Nathan and G*van.

[Chels]

I think that moment with the lighter between them two has probably ruined Nathan completley before he's even had a chance. A lot of people will hate on one HM because he/she gets along with the 'most hated.' It's unfair how he's been labelled as a twat just because he likes him (even though I can't understand why he does myself tbh.) He's a good guy, just maybe not a good judge of character.

[Fetch The Bolt Cutters]

nathan who?.... oh right yeah

[Jords]

He wont be going anywhere anytime soon, hope we see more Nathan from launch night...

[Visage]

I'm sure he will be strong enough to get through it.

[arsenalforever]

I think that moment with the lighter between them two has probably ruined Nathan completley before he's even had a chance. A lot of people will hate on one HM because he/she gets along with the 'most hated.' It's unfair how he's been labelled as a twat just because he likes him (even though I can't understand why he does myself tbh.) He's a good guy, just maybe not a good judge of character.

its not that Chels we haven't seen anythign of him thats screaming great hm as of yet. i think hanging with Govan won't help him. lets see what happen

[arsenalforever]

He wont be going anywhere anytime soon, hope we see more Nathan from launch night...

thats cause no one has any reason to nom him lol
he cooks for them(which is a safe way of not getting nom0

[Chels]

its not that Chels we haven't seen anythign of him thats screaming great hm as of yet. i think hanging with Govan won't help him. lets see what happen

Ik but suddenly ever since the lighter game I've noticed he's been pushed down into people's 'dislike' catergories. And yeah I know the G*van thing won't help and that's exactly why people dislike him suddenly is because he gets on with him. I'm dissapointed in him too though but I'm not going to start hating on him.

[Patrick]

I thought this was the Nathan and Chels thread only you took your name out for a laugh LOL

Tbh Rachael could be the making of Nathan, if she stays on Friday then they can get together and be our last ever BB Romance :love:

[Jordan.]

It'll only be a matter of time before Govan starts bitching about him :rolleyes:

[Joelle.]

Of all people, Nathan should know better than to get involved with that twat!

[Chels]

It'll only be a matter of time before Govan starts bitching about him :rolleyes:

I hope so! It will give me more ammo :laugh:

[arsenalforever]

Ik but suddenly ever since the lighter game I've noticed he's been pushed down into people's 'dislike' catergories. And yeah I know the G*van thing won't help and that's exactly why people dislike him suddenly is because he gets on with him. I'm dissapointed in him too though but I'm not going to start hating on him.

well just support him he might get back up in the list soon enough though
i like to see more from him he was someone i taught would ahve been my fav

[vesavius]

I think that moment with the lighter between them two has probably ruined Nathan completley before he's even had a chance. A lot of people will hate on one HM because he/she gets along with the 'most hated.' It's unfair how he's been labelled as a twat just because he likes him (even though I can't understand why he does myself tbh.) He's a good guy, just maybe not a good judge of character.

I like Nathan.. I see him as one of the best guys in there tbh.

I wouldnt worry about that moment too much, it's a flash, nothing more. people will forget it in one or two days. Tbh, i already had.

Nathan is on the back burner right now, naturally making friends with all just because he is a decent guy. His story will come :)

[arsenalforever]

I like Nathan.. I see him as one of the best guys in there tbh.

I wouldnt worry about that moment too much, it's a flash, nothing more. people will forget it in one or two days. Tbh, i already had.

Nathan is on the back burner right now, naturally making friends with all just because he is a decent guy. His story will come :)

give me a shot of vodka cuase you drive me mad:joker:

[MassiveTruck]

Nathan is rubbish. I just think of a randomly lost Gallagher brother because Mam Gallagher had an illicit encounter in Bingley.

[Jords]

I hope so! It will give me more ammo :laugh:

Ive got the gun ready, tell me when! :laugh:

[Chels]

I thought this was the Nathan and Chels thread only you took your name out for a laugh LOL

Tbh Rachael could be the making of Nathan, if she stays on Friday then they can get together and be our last ever BB Romance :love:

LOL nah that thread's been re-named The Ass Thread now :laugh:

Hm, I don't want him getting involved in a romance because Rachael could easily ruin him at the same time. I don't think he'd get involved with her like that anyway.

