England vs. USA - Discussion Thread - K.O 7.30pm

[Smithy]

1 - 1

The US was an own goal, terrible mistake by Green :/

He redeemed himself though in the 2nd half to be fair, I may have been more than a bit harsh in the heat of the moment lol

:shocked:
I'm actually shocked we didn't win


But hopefully this will shut up the arrogant people who think this is going to be a walk in the park

[setanta]

The papers are negative 99% of the time. If you're listening to them then, well... I won't even say what I'm thinking. And no I don't think we'll win the world cup, I've said Holland will for ages.

Im not listening to them at all; I'm judging it with subjective eyes here and it was awful.

[Novo]

Secretly i think England let the USA draw with them to make it more off a challenge in the last 2 games

Green thought

" I'll give them a goal "

[setanta]

Onyewu! And he is coming back from injury! He played well, given that Heskey is such a handful for a sweeper\!

Yeah, he was excellent. Very impressed with him.

[Niamh.]

Hard luck guys

[MissKittyFantastico]

:shocked:
I'm actually shocked we didn't win


But hopefully this will shut up the arrogant people who think this is going to be a walk in the park

I'm not shocked exactly, I knew it would be a hard game because of the mentality the US were going into the game with, I'm not upset really.

I'm taking the positives out of it because we looked much stronger in the second half and were unlucky not to score tbh.

[Nemo123]

Im not listening to them at all; I'm judging it with subjective eyes here and it was awful.

Giles is disecting England here. He's right.

But I suppose hindsight is easy.

[MissKittyFantastico]

Hard luck guys

:hug:

[Locke.]

I'm surprised USA played for a draw towards the end, we were there for the taking really. Had used our 3 subs, one of our center backs on a yellow card...

[setanta]

Giles is disecting England here. He's right.

But I suppose hindsight is easy.

I'm not watching it. I'd say he's tearing them apart, right? They were shi%e.

[Novo]

Rooney is saving his goals for Algeria and Slovenia

[Jase]

Was unlucky but nvm :)

We still got more games to go and we will win them

[Niamh.]

:hug:

:hug: it's only the start anyhow!

[Locke.]

Good old Stevie winning me money 4 minutes into the game.

[King Gizzard]

Karl is an England fan

Karl is the best Irish person I know

[Locke.]

1966: England draw their first game and win the World Cup.

1990: England draw their first game and make the semi final.

[Nemo123]

I'm not watching it. I'd say he's tearing them apart, right? They were shi%e.

He particularly highlighted Terry hoofing the ballover the midfield. No wonder Giles spotted that. He'd never have done that in his Ireland days. He wouldn't even let the GK kick the ball long.

[Locke.]

Most Irish people on this forum are horrible, biased, jealous wankers. Simple as.

[MissKittyFantastico]

:hug: it's only the start anyhow!

That's what I'm saying!! It's only the first game and most people knew this would be the hardest game in our group!

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_Se87_wu2VzA/SZNLGaGtR2I/AAAAAAAAAGM/wkiGwwatzfs/s400/england_badge_2.jpg

[Novo]

Why are you talking about Ireland

They aren't even in the world cup they are sat at home drinking away their miserable life's whilst the people of England will be out celebrating being top of the group

[Nemo123]

Most Irish people on this forum are horrible, biased, jealous wankers. Simple as.

Personally, I think a few of us are very fair.

[Niamh.]

Karl is an England fan

Karl is the best Irish person I know

besides me of course Nathan:hugesmile:

[MissKittyFantastico]

Karl is an England fan

Karl is the best Irish person I know

And Niamh :)

[setanta]

Most Irish people on this forum are horrible, biased, jealous wankers. Simple as.

Not at all. We just call it as we see it and that was pi$$ poor. We'd say the same for any team.

[setanta]

Why are you talking about Ireland

They aren't even in the world cup they are sat at home drinking away their miserable life's whilst the people of England will be out celebrating being top of the group

You resort to insults when we simply call a performance utter muck, which it was? That's mental.

[Novo]

You resort to insults when we simply call a performance utter muck, which it was? That's mental.

More Fact then Insult

[Locke.]

I'm sure you would :whistle:

Simon Cowell and James Corden both agree that England are still going to win the World Cup. That's that then.

