Dave is a ****ing idiot

[_Seth]

He doesn't support gay marriage... what kind of ****** doesn't? :confused:

[carpetman0569]

He doesn't support gay marriage... what kind of ****** doesn't? :confused:

Adam and eve not Adam and Steve!

[ross-oaft]

For sheer entertainment value, get Dave out! He's boring and contributing nothing.

[Stacey.]

so wish he was up for eviction. i can't stand him.

[_Seth]

nvm, wrong thread XD

[Fetch The Bolt Cutters]

Adam and eve not Adam and Steve!

have you been watching but im a cheerleader?

[*mazedsalv**]

Tbh a bigger majoirty of people that do agree.
its hard for some to come to truths with it but the majoirty of people, especially men will say that gay marriage is wrong.

But him saying it on National TV INFRONT of a gay person and a lesbian wasnt exactly a smart move

[Joelle.]

You could tell how uncomfortable he was talking about it and he realised they needed to leave it at that before he dug himself any deeper.

[30stone]

Adam and eve not Adam and Steve!

LOL!



Anyway op.. loads and loads of people are against gay marrige..

[kisywisy]

i'm all for gay marriage, but he can't really publically state that he agrees with it, can he?? he's a minister and it goes agains what he teaches!!

[ElProximo]

He doesn't support gay marriage... what kind of ****** doesn't? :confused:

I don't know what retarded people think but depending on what poll or statistic and what country - most people don't.

[Ramsay]

its obvious he does agree with gay marriage
hes great friends with mario
and he said he has no problem with gay people
but he cant say he supports gay marriage as it goes against his religion

[_Seth]

i'm all for gay marriage, but he can't really publically state that he agrees with it, can he?? he's a minister and it goes agains what he teaches!!
What kind of ****ed up God would create homosexuality but then hate upon it?
I don't know what retarded people think but depending on what poll or statistic and what country - most people don't.
Most people are idiots then.
its obvious he does agree with gay marriage
hes great friends with mario
and he said he has no problem with gay people
but he cant say he supports gay marriage as it goes against his religion

He doesn't support gay marriage - that's what makes me hate him. If I and another dude wanted to get married and he had to choose whether or not we would, he'd deny us marriage.

[iRyan]

How can he say he can't support gay marriage because it goes against his religion when in the bible it says nothing about gay marriage....it's the people that misinterpert what the bible says.

[pixee]

How can he say he can't support gay marriage because it goes against his religion when in the bible it says nothing about gay marriage....it's the people that misinterpert what the bible says.

I agree with this.

If i believed in the bible i wouldn't support it either.

Sadly in this country we have laws tied up with marriage that prevent rights for gay people though unless they're married so it is essential if you want them i guess you have to go begging to people like dave.

[iRyan]

I don't think religion should be brought into law. By denying gays the right to marry, it's bringing religion into the whole situation which isn't right IMO.

[Ramsay]

He doesn't support gay marriage - that's what makes me hate him. If I and another dude wanted to get married and he had to choose whether or not we would, he'd deny us marriage.

thats cus it would go against what his religion is about and could get in trouble
he gets along with gay guys so why wouldnt he secretly support gay marriage?

[iRyan]

thats cus it would go against what his religion is about and could get in trouble
he gets along with gay guys so why wouldnt he secretly support gay marriage?

There are loads of Christians that support gay marriage though.

[_Seth]

thats cus it would go against what his religion is about and could get in trouble
he gets along with gay guys so why wouldnt he secretly support gay marriage?

I'm half a Christian, and bi. There's no reason for gays to be denied marriage.

[Chuckyegg]

I don't know what retarded people think but depending on what poll or statistic and what country - most people don't.

The word RETARDED is just not in my vocabulary. it means absolutely nothing apart from an insult to someone if you want to let them know that you think they have mental health problems. Charming!

Dave is a patronising idiot who feels sorry for gay people and is so backwards in his thinking that he believes that we are still in the middle ages.

[MojoNixon]

He doesn't support gay marriage... what kind of ****** doesn't? :confused:

He is entitled to his option. I don't support it either.

[MojoNixon]

I'm half a Christian, and bi. There's no reason for gays to be denied marriage.

You are not christian then. By the way, i am atheist and i still accept gay marriages.

[Helmet Handpump]

How can he say he can't support gay marriage because it goes against his religion when in the bible it says nothing about gay marriage....it's the people that misinterpert what the bible says.

It might not mention anything about gay marriage but it does mention about acts of homosexuality a few times. I think it is safe to pressume that it is against gay marriage also!

Personally i think the Bible is all nonsense and have no issue with people being gay, but from Dave's point of view this book is his religious ideology so therefore will take it for gospal.