[Chels]

Of all people, Nathan should know better than to get involved with that twat!

Ye, but tbh he seems a really nice guy but just an awful judge of character. Or he's just trying to make some friends early on.

[Chels]

well just support him he might get back up in the list soon enough though
i like to see more from him he was someone i taught would ahve been my fav

He's still my fave no doubt about that :) I'm just a bit dissapointed he's leaning towards Team Twat more. He needs to stay an individual if he has any chance IMO.

[Chels]

I like Nathan.. I see him as one of the best guys in there tbh.

I wouldnt worry about that moment too much, it's a flash, nothing more. people will forget it in one or two days. Tbh, i already had.

Nathan is on the back burner right now, naturally making friends with all just because he is a decent guy. His story will come :)

Yeah you're probably right :) maybe I'm reading into this too much.

[Chels]

Ive got the gun ready, tell me when! :laugh:

We're oscar mike, move out! You take him out from behind while I decoy! :laugh:

[Jords]

We're oscar mike, move out! You take him out from behind while I decoy! :laugh:

I dont do anything from behind. :shocked:

[Chels]

I dont do anything from behind. :shocked:

I meant shoot him dead with that gun you got, not doing him up the ass you filthy sod :laugh:

[Jords]

I meant shoot him dead with that gun you got, not doing him up the ass you filthy sod :laugh:

:joker:

In that case *gets out gun* :devil:

[LiquidGold]

I think that moment with the lighter between them two has probably ruined Nathan completley before he's even had a chance. A lot of people will hate on one HM because he/she gets along with the 'most hated.' It's unfair how he's been labelled as a twat just because he likes him (even though I can't understand why he does myself tbh.) He's a good guy, just maybe not a good judge of character.

nahh people will still like nathan but i never see him with govan so i didnt get that either

[Stacey.]

i'm not too bothered about Nathan myself, but i agree when you say that housemates are getting judged for being friends with others.

i heard some idiot saying 'let's evict Rachael because we dislike Govan'.

no. evict people you want out! not people are friends with the one you dislike!

[Novo]

Such a boring and Pointless housemate.. all he does is cook for everyone i've never seen him do anything else really.

He is defiantly a part of the twat group... he licks Gollum's arse.... and his reason's for nominating ben were pathetic

[Angus]

I think that moment with the lighter between them two has probably ruined Nathan completley before he's even had a chance. A lot of people will hate on one HM because he/she gets along with the 'most hated.' It's unfair how he's been labelled as a twat just because he likes him (even though I can't understand why he does myself tbh.) He's a good guy, just maybe not a good judge of character.



It doesn't help Nathan that he dislikes Ben for the wrong reasons.

[Niamh.]

I don't think it will make any difference to his popularity Chels, not unless he decides to join in on the b*tching himself

[arsenalforever]

I don't think it will make any difference to his popularity Chels, not unless he decides to join in on the b*tching himself

plus he's done nothing but cook god bless him
he reminds me of gos from BB4

[Chels]

It doesn't help Nathan that he dislikes Ben for the wrong reasons.

Because Ben never really seems to make an effort with him? I've seen Nat plenty of times on LF trying to have a conversation with him, he even slings his arm around him, but Ben just seems so disinterested so I can't really blame him. They're my two favourites as well and I hate it that they don't really get on.

[Zippy]

Nathans not seen as part of Govans clique so I doubt anybody will tarnish him with the same brush. Nathans biggest problem is getting airtime. He's been invisible so far. But he isnt hated so I can't see him getting evicted even if he went up. But he's popular in the house too.

He's a long termer I think.