[Jase]

I'm sure you would :whistle:

Simon Cowell and James Corden both agree that England are still going to win the World Cup. That's that then.

I agree too there totally right :)

COME ON ENGLAND

[MissKittyFantastico]

For god's sake!!!!!!

[Nemo123]

Simon Cowell's got mascara on his eyebrows.

[Jase]

Simon Cowell's got mascara on his eyebrows.

Its TV, they wear make up

[Nemo123]

Its TV, they wear make up

Well he does obviously

[Locke.]

Setanta are you backing the beard?

[setanta]

More Fact then Insult

Nah, you just have a problem with anyone criticizing England's performance, that's all so you'll employ any petty tactic. Fairly sad when all I'm doing is talking about football, and Facts here. They were crap, the end.

[setanta]

Setanta are you backing the beard?

Your man at the back for the States? Yeah, he was excellent tonight.

[King Gizzard]

Backing the beard

Not shaving till we lift that trophy next month

[Novo]

Nah, you just have a problem with anyone criticizing England's performance, that's all so you'll employ any petty tactic. Fairly sad when all I'm doing is talking about football, and Facts here. They were crap, the end.

They were very Unlucky and USA should never have scored

Stats are everything and England destroyed USA :)

[MissKittyFantastico]

We'll still top the group anyway, I'm not gonna say we played the best because we blatantly are far from that at the moment, but to say we were ****e is just rubbbish really.

Roll on next Friday!!!

[Shasown]

Jesus Christ get a grip, if Engkand want to win the world cup, next game they have to pick up their performance by 100% and continue like that every game.

They are only top of their group because Its the name of the team they drawed with is USA not America.

The performance wasnty too bad but not the performance of World Cup winners.

And its alright saying they drew their first game in 1966 and won. Statistics and facts like that dont mean diddly, and its comments like that, that set other nations against us. Forget 66 its in the past. How many times have we won/drawn or lost our first game and then got knocked out?

[setanta]

They were very Unlucky and USA should never have scored

Stats are everything and England destroyed USA :)

Stats? You lot are nuts. You were terrible and any half decent side would have killed you tonight.

[King Gizzard]

''They were crap'' thats an opinion, not fact

[setanta]

''They were crap'' thats an opinion, not fact

Read the papers tomorrow and you'll see that I'm right. Shocking performance. Wow, when Ireland play poorly I'm the first to admit it.

[MissKittyFantastico]

Jesus Christ get a grip, if Engkand want to win the world cup, next game they have to pick up their performance by 100% and continue like that every game.

They are only top of their group because Its the name of the team they drawed with is USA not America.

The performance wasnty too bad but not the performance of World Cup winners.

And its alright saying they drew their first game in 1966 and won. Statistics and facts like that dont mean diddly, and its comments like that, that set other nations against us. Forget 66 its in the past. How many times have we won/drawn or lost our first game and then got knocked out?

I don't think anyone in here has said that we played like World Cup winners tonight though.

It just wasn't as shocking as some people are saying either and there were more positives to take out of it going forward than negatives imo.

[MissKittyFantastico]

Omg, noone is saying that they played amazingly tonight!!!!

Give me strength if it's gonna be like this every time England play!!!

[King Gizzard]

Omg, noone is saying that they played amazingly tonight!!!!

Give me strength if it's gonna be like this every time England play!!!

you're sexy

;)

[MissKittyFantastico]

you're sexy

;)

:laugh2:

[setanta]

Right negatives.... King is bolloxed, Gerrard and Lampard were hopeless together in midfield, you couldn't maintain possession and against a technically gifted side like Spain you would have been played off the park. Poor old Rooney got no service because you played the long ball game most of the time. Still have no idea who to play in goal and your back line is very questionable now.... Carragher?! It was just really bad.

Positives? Well, you got a draw at least and it's only the first match.

[Novo]

Stats? You lot are nuts. You were terrible and any half decent side would have killed you tonight.

Terrible? what game were you watching? or were you drunk whilst watching? probably drunk...

[setanta]

Terrible? what game were you watching? or were you drunk whilst watching? probably drunk...

No, I was just watching in shock, wondering how a team as poor as that can be considered one of the favourites. You're just blessed that you're in a weak group, that's all.

[Locke.]

