed wrong. The question is what is worse?

[Twilight]

Depends on each individual situation imo, some racism cases are worse than some bullying cases and vice versa

This

[Princess]

It's not a fricking competetion!!!

[Crimson Dynamo]

It's not a fricking competetion!!!

no but it is worthwhile to discern what is worse and in need of say greater attention, policy, education and so forth.

Every head teacher is faced with decisions like this each term

[DigitalSid]

What the fecks homophobism?

[Crimson Dynamo]

What the fecks homophobism?

persecution of those who are homophobic

[DigitalSid]

persecution of those who are homophobic

Why is persecution of homophobic people a bad thing?

[Stu]

Why homophobism and not homophobia? You know exactly what you are doing. It's a stupid topic. No comparison.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Why homophobism and not homophobia? You know exactly what you are doing. It's a stupid topic. No comparison.

what is no comparison, are you saying they are all the same?

[Crimson Dynamo]

Why is persecution of homophobic people a bad thing?

it is bullying and that is one of the no, nos

do you condone it?

[DigitalSid]

what is no comparison, are you saying they are all the same?

*Facepalm*

[DigitalSid]

it is bullying and that is one of the no, nos

do you condone it?

Against people who are homophobic? Yes.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Against people who are homophobic? Yes.

then you are guilty of it.

[Crimson Dynamo]

i note no votes for sexism

hmmmmmmmmm

[DigitalSid]

then you are guilty of it.

No, your a dumbass.

[Crimson Dynamo]

No, your a dumbass.

it would help you stance and credibility if you chose an insult that would not be heard on an episode of Wizards of Waverley Place...

[DigitalSid]

Homophobism isn't a word and homophobic means someone who hates and fears homosexuals and are thus bullys themselves, I hope you didn't know that aren't just being an arse.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Homophobism isn't a word and homophobic means someone who hates and fears homosexuals and are thus bullys themselves, I hope you didn't know that aren't just being an arse.

I dont think homophobes fear gay people unless the gay person is a bully and then it would be correct to fear him.

i think you may have your wires crossed here?

[DigitalSid]

I dont think homophobes fear gay people unless the gay person is a bully and then it would be correct to fear him.

i think you may have your wires crossed here?

Phobia = Fear and or hatred.

[ElProximo]

what is worse?

I'd like to ask 'Which is the best?' aha.

I'm going to say bullying is the worst of the worst these days. Homophobism does seem to be more nefarious and you see here how people are really just unapologetic about it.
Usually the racist knows to try and hide it or deny it or explain their way out of it.
The bully will at least know to shift blame to the victim.
The sexist knows to keep his attitude muted and away from too many eyes,
but,
The homophobists is not only without remorse but even seems proud of it. Even when confronted they will even admit to the unfairness and STILL continue on.
So the homophobist might be the one to worry about the most as they willfully, remorselessly and even believing it is their 'right' carry on.
They also employ bullying so you can include that in there too.

[DigitalSid]

So yeah looks like Stu's right and the OP knew what they were doing, i.e. being a tit.

[_Seth]

No one is doubting that all are indeed wrong. The question is what is worse?

They're all equally retarded, IMO.

[DigitalSid]

They're all equally retarded, IMO.

"homophobism" and the others or homophobia and the others?

[_Seth]

"homophobism" and the others or homophobia and the others?

What?

Racism, homophobia, bullying and sexism is are equally retarded.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Phobia = Fear and or hatred.

I get that with things that one should naturally fear like animals/insects that can bite but i do not think the generic definition works with say hom-o-sexuals.

[Crimson Dynamo]

They're all equally retarded, IMO.

using the word "******" in this way rather precludes you from the thread

[Crimson Dynamo]

I'd like to ask 'Which is the best?' aha.

I'm going to say bullying is the worst of the worst these days. Homophobism does seem to be more nefarious and you see here how people are really just unapologetic about it.
Usually the racist knows to try and hide it or deny it or explain their way out of it.
The bully will at least know to shift blame to the victim.
The sexist knows to keep his attitude muted and away from too many eyes,
but,
The homophobists is not only without remorse but even seems proud of it. Even when confronted they will even admit to the unfairness and STILL continue on.
So the homophobist might be the one to worry about the most as they willfully, remorselessly and even believing it is their 'right' carry on.
They also employ bullying so you can include that in there too.

As usual the masked man makes the most sense

[DigitalSid]

What?

Racism, homophobia, bullying and sexism is are equally retarded.

But the OP didn't say homophobia he said "homophobism" a made up word for hatred or fear of in the thread starters word's "homophobics" i.e. people who fear or hate gay people.

[DigitalSid]

I'd like to ask 'Which is the best?' aha.

I'm going to say bullying is the worst of the worst these days. Homophobism does seem to be more nefarious and you see here how people are really just unapologetic about it.
Usually the racist knows to try and hide it or deny it or explain their way out of it.
The bully will at least know to shift blame to the victim.
The sexist knows to keep his attitude muted and away from too many eyes,
but,
The homophobists is not only without remorse but even seems proud of it. Even when confronted they will even admit to the unfairness and STILL continue on.
So the homophobist might be the one to worry about the most as they willfully, remorselessly and even believing it is their 'right' carry on.
They also employ bullying so you can include that in there too.