[arsenalforever]

Because Ben never really seems to make an effort with him? I've seen Nat plenty of times on LF trying to have a conversation with him, he even slings his arm around him, but Ben just seems so disinterested so I can't really blame him. They're my two favourites as well and I hate it that they don't really get on.

not what i see i think both of them ahve nothing in common

[Chels]

I don't think it will make any difference to his popularity Chels, not unless he decides to join in on the b*tching himself

I don't think he's bitchy though, he seems the type of lad who'd say it to them.

[Niamh.]

plus he's done nothing but cook god bless him
he reminds me of gos from BB4

aw I like Nathan, he's in my top 3, I've made my decision now John James, Josie and Nathan

[Chels]

not what i see i think both of them ahve nothing in common

Yes that was one of Nathan's reasons for nominating him, and if I am honest Ben doesn't even seem to want to talk to him.

[Niamh.]

I don't think he's bitchy though, he seems the type of lad who'd say it to them.

No he isn't coming across bitchy at all which is why I don't think him getting on with an unpopular HM will make any difference to his popularity

[Niamh.]

Yes that was one of Nathan's reasons for nominating him, and if I am honest Ben doesn't even seem to want to talk to him.

yeah I'm a bit undecided on Ben tbh, I think he may be a bit needy and maybe a bit of a stirrer too

[BigBrotherfan4ever]

I think that moment with the lighter between them two has probably ruined Nathan completley before he's even had a chance. A lot of people will hate on one HM because he/she gets along with the 'most hated.' It's unfair how he's been labelled as a twat just because he likes him (even though I can't understand why he does myself tbh.) He's a good guy, just maybe not a good judge of character.

Like you Chels when i saw that on HL Show last night i was like oh no Nathan dont say things like that, but to be honest, i dont think Nathan in any danger of going anywhere soon, im pretty sure as soon as Govan is nominated he will go.

[DrunkerThanMoses]

Sadely Nathan will stay for a while :(

I find him the most boring there, along with Ife and Steve, and his language is filthy, I cant stand people who swear all the time.

I think he will stay, but he wont get great support.

He will probs survive evictions, not sure if it was to vote to save, might be in trouble.

[Chels]

Like you Chels when i saw that on HL Show last night i was like oh no Nathan dont say things like that, but to be honest, i dont think Nathan in any danger of going anywhere soon, im pretty sure as soon as Govan is nominated he will go.

True, but the problem is getting Govan nominated He seems to be liked by people in there too much. And I think he needs to go ASAP or Nathan's at risk if he keeps bothering with him :(

[arsenalforever]

Yes that was one of Nathan's reasons for nominating him, and if I am honest Ben doesn't even seem to want to talk to him.

none of the Hm's wil egt along chels lol
i think Nathan is too laddy for him
i can't see Nathan and him sitting down talking about history or movies

[Novo]

Would be funny if Ben headbutted him out of nowhere.

Can't see it happening but you never know...

[arsenalforever]

Like you Chels when i saw that on HL Show last night i was like oh no Nathan dont say things like that, but to be honest, i dont think Nathan in any danger of going anywhere soon, im pretty sure as soon as Govan is nominated he will go.

i think natahn will slip under the rader unless he loses some of his close friends i think they would pick him off

[arsenalforever]

yeah I'm a bit undecided on Ben tbh, I think he may be a bit needy and maybe a bit of a stirrer too

maybe he wanst to be liked to quick
i dont' think he is a stirrer

[lime]

I think that moment with the lighter between them two has probably ruined Nathan completley before he's even had a chance. A lot of people will hate on one HM because he/she gets along with the 'most hated.' It's unfair how he's been labelled as a twat just because he likes him (even though I can't understand why he does myself tbh.) He's a good guy, just maybe not a good judge of character.

I don't think it's ruined Nathan completely.Bad judge of character at the moment ,yeah.
It's only one week in .I'm sure Nathan will see through him soon.
Nathan doesn't have the benefit we have of hearing alot of Govans bitching.
It wasn't the lighter thing that worried me yesterday about Nathan,it was when Dave and Govan had their argument and Dave told Govan he was trying to mediate Nathan got himself involved by telling Dave it didn't need mediating.Liking Govan is one thing,but siding with him in arguments that don't involve you is looking for trouble

[Niamh.]

maybe he wanst to be liked to quick
i dont' think he is a stirrer

The juries out on him still for me

[arsenalforever]

The juries out on him still for me

i like him cause he seems the nicest and most interesting hm for me

[Niamh.]