Positives:

Heskey proved that he was worthwhile taking and had a very good game, Gerrard had a strong game and made plenty of key challenges as well as scoring a goal, Glen Johnson who many people have had doubts over played very well down the right wing and played loads of great balls in, the second half the whole squad played well together as a team.

And as for the Gerrard and Lamped partnership not working, well we don't have to worry about that anymore anyway. Barry is back for the next game to sit in the middle with Lampard and Gerrard will either play instead on the left or just behind Rooney.

Poor Algeria.

[MissKittyFantastico]

Positives: Johnson played well, Lennon played well, Heskey had an excellent game and should have scored, he and Rooney played well together actually, Rooney was man marked for most of the game, Lampard had an impressive second half, defence was a bit shaky in the first half but improved in the second, we had several chances on goal and were unlucky not to win.

Plus the USA are NOT an easy team by any means and like I've said some of these players are still learning how to play together effectively.

[MissKittyFantastico]

Positives:

Heskey proved that he was worthwhile taking and had a very good game, Gerrard had a strong game and made plenty of key challenges as well as scoring a goal, Glen Johnson who many people have had doubts over played very well down the right wing and played loads of great balls in, the second half the whole squad played well together as a team.

And as for the Gerrard and Lamped partnership not working, well we don't have to worry about that anymore anyway. Barry is back for the next game to sit in the middle with Lampard and Gerrard will either play instead on the left or just behind Rooney.

Poor Algeria.

Good point actually I forgot about Barry being fit which will mean the formation changing anyway Gerrard sitting just behind Rooney would be a much better option imo :)

[Ninastar]

oh yeah, and what was the point in that guy getting switched at the end? he must have been on the pitch for 2 or 3 seconds before the whistle blew LOL

[Locke.]

oh yeah, and what was the point in that guy getting switched at the end? he must have been on the pitch for 2 or 3 seconds before the whistle blew LOL

They were wasting time so they were guaranteed a point.

[MissKittyFantastico]

oh yeah, and what was the point in that guy getting switched at the end? he must have been on the pitch for 2 or 3 seconds before the whistle blew LOL

He didn't even get on the pitch :joker: that was pure time wasting lol

[Novo]

oh yeah, and what was the point in that guy getting switched at the end? he must have been on the pitch for 2 or 3 seconds before the whistle blew LOL

The dirty American ***** wasting time

Rooney should have walked up to that gomez guy and headbutted him

[setanta]

You were dire against an average side like the States who could have opened you up on a number of occasions if they had more guile up front. You bypassed midfield at every moment, reverting to the long ball game, which makes me think that Capello really is still unsure as to how to effectively utilize the players he has. Plus, it shows that if Rooney is marked out of it you're in all sorts of trouble.

You couldn't maintain possession which really isn't a good sign for a team who wants to win a world cup. It's the most important facet of the international game and you failed miserably with it. How many times did you lose the ball cheaply or just hoof it upfield? It was terrible.

[Nemo123]

It goes to show. There's too much money in the English Prem and too little indigenous talent. All the best Prem players are foreign.

[Locke.]

I give up Setanta I might aswell go and talk to a brick wall.

[Novo]

You were dire against an average side like the States who could have opened you up on a number of occasions if they had more guile up front. You bypassed midfield at every moment, reverting to the long ball game, which makes me think that Capello really is still unsure as to how to effectively utilize the players he has. Plus, it shows that if Rooney is marked out of it you're in all sorts of trouble.

You couldn't maintain possession which really isn't a good sign for a team who wants to win a world cup. It's the most important facet of the international game and you failed miserably with it. How many times did you lose the ball cheaply or just hoof it upfield? It was terrible.

USA are not an average side anymore they are one of the most improved international teams in the game.. we had most of the american attacks covered so they didn't have chance to open us up... And we have a big man up front so why not huff ball it? it ain't pretty but it works and for the most part we kept the ball on the ground.. did you not see the build up play for the goal? Rooney had his chances and on another day could have scored them roll on Algeria and Slovenia..

[MissKittyFantastico]

I think it's hitting head against brick wall time here, some people are just totally biased and won't see things any other way so this is a pointless convo at this point.

Just repeating myself now and it's getting boring. We didn't play the best and no we didn't look like a team who will go on to win at the moment but it's the FIRST GAME. There were plenty of positives to take out of that game, we did actually make some excellent plays through the midfield, there's no law that says the ball can't be hoofed up, if it works why not? We've never played the most attractive football in the world, but there's plenty to work with there.