'Do not lie with a man as one lies with a woman; that is detestable.'
(Leviticus 18:22)
http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=lev%2018:22;&version=31;

'If a man lies with a man as one lies with a woman, both of them have
done what is detestable. They must be put to death; their blood will
be on their own heads.' (Leviticus 20:13)
http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Leviticus%2020:13;&version=31;

Because of this, God gave them over to shameful lusts. Even their
women exchanged natural relations for unnatural ones. In the same way
the men also abandoned natural relations with women and were inflamed
with lust for one another. Men committed indecent acts with other men,
and received in themselves the due penalty for their perversion.
(Romans 1:26-27)
http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Romans%201:26-27;&version=31;

Before they had gone to bed, all the men from every part of the city
of Sodom-both young and old-surrounded the house. They called to Lot,
"Where are the men who came to you tonight? Bring them out to us so
that we can have sex with them." (Genesis 19:4-5)
http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Genesis%2019:4-5;&version=31;

Do you not know that the wicked will not inherit the kingdom of God?
Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor
adulterers nor male prostitutes nor homosexual offenders nor thieves
nor the greedy nor drunkards nor slanderers nor swindlers will inherit
the kingdom of God. (1 Corinthians 6:9-10)
http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=1%20Corinthians%206:9-10;&version=31;

knowing this: that the law is not made for a righteous person, but for
the lawless and insubordinate, for the ungodly and for sinners, for
the unholy and profane, for murderers of fathers and murderers of
mothers, for manslayers, for fornicators, for sodomites, for
kidnappers, for liars, for perjurers, and if there is any other thing
that is contrary to sound doctrine, (1 Timothy 1:9-10)
http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=1%20Timothy%201:9-10%20;&version=50;

[BigBrotherfan4ever]

Tbh a bigger majoirty of people that do agree.
its hard for some to come to truths with it but the majoirty of people, especially men will say that gay marriage is wrong.

But him saying it on National TV INFRONT of a gay person and a lesbian wasnt exactly a smart move

Totally agree with you salv on this.

[daniel-lewis-1985]

The bible is such horse s h i t lol

[Angus]

so wish he was up for eviction. i can't stand him.

Well he was, and two much younger and fitter contestants couldn't beat him in the task, so fair do's.

[Angus]

The bible is such horse s h i t lol

But it's Dave's horse**** and he is entitled to follow his religious beliefs. If gay people want to get married in church there are plenty of denominations that will accommodate them, or they can go the secular route and get hitched in a registry office if they're not particularly religious.

[brian3]

I view this issue in the same way I view gay people who fight for the right to join the army.

Why?

A civil partnership is better for both strate and gay people. A church mariage is an outdated concept.

[Fish_Fingers]

He doesn't support gay marriage... what kind of ****** doesn't? :confused:

Lots of people. Take a read of this, it'll really help you out.

http://www.criticalreading.com/critical_thinking.htm

This is the best part:

Non-critical thinkers take an egotistical view of the world
They take their facts as the only relevant ones.
They take their own perspective as the only sensible one.
They take their goal as the only valid one.

[MojoNixon]

I view this issue in the same way I view gay people who fight for the right to join the army.

Why?

A civil partnership is better for both strate and gay people. A church mariage is an outdated concept.

Gays cannot eliminate enemy, they wanna shag with em.

[Robertocarlo]

Interesting how so many bigoted, homophobic, "Christians" rant on and on about how wicked Gays are and quote Leviticus YET that same Levitical Code goes on about only wearing clothes made from a single piece of cloth, not eating pork, shell fish and many other things. Why then do these same homophobes think it's quite OK to ignore the rest of the Levitical Code yet pick out the Gay bit??

It's obvious to me and many, homophobia pure and simple.

Dave, for all his hip alternative rantings, is just like the rest of them which is why I am a Pagan and NOT Christian!

[MojoNixon]

I can see more "Chrstianphobics" here than "homophobics".

[monx]

God is love!

[Fatigue]

The Bible says a lot of contradictory things. As a Christian I still see the Bible as open to interpretation, whether it be negative or positive. My two cents.

[charmingmissc]

Interesting how so many bigoted, homophobic, "Christians" rant on and on about how wicked Gays are and quote Leviticus YET that same Levitical Code goes on about only wearing clothes made from a single piece of cloth, not eating pork, shell fish and many other things. Why then do these same homophobes think it's quite OK to ignore the rest of the Levitical Code yet pick out the Gay bit??

It's obvious to me and many, homophobia pure and simple.

Dave, for all his hip alternative rantings, is just like the rest of them which is why I am a Pagan and NOT Christian!

i agree with you, and i am also a Pagan.
alot of people cherry pick from the bible and ignore the rest if it does'nt agree with what they beleive.

[Peter Plunker]

But it's Dave's horse**** and he is entitled to follow his religious beliefs. If gay people want to get married in church there are plenty of denominations that will accommodate them, or they can go the secular route and get hitched in a registry office if they're not particularly religious.

No they can't. Gay marriage is not legally recognised. Civil partnership is a totally different thing to marriage.

[Peter Plunker]

I can see more "Chrstianphobics" here than "homophobics".


One may argue that a Christian has a choice whereas a homosexual may not. I don't necessarily (sp) agree with that as life is not black and white. Many people enter a homosexual lifestyle through choice, many do not.

I'm a Christian. I find the whole issue to depend on your definition of marriage. Marriage to me is a religious ceremony where the man and woman agree to cherish eachother in the sight of God and ask God to bless their marriage. Accordingly, a Christian marriage is not something the Church would offer a same sex couple.

I believe there should also be a proper civil partnership scheme.

If the same sex couple want a christian wedding then I think they've chosen the wrong faith.

If you believe the church should be offering same sex marriages then that's up to you. I'll guarantee that most of the people saying the church shoul offer gay marriages are not commited christians or only attend churches for births, deaths and marriages.