I don't think it's ruined Nathan completely.Bad judge of character at the moment ,yeah.
It's only one week in .I'm sure Nathan will see through him soon.
Nathan doesn't have the benefit we have of hearing alot of Govans bitching.
It wasn't the lighter thing that worried me yesterday about Nathan,it was when Dave and Govan had their argument and Dave told Govan he was trying to mediate Nathan got himself involved by telling Dave it didn't need mediating.Liking Govan is one thing,but siding with him in arguments that don't involve you is looking for trouble

yeah absolutely, no one will hate him for being Guvans friend but like you said if he starts bitching and getting involved in his stupid squabbles then he'll be in trouble

[Chels]

none of the Hm's wil egt along chels lol
i think Nathan is too laddy for him
i can't see Nathan and him sitting down talking about history or movies

Nathan was actually talking about films the other day, think it was with Steve. When the numbers dwindle and if Ben and Nat are still in there together then they're gonna have to talk at some point.

[monx]

He isnt the sharpest tool in the box so I suppose he doesnt know associating with the bitch Govan can be damaging, however I have never been a big believer in guilt by association!

[Chels]

I don't think it's ruined Nathan completely.Bad judge of character at the moment ,yeah.
It's only one week in .I'm sure Nathan will see through him soon.
Nathan doesn't have the benefit we have of hearing alot of Govans bitching.
It wasn't the lighter thing that worried me yesterday about Nathan,it was when Dave and Govan had their argument and Dave told Govan he was trying to mediate Nathan got himself involved by telling Dave it didn't need mediating.Liking Govan is one thing,but siding with him in arguments that don't involve you is looking for trouble

Good points there actually, but about the whole Oniongate thing he wasn't on anyone's side, Dave shouldn't have dragged him into it tbh.

[arsenalforever]

yeah absolutely, no one will hate him for being Guvans friend but like you said if he starts bitching and getting involved in his stupid squabbles then he'll be in trouble

plus if he doesn't get H/l time he wil get voted out for doing nothing

[Niamh.]

plus if he doesn't get H/l time he wil get voted out for doing nothing

I have faith in him still though once the numbers dwindle I reckon he'll stand out a bit more

[DrunkerThanMoses]

Good news chels, bad news people who dont really like him.

His odds on winnign are 7/1 according to digtal spy, same as mario and corin.

SO he seems llike a favourite? Dont ask how?

[lime]

Good points there actually, but about the whole Oniongate thing he wasn't on anyone's side, Dave shouldn't have dragged him into it tbh.

I liked Nathan's response when he noticed onions were missing,he laughed it off.But even if Dave brought him into the argument he probably should have just told them both to sort it out between themselves and leave him out of it
It's early days, I still think Nathan will see through him.

[Chels]

Good news chels, bad news people who dont really like him.

His odds on winnign are 7/1 according to digtal spy, same as mario and corin.

SO he seems llike a favourite? Dont ask how?

I think it's because people are putting money on him now because they think his personality will be stronger later on in the series. As Niamh said, he'll probably shine when the numbers dwindle.

[Chels]

I liked Nathan's response when he noticed onions were missing,he laughed it off.But even if Dave brought him into the argument he probably should have just told them both to sort it out between themselves and leave him out of it
It's early days, I still think Nathan will see through him.

He's really laid back and that's what I like about him. And tbh I don't think he said anything in that argument apart from that the situation didn't need mediating, which was true as he clearly wasn't bothered that the onions went. He wasn't on anyone's side either :)

[Novo]

Rachel Rice 25/1
Sophie Reade 20/1

Last 2 winners were big prices at this stage..

Realistically Nathan hasn't got a chance of winning.