[Nemo123]

The teams who rack up the most goals against Algeria will qualify.

[setanta]

There was no positives. It was shocking. Just read the papers tomorrow. You wont get through the second round based on that result. A little realism is always important.

[MissKittyFantastico]

From someone who was slating the papers yesterday was it(?), I actually find using them as a tool to back you up now as quite amusing.

[Novo]

There was no positives. It was shocking. Just read the papers tomorrow. You wont get through the second round based on that result. A little realism is always important.

Yes read the Papers

they are the answer to everything

[setanta]

From someone who was slating the papers yesterday was it(?), I actually find using them as a tool to back you up now as quite amusing.

Well, not the tabloids... broadsheets will have a column or two about it.

Actually interesting looking at the Guardian now and seeing how people have been rating the players. Gerrard is getting the highest mark for England with 6.4, and the average is about 5. States are getting far higher marks. At least some people see that it was a bad performance.

[Shasown]

I think it's hitting head against brick wall time here, some people are just totally biased and won't see things any other way so this is a pointless convo at this point.

Just repeating myself now and it's getting boring. We didn't play the best and no we didn't look like a team who will go on to win at the moment but it's the FIRST GAME. There were plenty of positives to take out of that game, we did actually make some excellent plays through the midfield, there's no law that says the ball can't be hoofed up, if it works why not? We've never played the most attractive football in the world, but there's plenty to work with there.

Thats about it, not the best they could play but then again far from the worst. We did lose possession too easy with long balls, the yanks had greater possession than us.

[Nemo123]

The (British) press only do BRILLIANT! or SH!TE!

and no prizes for guessing which it will be tomorrow.

[MissKittyFantastico]

Well, not the tabloids... broadsheets will have a column or two about it.

Actually interesting looking at the Guardian now and seeing how people have been rating the players. Gerrard is getting the highest mark for England with 6.4, and the average is about 5. States are getting far higher marks. At least some people see that it was a bad performance.

But you are saying that we were shocking and we were far from shocking. Noone in here is saying we had an amazing game, we didn't, but you can't sit there and tell me that an unbiased person would say that we were totally ****e either and that there was nothing there to draw positives from.

I think even if we had won 4 -1 you still would have come in here and made some kind of derogatory comments because you don't seem to be able to give England any credit at all.

[MissKittyFantastico]

Thats about it, not the best they could play but then again far from the worst. We did lose possession too easy with long balls, the yanks had greater possession than us.

Yes that about sums it up. We did give away too much posession and we do need to step it up considerably, especially when it gets past the group stages, but for a first game, against the hardest opposition in our group, with some players who are still finding their feet/getting used to playing together, I don't think it was actually that shabby at all. And the USA played exceptionally well, especially in the first half.

[setanta]

But you are saying that we were shocking and we were far from shocking. Noone in here is saying we had an amazing game, we didn't, but you can't sit there and tell me that an unbiased person would say that we were totally ****e either and that there was nothing there to draw positives from.

I think even if we had won 4 -1 you still would have come in here and made some kind of derogatory comments because you don't seem to be able to give England any credit at all.

I'm not being derogatory here. It just wasn't a good performance, that's all, especially from a team who have aspirations of winning the whole tournament. I'm putting this into perspective here for a team who were apparently one of the favs prior to the start of the World Cup. You wont be winning anything based on that performance.

[MissKittyFantastico]

I'm not being derogatory here. It just wasn't a good performance, that's all, especially from a team who have aspirations of winning the whole tournament. I'm putting this into perspective here for a team who were apparently one of the favs prior to the start of the World Cup. You wont be winning anything based on that performance.

And again I'm saying noone here is saying we could play like that and expect to win the whole thing. But once again it is only the first game! The potential is there we just need to put it into practice, that's all.

[Nemo123]

But you are saying that we were shocking and we were far from shocking. Noone in here is saying we had an amazing game, we didn't, but you can't sit there and tell me that an unbiased person would say that we were totally ****e either and that there was nothing there to draw positives from.

I think even if we had won 4 -1 you still would have come in here and made some kind of derogatory comments because you don't seem to be able to give England any credit at all.