What the hell's a homophobist? Guys, TIBB, it's homophobe, someone who is homophobic. Jeez.

[Crimson Dynamo]

What the hell's a homophobist? Guys, TIBB, it's homophobe, someone who is homophobic. Jeez.

closing your mind to hate is almost being a hater yourself. :conf:

[DigitalSid]

closing your mind to hate is almost being a hater yourself. :conf:

What?? I give up. I voted Labour at the election but if this is what Blair meant by education, education, education then bloody hell, shocking.

[DigitalSid]

Homophobist is not a word, homophobe is.
Homophobism isn't a word, homophobia is.
Homophobic does not mean homosexual, homosexual does.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Homophobist is not a word, homophobe is.
Homophobism isn't a word, homophobia is.
Homophobic does not mean homosexual, homosexual does.

http://openlibrary.org/books/OL12223207M/Racism_Sexism_and_Homophobism

[DigitalSid]

http://www.google.com/search?hl=enq=define+homophobism

[DigitalSid]

http://www.thefreedictionary.com/homophobism

[DigitalSid]

Not a word.

[Crimson Dynamo]

http://www.google.com/search?hl=enq=define+homophobism

google homepage?

[DigitalSid]

Either way, that doesn't explain why you thought homophobic means gay and El thought homophobist means anything.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Not a word.

what would you call the fear of homophobia?

or someone who attacks homophobes?

[Crimson Dynamo]

Either way, that doesn't explain why you thought homophobic means gay and El thought homophobist means anything.

you are way out here, and i noticed you dodged the sexism question...

interesting

[DigitalSid]

google homepage?

Link fail. Search "define homophobism" and also view my second posted link

[Crimson Dynamo]

Link fail. Search "define homophobism" and also view my second posted link

its just a page in a poor dictionary that is not up to date?

[DigitalSid]

you are way out here, and i noticed you dodged the sexism question...

interesting

Not way out at all:

Me: What the fecks homophobism?
You: persecution of those who are homophobic

And I didn't mention the racism 'question' either, and?

[DigitalSid]

its just a page in a poor dictionary that is not up to date?

No, it's just that the word doesn't exist, that site searches multiple print dictionaries.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Not way out at all:

Me: What the fecks homophobism?
You: persecution of those who are homophobic

And I didn't mention the racism 'question' either, and?

Yes, all persecution is bad. This is something you seem not to know. Shame on you.

[DigitalSid]

Yes, all persecution is bad. This is something you seem not to know. Shame on you.

Shame on you for defending homophobes surely?

I didn't mention sexism or racism because those words exist and I'm not falling into the trap of suggesting one's worse than the other.

(I'm mixed race myself, I'm hardly not going to be against racism am I?)

[Crimson Dynamo]

Shame on you for defending homophobes surely?

I didn't mention sexism or racism because those words exist and I'm not falling into the trap of suggesting one's worse than the other.

(I'm mixed race myself, I'm hardly not going to be against racism am I?)

thank goodness you are not a head teacher

[_Seth]

meh =/ sorry, :(

[DigitalSid]

thank goodness you are not a head teacher

Thank goodness your not a teacher full stop, your grasp of the English language, assuming you seriously don't realise your defending people who irrationally hate gay people, is awful.

[ElProximo]

Thank goodness your not a teacher full stop, your grasp of the English language, assuming you seriously don't realise your defending people who irrationally hate gay people, is awful.

Well you can't be teaching anyone anything but maybe I can help tutor you (or try).

'Homosexual' was not a word either. Then some Psychiatrists needed a clinical name to describe a mental illness where men want sex with other men.
So they came up with Homo (men, males) Sexual (sex).
OK.
A few years later 'homosexuality' was removed from the lists of mental illnesses because of protests and activists orgs but the name stuck around.

Years later and there was no such word as 'homophobic' but some people who were not mental health professionals just started using the term to describe people who did not believe homosexuality was great.
OK.
So you see the word is not even proper and would actually describe an 'irrational fear of males or men'.
That makes no sense.
An irrational fear of mankind or men huh?
OK.
Then you need to understand how a dictionary works. It does not make the words. Words make it into the Dictionary.

So just like the nonsense word 'homophobic' became popular enough it was added to a dictionary,
likewise 'homophobism' becomes a word first. The Dictionary doesn't make it a word.

[Beastie]

Bullying.

EDIT - You should make a poll!

[DigitalSid]

Well you can't be teaching anyone anything but maybe I can help tutor you (or try).

'Homosexual' was not a word either. Then some Psychiatrists needed a clinical name to describe a mental illness where men want sex with other men.
So they came up with Homo (men, males) Sexual (sex).
OK.
A few years later 'homosexuality' was removed from the lists of mental illnesses because of protests and activists orgs but the name stuck around.