[fruit_cake]

i think nathan will explode at some point, he's very awkward and uncomfortable at the moment playing mr nicey chops

[Chels]

Rachel Rice 25/1
Sophie Reade 20/1

Last 2 winners were big prices at this stage..

Realistically Nathan hasn't got a chance of winning.

Pete was something like 5/1 at this stage. But to be completley honest, he's got a better chance than Ben (who I like as well.)

[Chels]

i think nathan will explode at some point, he's very awkward and uncomfortable at the moment playing mr nicey chops
He's not playing anything, he's one of the most genuine.

[Novo]

Pete was something like 5/1 at this stage. But to be completley honest, he's got a better chance than Ben (who I like as well.)

Ben has Winner written all over him

And he is building up massive support just look at the Polls

[arsenalforever]

Pete was something like 5/1 at this stage. But to be completley honest, he's got a better chance than Ben (who I like as well.)

nah its only a wek so far
he's so high up cause he's yet to do anyhting bad
nathan will not win unless he gets a bit of H/l time and a proper storyline

[arsenalforever]

Ben has Winner written all over him

And he is building up massive support just look at the Polls

if team bitch become nasty to him thats if shabby stays i think you could see him getting a lot of support

[fruit_cake]

He's not playing anything, he's one of the most genuine.

how do you know? we haven't seen anything yet to be sure of anybody at all.

i think he'd be happier shovelling sand and loading up wheel barrows on a building site than stuck in a social environment like the bb house.. i reckon that'll come out at some point..

[Chels]

Maybe by the forum but probably not by the public. They never like the posh ones.

[arsenalforever]

how do you know? we haven't seen anything yet to be sure of anybody at all.

this

chels i would give it time to say if he's a good guy or not

he seems fine so far

[arsenalforever]

Maybe by the forum but probably not by the public. They never like the posh ones.

freddie was loved and his only downfall was Bea
if she wasn't in he would have won

[Chels]

how do you know? we haven't seen anything yet to be sure of anybody at all.

Because it's clearly obvious. You know when someone's a fake, it's written all over them.

[Chels]

freddie was loved and his only downfall was Bea
if she wasn't in he would have won

I very much doubt it. He could have come 3rd or something, but he was far too cocky to win.

[fruit_cake]

Because it's clearly obvious. You know when someone's a fake, it's written all over them.

the naivety of youth, gotta love it..

at this point last year, most people felt like Kris was a genuine type of chap... and just a few weeks later he was brublic enemy number 1

[arsenalforever]

Because it's clearly obvious. You know when someone's a fake, it's written all over them.

oh come chels we don't know jack **** about any hm in there
ben might be a nasty guy underneath
corin might turn into a prower crazy hm
Nathan might turn out to be worse then govan

all this might hapen in a months time cause some of them are smart not to show their true colours yet

[arsenalforever]

I very much doubt it. He could have come 3rd or something, but he was far too cocky to win.

oh stop chels:joker:

[arsenalforever]

the naivety of youth, gotta love it..

at this point last year, most people felt like Kris was a genuine type of chap... and just a few weeks later he was brublic enemy number 1

this

[Novo]

Freddie would have walked it if he got to the final, same with Marcus

[arsenalforever]

anyone with knowledge of B would have seen freddie winning if it wasn't for Bea

i don;t think the posh thing will matter

[Chels]

the naivety of youth, gotta love it..

at this point last year, most people felt like Kris was a genuine type of chap... and just a few weeks later he was brublic enemy number 1

Don't ****ing call me naive, I know what I'm talking about. I've always been good at telling the genuine apart from the fake, Kris was one who I said was holding back at the time.

[BigBrotherfan4ever]

I very much doubt it. He could have come 3rd or something, but he was far too cocky to win.

Totally agree Chels, i did liked Freddie to begin with, but the more he survived evictions, the more cocky he got.

[arsenalforever]

Don't ****ing call me naive, I know what I'm talking about. I've always been good at telling the genuine apart from the fake, Kris was one who I said was holding back at the time.

we will wait and see young chels

[Chels]

Freddie would have walked it if he got to the final, same with Marcus
I think Marcus would have won if he made it, Freddie no.