Not really having a go at humble spirits like yours. If you were representative of the whole England fanbase then you wouldn't be setting yourself up for a fall. It's the arrogant ones who desreve their noses rubbed in it.

[setanta]

Hansen saying exactly what I did. Possession was terrible and they wont win anything playing like that. Shearer saying that they were very predictable. Dixon saying that it left alot to be desired.

[MissKittyFantastico]

Why are you still going on about it? Seriously we get it, you don't need to keep popping back every time someone agrees with you. Jeez.

[Novo]

Friday night will be a different story

[setanta]

Why are you still going on about it? Seriously we get it, you don't need to keep popping back every time someone agrees with you. Jeez.

One comment made about it in over 2 hours is hardly going on about it. Good lord.

[MissKittyFantastico]

One comment made about it in over 2 hours is hardly going on about it. Good lord.

But you're just coming back in to stir the pot and try and make the same point again, seriously it's really tiresome now!

[setanta]

But you're just coming back in to stir the pot and try and make the same point again, seriously it's really tiresome now!

I'm not stirring anything here... you all told me I was wrong and even Dixon and Shearer are agreeing with me. Just wanted to validate my analysis of the match.

[Novo]

Patrick Viera agrees with me

[MissKittyFantastico]

I'm not stirring anything here... you all told me I was wrong and even Dixon and Shearer are agreeing with me. Just wanted to validate my analysis of the match.

Did they say we were utter ****e? I highly doubt it.

[King Gizzard]

This thread is completely void now the match is over

What a great performance by England

[setanta]

Did they say we were utter ****e? I highly doubt it.

Well, they can hardly say that on national tv.

[MissKittyFantastico]

Can I make the next England thread please? :)

[MissKittyFantastico]

Well, they can hardly say that on national tv.

Oh stop being so pedantic.

[King Gizzard]

But I made the opening post so beautiful

Just look at it..

[Kerry]

Great game. Shame about butterfingers. But it was a blooper and most can see that.... we played great. Inspired confidence, especially second half. I'd swap Heskey for Crouch though.

Love seeing Rooney on the ball. He's like "It's Mine, It's MINE!!!!!!!!" :laugh:

[MissKittyFantastico]

But I made the opening post so beautiful

Just look at it..

Mine will be better :p

[setanta]

Oh stop being so pedantic.

Read back and you'll see what they said. None of them were impressed and all thought it wasn't good enough. Whatever.

[MissKittyFantastico]

Great game. Shame about butterfingers. But it was a blooper and most can see that.... we played great. Inspired confidence, especially second half. I'd swap Heskey for Crouch though.

Love seeing Rooney on the ball. He's like "It's Mine, It's MINE!!!!!!!!" :laugh:

Heskey was MOTM for me though, I thought he had really good game, showed why Capello took him :)

I love Rooney when he's playing for England, he works his ass off, he must have been frustrated as hell tonight.

[Kerry]

Heskey was MOTM for me though, I thought he had really good game, showed why Capello took him :)

I love Rooney when he's playing for England, he works his ass off, he must have been frustrated as hell tonight.

Heskey is a man moutain but a little slow for me. Nearly killed their goalie though :joker: I honestly thought his ribs had snapped in his chest or something at the time!

[MissKittyFantastico]

Heskey is a man moutain but a little slow for me. Nearly killed their goalie though :joker: I honestly thought his ribs had snapped in his chest or something at the time!

That was awful for me to see with Howard being our keeper at Everton :( Thought he had cracked ribs for sure :bawling:

He's great at holding the ball up though Heskey, and Rooney has said he's his favoured partner up front, which actually suprised me but I can see why :)

[King Gizzard]

Mine will be better :p

You will have to do it in the same style or I will inject you with rabies..

[MissKittyFantastico]

You will have to do it in the same style or I will inject you with rabies..

But I've still got the aids from last time :(

[Kerry]

That was awful for me to see with Howard being our keeper at Everton :( Thought he had cracked ribs for sure :bawling:

He's great at holding the ball up though Heskey, and Rooney has said he's his favoured partner up front, which actually suprised me but I can see why :)

Oh yeah of course :/ It was a right old crack he got. Surprised he played on tbh

[Novo]

Not bothered if Howard was out for the whole year.. Would have sacrifised that for England scoring there

[MissKittyFantastico]

Oh yeah of course :/ It was a right old crack he got. Surprised he played on tbh

He's a warrior is our Timmy!