Years later and there was no such word as 'homophobic' but some people who were not mental health professionals just started using the term to describe people who did not believe homosexuality was great.
OK.
So you see the word is not even proper and would actually describe an 'irrational fear of males or men'.
That makes no sense.
An irrational fear of mankind or men huh?
OK.
Then you need to understand how a dictionary works. It does not make the words. Words make it into the Dictionary.

So just like the nonsense word 'homophobic' became popular enough it was added to a dictionary,
likewise 'homophobism' becomes a word first. The Dictionary doesn't make it a word.

Homo in homosexual means same not man :rolleyes:

[DigitalSid]

And I know full well how words are created, that doesn't make homophobist or homophobism words, they aren't.

[DigitalSid]

Just because your posts are needlessly long doesn't make them authorative or right, El Proximo, they usually make little or no sense or are completely wrong as is your belief that homophobe means fear of men. *Facepalm*

[Spike]

Obviously some people are going to be affected by one of these more than the others.
They are all as bad as each other. None of them are good or can be justified

[Angus]

what is worse?

Has to be bullying since all the other "isms" are derivatives of bullying.

[Stacey.]

Sexism. it's stupid. why does it matter if you're male or female?!

[Shasown]

Racism vs homophobism vs bullying vs Sexism

Interesting question LT, yes you are guilty of all 4 on occasions.

Surely Racism, Sexism and Homophobia/homophobism etc can in some forms be quantified as forms of bullying.

Whilst an irrational fear of homosexuals, a belief in the superiority of one sex or race isnt necessarily bullying in itself it can lead to it.

Best be careful LT, people may start changing the names they have for you to bully.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Racism vs homophobism vs bullying vs Sexism

Interesting question LT, yes you are guilty of all 4 on occasions.

Surely Racism, Sexism and Homophobia/homophobism etc can in some forms be quantified as forms of bullying.

Whilst an irrational fear of homosexuals, a belief in the superiority of one sex or race isnt necessarily bullying in itself it can lead to it.

Best be careful LT, people may start changing the names they have for you to bully.

meanwhile

pompous twat still remains your moniker...


:devil:

[Glenn.]

LOL at the OP's stupidity! Can't someone ban it?

[Shasown]

Well you can't be teaching anyone anything but maybe I can help tutor you (or try).

'Homosexual' was not a word either. Then some Psychiatrists needed a clinical name to describe a mental illness where men want sex with other men.
So they came up with Homo (men, males) Sexual (sex).
OK.
A few years later 'homosexuality' was removed from the lists of mental illnesses because of protests and activists orgs but the name stuck around.

Years later and there was no such word as 'homophobic' but some people who were not mental health professionals just started using the term to describe people who did not believe homosexuality was great.
OK.
So you see the word is not even proper and would actually describe an 'irrational fear of males or men'.
That makes no sense.
An irrational fear of mankind or men huh?
OK.
Then you need to understand how a dictionary works. It does not make the words. Words make it into the Dictionary.

So just like the nonsense word 'homophobic' became popular enough it was added to a dictionary,
likewise 'homophobism' becomes a word first. The Dictionary doesn't make it a word.

Interesting and amusing little history of the word homosexual El Proximo but complete and utter bollocks. In fact the whole post is pretty much garbage.

Now for your other little statement of proxifact (thats a word I intend to introduce into the English language describing what is claimed as a statement of fact thats actually pure Bullshit)

The term homophobia was first used by Dr George Wienberg, an American psychologist in 1969. he used in to describe the feelings a heterosexual man's fear that others might think he was gay

The first person to use the word to describe an irrational fear of homosexuals was Kenneth Smith in 1971 and guess what he did for a living ? Yes thats right another psychologist. ****ing oooops


Would you like chips with that order of ElProximo****edupagain?

[Shasown]

meanwhile

pompous twat still remains your moniker...


:devil:

:wink: Thats Mister Pompous Twat if you dont mind LT. Thought you stated in another thread that you didnt swear?

[Shaun]

Whoa. What's this. LT being a baiting bigoted ****head? THE WORLD'S TURNED UPSIDE DOWN.

[setanta]

Hilarious little read, but I have no idea why some of you even bother trying to converse with certain members on some of the lunancy they come out with.

[Fetch The Bolt Cutters]

all four put together are worst like if there was a black lesbian and somebody punched her in the face and said sorry no lesbians, were aloud gays but not lesbians (coz that sexist as well as homophobic) and then to make it worse they said ugh your ugly too bitch

[Shasown]

all four put together are worst like if there was a black lesbian and somebody punched her in the face and said sorry no lesbians, were aloud gays but not lesbians (coz that sexist as well as homophobic) and then to make it worse they said ugh your ugly too bitch

Or even worse they said "Ugh your ugly too you old bitch". Lets throw in a little ageism eh?

[Stu]

all four put together are worst like if there was a black lesbian and somebody punched her in the face and said sorry no lesbians, were aloud gays but not lesbians (coz that sexist as well as homophobic) and then to make it worse they said ugh your ugly too bitch
You have a vivid imagination.