[Novo]

Young Chels needs to stop being so silly and support a decent housemate for a change :)

[arsenalforever]

I think Marcus would have won if he made it, Freddie no.

you didn't say that earlier this week
chels i think your youth is carrying you away

[arsenalforever]

Young Chels needs to stop being so silly and support a decent housemate for a change :)

she will change her mind as much as govan bitches:joker:

[fruit_cake]

Don't ****ing call me naive, I know what I'm talking about. I've always been good at telling the genuine apart from the fake, Kris was one who I said was holding back at the time.

wow! accept my apologise for calling you naive, i didn't mean any harm.. I don't care much for the swearing though.

[vesavius]

wow! accept my apologise for calling you naive, i didn't mean any harm.. I don't care much for the swearing though.

The don't dismiss others PoV with demeaning personal labels in place of quality debate?

It's happened way too much in this thread, by people who are probably old enough to know better. It's a pretty pathetic way to behave tbh and is not much short of just trolling for the sake of it.

Attack the point being made and not the person and maybe they won't swear.

[vesavius]

Totally agree Chels, i did liked Freddie to begin with, but the more he survived evictions, the more cocky he got.

This is the Freddy I remember as well.

I supported Freddy for the longest time, but close to his end he was commiting BB suicide by his open arrogance and cocky behaviour.

[Jay Frost]

yeah Govan has slagged everybody off so far and im sure he will start bitching nathan off, that guy will be up next week along with shabby and racheal..
sunshine to go this week

[fruit_cake]

The don't dismiss others PoV with demeaning personal labels in place of quality debate?

It's happened way too much in this thread, by people who are probably old enough to know better. It's a pretty pathetic way to behave tbh and is not much short of just trolling for the sake of it.

Attack the point being made and not the person and maybe they won't swear.

not too great at practicing what you preach are you! do what i say not what i do!

i'm refering to the 'people' you are acusing of trolling and being 'old enough to know better'.. i'd say that was 'dismissing others with demeaning personal labels' what d'ya reckon?

i assume im one of these 'people', who are the others? perhaps you'd like to tell them to their 'face' if you have a problem with them?

c'mon, what are their 'names'? lets see you practice what you preach and stop labelling them and use your supposed 'quality debate' to shut them up

[arsenalforever]

This is the Freddy I remember as well.

I supported Freddy for the longest time, but close to his end he was commiting BB suicide by his open arrogance and cocky behaviour.

well once Bea came in he did turn into a monster

[arsenalforever]

The don't dismiss others PoV with demeaning personal labels in place of quality debate?

It's happened way too much in this thread, by people who are probably old enough to know better. It's a pretty pathetic way to behave tbh and is not much short of just trolling for the sake of it.

Attack the point being made and not the person and maybe they won't swear.

you got to practice what you preach lol

[fruit_cake]

well bloody hell if an apology is not enough you have to assume someone has it in for you! unless im mistaken somewhere

[vesavius]

not too great at practicing what you preach are you! do what i say not what i do!

i'm refering to the 'people' you are acusing of trolling and being 'old enough to know better'.. i'd say that was 'dismissing others with demeaning personal labels' what d'ya reckon?

i assume im one of these 'people', who are the others? perhaps you'd like to tell them to their 'face' if you have a problem with them?

c'mon, what are their 'names'? lets see you practice what you preach and stop labelling them and use your supposed 'quality debate' to shut them up

Listen, after the 'apology' you mentioned that you didnt appreciate the swearing. All I did (to you specifically) was suggest a way that maybe you could look at your own behaviour in order to stop people wanting to swear at you.

If you see yourself amongst the rest of what I say, then maybe thats your issue.

Honestly, take what you want from it, it's all the same to me, but I won't be trolled by amateurs like you.

You can have the (inevitable) last word here, I couldnt care.

[vesavius]

you got to practice what you preach lol

I honestly thought you was better then this from what I read last year Arsenal.

Funny how a year can change the way people post.