[MissKittyFantastico]

Not bothered if Howard was out for the whole year.. Would have sacrifised that for England scoring there

:nono:

[Novo]

Don't really rate howard that much anyway

[MissKittyFantastico]

Don't really rate howard that much anyway

He wasn't that solid last season I'll give you that, he flapped about a bit too much for my liking, but he's still a really decent keeper imo

[Novo]

He's no Mcgregor

[King Gizzard]

He's no Brad Friedel

[King Gizzard]

He's no Peter Enkleman

[MissKittyFantastico]

Shut up Nathan lol

[King Gizzard]

Told

[MissKittyFantastico]

:kiss:

[King Gizzard]

Save that for Gregory :nono:

[MissKittyFantastico]

Save that for Gregory :nono:

Yes, :spin:

[setanta]

http://eis.bris.ac.uk/~gemaa/32050/usa.gif

Greatest Soccer team ever.

[King Gizzard]

Bit hypocritical

[MissKittyFantastico]

Oh my we have sunk to new levels now to get a reaction.

Sorry but :laugh2:

[Novo]

Oh Wow we managed to draw with the greatest soccer team ever

[Locke.]

http://eis.bris.ac.uk/~gemaa/32050/usa.gif

Greatest Soccer team ever.

You were dire against an average side like the States

.

[setanta]

.

Soccer David, soccer. It's a joke. F3ck me. lol.

[setanta]

Oh my we have sunk to new levels now to get a reaction.

Sorry but :laugh2:

It's funny and you know it.

[MissKittyFantastico]

It's funny and you know it.

Yes but we're laughing AT you James not with you.

[setanta]

Yes but we're laughing AT you James not with you.

I suppose it's better than crying really, isn't it?

[MissKittyFantastico]

I suppose it's better than crying really, isn't it?

Nothing to cry about really! Come on even you have to admit that was childish and pathetic.

[setanta]

Nothing to cry about really! Come on even you have to admit that was childish and pathetic.

No it wasn't. It was gas cuz I knew I'd get a reaction, plus I thought it was quite funny considering what you lot said the score would be before the match.

[Big Brother Fan]

Greatest Facebook Group Going (http://www.facebook.com/pages/Watch-me-save-this-routine-shot-LOL-jk-im-Robert-Green/134632619885232)

[MissKittyFantastico]

No it wasn't. It was gas cuz I knew I'd get a reaction, plus I thought it was quite funny considering what you lot said the score would be before the match.

I really think you'd be much happier if you just admitted you're bitter as hell that Ireland didn't make the WC and now you're doing anything to knock the team that most people on the forum are backing to win the thing. Go on, it won't kill you.

[Novo]

Greatest Facebook Group Going (http://www.facebook.com/pages/Watch-me-save-this-routine-shot-LOL-jk-im-Robert-Green/134632619885232)

The greatest one ever is the Thierry henry one :)

Cut your World cup short, English legend :)

[MissKittyFantastico]

Greatest Facebook Group Going (http://www.facebook.com/pages/Watch-me-save-this-routine-shot-LOL-jk-im-Robert-Green/134632619885232)

Oh look another joker :xyxwave:

[setanta]

I really think you'd be much happier if you just admitted you're bitter as hell that Ireland didn't make the WC and now you're doing anything to knock the team that most people on the forum are backing to win the thing. Go on, it won't kill you.

It has nothing to do with that, seriously. I just love teams that hype themselves up falling on their ar$es, that's all. And you have. Don't make it into something it's not.

[MissKittyFantastico]

It has nothing to do with that, seriously. I just love teams that hype themselves up falling on their ar$es, that's all. And you have. Don't make it into something it's not.

I don't see the team hyping themselves up. And that's really a very sad and negative view to have on the whole thing really if that's the actual reason.

[Locke.]

It has nothing to do with that, seriously. I just love teams that hype themselves up falling on their ar$es, that's all. And you have. Don't make it into something it's not.

You must have had a good laugh when Ireland thought they could knock France out then :joker:

[King Gizzard]

It was funny and stupid when on James Cordens show when they put Ireland on the wall chart instead of France

Who's to say France wouldnt of still beaten them if it wasnt for that Henry hand of god!

[setanta]

It's these kinda of comments that make me realise that I'm right to love seeing England lose. Unbelievable.

[setanta]

I don't see the team hyping themselves up. And that's really a very sad and negative view to have on the whole thing really if that's the actual reason.

It's not sad or negative; it's just how it is and it's not a view that I hold all by my own. FEck me.

[MissKittyFantastico]

It actually is and I'd say the same to anyone with that kind of attitude. How much joy can you really get from being able to say 'hahaha I told you so, woooooo I'm amazing'? I guess it depends on the type of person you are but I just fail to understand it tbh.

[setanta]

It actually is and I'd say the same to anyone with that kind of attitude. How much joy can you really get from being able to say 'hahaha I told you so, woooooo I'm amazing'? I guess it depends on the type of person you are but I just fail to understand it tbh.

it has nothing to do with arrogance for me or "I told you so". The difficulty with English fans on here is that you can't admit your teams failings or have realistic goals. That's why your team from 1990, who reached the semi finals by the way only to be knocked out in a penatly shoot out - were greeted with just the press and a few fans, whereas Ireland, who reached the quarter finals in the same World Cup were greeted by half of the country. Game over as far as I'm concerned. And that's a fact.

[MissKittyFantastico]

it has nothing to do with arrogance for me or "I told you so". The difficulty with English fans on here is that you can't admit your teams failings or have realistic goals. That's why your team from 1990, who reached the semi finals by the way only to be knocked out in a penatly shoot out - were greeted with just the press and a few fans, whereas Ireland, who reached the quarter finals in the same World Cup were greeted by half of the country. Game over as far as I'm concerned. And that's a fact.

I'm quite aware what happened in 1990. And stop tarring every England supporter with the same brush to suit your arguments. You're the one that just can't let it go and then wonder why people in here make jokes about the Irish not being there this time around. I'm actually starting to think that you thrive on the attention and the hostility and believe me that really is sad.

[setanta]

I'm quite aware what happened in 1990. And stop tarring every England supporter with the same brush to suit your arguments. You're the one that just can't let it go and then wonder why people in here make jokes about the Irish not being there this time around. I'm actually starting to think that you thrive on the attention and the hostility and believe me that really is sad.

You're turning me into a villain when I'm not. Did you not see how the Henry debacle was met with here? And yes, I will tar you all with the same brush when you're incapable of seeing logic when it concerns your teams performance. I wasn't talking vitriolic sh$te there - my judgements were vindicated by the BBC crew and yet you still condemn me. F£cking mental. Seriously.

[MissKittyFantastico]

You're turning me into a villain when I'm not. Did you not see how the Henry debacle was met with here? And yes, I will tar you all with the same brush when you're incapable of seeing logic when it concerns your teams performance. I wasn't talking vitriolic sh$te there - my judgements were vindicated by the BBC crew and yet you still condemn me. F£cking mental. Seriously.

OH MY GOD. Okay, I thought I might actually be able to have a sensible conversation with you but obviously you're still the same old setanta who doesn't actually take in anything that anyone says and twists everything to suit your own warped view. And you're tarring everyone with the same brush because it suits. Have fun talking to yourself because I'm not wasting any more time on this nonsense.

[setanta]

OH MY GOD. Okay, I thought I might actually be able to have a sensible conversation with you but obviously you're still the same old setanta who doesn't actually take in anything that anyone says and twists everything to suit your own warped view. And you're tarring everyone with the same brush because it suits. Have fun talking to yourself because I'm not wasting any more time on this nonsense.

I'm not twisting anyting. You lot were shi^e tonight - Shearer, Souness, Giles, Hansen, Dixon agree with me - the end! But you can't do that, can you?

[MissKittyFantastico]

Go to bed James.

[Novo]

Yes wake up and talk more sense in the Morning

[setanta]

Go to bed James.

Oh I will sleep very well, safe in the knowledge that England have absolutely no chance of winning the thing. Carragher?!!

[Locke.]

Why are you randomly putting legends names on the end of your posts?

[MissKittyFantastico]

Oh I will sleep very well, safe in the knowledge that England have absolutely no chance of winning the thing. Carragher?!!

Yes he played very well tonight when he was brought on. I'm so glad you're starting to see sense at last :)

[scot]

Green? ha ha ha ha ha...England? ha ha ha ha ha. No chance.

[Novo]

Green? ha ha ha ha ha...England? ha ha ha ha ha. No chance.

Ha ha ha ha Scotland? ha ha ha ha ha where are you? I am a Rangers fan and all but even they hate supporting that ****e at times

[Chilltown]

USA! USA! USA! :dance::dance:

[30stone]

Don't think you watched the second half mate.

Was a good performance from USA first half, shame they needed Robert Green to score for them.

Just have to beat the other 2 by more goals than USA do and the group is sorted.

Exactly after greens mistake (i dont blame green humans are inclined to make mistakes sometimes)

Our performance was quality and we pressed a lot in the second half.. should have got another dont believe heskey missed a sitter..

and shaun wright phillips and lennon.. bet capello is on the phone to walcott.. *sorry i never should have dropped you, sneak out to africa and shave stupid slits in your eyebrows so you can take lennons place*

[arista]

USA! USA! USA! :dance::dance:



Yes the Yanks got Lucky as Our Goal Keeper messed up.
But on your Next Match you will Fall.




Life In The Fast Lane.

[30stone]

You're turning me into a villain when I'm not. Did you not see how the Henry debacle was met with here? And yes, I will tar you all with the same brush when you're incapable of seeing logic when it concerns your teams performance. I wasn't talking vitriolic sh$te there - my judgements were vindicated by the BBC crew and yet you still condemn me. F£cking mental. Seriously.

I loved posting pictures of henry and everything.
Thats not because of hate of ireland, the fans just annoyed me saying ireland would demand a rematch.. no irish player would do that..

When realistically, going to the world cup would make ireland 192m. and a player with a split second if they thought they could get away with it would. and no one could grasp that.

As for tarring us all.. i never say england are going to do fantastic.. nor do a lot of people.

[Mark]

http://i.imgur.com/4sF2t.png

[Shasown]

Did last night's little hiccup make you wish John Terry had been caught out shagging Greens wife/girlfriend?

[Locke.]

Nope because he pulled off an amazing save in the second half and made up for his mistake.

[Shasown]

Nope because he pulled off an amazing save in the second half and made up for his mistake.

In the second half he done his job properly. Funny old thing that is what he gets paid for and why he is in the England Squad.

[James]

http://www.nypost.com/rw/nypost/2010/06/13/covers/front061310.jpg

:conf:

[Jase]

http://www.nypost.com/rw/nypost/2010/06/13/covers/front061310.jpg

:conf:

LMAOOOO i heard about this on james cordens world cup live, soooo funny!

[30stone]

LMAOOOO i heard about this on james cordens world cup live, soooo funny!

Yeah same LOL.
Dont believe that headline.


Also..

Its funny green made 1 mistake..


Yet we missed 3 open goals so our strikers are as much to blame.

[ElProximo]

Americans don't care.
The vast majority of Americans don't know what the World Cup is or that it is happening now or that there is a US Team.
Nobody cares.
The only way they would care would be if the USA actually won the World Cup and even then just watching it in the same way they think its funny Lance Armstrong kept winning some Euro sport they don't watch either.

I would be amazed if you could land in New York or Las Angeles tomorrow and randomly ask 100 people on the street if to name a US player and someone actually could.

I just think its funny because England watches this 1-1 game like its the most important thing on earth or like there is a big international rivalry,
yet,
no Americans care, watch it or even heard about it. Those American fans you see in the stands?
That is ALL the fans and 80% of them are expats from the UK or some other soccer-mad countries.
The rest are friends or spouses along for the ride.

[ElProximo]

I'm really excited about the upcoming England Algeria game where eventually a goal will be scored in extra-time for a triumphant 1-0 VICTORYYYYYY for ENgland yaaaaaaaaa!
Ugh.

[Claymores]

Least he wont be around for England Algeria :dance:

I'm kinda glad I'll be oot on the razzle again on Friday night wearing my Algeria top - can't be misconstrued when winding my Engerlish chums on TIBB :joker:

[Claymores]

Did last night's little hiccup make you wish John Terry had been caught out shagging Greens wife/girlfriend?

hahahaha - classic post Terry!

[Ninastar]

Pixie lott. I can imagine andy is trying to have a quick wank over her

[red]

Found this on youtube just now ...funny :)
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